I did not know that.
Curt
There was a copy of Biography magazine at the coin-op laundry where I
was planted this afternoon for an hour or so. Apparently he has twelve
tattoos. Wonder if he uses Dermablend to cover up the words "PORN" and
"STAR" on his knuckles.
That's my trivia. And my bad joke as well.
Hm. I just Googled Dermablend to check the spelling (yeah, Curt =
Nerd) and they have a tattoo cover-up on their front page as part of a
series of before and after photos.
And is it me or does the Black lady look a helluva lot better in the
BEFORE picture?
--
Curt
http://iam.bmezine.com/?curt
http://www.curtjames.com/
Richard Hunter
bus, Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
<Snip>
>And is it me or does the Black lady look a helluva lot better in the
>BEFORE picture?
if by 'better' you mean tired-looking with lots of shine, then
yes, she looked better.
david
--
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/derbarbier/
(ebay sales)
http://shops.half.com/derbarbier
stickneedlesinme at mindspring dot com
fr0glet
> And is it me or does the Black lady
Why is black capitalized here? Wouldn't you feel weird if you saw someone
had typed white with a capital W?
fr0glet
i'll teach you to turn away.
C> Charlie Sheen has tattoos.
so does, i'm told, keifer sutherland. big ol' jailhouse pieces all
up & down both arms. at least, that's what was reported by a guy who said
he once delivered a hotel room service meal to keifer, & who also does not
call when he says he will. AHEM.
lish "you never
cr...@got.net make it easy." -sc
39.3% / 30 RANA 125 / 68
Richard Hunter
i'll teach you to turn away. <cr...@got.net> wailed loudly and
vomited the words:
>Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>C> Charlie Sheen has tattoos.
>
> so does, i'm told, keifer sutherland. big ol' jailhouse pieces all
>up & down both arms. at least, that's what was reported by a guy who said
>he once delivered a hotel room service meal to keifer, & who also does not
>call when he says he will. AHEM.
sorry. i've been busy.
i'll teach you to turn away.
RH> i'll teach you to turn away. <cr...@got.net>
>up & down both arms. at least, that's what was reported by a guy who said
>he once delivered a hotel room service meal to keifer, & who also does not
>call when he says he will. AHEM.
ha ha! aren't you clever!
no. you aren't. neither is this.
lish "the knowledge in & of itself
cr...@got.net is more than you deserve." -ftf
x
news:m4ugjvod3val88405...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 02:17:01 GMT, while driving the porcelain
> bus, Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wailed loudly and vomited the
> words:
>
> <Snip>
> >And is it me or does the Black lady look a helluva lot better in the
> >BEFORE picture?
>
> if by 'better' you mean tired-looking with lots of shine, then
> yes, she looked better.
>
Maybe by 'better' he meant "not like an old white annoying cock sucker". But
then, I'm sure he would've said she looks better in BOTH photos, comparted
to that.
--
x
"being the smartest window-licker on the shortbus doesn't make you a genius"
Susan
"x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote in message
news:gS8_a.126114$4UE....@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> Maybe by 'better' he meant "not like an old white annoying cock sucker".
But
> then, I'm sure he would've said she looks better in BOTH photos, comparted
> to that.
Now that's unkind. David's not that old.
Susan
Curt
>"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote...
>> And is it me or does the Black lady
>
>Why is black capitalized here?
Why not?
http://www.blackfacts.com/
"A record number of Black congressmen and the first Black woman
representative were..."
http://www.blink.org.uk/
"There's a whole set of young Black men who are looking for a
motivational leadership that speaks to..."
You're right, however. "And is it me or does the black lady..." would
have worked, too. And perhaps it's not the same as writing Native
American, Asian, or Hispanic - all proper nouns - but I feel
comfortable writing Black lady, Black community, Black whatever.
>Wouldn't you feel weird if you saw someone had typed
>white with a capital W?
No.
intergalactic snitty princess
>>Wouldn't you feel weird if you saw someone had typed
>>white with a capital W?
>
>No.
Crap. Figures there's no "www.whitefacts.com".
~c.
***yank me to reply***
fr0glet
> You're right, however. "And is it me or does the black lady..." would
> have worked, too. And perhaps it's not the same as writing Native
> American, Asian, or Hispanic - all proper nouns - but I feel
> comfortable writing Black lady, Black community, Black whatever.
But black is not a pronoun. Black is not a proper noun. Black is a color,
and indeed a skin tone, but not a race. To be physically black could
represent a number of very diverse races and cultures.
I know this is a grammatical semantics point, but I see that it has larger
sociological implications and thereby am pointing it out.
> >Wouldn't you feel weird if you saw someone had typed
> >white with a capital W?
>
> No.
Really? I am bothered by it. If I see someone giving undue priority to their
race (such as "I am a White man") I immediately think "ETHNOCENTRISM!!".
fr0glet
Curt
>Crap. Figures there's no "www.whitefacts.com".
That would be: THE REST OF THE FREAKING INTERNET! <g>
--
x
"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c2gijvohqncimlmg4...@4ax.com...
Even suffixed with a cutesy <g> that's a highly offensive comment.
You should get to know Dave. You two could suck cock together.
Keith Alexander®
>That would be: THE REST OF THE FREAKING INTERNET!
*** Moron.
---
k e i t h . a l e x a n d e r
http://www.nootrope.net
http://www.modernamerican.com
aim: nootrope9 satori
-- e n d . t r a n s m i s s i o n --
Curt
>"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
>> intergalactic snitty princess <snitty...@exciteME.com> wrote:<snip>
>> >Crap. Figures there's no "www.whitefacts.com".
>>
>> That would be: THE REST OF THE FREAKING INTERNET! <g>
>
Now did I say that that was a good thing, x? If you knew me at all,
you'd know that I was not making a "Hey, cool. The white guys control
the Internet!" comment.
Do we?
Actually, I think the Internet is controlled by... what race is Al
Gore? He's white, right? Wait, he only *invented* the Internet.
>You should get to know Dave.
We've talked. We've swapped emails, IMs, even snail mail addresses.
Although he's still waiting for his cartoon and I'm still waiting for
my needles.
>You two could suck cock together.
We could. If I sucked cock.
x
> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
> >"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
> >> intergalactic snitty princess <snitty...@exciteME.com> wrote:<snip>
> >> >Crap. Figures there's no "www.whitefacts.com".
> >>
> >> That would be: THE REST OF THE FREAKING INTERNET! <g>
> >
> >Even suffixed with a cutesy <g> that's a highly offensive comment.
>
> Now did I say that that was a good thing, x? If you knew me at all,
> you'd know that I was not making a "Hey, cool. The white guys control
> the Internet!" comment.
Did I say anything about you implying it was good/bad? The comment, in and
of itself, was offensive. What don't you understand about my response? I
don;t know you at all, and neither would I want to, if you're too thick to
understand what I said.
> Do we?
Who's "WE"?
> >You should get to know Dave.
>
> We've talked. We've swapped emails, IMs, even snail mail addresses.
> Although he's still waiting for his cartoon and I'm still waiting for
> my needles.
Needle swapping with a bio-hazardous homo. Brilliant.
> >You two could suck cock together.
>
> We could. If I sucked cock anymore.
--
x
"being the smartest window-licker on the shortbus doesn't make you a genius"
Curt
<fr0...@fr0glet.hates.spambots.org> wrote:
>"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
>> >Wouldn't you feel weird if you saw someone had typed
>> >white with a capital W?
>>
>> No.
>
>Really? I am bothered by it. If I see someone giving undue priority to their
>race (such as "I am a White man") I immediately think "ETHNOCENTRISM!!".
Hrm. Ethnocentrism:
http://www.iupui.edu/~anthkb/ethnocen.htm
I'm all about the cross-cultural comparison.
Of course, no one should support rampant ethnocentrism, but when my
Latina students declare: "ĄYo soy boriqua para siempre!" or a black
student says, "I know I'm black and I'm beautiful." I see nothing
wrong with that. Pride is not automatically a negative thing.
