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Kate A. Pohjola

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Mar 13, 2002, 5:53:47 PM3/13/02
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today's conundrum is this:

how do those of you that are single and/or live alone moisturize your
healing tattoos on the parts of your body that you can't quite reach on
your own? if a friend is around, i make them rub some lotion in for me
(Lubriderm for sensitive skin), but i'm curious what ya'll do when
you're stuck alone.

i've reached that peely/itchy stage and it's taking every ounce of
willpower not to mess with it. rawr!

katester
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Curt

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Mar 13, 2002, 6:20:38 PM3/13/02
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Kate A. Pohjola <kate...@katester.net> asked:

[snip]

>how do those of you that are single
>and/or live alone moisturize your
>healing tattoos on the parts of your
>body that you can't quite reach on
>your own?

[snip]

I'm not trying to be a smartass, but
which part of your body *can't*
you reach?

"Bugs, isn't there some kind of
RABbit fund in place for just such
an emergency? Call an escort service
local to the katester and ask them
to take along some Lubriderm, please."

Enjoy!

--
Curious Curt

Kate A. Pohjola

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Mar 13, 2002, 6:40:52 PM3/13/02
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Curt wrote:
> Kate A. Pohjola <kate...@katester.net> asked:
> >how do those of you that are single
> >and/or live alone moisturize your
> >healing tattoos on the parts of your
> >body that you can't quite reach on
> >your own?
>
> I'm not trying to be a smartass,

you're not trying hard enough (;

> but which part of your body *can't*
> you reach?

my left shoulder blade. i can reach parts of it, but not *all* of it.
maybe it's me, maybe i'm a klutz. maybe it's cuz i'm fatter than fat.
i dunno, i just can't reach.

> "Bugs, isn't there some kind of
> RABbit fund in place for just such
> an emergency? Call an escort service
> local to the katester and ask them
> to take along some Lubriderm, please."

dude, that'd so rock! (:

Nikki

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Mar 13, 2002, 7:28:22 PM3/13/02
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Kate A. Pohjola wrote:

> today's conundrum is this:
>
> how do those of you that are single and/or live alone moisturize
> your healing tattoos on the parts of your body that you can't quite
> reach on your own? if a friend is around, i make them rub some
> lotion in for me (Lubriderm for sensitive skin), but i'm curious
> what ya'll do when you're stuck alone.

Never tried this myself, but maybe one of those flexible rubber
spatulas?

--
Nikki
http://iam.bmezine.com/?anticipate
"The more you talk, the more I want to know
the way I'll remember you when I go."

i'll teach you to turn away.

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Mar 13, 2002, 8:45:39 PM3/13/02
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Kate A. Pohjola <kate...@katester.net> wrote:
KA P> how do those of you that are single and/or live alone moisturize your
KA P> healing tattoos on the parts of your body that you can't quite reach

apply lubriderm to tree; rub against tree. just like bears do in
the forest when THEY need to lotion THEIR tattoos.

ok, no. i can reach all of my body, you freak of nature.

lish "sometimes she's more metal
cr...@got.net inside than out." -hm
36.6% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

Tephra Lynn Davis

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Mar 13, 2002, 8:57:22 PM3/13/02
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Nikki <ni...@electricpenis.com> wrote:

> Kate A. Pohjola wrote:
>
>> today's conundrum is this:
>>
>> how do those of you that are single and/or live alone moisturize
>> your healing tattoos on the parts of your body that you can't quite
>> reach on your own? if a friend is around, i make them rub some
>> lotion in for me (Lubriderm for sensitive skin), but i'm curious what
>> ya'll do when you're stuck alone.
>
> Never tried this myself, but maybe one of those flexible rubber
> spatulas?

Those 'junk' catalogs often have long handled lotion applicators. Sort of
like a back brush but with (often replaceable) pads rather than bristles. I
have yet to see such things in stores but then I haven't actually been
looking.

Teph, who wondered how single people took care of backpieces until she saw
those things :)

Curt

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Mar 13, 2002, 9:11:15 PM3/13/02
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the katester wrote about skin
after I asked:

[snip]

>> which part of your body *can't*
>> you reach?
>
>my left shoulder blade. i can reach
>parts of it, but not *all* of it.
>maybe it's me, maybe i'm

[snip]

You're perfect.

