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Öjevind Lång

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Dec 1, 2009, 9:19:54 AM12/1/09
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On 1 Dec, 15:00, Nautilus <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Well, then, with many thanks to Clams Canino, here's the new thread.
> The object of our quest is from the kingdom of plants.

1. Is it mentioned in LotR?

Öjevind

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Clams Canino

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"Nautilus" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> In article
> <92162362-53fc-492b...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> Yes.

2. Is it a "singular plant"? (like the Party tree for ex)


Clams Canino

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"Nautilus" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> In article
> <92162362-53fc-492b...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> �jevind L�ng <ojevin...@bredband.net> wrote:
>

> Yes.

2. Is it a "singular plant"? (like the Party tree for ex)

I'm trying to eliminate a "species name" or a"particular grove"


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Raven

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> The object of our quest is from the kingdom of plants.
> 1. Is it mentioned in LotR?
> Yes.
> 2. Is it a "singular plant"? (like the Party tree for ex)
> I'm trying to eliminate a "species name" or a"particular grove"

> Yes, our object is a singular plant.

3. Was it sown by someone?

Cr�.

Clams Canino

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"Nautilus" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> In article <aaadnTua77KZ0ojW...@earthlink.com>,

> "Clams Canino" <cc-m...@earthdink.net> wrote:
>
> > Sorry if this douple posts - news server is horked today.
> >
> > "Nautilus" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:me1-E53B2F.1...@news.t-online.de...
> > > In article
> > > <92162362-53fc-492b...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > > �jevind L�ng <ojevin...@bredband.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 1 Dec, 15:00, Nautilus <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > > Well, then, with many thanks to Clams Canino, here's the new
thread.
> > > > > The object of our quest is from the kingdom of plants.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Is it mentioned in LotR?
> > > Yes.
> >
> > 2. Is it a "singular plant"?

> Yes, our object is a singular plant.

Is it the Mallorn tree that Samwise planted - to replace the Party tree ?

-W


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Tamf Moo

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Dec 2, 2009, 6:14:44 AM12/2/09
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On 02/12/09 04:27, Nautilus wrote:

>>>>>>> The object of our quest is from the kingdom of plants.
>>>>>> 1. Is it mentioned in LotR?
>>>>> Yes.
>>>> 2. Is it a "singular plant"?
>>> Yes, our object is a singular plant.
>> Is it the Mallorn tree that Samwise planted - to replace the Party tree ?

> No.

is it a tree?

--
tamf

likes these things to be established.
established trees grow taller!

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Öjevind Lång

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Dec 2, 2009, 8:50:48 AM12/2/09
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On 2 Dec, 14:30, Nautilus <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In article <7nn0ghF3n61a...@mid.individual.net>,
> [with Raven's question inserted and numbers added where necessary}

>  Tamf Moo <liddlelel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On 02/12/09 04:27, Nautilus wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>> The object of our quest is from the kingdom of plants.
> > >>>>>> 1. Is it mentioned in LotR?
> > >>>>> Yes.
> > >>>> 2.  Is it a "singular plant"?
> > >>> Yes, our object is a singular plant.
> > >> 3. Is it the Mallorn tree that Samwise planted - to replace the Party tree ?
> > > No.
> > 4. Was it sown by someone?
>
> It's possible, but we don't learn anything specific about it.
>
> > 5. is it a tree?
>
> Yes. I will qualify my affirmative answer a bit, if I notice that you
> start to think along the wrong lines.

Is it the sapling of the White Tree that Aragorn found after the War
of the Ring?

Öjevind

Clams Canino

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"�jevind L�ng" <ojevin...@bredband.net> wrote in message
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Is it the sapling of the White Tree that Aragorn found after the War
of the Ring?

�jevind

Comment: That was my 1st thought to the "qualified tree" as well. :)

-W


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Clams Canino

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"Nautilus" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message news:me1-

> Blimey, I had thought the sapling was reasonably obscure and that at
> least the Dead White Tree would be guessed first by someone. :-(


This was a little too much info:

>>I will qualify my affirmative answer a bit, if I notice that you
> > start to think along the wrong lines.

Had you merely made that commitment to yourself, it may have been different.
It immediately made me ask myself "When is a tree, not a real tree?"

-W


Dirk Thierbach

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Dec 2, 2009, 10:37:45 AM12/2/09
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Clams Canino <cc-m...@earthdink.net> wrote:
> "Nautilus" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message news:me1-

> This was a little too much info:


>
>>>I will qualify my affirmative answer a bit, if I notice that you
>> > start to think along the wrong lines.
>
> Had you merely made that commitment to yourself, it may have been different.
> It immediately made me ask myself "When is a tree, not a real tree?"

I think there's a reason why the usual rules insist on yes-no-answers :-)

- Dirk

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Dirk Thierbach

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Dec 2, 2009, 5:21:01 PM12/2/09
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Nautilus <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> I think there's a reason why the usual rules insist on yes-no-answers :-)

> So I've screwed up?

Nah. Answering style is up to the one hosting the round. You'll just
have to live with the fact that you'll make it a lot easier if you're
more explicit.

> But there's more than one reason to qualify the yes to
> that question.

I think one way to avoid this is to declare some sort of general policy
beforehand. Like "if it's ambigous, I'll answer rather yes than no".

- Dirk

Troels Forchhammer

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Dec 3, 2009, 12:08:18 PM12/3/09
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Dirk Thierbach <dthie...@usenet.arcornews.de> spoke these staves:
>
> Nah. Answering style is up to the one hosting the round. You'll
> just have to live with the fact that you'll make it a lot easier
> if you're more explicit.

I think it is entirely legitimate to answer something along the lines
of 'I don't know', 'Tolkien never said' or 'I am not sure' --
wonderfully ambiguous in all cases (and very often entirely true).

Of course one may also go all Tolkien on us and say that 'some have
said that it is, yes' ;-)

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Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.

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absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.
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Dirk Thierbach

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Dec 3, 2009, 1:25:21 PM12/3/09
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Troels Forchhammer <Tro...@thisisfake.invalid> wrote:
> I think it is entirely legitimate to answer something along the lines
> of 'I don't know', 'Tolkien never said' or 'I am not sure' --
> wonderfully ambiguous in all cases (and very often entirely true).

Of course, "I don't know" is also valid, besides "yes" and "no". But
anything beyond that *does* give away a lot of information. And with
20 bits, one can distinguish about 1 million choices; that should be
enough to pin down a single specific *word* in LotR (if one asks the
questions carefully :-) ).

- Dirk

Glenn Holliday

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Dec 3, 2009, 9:43:29 PM12/3/09
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Troels Forchhammer wrote:
> In message
> <news:2009120222210...@dthierbach.news.arcor.de>

> I think it is entirely legitimate to answer something along the lines
> of 'I don't know', 'Tolkien never said' or 'I am not sure' --
> wonderfully ambiguous in all cases (and very often entirely true).
>
> Of course one may also go all Tolkien on us and say that 'some have
> said that it is, yes' ;-)

There's always "Ask not the elves for advice,
for they will say both yes and no."

(without looking it up to check how close I got the quote)

--
Glenn Holliday holl...@acm.org

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