Certainly with all the negative self-concepts floating around, there
should be more encouragement toward self acceptance and, yes, pride.
Race is not the concern for many people of color, imo. Black,
Hispanic, and Caucasian students were watching BET and one student was
surprised by a certain rapper's race. White, btw. Negative comments
were made about the rapper and I said, "White person here. Hey!"
The student's reply was something like, "Oh, my bad. But you're not
rich."
It wasn't that the rapper was white. But white *and rich*. The line of
division was drawn on the dollar sign.
I snipped the whole pronoun and proper noun stuff, Sarah, but did you
read the links that I included in my one reply? Did you notice the
examples in the quotes (not my own)? I think that this - perhaps I'm
stretching here - connects to the fluidity of the English language.
Just as gauge and stretching are used by some in a synonymous fashion
so is black used by some - if not many - as a pronoun and/or a proper
noun regardless of what may appear in the latest grammar book.
But, really, I was merely making a distinction between the one model
and the other based on a quickly indentifiable physical
characteristic. Her skin. Which I believed looked a "ton better" in
the Before shot.
I hope you don't see some evil "white makes right" aura leaping from
my posts. It's absolutely not there.
It's all about the dialogue. Let's continue, shall we?
i'll teach you to turn away.
C> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
>You two could suck cock together.
oh, you don't have to suck cock to suck cock, curt.
lish "her sadness & her pain
cr...@got.net somehow drew my cruelty." -jc
i'll teach you to turn away.
x> "Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> We've talked. We've swapped emails, IMs, even snail mail addresses.
> Although he's still waiting for his cartoon and I'm still waiting for
> my needles.
psst. don't misinterpret this post as any sort of defense of curt
or dave, because it's not, but at least have the decency to call someone a
"homo" in a DIFFERENT thread than the one in which you get all burnt about
curt's soi-disant offensive whitey-runs-the-internet remark.
lish "you have pretty good posture
cr...@got.net for someone without a backbone." -lm
Curt
>Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>C> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
>>You two could suck cock together.
>C> We could. If I sucked cock.
>
> oh, you don't have to suck cock to suck cock, curt.
Ain't it the truth.
This thread is beginning to suck cock.
On topic: Charlie Sheen's tattoos: One is in the shape of a note
reading "Back in 15 Minutes."
???
Curt
<cr...@got.net> wrote:<snip>
><snip>soi-disant<snip>
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/soi-disant
Neti pot. And now soi-disant. Nice one.
Yeah, I had noticed that. "HIGHLY OFFENSIVE" followed by "ew, suck
cock together." Okay, he didn't say ew, but still.
And no defense taken, dear.
--
i'll teach you to turn away.
C> And no defense taken, dear.
do you know who else called me "dear"?
don't.
lish "it's been written with love
cr...@got.net & it's been sealed with a kick." -jc
JSin
>
> Really? I am bothered by it. If I see someone giving undue priority to their
> race (such as "I am a White man") I immediately think "ETHNOCENTRISM!!".
So does that make me colored???? <got black here, pink there, a bit of
yellow, some red>
Gonna go check out some ethnocentric grants for colored people.
In all seriousness I really wish we could get over this whole color
issue. Once had a co worker complain about how hard his life is with all
the predudice, making excuses for every little thing and blaming the
whitey for all his ills.... I looked him straight in the eye and told
him "I chose to become colored" went on to explain that I have never
used my mods as an excuse for my failiers and that he needs to take some
reponsibility for his actions.. After that we got on great.
The bootom line to me is no ethnic descriptor should be capitalized
because it really is not germaine to the discusssion. I mean really who
cares about the color of ones hide execept for the bigots.
--
J<technicolor>Sin
Lost Generation Custom Tattoo
To reply Kill the idiot
Curt
> don't.
Okay.
--
Curt
> I mean really who cares about the color of ones hide<snip>
::raises hand::
Olive-colored skin, the seemingly translucent skin of a natural
redhead, ebony skin, honey browns. Not the beer. Okay, AND the beer.
Also, I get the gist, I believe, of what you said and I agree.
Just sayin'.
dee
"i'll teach you to turn away." <cr...@got.net> wrote in message
news:bhbmc8$101807$1...@ID-56799.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >You two could suck cock together.
> C> We could. If I sucked cock.
>
> oh, you don't have to suck cock to suck cock, curt.
It's true.
Being a phone sex operator, I find there seem to be quite a number of men
who "don't suck cock" but apparently would if presented with one. (Well, so
long as there's a woman standing there "making" him do it, of course).
dee
Saran Wrap, it's not just for leftovers anymore
Sunlight
"JSin" <js...@ennie.idiotbudy.com> wrote in message
news:bhbo1...@enews2.newsguy.com...
> The bootom line to me is no ethnic descriptor should be capitalized
> because it really is not germaine to the discusssion. I mean really who
> cares about the color of ones hide execept for the bigots.
I trust, JSin, that you're not saying that there are no times when skin
colour is relevant. This being a body art newsgroup and all :-)
I don't capitalise skin colours; when you get down to basics, they're just
descriptive terms.
Richard Hunter
bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
>"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
>news:m4ugjvod3val88405...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 02:17:01 GMT, while driving the porcelain
>> bus, Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wailed loudly and vomited the
>> words:
>>
>> <Snip>
>> >And is it me or does the Black lady look a helluva lot better in the
>> >BEFORE picture?
>>
>> if by 'better' you mean tired-looking with lots of shine, then
>> yes, she looked better.
>>
>
>Maybe by 'better' he meant "not like an old white annoying cock sucker".
yeah, it's pretty difficult for a black woman to look like an old
white person. how do you know the woman in the photo sucks
cocks? she might actually be a lesbian. or a nun.
>But
>then, I'm sure he would've said she looks better in BOTH photos, comparted
>to that.
comparted?
Richard Hunter
bus, "Susan" <sca...@comcast.net> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
>
thank you, Susan.
Richard Hunter
bus, Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
>x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
<Snip>
>>You should get to know Dave.
>
>We've talked. We've swapped emails, IMs, even snail mail addresses.
>Although he's still waiting for his cartoon and I'm still waiting for
>my needles.
i swear i sent them. but it was post-911, so there's no telling
what happened to them.
david
--
"i'm diggin' on the isotopes, this megaphysics
shit is dope, and if all this can give me hope,
you know i'm satisfied." -madonna, "american life"
Curt
>how do you know the woman in the photo sucks
ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT NUNS DON'T SUCK COCK???
Er, I mean we have gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender
Catholics. And we've got the recent appointment of an
avowedly homosexual Episcopalian bishop, so my money's on
there being a nun out there right now sucking cock like a
champ. Odds are.
Curt
><snip>Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> w<snip>
>>Although he's still waiting for his cartoon and I'm still waiting for
>>my needles.
>
>i swear i sent them. but it was post-911, so there's no telling
>what happened to them.
Al-Qaeda.
--
fr0glet
> <fr0...@fr0glet.hates.spambots.org> wrote:
> >"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
> >> >Wouldn't you feel weird if you saw someone had typed
> >> >white with a capital W?
> >> No.
> >Really? I am bothered by it. If I see someone giving undue priority to
their
> >race (such as "I am a White man") I immediately think "ETHNOCENTRISM!!".
> Hrm. Ethnocentrism:
> http://www.iupui.edu/~anthkb/ethnocen.htm
>
> student says, "I know I'm black and I'm beautiful." I see nothing
> wrong with that. Pride is not automatically a negative thing.
I didn't mention pride. Are you talking about justifying white pride? I'm
not.
I'm talking about placing undue priority on a noun and this being indicative
of underlying inequality.
I figure you'll appreciate my assistance in correcting your grammar where
you've failed; regardless of Christyn's suave teachings I am willing to
serve up what you dish out! :)
> Certainly with all the negative self-concepts floating around, there
> should be more encouragement toward self acceptance and, yes, pride.