Fun Web site <www.katester.net>, btw.

--
Curt

ali

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Mar 13, 2002, 10:12:13 PM3/13/02
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"Kate A. Pohjola" <kate...@katester.net> wrote in message
news:3C8FD87B...@katester.net...

> today's conundrum is this:
>
> how do those of you that are single and/or live alone moisturize your
> healing tattoos on the parts of your body that you can't quite reach on
> your own? if a friend is around, i make them rub some lotion in for me
> (Lubriderm for sensitive skin), but i'm curious what ya'll do when
> you're stuck alone.
>
I don't know if they have the type of lotion that you need, but Bath and
Body Works used to sell spray lotions....that's how I got my back.

Ali


Angela Kuhns

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Mar 14, 2002, 1:29:16 AM3/14/02
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On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:53:47 -0500, "Kate A. Pohjola"
<kate...@katester.net> wrote:

>today's conundrum is this:
>
>how do those of you that are single and/or live alone moisturize your
>healing tattoos on the parts of your body that you can't quite reach on
>your own?

what i did for a sunburn on my shoulder just out of reach that hit
itchy stage when i lived alone:

got naked.
got in shower with chosen lotion.
leaned on cool (dry!!) shower wall to see where my itchy spot would
hit.
squirt lotion on wall.
lean.
"ahh"
rub around a bit.
repeat squirting an leaning and rubbing.
"ahh"
sit naked on toilet in glow of after-lotion.
pat/wipe off extra lotion.
put on robe and wash shower wall.


close to the bear and a tree that lish mentioned, but it worked.
thank god no one saw me....


---Angie a.k.a. dstrss
"On second thought, I think I am more crazy than
my goat." - Remedios Varo
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Burphel

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Mar 14, 2002, 11:43:34 AM3/14/02
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Are you sure nobody saw you?
Have you checked all those spycam pr0n sites?
Cause if I was making those, this is exactly what I'd be looking for.
:-)

Carpe Noctum,
Burphel

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the Beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

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pin...@eskimo.cavegirl.org

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Mar 15, 2002, 9:36:20 AM3/15/02
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In article <3C8FE384...@katester.net>, Kate A. Pohjola wrote:
>
> my left shoulder blade. i can reach parts of it, but not *all* of it.
> maybe it's me, maybe i'm a klutz. maybe it's cuz i'm fatter than fat.
> i dunno, i just can't reach.

Just an idea but why not put some lotion on a piece of saran wrap and
rub it on the tatto like you are drying your back after a shower. You
can use both hands and a mirror. I have never tried it but hey.


pinkee
--
www.cavegirl.org

Kate A. Pohjola

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Mar 16, 2002, 12:39:03 AM3/16/02
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Ali wrote:

> "Kate A. Pohjola" <kate...@katester.net> wrote:
>>how do those of you that are single and/or live alone moisturize your
>>healing tattoos on the parts of your body that you can't quite reach on
>>your own?

>

> I don't know if they have the type of lotion that you need, but Bath and


> Body Works used to sell spray lotions....that's how I got my back.


welp, i stopped at Bath & Body Works today to see if they had spray
lotion. they didn't. i figured my next step would be the Lubriderm
plus the spatula or the saramwrap(tm).

lo and behold, i was looking for Aleve at the local Rite Aid and walked
past a display of Parfums de Coeur frou frou shit, and right there on
the top shelf were the spray lotions. i chose the least noxious scent -
"fresh white musk fantasy."

so now i smell like a teenager that just discovered fragrance but not
fragrance in moderation, and thankfully my back isn't nearly as
irritated. i just want it to stop itching enough to be able to ignore
it and i think this'll help. i dunno if i'd use it on a fresh tattoo,
though - i've got pretty sensitive skin, and this stuff has way too many
chemicals and crapola in there. for for a week post tattoo, sure why not.

thanks for the tip, Ali (:


no one move a muscle as the dead come home,
katester
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kate...@katester.net
http://www.katester.net

i'll teach you to turn away.

