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ronnie

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Jun 19, 2004, 8:00:50 PM6/19/04
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I just glimpsed at your site. I see you are an art teacher. I imagine that
this is common knowledge to everyone else. I am always the last to know.

This may possibly sound bizarre and may even border on neurotic... but I
would appreciate your opinion on something completely unrelated to
bodmod.... that is, if you don't mind. Although, the fate of a great tattoo
artist may ultimately depend on this request. Or not. No pressure, k? : )

Ok. So I'm sure you see lots of kid generated art. And I'm sure they're all
just super special in some way. And you probably get your share of
overbearing parents who think their kids are the next Picasso, or Bouguereau
or such. Well, I'm one of those parents... except, damnit, mine really are
artist!!

My twin 8 yr olds have some incredible artistic talent. Intially I thought
my opinion might be one sided but many people have commented on their stuff.
I want to really nurture this talent the best way possible.... but without
pressuring or burning them out.

I would really like your professional opinion on some of their drawings. I
want your complete, impartial, biased opinion... the good, bad and ugly. I
can take.it. But I think you'll be surprised. Maybe you can suggest what
techniques are realistic and important for their level. I am also concerned
about how to screen potential teachers for private lessons so I can avoid
any influence or impairment to their natural talent.

What do ya think? Hmmm? Am I neurotic?
-r-


i'll teach you to turn away.

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Jun 19, 2004, 9:07:40 PM6/19/04
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ronnie <yo...@houston.rr.com> wrote:
r> This may possibly sound bizarre and may even border on neurotic... b
r> would appreciate your opinion on something completely unrelated to
r> bodmod.... that is, if you don't mind. Although, the fate of a great

use email.

lish "when she speaks,
cr...@got.net i'm reminded i am nothing." -jc
40.1% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

Curt

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Jun 19, 2004, 10:44:16 PM6/19/04
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lish <cr...@got.net> wrote:

> use email.

Why?

You didn't.

Or was posting your directive a strategy designed
to educate the masses? If so, bravo! As always,
you're ever so helpful.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/


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intergalactic snitty princess

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Jun 19, 2004, 11:17:24 PM6/19/04
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:44:16 +0000 (UTC), "Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Why?

Given the OP acknowledged it was both off topic and directed
specifically to what she feels are qualifications which are shared by,
to my knowledge, no one else reading RAB it could set a precedent which
lurkers, new posters, or infrequent posters would follow. A private
email to the OP would do nothing to publicly discourage such threads.

2 birds.
1 stone.

~c.
***yank me to reply***

Keith Alexander®

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Jun 19, 2004, 11:10:13 PM6/19/04
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:17:24 -0400, intergalactic snitty princess
<snitty...@exciteME.com> wrote:

> qualifications

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---
k e i t h a l e x a n d e r
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Curt

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Jun 19, 2004, 11:38:49 PM6/19/04
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Christyn <snitty...@exciteME.com> wrote:

> Given the [snip]
>
> 2 birds.
> 1 stone.

Yeah. I said as much, but used fewer words. Why waste
your time? Because you've got a hard on for me.
--

ronnie

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Jun 19, 2004, 11:53:06 PM6/19/04
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"intergalactic snitty princess" <snitty...@exciteME.com> wrote in message
news:jpv9d0lbasf0f5mb0...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:44:16 +0000 (UTC), "Curt" <curt_...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Why?
>
> Given the OP acknowledged it was both off topic

Personally, I think the post was about as on topic as some I've seen
lately.... but the OT was used in consideration of those who might find a
discussion about art too sensitive. And yet, I knew some would still choose
to read it... as if the suspense was too mcuh for them.

>and directed
> specifically to what she feels are qualifications which are shared by,
> to my knowledge, no one else reading RAB

There are lots of qualified artist reading this... and I can't speak for
those lurking. Far be it for a civil discussion about art to erupt here. And
forbid anyone share a comment or experience about artistic training, or how
it reflects in their tattooing skills.

It's not as if the two are so completely unrelated.

> A private
> email to the OP would do nothing to publicly discourage such threads.

Nor would a public announcement apparently. Whatever is this newsgroup
coming to?

Curt

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Jun 20, 2004, 12:00:33 AM6/20/04
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KA® <keith@REMOVE!nootrope.net> wrote:

> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH[snip]

Do you volunteer at any of the schools in your
area, Keith? Because I'm sure the students would
respond to your presence, your personality, your
attitude. Truly. I'm being perfectly sincere.

But steel yourself for their honesty, Droopy Dawg.

"Mr. Alexander, why do you look so sleepy?"

I get asked frequently why my head is so shiny.
"Because I have oily skin, son. Now get back to work."

And, fwiw, I'm certified and thus "qualified" to teach
art in Pennsylvania.

http://www.teaching.state.pa.us/teaching/cwp/view.asp?Q=32539&A=90
| Pennsylvania requires assessments of all candidates in
| basic skills, general knowledge, professional knowledge
| and subject area knowledge before a certificate may be
| issued to an applicant.