I'm an ego stroker myself. But I think there is a time and a place to
celebrate self acceptance. In this case, I did not understand why you would
take a "hot word" like black and capitalize it. I'm not even coming close to
implying that persons of any race, creed, religion, sex, orientation, or
political party should feel any better or worse about themselves for their
birthrights or choices. If I was to make an implication about those things,
it would be a position of equality. Strange that I'm presently involved in a
similar off-topic discussion on another newsgroup. Maybe I'm one of those
annoying pro-equality semantics bitches. I also disdain and challenge use of
the word gay to indicate a not positive or not pleasing thing. MY $DEITY, I
AM A SEMANTICAL NAG!
> Race is not the concern for many people of color, imo.
Wrong. Be a person of color and reevaluate that position. Until you can,
until you are, your opinion is irretrievably biased by your position as a
white man.
> Black,
> Hispanic, and Caucasian students were watching BET and one student was
> surprised by a certain rapper's race. White, btw. Negative comments
> were made about the rapper and I said, "White person here. Hey!"
> The student's reply was something like, "Oh, my bad. But you're not
> rich." It wasn't that the rapper was white. But white *and rich*. The line
of
> division was drawn on the dollar sign.
OK, so we're talking about what age of a student? A
racially/emotionally/politically/educationally immature human being with a
possible lifetime of racial influence, poverty influence, whathaveyou? Do
you know the background that student comes from?
IMO your position as a teacher enables you to open a diverse variety of
closed minds. Your student in question appears to have a different *ism up
his ass.
> examples in the quotes (not my own)? I think that this - perhaps I'm
> stretching here - connects to the fluidity of the English language.
Indeed. In this case I don't agree with the usage or the history thereof.
> Just as gauge and stretching are used by some in a synonymous fashion
Not just as. Totally different linguistic evolution, with far more profound
implications.
> so is black used by some - if not many - as a pronoun and/or a proper
> noun regardless of what may appear in the latest grammar book.
A song comes to mind:
I'M BLACK Y'ALL, AND I'M BLACK Y'ALL, I'M BLACKER THAN BLACK AND I'M BLACK
Y'ALL
Is that what you meant?
fr0glet
JSin
> "JSin" <js...@ennie.idiotbudy.com> wrote in message
> news:bhbo1...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>
>
>>The bootom line to me is no ethnic descriptor should be capitalized
>>because it really is not germaine to the discusssion. I mean really who
>>cares about the color of ones hide execept for the bigots.
>
>
> I trust, JSin, that you're not saying that there are no times when skin
> colour is relevant. This being a body art newsgroup and all :-)
Only in so far as they relate to how ink is going to appear under it.
>
> I don't capitalise skin colours; when you get down to basics, they're just
> descriptive terms.
My point exactly :-)
--
JSin
JSin
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:47:08 GMT, while driving the porcelain
> bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
> words:
>
>
>>"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
>>news:m4ugjvod3val88405...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 02:17:01 GMT, while driving the porcelain
>>>bus, Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wailed loudly and vomited the
>>>words:
>>
>>Maybe by 'better' he meant "not like an old white annoying cock sucker".
>
>
> yeah, it's pretty difficult for a black woman to look like an old
> white person. how do you know the woman in the photo sucks
> cocks? she might actually be a lesbian. or a nun.
<raised eybrow> a black cock sucking nun....hmmmm can I get video?
<ducking bad bad bad>
fr0glet
> Sunlight wrote:
> > "JSin" <js...@ennie.idiotbudy.com> wrote...
> >>The bootom line to me is no ethnic descriptor should be capitalized
> >>because it really is not germaine to the discusssion. I mean really who
> >>cares about the color of ones hide execept for the bigots.
> >
> >
> > I trust, JSin, that you're not saying that there are no times when skin
> > colour is relevant. This being a body art newsgroup and all :-)
>
> Only in so far as they relate to how ink is going to appear under it.
> >
> > I don't capitalise skin colours; when you get down to basics, they're
just
> > descriptive terms.
>
> My point exactly :-)
And mine :)
fr0glet
Richard Hunter
bus, JSin <js...@ennie.idiotbudy.com> wailed loudly and vomited
the words:
>Richard Hunter wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:47:08 GMT, while driving the porcelain
>> bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
>> words:
>>
>>
>>>"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
>>>news:m4ugjvod3val88405...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 02:17:01 GMT, while driving the porcelain
>>>>bus, Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wailed loudly and vomited the
>>>>words:
>
>>>
>>>Maybe by 'better' he meant "not like an old white annoying cock sucker".
>>
>>
>> yeah, it's pretty difficult for a black woman to look like an old
>> white person. how do you know the woman in the photo sucks
>> cocks? she might actually be a lesbian. or a nun.
>
><raised eybrow> a black cock sucking nun....hmmmm can I get video?
probably. just not on ebay. try: http://www.naughtybids.com.
><ducking bad bad bad>
i hope it's not storming in your area.
Curt
>"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
>> Latina students declare: "ĄYo soy boriqua para siempre!" or a black
>> student says, "I know I'm black and I'm beautiful." I see nothing
>> wrong with that. Pride is not automatically a negative thing.
>
>I didn't mention pride. Are you talking about justifying white pride? I'm
>not.
How do the phrases "ĄYo soy boriqua para siempre!" and "I know I'm
black and I'm beautiful." instigate a query about white pride?
To answer your question: No.
And neither am I.
You did, however mention ethnocentrism which, to me, means literally
to be centered on one's own culture. And to interpret the behavior of
people in other cultures in the light of one's own values, attitudes,
and the rest. If you're centered on your own culture, I would assume
it would be with a measure of pride. Or have I leaped right off the
cliff?
>I'm talking about placing undue priority on a noun
I did not think, based on my previous reading of the word Black
capitalized as in the Black community, Black business people, Black
enterprise, etc., that I was placing any undue priority on the word
black.
>and this being indicative of underlying inequality.
That's all on you. All I said was, "Hey, Black lady, Sister, please.
Don't use that Dermabland ANY LONGER!"
One letter. "B!" AND SHE'S OFF!!! It *is* about the dialogue though.
>I figure you'll appreciate my assistance in correcting your grammar where
>you've failed; regardless of Christyn's suave teachings I am willing to
>serve up what you dish out! :)
Cut me a slice. I've got my fork and plate, Sarah. :/
>> Certainly with all the negative self-concepts floating around, there
>> should be more encouragement toward self acceptance and, yes, pride.
>
>I'm an ego stroker myself. But I think there is a time and a place to
>celebrate self acceptance. In this case, I did not understand why you would
>take a "hot word"
Hot word. Oh *my word*. So... no, I've already read what's to come:
>like black and capitalize it. I'm not even coming close to
>implying that persons of any race, creed, religion, sex, orientation, or
>political party should feel any better or worse about themselves for their
>birthrights or choices.
You're saying that Puerto Ricans cannot feel better about themselves
for their birthright? Visit my school. You will see a much different
and, I would argue, a very positive take on feeling better about
yourself due to your culture and birthright. The same goes for my
African American students, my African students, my Dominican Republic
students, my Cambodian students, my Caucasian students and more.
We created tempera paint flags this past school year and the children
were very eager to choose the flag that represented a country
important to them. Yes, we had our U.S. flags, but we also had the
Jamaican, Canadian, Japanese flags, etc.
We didn't discuss religion or politics, but there were some lectures
on sex and orientation. And it's not about "coming close to implying
that" one person is better because of any of their differences, but
rather encouragement to be aware of and happy with who you are,
accepting of diversity and tolerant of individual differences.
Things don't have to be bland, mild, and uni-everything for there to
be peace on Earth. Give me a HOT word. Just don't be a cold bird. You
turned my thread into a nasty turd. :(
><snip>I AM A SEMANTICAL NAG!
YAY! :/
>> Race is not the concern for many people of color, imo.
>
>Wrong.
Okay, you're right. Not race, but their next meal. Or a job. Perhaps
staying sober or keeping their children safe. And, no, these concerns
are not entirely hinged on race.