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Mar 16, 2002, 7:14:08 PM3/16/02
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Kate A. Pohjola <kate...@katester.net> wrote:
KA P> no one move a muscle as the dead come home,

ASSHOLE.

lish "it smells like ass & cat food in here.
cr...@got.net who's been havin' sex?" -dj

ali

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Mar 17, 2002, 11:28:56 PM3/17/02
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"Kate A. Pohjola" <kate...@katester.net> wrote in message
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> welp, i stopped at Bath & Body Works today to see if they had spray
> lotion. they didn't. i figured my next step would be the Lubriderm
> plus the spatula or the saramwrap(tm).
>
> lo and behold, i was looking for Aleve at the local Rite Aid and walked
> past a display of Parfums de Coeur frou frou shit, and right there on
> the top shelf were the spray lotions. i chose the least noxious scent -
> "fresh white musk fantasy."
>
> so now i smell like a teenager that just discovered fragrance but not
> fragrance in moderation, and thankfully my back isn't nearly as
> irritated. i just want it to stop itching enough to be able to ignore
> it and i think this'll help. i dunno if i'd use it on a fresh tattoo,
> though - i've got pretty sensitive skin, and this stuff has way too many
> chemicals and crapola in there. for for a week post tattoo, sure why not.
>
> thanks for the tip, Ali (:
>

You're very welcome..bummer that you could only find the perfumed ones
though....wonder why Bath and Body Works did away with that spray lotion?
Just when you find something you like...oh well....so goes life. Glad
you're a little less itchy now. :)

Ali


ApathyApathy4U

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Mar 28, 2002, 10:31:21 PM3/28/02
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>Subject: Re: tattoo angst
>From: pin...@eskimo.cavegirl.org

ew!!!!!
No no no no no no no!!!!
The tattoo artists I've talked to say never ever put saranwrap on a tattoo!!!!
Ever!!!

You should probably just call a friend over and have them help you out and
stuff.

Good Luck!!!

~Debbie~

-"Bring me wild plums and agrimony - I bet you don't even know what that
means." -Lisa Loeb

Klygrrrrl

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Mar 30, 2002, 1:25:59 PM3/30/02
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>> a smart RABbit suggested: Just an idea but why not put some lotion on a

piece of saran wrap and
>>rub it on the tatto like you are drying your back after a shower. You
>>can use both hands and a mirror. I have never tried it but hey.
>>
>
Debbie responded: >ew!!!!!

>No no no no no no no!!!!
>The tattoo artists I've talked to say never ever put saranwrap on a
>tattoo!!!!
>Ever!!!
>
>You should probably just call a friend over and have them help you out and
>stuff.
>

Just to clarify for you Debbie, the suggested advice said NOTHING about
wrapping said tattoo in saran wrap nor leaving saran wrap/lotion on tattoo for
any length of time. the saran wrap is merely the means to the end of getting
lotion on hard to reach place. Though your suggestion of getting a friend to
help may be more fun.

klygrrrrl

Tracy

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Apr 1, 2002, 3:29:04 PM4/1/02
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Simple recipe

Small spray bottle
3/4 distilled water (or hydrosol)
1/4 oil of your choice (olive, sweet almond, grapeseed)
Shake up well and mist over your back.

No chemicals, no poofy smelly stuff and cheap like borsch.

jerry

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Apr 17, 2002, 7:04:02 AM4/17/02
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I've been doing some work on my back and there are spots I can't reach
but I find that slapping it, usually with flat side of ruller helps
the itching quite a bit.

James Beverly

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Apr 20, 2002, 3:14:03 PM4/20/02
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When my wife is not home - I stick a small gauze pad on a long-handled
shower brush, add lotion, and rub away!
The gauze pad will stick to the bristles on the brush.

