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Luis Fontanills

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Dec 31, 2000, 9:37:26 AM12/31/00
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Ernie Kuo in a message dated 12/30/2000 1:07:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> <<Borrowing terms from other art forms is sometimes okay but does not always
> work. Since Jay and Luis are both architects, you will understand that
> terms used in painting do not always work in the Art of Architecture, for
> example: impressionism and expressionism. Likewise, terms used in
> architecture such as gothic style and art deco style has no true meaning in
> painting. Except perhaps when it pertains to paintings of those buildings
> in those architectural styles.>>

Actually, there is a German Expressionist movement in architecture. I did a
paper and visual presentation on it at the university. Here is one of the
architects of this movement, Erich Mendelsohn
http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Einstein_Tower.html
Expressionism, as an aesthetic term, is general enough to be used for any
artform. It can be used for bonsai, if properly defined with visual examples
of bonsai that would demonstrate its characteristics.

>
> <<Bonsai has its own terms. I doubt that terms like impressionistic and
> expressionistic borrowed from painting will work in bonsai, but of course
> we will only know for sure in time.
>
> Ernie Kuo, http://www.erniekuo.com>>
>

Ernie,
I understand your general point on this and feel the concern is valid, but
one has to try to achieve this goal of an expanded language for bonsai. I am
actually perplexed that bonsai, having such a long history, has not had its
styles/periods classified. Better late than never ;-)


Luis Fontanills
Miami, Florida USA

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Ernie Kuo

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On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:37:28 EST, Luis Fontanills <Man...@AOL.COM> wrote:

>Ernie Kuo in a message dated 12/30/2000 1:07:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>erni...@AOL.COM writes:
>
>
>> <<Borrowing terms from other art forms is sometimes okay but does not
always
>> work. Since Jay and Luis are both architects, you will understand that
>> terms used in painting do not always work in the Art of Architecture, for
>> example: impressionism and expressionism. Likewise, terms used in
>> architecture such as gothic style and art deco style has no true meaning
in
>> painting. Except perhaps when it pertains to paintings of those buildings
>> in those architectural styles.>>
>
>Actually, there is a German Expressionist movement in architecture. I did a
>paper and visual presentation on it at the university. Here is one of the
>architects of this movement, Erich Mendelsohn
> http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Einstein_Tower.html
>Expressionism, as an aesthetic term, is general enough to be used for any
>artform. It can be used for bonsai, if properly defined with visual
examples
>of bonsai that would demonstrate its characteristics.

Luis,

Thanks for the information. Is there also an impressionist movement in
architecture?

>> <<Bonsai has its own terms. I doubt that terms like impressionistic and
>> expressionistic borrowed from painting will work in bonsai, but of course
>> we will only know for sure in time.

>I understand your general point on this and feel the concern is valid, but


>one has to try to achieve this goal of an expanded language for bonsai. I
am
>actually perplexed that bonsai, having such a long history, has not had its
>styles/periods classified. Better late than never ;-)

Very frankly, expanding the language for bonsai is not one of my
priorities. I have enough problems keeping up with my trees. ;-)

Ernie Kuo, Zone 9, http://www.erniekuo.com

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