>Be a person of color and reevaluate that position. Until you can,
>until you are, your opinion is irretrievably biased by your position
>as a white man.
Often, the only color that matters is green. Money. O.J. is black and
had the right amount of green to, somewhat, buffer his fall. My
students grow up in the projects and I grew up in the white ghetto.
Same drug dealers, same welfare, same poverty, same shootings. My
position as a white man has not offered me many advantages though I
suspect you may disagree. I served in the military for five years
beside people of a variety of races and cultures. Blacks, white,
Filipino, Portugese, Hispanic, and even TEXANS! It was motivation and
effort applied that helped me not throw my life away. It was a
dissatisfaction with my own education and my teachers that made me
complete my teaching certification.
>> rich." It wasn't that the rapper was white. But white *and rich*. The line
>> division was drawn on the dollar sign.
>
>OK, so we're talking about what age of a student? A
>racially/emotionally/politically/educationally immature human being with a
>possible lifetime of racial influence, poverty influence, whathaveyou? Do
>you know the background that student comes from?
>
>IMO your position as a teacher enables you to open a diverse variety of
>closed minds.
And I do that. A child said about teachers, "You're only here for the
money." That may seem rather convenient, but it's true. I was
surprised but stated that I could make money elsewhere, but that I
choose to teach because I know how important it is to stay in school.
To earn your degree. And to pursue a college education.
>Your student in question appears to have a different *ism up
>his<snip>
Her, and I disagree. Again!
>> examples in the quotes (not my own)? I think that this - perhaps I'm
>> stretching here - connects to the fluidity of the English language.
>
>Indeed. In this case I don't agree with the usage or the history thereof.
>
>> Just as gauge and stretching are used by some in a synonymous fashion
>
>Not just as. Totally different linguistic evolution, with far more profound
>implications.
Profound! The Black lady versus the black lady? How profound is that?
>> so is black used by some - if not many - as a pronoun and/or a proper
>> noun regardless of what may appear in the latest grammar book.
>
>A song comes to mind:
>
>I'M BLACK Y'ALL, AND I'M BLACK Y'ALL, I'M BLACKER THAN BLACK AND I'M BLACK
>Y'ALL
>
>Is that what you meant?
::blink::
Have you lost your mind?
>fr0glet
Just how. Did a dinky throwaway post. About Charlie Sheen's tattoos.
Turn into. THIS MONSTER???
And, no. That's not what I meant.
I meant, "Hey this Dermablend stuff really made her look icky!"
Which her?
"That one. The one in the middle."
White lady or...
"No."
Black lady?
"Yeah."
Curt
>> > I don't capitalise skin colours; when you get down to basics, they're
>> > just descriptive terms.
>>
>> My point exactly :-)
>
>And mine :)
There's a contradiction here.
I'm looking at this and reading that skin color is simply a
descriptive term, but at the same time - elsewhere in this thread -
I'm being told that by virtue of my being a white man, my opinion is
irretrievably biased when I say that race is unimportant.
What is race other than a distinction made by individuals based on
what? Their skin color, plus their geographic location, and what
else? Help me out here.
Knock anyone over the head. Amnesia as the intended result. I know
that's tricky, but let's assume there's this magical amnesia pressure
point. Move the amnesiac to a different village, city, country, or
continent and then...
Hm. I don't know. But I do know that there's a contradiction here.
Something about having your cake and eating it too.
And I've still got my plate and my fork!
x
Point seen, but not taken... here's why...
Whitey doesn't run the internet, and David IS a homo.
He just happens to also be biohazardous.
The two are obviously not mutually inclusive.
Except in David's case.
x
> fr0glet <fr0...@fr0glet.hates.spambots.org> wrote:
>
>
> You did, however mention ethnocentrism which, to me, means literally
> to be centered on one's own culture. And to interpret the behavior of
> people in other cultures in the light of one's own values, attitudes,
> and the rest. If you're centered on your own culture, I would assume
> it would be with a measure of pride. Or have I leaped right off the
> cliff?
>
If you want to get LITERAL, you are a teacher, after all... and you're
obviously so
ESS EMM ARR TEE, ethnocentrism means LITERALLY to be centered on one's own
ETHNICITY.
ETHNICITY, mr genii (you gotta be a twin, 'cause no one person can be that
stupid) does not equal CULTURE. Seeing as there is no American Ethnicity,
are you saying (and yes, the argument can be made, I'm sure) that there is
NO american culture? Same goes for Canada.
x
>
> And I've still got my plate and my fork!
>
Then instead of harping on this bullshit, why don't you go fork yourself?
Richard Hunter
bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
>"i'll teach you to turn away." <cr...@got.net> wrote in message
>news:bhbmrl$101807$3...@ID-56799.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
>> x> "Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > We've talked. We've swapped emails, IMs, even snail mail addresses.
>> > Although he's still waiting for his cartoon and I'm still waiting for
>> > my needles.
>> x> Needle swapping with a bio-hazardous homo. Brilliant.
>>
>> psst. don't misinterpret this post as any sort of defense of curt
>> or dave, because it's not, but at least have the decency to call someone a
>> "homo" in a DIFFERENT thread than the one in which you get all burnt about
>> curt's soi-disant offensive whitey-runs-the-internet remark.
>
>
>Point seen, but not taken... here's why...
>
>Whitey doesn't run the internet, and David IS a homo.
>He just happens to also be biohazardous.
>The two are obviously not mutually inclusive.
>Except in David's case.
oh, look. it's a lish sock-puppet.
Richard Hunter
bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
>
>"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:bmnjjvs1n0e9pi7r9...@4ax.com...
>
>>
>> And I've still got my plate and my fork!
>>
>
>Then instead of harping on this bullshit, why don't you go fork yourself?
interesting. you can dish out crappy puns and insults, but can't
be bothered to post your real name or email address.
you're so enigmatic! like anyone would want to get to know you
anyway.
x
"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:48:42 GMT, while driving the porcelain
> bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
> words:
>
> >
> >"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:bmnjjvs1n0e9pi7r9...@4ax.com...
> >
> >>
> >> And I've still got my plate and my fork!
> >>
> >
> >Then instead of harping on this bullshit, why don't you go fork yourself?
>
> interesting. you can dish out crappy puns and insults, but can't
> be bothered to post your real name or email address.
>
> you're so enigmatic! like anyone would want to get to know you
> anyway.
>
"Dish out" ... fork and plate... like that one's any better?
Dude, I could post the songs again, if you'd like. seems your
biohazardousness has affected your memory?
If you saw me, you'd want to "get to know me". Thankfully, I know better
than to ever give you that opportunity.
And in what post that I've ever made has it been indicated that your opinion
matters to me?
Oh that's right, none.
Fuck off.
x
"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:58:21 GMT, while driving the porcelain
> bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
> words:
>
> >"i'll teach you to turn away." <cr...@got.net> wrote in message
> >news:bhbmrl$101807$3...@ID-56799.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
> >> x> "Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > We've talked. We've swapped emails, IMs, even snail mail addresses.
> >> > Although he's still waiting for his cartoon and I'm still waiting for
> >> > my needles.
> >> x> Needle swapping with a bio-hazardous homo. Brilliant.
> >>
> >> psst. don't misinterpret this post as any sort of defense of curt
> >> or dave, because it's not, but at least have the decency to call
someone a
> >> "homo" in a DIFFERENT thread than the one in which you get all burnt
about
> >> curt's soi-disant offensive whitey-runs-the-internet remark.
> >
> >
> >Point seen, but not taken... here's why...
> >
> >Whitey doesn't run the internet, and David IS a homo.
> >He just happens to also be biohazardous.
> >The two are obviously not mutually inclusive.
> >Except in David's case.
>
> oh, look. it's a lish sock-puppet.
>
Not quite.
But wait, are you denying you're a homo? Or did you get your biohazard
tattoo dermablended?
(like how I got that back on topic?)
Curt
>"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
STOP! DON'T ANYONE HELP ME!