JIm
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The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Apr 21, 2002, 12:31:15 AM4/21/02
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so, i've got this tattoo on my right earlobe. i got it - oh, let's just
say a long time ago. i think i was 20, or maybe had just turned 21.
anyhow. i was young & dumb, for sure. and while i still approve of the
concept of having a tattoo on my earlobe, i don't like the one i have
and i wanna do something about it.

but i can't decide what to do. i'm kind of a candy-ass that way.

the options are, obviously:

1) get it removed
or
2)get it reworked/covered up

i haven't done much research in regard to removal, although i suppose
that since it's so small and faded at this point, it wouldn't take many
treatements to get rid of it. it would probably still cost a bunch of
money - certainly more than the twenty bucks the tattoo itself cost me,
but that doesn't matter. if that's what i decide to do, i'll do it and
deal with whatever it takes.

the problem i have with getting it removed is that...well...it seems
like a total pussy maneuver. i mean, it's *cheating*. isn't it?
what's the point of getting a tattoo if you're just gonna change your
mind fifteen years down the road and get rid of it? what did people do
in the bad old days when they couldn't just bop on down to the doctor's
office, shell out some cash and reverse their youthful mistakes? that's
right: they just sucked it up and lived with it! and yet...i hate it
and i don't want it on my body anymore and it's my body and i can do
whatever i want to with it...and yet...IT'S CHEATING!!!

so, yeah. i kinda go around in circles with myself on that one.

as far as getting it reworked, i'm wide open to the idea - but i'll be
damned if i can think of one single thing to do with it. the area is so
small - it's not as if i can just cover it up with something bigger &
better, and the shape of what's there now doesn't (at least, so far)
lend itself to any brilliant ideas for integration into a less hateful
design.

what's there now is a yin yang symbol. *sigh* does anything say "i was
a dumb teenage deadhead" like a yin yang tattoo on your earlobe? it's
embarrassing, for chrissakes. and long hair only hides it part of the
time - people still see it and comment on it (mostly positive comments,
which tend to make me grit my teeth while trying to smile politely and
avoid saying "are you fucking insane? i hate the stupid thing!").

i have no quarrel with my other tattoo, and am still considering a
third. it's not as if i want to delete them all and renounce my status
as an inked woman. but i still can't get past this nagging feeling that
as much as i dislike it and as much as it's mine to do with whatever i
choose, getting the damn thing removed is somehow just *wrong*. and i
cannot for the life of me think of a better design to cover it up with.

so, yeah. i've got that going for me.

obRABnewbie disclaimer: i'm not particularly seeking advice on any of
this (although if anyone has any bright ideas i'd love to hear them).
mostly i just wanted to whine about it.

queenie
"long time listener, first time caller"

Mage josefina

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Apr 21, 2002, 2:07:49 AM4/21/02
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>what's there now is a yin yang symbol. *sigh* does anything say "i was
>a dumb teenage deadhead" like a yin yang tattoo on your earlobe

how would you feel about a black sun? i'm only a dumb teenage deadhead, but
it's circular, and if the yin yang's small enough, it could work - or maybe put
little flower petals around it... i dunno, try to think of something you like
that has a circle in the middle. an artist might have some ideas too.

~laura

Corine

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Apr 21, 2002, 4:04:28 AM4/21/02
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"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <que...@hermajesty.com> wrote in message
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obRABnewbie disclaimer: i'm not particularly seeking advice on any of
> this (although if anyone has any bright ideas i'd love to hear them).
> mostly i just wanted to whine about it.

*Excellent! You came to the right place :)
Just one thought:
how about visiting a tattoo artist you like/admire his/her work and ask what
heshe could do to, ahem, make your lobe more beautiful.
It might help you make up your mind...enhancing versus cheating.
Have fun!

Corine


Nina Baltes

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Apr 21, 2002, 4:31:51 AM4/21/02
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The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:

> office, shell out some cash and reverse their youthful mistakes? that's
> right: they just sucked it up and lived with it! and yet...i hate it
> and i don't want it on my body anymore and it's my body and i can do
> whatever i want to with it...and yet...IT'S CHEATING!!!

Um- contrary to what the chruch wants you to believe, you don't
have to suffer eternally for your sins. If you think you're happier
with no tattoo than with a new tattoo, go ahead and get it removed.