Kicked some major PRAXIS ass, to boot.

*toot!*

Whatever. I imagine you would survive - quite possibly thrive -
in public education. Many don't.

Keith Alexander®

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Jun 20, 2004, 1:00:32 AM6/20/04
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:00:33 +0000 (UTC), "Curt"
<curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Do you volunteer at any of the schools in your
>area, Keith? Because I'm sure the students would
>respond to your presence, your personality, your
>attitude. Truly. I'm being perfectly sincere.

*** You are the most insincere person I have
ever witnessed. That's my problem with you, you
phoney fuck.

Volunteer? I teach credit classes at
New School University.

Yeah, you didn't know that. Right.

>"Mr. Alexander, why do you look so sleepy?"

*** In reference to the cirsles under my eyes.
Two things, moron.

1) I'm sicilian and norwegian. Most scandinavians
with southern blood have dark under the eyes.

2) At age 17 I was mugged. I had two operations
on my eyes and one on my nose. I have a fucked
up face. I'll deal.

Enough with you.

Curt

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Jun 20, 2004, 2:16:19 AM6/20/04
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KA® <keith@REMOVE!nootrope.net> wrote:

> I teach credit classes at New School University.
>
> Yeah, you didn't know that. Right.

Hell, I didn't remember reading Ronnie's mods, how
am I supposed to remember the specifics of your
career? Have you posted that info here? Because,
although I have visited your Web sites, I certainly
don't poke around them as much as you apparently
have scoured my GeoCities pages.

> *** In reference to the cirsles under my eyes.
> Two things, moron.
>
> 1) I'm sicilian and norwegian. Most scandinavians
> with southern blood have dark under the eyes.

Cool.

> 2) At age 17 I was mugged.

Uncool.

> I had two operations on my eyes and one on my nose.

Call me a fake fuck all you want, I regret that that
has been your experience. And, yeah, although I suspect
you find my sympathy anathema, that doesn't change the
fact.



> I have a fucked up face.

That's your estimation, Alexander.

> I'll deal.

I'm sure you will.

> Enough with you.

No, it's not enough with me. See, you have, in the past,
found it very easy to hack and hack and hack on a certain,
by your characterization, chinless RABbit. I see in you
someone who can happily dish it out, but can't take it
all that well. So, there's something I don't like about
you. Dhvq ceb dhb, zbgureshpxre.

Phony and a moron, eh? Well, I guess I'll deal, too.

Keith Alexander®

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Jun 20, 2004, 10:05:57 AM6/20/04
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:16:19 +0000 (UTC), "Curt"
<curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>See, you have, in the past,
>found it very easy to hack and hack and hack on a certain,
>by your characterization, chinless RABbit. I see in you
>someone who can happily dish it out, but can't take it
>all that well.

*** Ahahaha. Dick.

I can take it from the best of them. Ask p0ok or lifelike.
Or Philadelphia. Or jam. Or countless faceless potshot
takers that have come and gone over the past 11 years.

You? You're just wordy. No content or subtext.
Just letters on the screen.

As for David, there is someone who seems to have
come out of the fog. With or without a chin.

i'll teach you to turn away.

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Jun 20, 2004, 11:23:31 AM6/20/04
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Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
C> And, fwiw, I'm [snip] "qualified" to teach art

that's awesome. quick, who knows why!?

lish "you never
cr...@got.net make it easy." -sc

i'll teach you to turn away.

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Jun 20, 2004, 11:25:21 AM6/20/04
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Curt <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

C> KA? <keith@REMOVE!nootrope.net> wrote:
>> I had two operations on my eyes and one on my nose.
C> Call me a fake fuck all you want, I regret that that
C> has been your experience.

why do you regret his experience? why is it affective to you at
all, let alone to such a degree that you *regret* it? seems awfully
atlas-y to me, & i'm pretty certain keith wouldn't want you giving
anything close to regret for any part of his life.

lish "i don't tell lies
cr...@got.net & so do you." -gb

i'll teach you to turn away.

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Jun 20, 2004, 11:25:59 AM6/20/04
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Keith AlexanderR <keith@remove!nootrope.net> wrote:
KA> I can take it from the best of them. Ask p0ok or lifelike.

well, i did do a pretty good job of making you scamper off.

but in general, sure, i'd back that statement.

lish "who you don't hurt
cr...@got.net will never know you." -lh

Keith Alexander®

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Jun 20, 2004, 11:32:29 AM6/20/04
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On 20 Jun 2004 15:25:21 GMT, cr...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn
away.) wrote:

> why do you regret his experience? why is it affective to you at
>all, let alone to such a degree that you *regret* it? seems awfully
>atlas-y to me,

*** He's got a complex, allrighty.

And actually, I wouldn't trade that experience
for anything. It was a turning point in my life.

Regret my ass.