Ess, emm, oh, fuck it. Isn't that the name of a rapper???
SEE??? I'M BLACKER THAN YOU, SARAH!!!
>ethnocentrism means LITERALLY to be centered on one's own
>ETHNICITY.
Who ARE you??? All I'm saying is, "Hey, trivia, Charlie Sheen,
tattoos. Didn't know that. Hmm." AND: "Boy, that one lady sure looks
better *without* that Derma stuff."
From: http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/ethnicity
Definition: [n] an ethnic quality or affiliation resulting from
racial or cultural ties; "ethnicity has a strong influence on
community status relations"
So, like, yeah, culture and ethnicity are polar opposites. My bad.
x
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:41:49 GMT, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
> >"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
> >you're obviously so ESS EMM ARR TEE,
>
To recap: You stated "ethnocentrism ... means literally to be centered on
one's own culture"
I corrected you, because in fact ethno-centrism LITERALLY means ethnically
centered.
Maybe it's the word LITERALLY that you are misinterpreting.
lit搪r戢l損y (ltr--l)
adv.
1.. In a literal manner; word for word: translated the Greek passage
literally.
to mean literally "centered on one's own culture", the word would be
Culturocentrism, or some such.
Read my .sig. It was written for people like you. And Dave.
Sunlight
"x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote in message
[Something not very interesting, with 4 gifs attached]
I would thank you to remember that this is a text-based newsgroup and that
binary attachments are not appropriate. If you must show us pics, post
links.
x
news:c8v_a.11686$yl6....@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
The binaries were inadvertantly attached from my cut-and-paste via the
definition of literally.
It was not intentional.
And really, they added a whole, what half a kilobite to the size of the
message.
Somebody call the WHAAAAAAAmbulance.
Sunlight's NGcop complaining aside, I apologize for my inadvertant posting
of miniscule binaries (to everyone but Sunlight, Curt and David).
Sunlight
"x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote in message
> Sunlight's NGcop complaining aside, I apologize for my inadvertant posting
> of miniscule binaries (to everyone but Sunlight, Curt and David).
That's fine. I don't want an apology from you.
x
"Sunlight" <ms.su...@ntlworld.no-way-baby.com.invalid> wrote in message
Oh good. I was worried there for a minute.
fr0glet
> fr0glet <fr0...@fr0glet.hates.spambots.org> wrote:
>
> >"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
> >> Latina students declare: "ĄYo soy boriqua para siempre!" or a black
> >> student says, "I know I'm black and I'm beautiful." I see nothing
> >> wrong with that. Pride is not automatically a negative thing.
> >I didn't mention pride. Are you talking about justifying white pride? I'm
> >not.
> How do the phrases "ĄYo soy boriqua para siempre!" and "I know I'm
> black and I'm beautiful." instigate a query about white pride?
Per your "pride is not automatically a negative thing".
Looks like we've been misreading each other. The only reason I could find
why you would point out the pride issues above was some kind of logical
explanation as to why you would capitalize a color.
> You did, however mention ethnocentrism which, to me, means literally
> to be centered on one's own culture.
In this case, my comment of reading someone typing white with a capital W
says ethnocentrism to me was regarding a hypothetical situation which had
not occurred.
> >I'm talking about placing undue priority on a noun
> >and this being indicative of underlying inequality.
>
> I did not think, based on my previous reading of the word Black
> capitalized as in the Black community, Black business people, Black
> enterprise, etc., that I was placing any undue priority on the word
> black.
Well Curt, I think you WERE placing undue priority on the word and color
black. It is just a color. Next time you could type "African American" if
you'd like, THAT would be due and just priority.
> >like black and capitalize it. I'm not even coming close to
> >implying that persons of any race, creed, religion, sex, orientation, or
> >political party should feel any better or worse about themselves for
their
> >birthrights or choices.
>
> You're saying that Puerto Ricans cannot feel better about themselves
> for their birthright?
Read it again. I stated that I was not even coming close to saying that they
should or shouldn't feel anything. You totally took my comment out of
context. I'm saying don't capitalize the color black.
> Visit my school. You will see a much different and, I would argue,
> a very positive take on feeling better about
> yourself due to your culture and birthright.
I'm rather insulted that you took my comment to mean that I was indeed
implying that people should feel worse about themselves for their
birthrights.
> We didn't discuss religion or politics, but there were some lectures
> on sex and orientation. And it's not about "coming close to implying
> that" one person is better because of any of their differences, but
> rather encouragement to be aware of and happy with who you are,
> accepting of diversity and tolerant of individual differences.
I wholeheartedly agree. I take action to support that very concept
regularly. I'm saying don't capitalize non-pronouns.
> turned my thread into a nasty turd. :(
> ><snip>I AM A SEMANTICAL NAG!
> YAY! :/
Fells good to be nitpicked, eh? I really don't believe in capitalizing
non-pronouns. Really.
> >Be a person of color and reevaluate that position. Until you can,
> >until you are, your opinion is irretrievably biased by your position
> >as a white man.
>
> My position as a white man has not offered me many advantages though I
> suspect you may disagree.
Nope, I don't doubt that you were not the recipient of advantages based on
your white skin. I'm saying you cannot fathom all the implications of having
not white skin, or whether or not the skin color is an issue. You can't.
You're not. You don't know what one day's worth of discrimination does to a
lifetime of self esteem, nor what one flippant racist comment does to a
lifestyle perspective, nor what reading about the plight of one's oppressed
and condemned ancestors feels like for a lifetime of contemplation.
> Just how. Did a dinky throwaway post. About Charlie Sheen's tattoos.
> Turn into. THIS MONSTER???
I took you literally and questioned your grammar. You, per Curt standard,
altered the question slightly, provided URLs, and included an additional
question for me to pursue (even later requesting additional dialogue).
Voila! A monster is born!
fr0glet
The Queen of Cans and Jars
> Sunlight's NGcop complaining aside
yeah, heaven forbid you should follow proper netiquette.
x
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote in message
news:1fzmtcj.5uhr1p1s3k4xeN%dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet...
> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
>
> > Sunlight's NGcop complaining aside
>
> yeah, heaven forbid you should follow proper netiquette.
Listen, assclown, I explained that it was accidental, in that these
pronunciation key files got attached to the post when I pasted the
definition of LITERALLY from the webpage.
I apologized.
That's the end of it.
Curt
>"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote<snip>
>Looks like we've been misreading each other. <snip>
>Well Curt, I think you WERE placing undue priority on the word and color
>black. It is just a color. Next time you could type "African American" if
Well, I capitalized black instead using it as a synonym for African
American. I realize that you don't like that. Oookay. I don't
consider it undue priority and you do. Can we agree to disagree in
this case?
>I'm rather insulted
I did not intend to insult you.
>that you took my comment to mean that I was indeed implying that
>people should feel worse about themselves for their birthrights.
Here we go back to your comment, "Looks like we've been misreading
each other." I apparently misread/misunderstood.
Your comment:
>> >I'm not even coming close to implying that persons of any race,
>> >creed, religion, sex, orientation, or political party should feel
>> >any better or worse about themselves for their birthrights
>> >or choices.
I read that as you saying that a person's culture should have no
impact on their sense of self worth, good or bad. Maybe I'm still not
getting it.
I believe that a person can gain great self confidence and pride
because of their birthright, history, culture, ethnicity. Regardless
of what culture you're talking about.
>> We didn't discuss religion or politics, but there were some lectures
>> on sex and orientation. And it's not about "coming close to implying
>> that" one person is better because of any of their differences, but
>> rather encouragement to be aware of and happy with who you are,
>> accepting of diversity and tolerant of individual differences.
>
>I wholeheartedly agree.
I was sure you would.
>I take action to support that very concept regularly.
I'm not surprised.
>I'm saying don't capitalize non-pronouns.
I get that. THAT I get!
But keep your eye on those pesky lexicographers. Black will be a
pronoun. <g>
>> turned my thread into a nasty turd. :(
>> ><snip>I AM A SEMANTICAL NAG!