Nina
--
C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
Louis Pasteur
http://www.chaotropic.net

intergalactic snitty princess

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On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 04:31:15 GMT, que...@hermajesty.com (The Queen of
Cans and Jars) wrote:

>so, i've got this tattoo on my right earlobe. i

>don't like the one i have and i wanna do something about it.
>but i can't decide what to do. i'm kind of a candy-ass that way.
>the options are, obviously:
>1) get it removed
>or
>2)get it reworked/covered up

or
3. buy some dermablend.

www.dermablend.com
www.qvc.com

~christyn.


***yank me to reply***

i'll teach you to turn away.

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Apr 21, 2002, 10:20:34 AM4/21/02
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The Queen of Cans and Jars <que...@hermajesty.com> wrote:

your post only vaguely relates to the original thread. if you
insist on posting here, learn how to start a new thread for your
particular bullshit.

TQoCaJ> the problem i have with getting it removed is that...well...it seems
TQoCaJ> like a total pussy maneuver. i mean, it's *cheating*. isn't it?

while nina's comment is true, i agree with this line of reasoning.
i'm not a fan of coverups either, though enhancements/reworks make sense
to me because the original design is still intact. it's about making a
choice for your life & sticking by it.

that said, you made a stupid choice. admit that fact to yourself
(not just to us) & do whatever it takes to make yourself happy.

TQoCaJ> as far as getting it reworked, i'm wide open to the idea - but i'll
TQoCaJ> damned if i can think of one single thing to do with it. the area

take a photo & give us the url / offer to email it around. we
can't guess.

you could also try a session or two under the laser to lighten the
work enough to be covered by something that's not solid black.

TQoCaJ> mostly i just wanted to whine about it.

sure didn't come to the right place there#@!!

lish "L.I.S.H.: Lifeform Intended for
cr...@got.net Sabotage and Harm." -bs

Curt

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Apr 21, 2002, 12:36:30 PM4/21/02
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Queenie, a.k.a. The Queen of Cans and Jars,
whined :-) and I snipped a bit:

> so, i've got this tattoo on my right earlobe.

> the problem i have with getting it removed is that...

> it's *cheating*. isn't it?

No. It's called *changing your mind* and that's
something people do every single day, Queenie.
Don't _kick_ yourself so much over such a
normal occurrence.

> as far as getting it reworked, i'm wide open to the idea - but i'll be
> damned if i can think of one single thing to do with it. the area is so
> small

How small? Have you thought of having it dermal punched?

I had a tiny scar on my left earlobe that I disliked.
People often commented on it and that also made me
uncomfortable. I went to the local piercing shop and
asked what could be done. Nick suggested a punch.

He punched that scar away to my delight. Perhaps your
earlobe tattoo could be economically removed courtesy of
a 0-gauge punch?



> obRABnewbie disclaimer: i'm not particularly seeking advice on any of
> this (although if anyone has any bright ideas i'd love to hear them).

Well, I'm not sure how _bright_ you'll consider my idea,
but there it is. I love your nickname, btw.

Best of luck in your decision.

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The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Apr 23, 2002, 4:21:23 PM4/23/02
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Mage josefina <magejo...@aol.com> wrote:

> >what's there now is a yin yang symbol. *sigh* does anything say "i was

> >a dumb teenage deadhead" like a yin yang tattoo on your earlobe?


>
> how would you feel about a black sun?

i would feel like a wannabe goth.

> i dunno, try to think of something you like
> that has a circle in the middle.

yeah, that much is obvious. there just isn't much space available
*around* it.

The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Corine <smilin...@home.nl.killspam> wrote:

> "The Queen of Cans and Jars" <que...@hermajesty.com> wrote:
>
> > obRABnewbie disclaimer: i'm not particularly seeking advice on any of
> > this (although if anyone has any bright ideas i'd love to hear them).
> > mostly i just wanted to whine about it.
>
> *Excellent! You came to the right place :)

mheh. i promise to try to whine in a marginally entertaining fashion
and not be a ninny.

> Just one thought:
> how about visiting a tattoo artist you like/admire his/her work and ask what
> heshe could do to, ahem, make your lobe more beautiful.

i will probably go talk to a woman who one of my friends swears by.
i've seen the work she's done on said friend; it's quite good and i
believe this woman also does permanent makeup tattooing (a concept that
i personally find ridiculous), so i suppose she'd be trustworthy with
something so small and close to the face...but what i'm really leaning
toward at this point is curt's suggestion of dermal punches.