Curt James

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Jun 20, 2004, 11:49:23 AM6/20/04
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KA® <keith@REMOVE!nootrope.net> wrote:

> [snip] cr...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.) wrote:
>
> > why do you regret his experience? why is it affective to you at
> >all, let alone to such a degree that you *regret* it? seems awfully
> >atlas-y to me,

Atlas-y, eh?

Anyone can be sympathetic, lish. Even you. Especially you.

> *** He's got a complex, allrighty.
>
> And actually, I wouldn't trade that experience
> for anything. It was a turning point in my life.

Not lish's Atlas, but the Charles version? You got the broken nose
rendition of having sand kicked in your face and then delved into
the martial arts?

Wait! This has what to do with bodyart? I suppose I should ask you
two to take it to email, but I won't. Too many ngs waste time on
flame wars and you, Keith, are one of the napalm neanderthals.

(Yeah, wordy. Sue me.)

But here's something interesting. Share the turning point.

> Regret my ass.

Naah. I'll pass.

Curt James

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Jun 20, 2004, 11:59:41 AM6/20/04
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lish <cr...@got.net> wrote:
> why do you regret his experience? [snip]

Why not? If you see or hear of someone in pain or having suffered
pain, doesn't some emotion surface as a result?

/sorrow caused by something beyond one's power to remedy/

Damn. And I was all rarin' to admit my error easily.

>[snip]i'm pretty certain keith wouldn't want you giving

> anything close to regret for any part of his life.

Okay. Now you're just typing for the sake of typing, lish.
I'm pretty certain, too, but if you enjoy being an echo...

| And, yeah, although I suspect you find my sympathy anathema

--

Curt James

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Jun 20, 2004, 12:07:18 PM6/20/04
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lish <cr...@got.net> wrote:

> well, i did do a pretty good job of making you scamper off.

Hnh. I was curious why he called himself the weakest link.
--

Keith Alexander®

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Jun 20, 2004, 1:13:09 PM6/20/04
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC), "Curt James"
<curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>sand kicked in your face and then delved into the martial arts?

*** Wrong.

The one I do study has zero street applications.

Move on.

Corine Bohan

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Jun 20, 2004, 1:50:20 PM6/20/04
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"Keith Alexander®" <keith@REMOVE!nootrope.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC), "Curt James"
> <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >sand kicked in your face and then delved into the martial arts?
>
KA> *** Wrong.

>
> The one I do study has zero street applications.
>
> Move on.

*I'm still trying to fathom weither Paul Chen provided the items seen in two
recent (seemingly) related movies.

Corine, fascinated
--
Very little is needed to make a happy life.
It is all within yourself, in your way of thinking.
- Marcus Aurelius


Keith Alexander®

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Jun 20, 2004, 2:30:32 PM6/20/04
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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:50:20 +0200, "Corine Bohan"
<smilin...@home.killspam> wrote:

>*I'm still trying to fathom weither Paul Chen provided the items seen in two
>recent (seemingly) related movies.

*** Some. More likely than not.

www.kingfisherwoodworks.com supplied the wood.

Corine Bohan

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Jun 20, 2004, 3:09:33 PM6/20/04
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"Keith Alexander®" <keith@REMOVE!nootrope.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:50:20 +0200, "Corine Bohan"
> <smilin...@home.killspam> wrote:
>
> >*I'm still trying to fathom weither Paul Chen provided the items seen in
two
> >recent (seemingly) related movies.
>
> *** Some. More likely than not.
>
> www.kingfisherwoodworks.com supplied the wood.

*I still have them bookmarked.
I know them for having a great choice of ideograms they may personalise your
weapon with.
To remember one's purpose.

Corine, totally fascinated
--
Nothing can bring you peace but yourself.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson


Curt

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Jun 20, 2004, 5:56:30 PM6/20/04
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KA® <keith@REMOVE!nootrope.net> wrote:
[snip]
> <curt_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >[snip]martial arts[snip]

>
> *** Wrong.
>
> The one I do study has zero street applications.

You mentioned a turning point in your life. I was curious.

> Move on.

Not a bad idea! http://MOVEON.org/front/

Curt

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Jun 21, 2004, 4:14:02 PM6/21/04
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Ronnie <yo...@houston.rr.com> asked:
[snip]

> Whatever is this newsgroup coming to?

It is as it ever was: a resource for all things
bodyart-related (and more), and a gathering place for
those who call themselves RABbit as well as lurker.

Have you joined IAM yet? Plenty of crossover between
rec.arts.bodyart and members of http://iam.bmezine.com/

Enjoy.

And a tip of the hat to fr0glet for encouraging me to
join the fun that is to be had by being an IAMer.

And wrt (and more), thank you to lish for introducing me
to Photobucket.com.
http://img36.photobucket.com/albums/v108/curt_james/

--
Curt
http://iam.bmezine.com/?curt
http://www.curtjames.com/

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