>> YAY! :/
>
>Feels good to be nitpicked, eh?
If I have to be "nitpicked" let it be by you, Sarah. I really meant
no insult.
>I really don't believe in capitalizing non-pronouns. Really.
I understand. I will take that into consideration. You *can* imagine
that it's been burned into my memory banks, yes?
>> >Be a person of color and reevaluate that position. Until you can,
>> >until you are, your opinion is irretrievably biased by your position
>> >as a white man.
>>
>> My position as a white man has not offered me many advantages though I
>> suspect you may disagree.
>
>Nope, I don't doubt that you were not the recipient of advantages based on
>your white skin. I'm saying you cannot fathom all the implications of having
>not white skin, or whether or not the skin color is an issue. You can't.
>You're not. You don't know what one day's worth of discrimination does to a
>lifetime of self esteem, nor what one flippant racist comment does to a
>lifestyle perspective, nor what reading about the plight of one's oppressed
>and condemned ancestors feels like for a lifetime of contemplation.
That's quite a chunk. I will tell you that I worked side by side with
black, Filipino, Portugese, and Hispanic sailors. I was berthed in a
section where the majority population was African American, but the
focus was always on officer versus enlisted and not black versus
white. And in school now the phrase is, "It's not about our past.
It's about your future." I may not be black, but I am aware of racism
and the dangers of retrogression.
>> Just how. Did a dinky throwaway post. About Charlie Sheen's tattoos.
>> Turn into. THIS MONSTER???
>
>I took you literally and questioned your grammar. You, per Curt standard,
>altered the question slightly, provided URLs,
Hmm. Now that you mention it, you need to rent Barbershop if you
haven't already. http://www.mgm.com/barbershop/
>and included an additional question for me to pursue (even later
>requesting additional dialogue). Voila! A monster is born!
IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALLLLIIIIIVE!!!
Well, here's to dialogue. I hope that you're not angry with me.
Again, I sincerely did not mean to insult you and didn't believe that
you thought - in any way, shape, or form - that anyone should feel
worse about themselves because of who they are. My question for you
*was* (not *is*) are you saying they can't feel better because of who
they are?
>fr0glet
I promise to be cautious of all non-pronouns and my capitalization of
all words in the future. Are we cool like that?
Heh. I wrote you a book.
Curt
>That's the end of it.
:)
One good laugh deserves another:
"Because a day without sunshine is like... night."
- Steve Martin
--
The Queen of Cans and Jars
> "The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
> > x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
> >
> > > Sunlight's NGcop complaining aside
> >
> > yeah, heaven forbid you should follow proper netiquette.
>
> Listen, assclown, I explained that it was accidental, in that these
> pronunciation key files got attached to the post when I pasted the
> definition of LITERALLY from the webpage.
new to computers? don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.
> I apologized.
>
> That's the end of it.
you apologized, and then you made an asinine comment about having to
apologize. you're a real champ.
Richard Hunter
bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
<Snip>
>> oh, look. it's a lish sock-puppet.
>
>Not quite.
close enough.
>But wait, are you denying you're a homo?
nope.
Richard Hunter
bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
>
>"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
>news:9flkjvolqfsptsahm...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 14:48:42 GMT, while driving the porcelain
>> bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
>> words:
>>
>> >
>> >"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:bmnjjvs1n0e9pi7r9...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >>
>> >> And I've still got my plate and my fork!
>> >>
>> >
>> >Then instead of harping on this bullshit, why don't you go fork yourself?
>>
>> interesting. you can dish out crappy puns and insults, but can't
>> be bothered to post your real name or email address.
>>
>> you're so enigmatic! like anyone would want to get to know you
>> anyway.
>>
>
>"Dish out" ... fork and plate... like that one's any better?
>
>Dude, I could post the songs again, if you'd like. seems your
>biohazardousness has affected your memory?
>
>If you saw me, you'd want to "get to know me". Thankfully, I know better
>than to ever give you that opportunity.
>
>And in what post that I've ever made has it been indicated that your opinion
>matters to me?
>Oh that's right, none.
then why bother responding to anything i say? it's cos you care.
i know it, you know it.
Richard Hunter
bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
>
>"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote in message
>news:1fzmtcj.5uhr1p1s3k4xeN%dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet...
>> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
>>
>> > Sunlight's NGcop complaining aside
>>
>> yeah, heaven forbid you should follow proper netiquette.
>
>Listen, assclown, I explained that it was accidental, in that these
>pronunciation key files got attached to the post when I pasted the
>definition of LITERALLY from the webpage.
>
>I apologized.
>
>That's the end of it.
is your reasoning based on logic?
Richard Hunter
bus, Richard Hunter <returntosender@ddressunknown> wailed loudly
and vomited the words:
>On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:06:58 GMT, while driving the porcelain
>bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
>words:
>
><Snip>
>>> oh, look. it's a lish sock-puppet.
>>
>>Not quite.
>
>close enough.
>
>>But wait, are you denying you're a homo?
>
>nope.
btw, everyone's a homo (sapien, that is).
i'll teach you to turn away.
x> Somebody call the WHAAAAAAAmbulance.
i laughed at that, & then promptly stopped laughing when i started
thinking about george michael & that other guy who was never quite named.
lish "i'm sorry i punched you in the throat.
cr...@got.net get up." -jerkcity
i'll teach you to turn away.
f> I'm saying don't capitalize non-pronouns.
don't let nina hear you say that. them germans LOVE to capitalize
whatever the hell they want.
lish "everybody has a question
cr...@got.net if not an adoring letter." -jc
fr0glet
> fr0glet <fr0...@fr0glet.hates.spambots.org> wrote:
> f> I'm saying don't capitalize non-pronouns.
>
> don't let nina hear you say that. them germans LOVE to capitalize
> whatever the hell they want.
Fortunately, Nina wouldn't write me a 37 page paper on how she loves to
capitalize whatever the hell she wants.
fr0glet
Curt
>"i'll teach you to turn away." <cr...@got.net><snip>
>> them germans LOVE to capitalize whatever the hell they want.
>
Hardy har HAR!
:/
Um, I'd just like to say that, frankly, I resemble that remark.
--
Curt
x
"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:06:58 GMT, while driving the porcelain
> bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
> words:
>
> <Snip>
> >> oh, look. it's a lish sock-puppet.
> >
> >Not quite.
>
> close enough.
If anal fisting privileges are ever going to be offered by me, I assure you
lish likely would be near the top of the list, but I think and speak for
myself, thanks.
> >But wait, are you denying you're a homo?
>
> nope.
Okay, but what about the biohazard tattoo? I like how you simply ignored
that. Jackass.
x
"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
>
> btw, everyone's a homo (sapien, that is).
>
Huh, and it was you who railed against my "crappy puns"?
x
> >That's the end of it.
>
> :)
>
> One good laugh deserves another:
You're right. I should know better.
I actually take responsibility for fucking up, and apologize, and the small
minds can't let it go.
x
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote in message
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> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
>
> > "The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
> > > x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sunlight's NGcop complaining aside
> > >
> > > yeah, heaven forbid you should follow proper netiquette.
> >
> > Listen, assclown, I explained that it was accidental, in that these
> > pronunciation key files got attached to the post when I pasted the
> > definition of LITERALLY from the webpage.
>
> new to computers? don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.
Not quite. I just have a little more to concern myself with than an
inadvertant minor fuckup.
>
> you apologized, and then you made an asinine comment about having to
> apologize.
Okay, Queenie, if you're referring to the "assinine" comment about
Sunlight's NGcopping, I actually made that before I apologized. Since we're
being semantical and all. And that comment wasn't referring to having to
apologize. I am fully capable and willing to take responsibility for making
a mistake.
>you're a real champ.
Thanks.
x
"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
> then why bother responding to anything i say? it's cos you care.
> i know it, you know it.
>
I realize the analogy has been used to death, but it rings so true in this
case.