The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Nina Baltes <ni...@chaotropic.net> wrote:

> The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
>
> > office, shell out some cash and reverse their youthful mistakes? that's
> > right: they just sucked it up and lived with it! and yet...i hate it
> > and i don't want it on my body anymore and it's my body and i can do
> > whatever i want to with it...and yet...IT'S CHEATING!!!
>
> Um- contrary to what the chruch wants you to believe, you don't
> have to suffer eternally for your sins.

i don't believe in suffering at all. but i also don't believe in taking
the easy way out.

The Queen of Cans and Jars

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intergalactic snitty princess <snitty...@exciteME.com> wrote:

> The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
>
> >so, i've got this tattoo on my right earlobe.
> >

> >1) get it removed
> >or
> >2)get it reworked/covered up
> or
> 3. buy some dermablend.

this would be a viable option if it were actually preventing me from
getting a job or something, but my workplace is tattoo-friendly and i
absolutely detest the feeling of makeup on my skin.

The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Apr 23, 2002, 4:21:37 PM4/23/02
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i'll teach you to turn away. <cr...@got.net> wrote:

> The Queen of Cans and Jars <que...@hermajesty.com> wrote:
>
> your post only vaguely relates to the original thread. if you
> insist on posting here, learn how to start a new thread for your
> particular bullshit.

i did start a thread for my bullshit, li'l miss cranky pants. if it
didn't show up on your end as such, that's just too bad. i'm not
responsible for the vagaries of your news server.

> TQoCaJ> the problem i have with getting it removed is that...well...it seems
> TQoCaJ> like a total pussy maneuver. i mean, it's *cheating*. isn't it?

> that said, you made a stupid choice. admit that fact to yourself


> (not just to us) & do whatever it takes to make yourself happy.

oh, i've admitted it. over and over again.

> TQoCaJ> as far as getting it reworked, i'm wide open to the idea - but i'll
> TQoCaJ> damned if i can think of one single thing to do with it. the area
>
> take a photo & give us the url / offer to email it around. we
> can't guess.

http://home.attbi.com/~flaagg/qtat.htm

the resolution on the jpg of my ear isn't great, but it's not rocket
science to figure it out.

> you could also try a session or two under the laser to lighten the
> work enough to be covered by something that's not solid black.

truly. i hadn't thought of that. thanks.

> TQoCaJ> mostly i just wanted to whine about it.
>
> sure didn't come to the right place there#@!!

hee! i got fuck-all from my so-called friends. "wear big earrings,"
they said. "just leave it alone," they told me. morons.

The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Apr 23, 2002, 4:21:41 PM4/23/02
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Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Queenie, a.k.a. The Queen of Cans and Jars,
> whined :-) and I snipped a bit:
>
> > so, i've got this tattoo on my right earlobe.
>
> > the problem i have with getting it removed is that...
>
> > it's *cheating*. isn't it?
>
> No. It's called *changing your mind* and that's
> something people do every single day, Queenie.
> Don't _kick_ yourself so much over such a
> normal occurrence.

oh, i'm really only kicking myself to make the story a little more
amusing. i'm not one to be a big drama queen(ie), but i do tend to take
a long time to make up my mind about things.

> > the area is so small
>
> How small? Have you thought of having it dermal punched?

well, i have now. i think it just might do the trick. (link to pic
posted in reply to lish, if you're interested.)

> I had a tiny scar on my left earlobe that I disliked.

i read your essay :)

> Perhaps your earlobe tattoo could be economically removed courtesy of
> a 0-gauge punch?

0 might do it, but i might have to go as high as 00. (the tattoo is a
little more than a quarter of an inch "tall".) after the research i did
on the subject yesterday, i'm really leaning towards this idea. thank
you very much for contributing it.


> Well, I'm not sure how _bright_ you'll consider my idea,
> but there it is.

to be honest, my first thought was "i am *so* not the kind of person to
have big ol' holes punched in my earlobes," but then i started looking
at plugs and when i discovered that there are some very beautiful ones
available, i warmed up to the idea considerably.

> I love your nickname, btw.