I respond to you because it's like looking at a car wreck. I just can't help
myself.
Believe me, it has absolutely nothing to do with your opinion of me.
i'll teach you to turn away.
x> "Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
> >> oh, look. it's a lish sock-puppet.
x> lish likely would be near the top of the list, but I think and speak f
x> myself, thanks.
wait. was that a compliment? i seriously cannot tell this time.
lish "it truly breaks my heart
cr...@got.net to see trust like that go unpunished." -st
i'll teach you to turn away.
f> "i'll teach you to turn away." <cr...@got.net> wrote...
> don't let nina hear you say that. them germans LOVE to capitalize
> whatever the hell they want.
f> capitalize whatever the hell she wants.
that's absolutely true. but if she did, it'd be brilliant.
also: nina is never to be discouraged from writing anything. ever.
lish "well, i may be a lot of things
cr...@got.net but i won't be ignored." -mm
x
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> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
> x> "Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
> > >> oh, look. it's a lish sock-puppet.
> x> If anal fisting privileges are ever going to be offered by me, I assur
> x> lish likely would be near the top of the list, but I think and speak f
> x> myself, thanks.
>
> wait. was that a compliment? i seriously cannot tell this time.
>
You can either be honoured or horrified. It's completely up to you.
(I would prefer honoured, but it's not my fist)
Richard Hunter
bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
<snip>
>Okay, but what about the biohazard tattoo?
what about it?
Richard Hunter
bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
words:
>
>"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
>news:iutljvg5mn9l6us37...@4ax.com...
>>
>> btw, everyone's a homo (sapien, that is).
>>
>
>Huh, and it was you who railed against my "crappy puns"?
stating that everyone's a homo is not a pun. it's a fact.
x
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 13:51:37 GMT, while driving the porcelain
> bus, "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wailed loudly and vomited the
> words:
>
> >
> >"Richard Hunter" <returntosender@ddressunknown> wrote in message
> >news:iutljvg5mn9l6us37...@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> btw, everyone's a homo (sapien, that is).
> >>
> >
> >Huh, and it was you who railed against my "crappy puns"?
>
> stating that everyone's a homo is not a pun. it's a fact.
>
I supposed stating that you're a complete moron would be redundant, but it's
also a fact.
Okay, you're a very stupid biohazardous homosexual. Better?
Nina Baltes
Actually, I hate having to capitalize all Nouns in my native Language.
But, see, German Orthography has made "Progress". We now write
"Filosofie" instead of "Philosophie", which should make even a few non-
German Eyes bleed.
All the more Reason to write your Thesis in English so you don't have to
deal with stupid Orthography Reforms :D.
ninA
--
C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
Louis Pasteur
http://www.chaotropic.net
Curt
>"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote <snip>
>> > > yeah, heaven forbid you should follow proper netiquette.
>> >
>> new to computers? don't worry, you'll get the hang of it.
>
>Not quite. I just have a little more to concern myself with than an
>inadvertant minor fuckup.
Is indavertant how the OED lists inadvertent? And how is "My bad."
any less proper than "fuckup"?
>> you apologized, and then you made an asinine comment about having to
>> apologize.
>
>Okay, Queenie, if you're referring to the "assinine" comment <snip>
::somewhere someone snitty sits seriously sighing:: :(
The assclown comment was ridiculous. Had another RABbit pointed out
your gif faux pas you'd have sucked it up and not said a word. Um, my
guess.
And why did you put that string of letters in quotes above? The Queen
of Cans and Jars spelled asinine correctly. Or was it a pun on ass?
I'm a small mind and would enjoy an explanation. Not the Curt
standard, however. Keep it brief.
x
> x <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
> >
> >Not quite. I just have a little more to concern myself with than an
> >inadvertant minor fuckup.
>
Now we're getting into spelling? Okay, I misspelled inadvertent. Oops.
> Is indavertant how the OED lists inadvertent? And how is "My bad."
> any less proper than "fuckup"?
Fuckup is much more proper than my bad. You can be a "fuckup". You cannot
own "bad".
> >> you apologized, and then you made an asinine comment about having to
> >> apologize.
> >
> >Okay, Queenie, if you're referring to the "assinine" comment <snip>
>
> ::somewhere someone snitty sits seriously sighing:: :(
>
> The assclown comment was ridiculous. Had another RABbit pointed out
> your gif faux pas you'd have sucked it up and not said a word. Um, my
> guess.
Your guess would be wrong. Don't think you know me from these few posts. You
have no idea.
>
> And why did you put that string of letters in quotes above? The Queen
> of Cans and Jars spelled asinine correctly. Or was it a pun on ass?
Quotes are generally used when quoting someone. I INADVERTENTLY misspelled
asinine. At least I'm not asking you to change the way you spell it. I used
the quotes because it was the Queen who referred to my comment as asinine. I
disagreed with her assessment, therefore I quoted her description to show
that it was not I who was calling the comment asinine.
> I'm a small mind and would enjoy an explanation. Not the Curt
> standard, however. Keep it brief.
Hope that sufficed. If not, let me know. I'll try to dumb it down a little
further for you.
x
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> fr0glet wrote:
> > "i'll teach you to turn away." <cr...@got.net> wrote...
> > > fr0glet <fr0...@fr0glet.hates.spambots.org> wrote:
> > > f> I'm saying don't capitalize non-pronouns.
> > >
> > > don't let nina hear you say that. them germans LOVE to capitalize
> > > whatever the hell they want.
> >
> > Fortunately, Nina wouldn't write me a 37 page paper on how she loves to
> > capitalize whatever the hell she wants.
>
> Actually, I hate having to capitalize all Nouns in my native Language.
>
> But, see, German Orthography has made "Progress". We now write
> "Filosofie" instead of "Philosophie", which should make even a few non-
> German Eyes bleed.
>
Forgive my 1st year University German. By no means does it entitle me to
think I know... well, anything, really... but wouldn't it be proper to write
it "Vilosovie"? As I was taught the "v" is much more akin to an english "f",
and "w" to an english "v"? ("volkswagen"~"folks vagen")? Or is that simply
stupid first year university german class? (I'm not trying to be a smart
ass... I'm seriously curious as to how much money I actually wasted at
University.)
Curt
>"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote <snip>
>Now we're getting into spelling? Okay, I misspelled inadvertent. Oops.<snip>
Oh. You made a mistake. We all do that, don't we? Enjoy RAB!
Nina Baltes
> Forgive my 1st year University German. By no means does it entitle me to
> think I know... well, anything, really... but wouldn't it be proper to write
> it "Vilosovie"? As I was taught the "v" is much more akin to an english "f",
> and "w" to an english "v"? ("volkswagen"~"folks vagen")? Or is that simply
> stupid first year university german class?
Not entirely ;). "ph" is always an "f" sound (at least, I can't
think of a word where it's a "p" sound off the top of my head).
"v" can be an "f" sound (Vorsicht, Vernunft), or more like the
English "v" (Vokabel, Vulkan).
"Vilosovie" looks even more wrong than Filosofie; at least with the
latter, you don't have to think about how it might be pronounced.
The linguists probably have a more scientific explanation for
choosing f over v ;).
> (I'm not trying to be a smart
> ass... I'm seriously curious as to how much money I actually wasted at
> University.)
Ve hav vays!
Nina
x
> <snip>"x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote:
> >"Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote <snip>
> >Now we're getting into spelling? Okay, I misspelled inadvertent.
Oops.<snip>
>
> Oh. You made a mistake. We all do that, don't we? Enjoy RAB!
>
Yeah. And I admitted it.
I assume the rest of my explanation was sufficient, then? Glad it wasn't
over your head.
Really, I care. About as much as I care about David's opinion of me.
I do enjoy RAB. I have for a while now. Thanks for the "welcome".
Dickhead.