*curtsies* thank you, mr. james. i love your calvin&hobbes.

N Jill Marsh

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Apr 23, 2002, 6:02:01 PM4/23/02
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:21:37 GMT, que...@hermajesty.com (The Queen of
Cans and Jars)wrote:

>http://home.attbi.com/~flaagg/qtat.htm


>
>the resolution on the jpg of my ear isn't great, but it's not rocket
>science to figure it out.

You've got nice ears, they would look nice punched, yes. It is a very
little tattoo, and it doesn't seem black black though. If you've got
the money, why not do a couple of sessions with removal? If nothing
else, it's going to provide you with more options.

Remember, in a few years, you might not like the punch, and one that
size isn't going to totally shrink up and go away. Make sure you
really really want one, rather than take it as the lesser eeevil
option.

nj"generally roots for the greater eeevil"m

"Take me with you as you move through next week."

i'll teach you to turn away.

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Apr 23, 2002, 6:05:24 PM4/23/02
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The Queen of Cans and Jars <que...@hermajesty.com> wrote:
TQoCaJ> i'll teach you to turn away. <cr...@got.net> wrote:
> that said, you made a stupid choice. admit that fact to yourself
> (not just to us) & do whatever it takes to make yourself happy.
TQoCaJ> oh, i've admitted it. over and over again.

if that were true, you wouldn't feel so bad about removing or
covering it.

TQoCaJ> the resolution on the jpg of my ear isn't great, but it's not rocket
TQoCaJ> science to figure it out.

that's totally fixable. if the gray in the jpeg is accurate, a
good artist could probably cover it with color & not just a big black
spot.

lish "i've got half a mind
cr...@got.net to rape you on principle." -jerkcity

Curt

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Apr 23, 2002, 7:47:23 PM4/23/02
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Queenie, a.k.a. The Queen of Cans and Jars,
replied to my scribbling about her lobe tattoo:

>> > the area is so small
>>
>> How small? Have you thought of having it dermal punched?
>
>well, i have now. i think it just might do the trick. (link to pic
>posted in reply to lish, if you're interested.)

Thanks for the URL.

>> Perhaps your earlobe tattoo could be economically removed courtesy of
>> a 0-gauge punch?
>
>0 might do it, but i might have to go as high as 00. (the tattoo is a
>little more than a quarter of an inch "tall".) after the research i did
>on the subject yesterday, i'm really leaning towards this idea. thank
>you very much for contributing it.

You're welcome, but don't hunt me down when you discover
*perhaps* that you regret getting the punches done. :-)

Consider your options as recommended throughout
this thread, of course.

>> I love your nickname, btw.
>
>*curtsies* thank you, mr. james. i love your calvin&hobbes.

<blush>

You're welcome *again*. Glad you liked the C&H tattoo.
Please post a follow-up of your decision or if you need
another session of _Angst Begone_.

</blush>

--
Curt
http://www.curtjames.com/

Nina Baltes

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Apr 24, 2002, 2:37:19 AM4/24/02
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The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:

> i will probably go talk to a woman who one of my friends swears by.
> i've seen the work she's done on said friend; it's quite good and i
> believe this woman also does permanent makeup tattooing (a concept that
> i personally find ridiculous),

Not just ridiculous. Fraudulent. One of these "artists" has been fined
by a German court.

The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Apr 27, 2002, 1:35:20 PM4/27/02
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i'll teach you to turn away. <cr...@got.net> wrote:

> The Queen of Cans and Jars <que...@hermajesty.com> wrote:
> TQoCaJ> i'll teach you to turn away. <cr...@got.net> wrote:
> > that said, you made a stupid choice. admit that fact to yourself
> > (not just to us) & do whatever it takes to make yourself happy.
> TQoCaJ> oh, i've admitted it. over and over again.
>
> if that were true, you wouldn't feel so bad about removing or
> covering it.

i don't feel *bad*. i just can't decide what to do. it's taken me
almost two years to decide that i'm sick enough of it to *do* something
about it, and now i'll probably spend a year deciding what to do.