(www.m-w.com doesn't have that one, but you can look it up on
www.dictionary.com, if you don't know what it means.)
x
> x wrote:
>
> > Forgive my 1st year University German. By no means does it entitle me to
> > think I know... well, anything, really... but wouldn't it be proper to
write
> > it "Vilosovie"? As I was taught the "v" is much more akin to an english
"f",
> > and "w" to an english "v"? ("volkswagen"~"folks vagen")? Or is that
simply
> > stupid first year university german class?
>
> Not entirely ;). "ph" is always an "f" sound (at least, I can't
> think of a word where it's a "p" sound off the top of my head).
> "v" can be an "f" sound (Vorsicht, Vernunft), or more like the
> English "v" (Vokabel, Vulkan).
>
Cool, thanks.
> "Vilosovie" looks even more wrong than Filosofie; at least with the
> latter, you don't have to think about how it might be pronounced.
True enough, but it would fit much better with "Hollywood German", my way.
;)
> The linguists probably have a more scientific explanation for
> choosing f over v ;).
Those nutty linguists. What knuckleheads.
> > (I'm not trying to be a smart
> > ass... I'm seriously curious as to how much money I actually wasted at
> > University.)
>
> Ve hav vays!
Coming from you, I don't doubt it.
Curt
><snip>www.m-w.com<snip>www.dictionary.com<snip>
I love online dictionaries. You may not be aware of this one:
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/ (And, yes, x, dickhead appears.)
They also have a cool dream interpretation section:
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dream
Sweet dreams.
--
x
Dude, really, I have no need of sweet dreams.
Thanks anyway.
munkyluvr
> Listen, assclown,
calling Curt a dickhead. David a jackass.
Why do you spew such venom? Your lame attempts to emulate lish are just
that-lame. Asshat. Dickclown. Penistoe. Whatever.
--
Cheers.
Carol
Oh if you're sad, and you're feeling blue, go out and buy a brand-new pair
of shoes.
The Queen of Cans and Jars
> Okay, Queenie, if you're referring to the "assinine" comment about
> Sunlight's NGcopping, I actually made that before I apologized. Since we're
> being semantical and all. And that comment wasn't referring to having to
> apologize.
the comment wasn't necessary at all. you made a mistake and you got
called on it. no one netcopped you. no one's "policing" the newsgroup
(well, maybe lish is but it's hers & she can if she wants to). your
mistake was very politely pointed out to you, and you were an ass in
response. your subsequent apology doesn't ameliorate your assness in
any way.
i'll teach you to turn away.
m> "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote in
> Listen, assclown,
m> calling Curt a dickhead. David a jackass.
m> Why do you spew such venom? Your lame attempts to emulate lish are just
m> that-lame. Asshat. Dickclown. Penistoe. Whatever.
no, no, no. we ENCOURAGE creative name-calling here. granted
"dickhead" & "jackass" can go, but i sort of liked "assclown". it makes me
think strongly of grease paint. (consider that.)
also: anyone who name-calls is not necessarily emulating me. same
goes for anyone who flames, anyone who calls someone else's bullshit, or
anyone who throws razor-edged truth. cylence is of course a LiSheep, but i
don't get that feeling from x.
lish "how sad it is for other people
cr...@got.net that they cannot appreciate our genius." -hc
munkyluvr
"i'll teach you to turn away." <cr...@got.net> wrote in message
news:bhguis$ld3v$1@ID-
> no, no, no. we ENCOURAGE creative name-calling here. granted
> "dickhead" & "jackass" can go, but i sort of liked "assclown". it makes me
> think strongly of grease paint. (consider that.)
Yes. I agree about Cylence. And you're right about the name-calling. I
guess I was pointing out how retarded the names were. Assclown was
creative, but coming out of anyone else's mouth but yours, it just sounds
silly.
razorbuzz
> creative, but coming out of anyone else's mouth but yours, it just sounds
> silly.
Speaking of ass...I think you're kissing a bit much of it with dumbass
comments like that.
-=Greg
--
r...@razorbuzz.net
-=Doubt is not the opposite of faith; it is one element of faith.=-
munkyluvr
wit.
And I don't kiss ass.
Wait. Do I care what you think? Not really. Read some of my other posts.
I'm not all that interesting and a bit of a dork.
I'm rambling cuz I just got back from the emergency room with the 4 year
old. Stepped on a screw. He's going to live. That'll teach him to get out
of bed. :) I think he had more fun at the hospital than at McDonald's.
--
Cheers.
Carol (whose son got stickers too!)
Oh if you're sad, and you're feeling blue, go out and buy a brand-new pair
of shoes.
"razorbuzz" <r...@razorbuzzREMOVE.net> wrote in message
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munkyluvr
OHMYGOD! I TOP-POSTED!
I'M GOING TO BED! OBVIOUSLY I'M TOO OVERWROUGHT TO POST CLEARLY.
Apologies to all.
--
Sniff.
Carol
JSin
>
> Ve hav vays!
Don't tease....
--
JSin
Lost Generation Custom Tattoo
To reply Kill the idiot
Copyleft....
all transmissions may be reprinted without consent
i'll teach you to turn away.
m> And I don't kiss ass.
you most certainly do.
m> I'm rambling cuz I just got back from the emergency room with the 4 year
m> old. Stepped on a screw. He's going to live. That'll teach him to get
hey! that's a real puncture wound. presuming it didn't go all the
way through, i mean.
lish "i'm blind & happy, sir,
cr...@got.net to be tortured in this way." -fa
x
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote in message
news:1fzopx8.vi5jha197hb7kN%dhr...@ohatzhapu.bet...
You call :
"[Something not very interesting, with 4 gifs attached]
I would thank you to remember that this is a text-based newsgroup and that
binary attachments are not appropriate. If you must show us pics, post
links."
Polite?
If the thread isn't very interesting, and she's not "netcopping", why
concern herself with 128 bytes of incidental (and accidental) binary
attachments?
Besides, who said I'm NOT an ass? Who said I care?
Right, the newsgroup is lish's, so, if she wants to spank me... I'd be more
than happy.
Other than that, I can respond to anyone as I see fit, no? Whether you (or
anyone else) think my comments are "necessary" or not is irrelevant.
x
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> "x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote in
>
> > Listen, assclown,
> calling Curt a dickhead. David a jackass.
> Why do you spew such venom? Your lame attempts to emulate lish are just
> that-lame. Asshat. Dickclown. Penistoe. Whatever.
>
I spew venom 'cause I can, I suppose.
I called Curt a dickhead (lame as the name may be) because he is.
I called David a jackass for the same reason. And believe me, I've thought
that for quite a while.
I'm not emulating lish. That would be heresy.
Vaginal bloodclot.
Sunlight
"x" <som...@somewhere.cxm> wrote in message
news:Ys5%a.195017$hOa.1...@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> Right, the newsgroup is lish's, so, if she wants to spank me... I'd be
more
> than happy.
HAH!!!!!
This newsgroup is not lish's any more than it belongs to the Rosicrucians,
the Hong Kong Triads or the Lumber Cartel (tinlc.) No-one owns newsgroups.
lish is just better at arsekicking.
However, if anyone wants to set up a wrestling tournament with ownership of
the newsgroup as the prize, I will be happy to provide a paddling pool full
of jelly and custard. Not that anyone has the right to give away but it
might be fun.
The reason I said that "Something not very interesting" is that I don't
think that quoting from a dictionary is any substitute for reasoned debate.
It was a habit we got cured of fairly quickly in first year philosophy
classes. Anyway, it wasn't relevant to the point I was making, which was to
remind that binary postings are not appropriate for text-based groups, and
in particular this group.
From the charter:
"o No posting of any graphic or binary files. Gifs or jpgs of bodyart
should be posted on alt.binaries.pictures.bodyart, with a short
text-only announcement on rec.arts.bodyart as a pointer. Or, put
your pictures up on a web page and post the URL."
Thank you very much.
Nina Baltes
> This newsgroup is not lish's any more than it belongs to the Rosicrucians,
> the Hong Kong Triads or the Lumber Cartel (tinlc.) No-one owns newsgroups.
Lish owns this one.