> TQoCaJ> the resolution on the jpg of my ear isn't great, but it's not rocket
> TQoCaJ> science to figure it out.
>
> that's totally fixable. if the gray in the jpeg is accurate, a
> good artist could probably cover it with color & not just a big black
> spot.

it's maybe a half shade darker than the picture indicates. quite faded
from its original black - it's nearly fifteen years old. finding a good
artist may involve traveling, which is fine with me. i'll start looking
after the school semester ends and i have the time to do the driving.
i'll look locally as well, but i don't hold out a lot of hope; i won't
even go into the shop around the corner from my house because i detest
the artwork they hung in their windows.

The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Apr 27, 2002, 1:35:24 PM4/27/02
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Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Queenie, a.k.a. The Queen of Cans and Jars,
> replied to my scribbling about her lobe tattoo:
>

> >well, i have now. i think it just might do the trick. (link to pic
> >posted in reply to lish, if you're interested.)
>
> Thanks for the URL.

surely. thanks to flaagg for putting the pictures up for me.

> >> Perhaps your earlobe tattoo could be economically removed courtesy of
> >> a 0-gauge punch?
> >

> >i'm really leaning towards this idea. thank
> >you very much for contributing it.
>
> You're welcome, but don't hunt me down when you discover
> *perhaps* that you regret getting the punches done. :-)

no worries there. i'm one of those kooky people who actually believes
in taking responsibility for her own actions. and i won't do anything
about this tattoo until i'm sure it's what i want to do: i already made
one mistake and i'm not anxious to make another one.

> Consider your options as recommended throughout
> this thread, of course.

i certainly will, and once i have some free time i'll be actively going
out and looking into the various options available to me.

> Please post a follow-up of your decision or if you need
> another session of _Angst Begone_.

i will!

The Queen of Cans and Jars

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Apr 27, 2002, 1:35:29 PM4/27/02
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Nina Baltes <ni...@chaotropic.net> wrote:

> The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
>
> > i will probably go talk to a woman who one of my friends swears by.
> > i've seen the work she's done on said friend; it's quite good and i
> > believe this woman also does permanent makeup tattooing (a concept that
> > i personally find ridiculous),
>
> Not just ridiculous. Fraudulent. One of these "artists" has been fined
> by a German court.

really? fraudulent on what grounds? i'd be curious to know.

Nina Baltes

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Apr 28, 2002, 5:17:50 AM4/28/02
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On the grounds that skin renewal doesn't work the way they claim.
They claim that the skin layer they put the ink to takes years to
renew. Fact is, the epidermis renews itself about every 28 days,
and the underlying dermis doesn't shed at all, which is why a
suntan is gone after a few weeks while tattoos last pretty much
forever.

While this is common knowledge for anyone who's done the most basic
research in dermatology, as it was stated in the verdict, these
people simply claim otherwise, and they say that if these tattoos
don't disappear, the 'artist' must have done something wrong.

Also, since these "time-tattoos" or "bio-tattoos" were first
introduced (which must have been around 1992 here in Germany), the
time they take to disappear (according to the "artists") has gone
up from two years to 10-15 years.
Check google for more in-depth explanations ;).

Susan

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Apr 28, 2002, 7:16:19 AM4/28/02
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"Nina Baltes" <ni...@chaotropic.net> wrote in message
news:aageq5$ahojr$1...@ID-2735.news.dfncis.de...

<snipped>

Nina,

While you have said many valid things here about so-called semi-permananent
tattoos, I don't think that's what she's describing. She mentions permanent
makeup (which I have had done), not semi-permanent tattooing, as being one
of the purported skills of the artist she's thinking of. Or did I miss
something?

Susan

Nina Baltes

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Apr 28, 2002, 7:53:59 AM4/28/02
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Susan wrote:

> While you have said many valid things here about so-called semi-permananent
> tattoos, I don't think that's what she's describing. She mentions permanent
> makeup (which I have had done), not semi-permanent tattooing, as being one
> of the purported skills of the artist she's thinking of. Or did I miss
> something?

Maybe I misinterpreted (the "ridiculous concept" remark may have
pointed me in the wrong direction ;) ). The bio-tattoos over here
are sometimes called permanent makeup tattoos as they use the same
equipment and it's usually done by the same people.

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