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Brin McLaughlin

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May 16, 1992, 9:15:08 PM5/16/92
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Mike... your attitude is puzzling to me. If Anime Expo is going to be
greater than AnimeCon, then I fail to see why you seem to take frequent
opportunities to tout Anime Expo as being better because of its
non-profit status. Westercon 40 (Oakland 1987) was non-profit, and it
stunk. TimeCon was non-profit and *it* stunk. NoLaCon (New Orleans
Worldcon, 1988) was non-profit and it *REALLY* stunk.
I'm going to repeat the same thing you were told on February 22, at the
meeting. The *only* reason AnimeCon was formed as a for-profit
California corporation was AT THE REQUEST OF GAINAX who controlls 5o% of
the company stock. At one point, John McLaughlin and Toren Smith would
have turned over their shares of stock to you, but one of the main reason
they didn't (and co-incidentally the reason AnimeCon still owes money to
some fans) is because of the arrangements you made concerning the
T-shirt purchase, which exceeded the budget by approximately $6000. I am
not slamming Anime Expo '92. I am not slamming you. I am merely stating
facts. I hope you don't have a problem with that.

BTW, for those of you out there who don't know me, my name is Brin-Marie
McLaughlin. I was involved in AnimeCon'91, and I married its chairman
six weeks after the convention was over. I am the only authorized
representative of the AnimeCon corporation that currently has
Internet/Usenet access. Anything else you have been told about AnimeCon
or its status, its officers, etc., has not been authorized by the
AnimeCon corporation, and is not an official statement from the AnimeCon
corporation. One final thing, Mr. Tatsugawa: These calls are being paid
for out of our household budget.

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Wendell Hong

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May 18, 1992, 6:46:24 PM5/18/92
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I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.

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Albert Wong

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May 18, 1992, 10:47:15 PM5/18/92
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In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
>I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
>than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
>7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.
>

Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^

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Ryan P. Gavigan

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May 19, 1992, 3:33:00 AM5/19/92
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In article <lhtkp-_...@netcom.com> alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
>>I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
>>than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
>>7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.
>>
>
>Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^
>
No Sonoda, no Manabe, no Sadamoto, nuff said.

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Christina Callihan

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May 19, 1992, 11:09:45 AM5/19/92
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Really? I had a lot more fun at AnimeCon meeting other fans than meeting the
GoHs, myself. AND I plan to do the same this year with Anime Expo. As
always, a con is what you make out of it (unless the organizers do a really
bad job, which I don't see happening here. :)

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Albert Wong

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May 19, 1992, 1:18:09 PM5/19/92
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On the positive side of things, Haruhiko Mikimoto is back. And I've
always want to get an Tomino autograph. ^_^

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Mike Tatsugawa

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May 19, 1992, 2:41:51 PM5/19/92
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In article <1992May19....@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> jo...@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:

>uc-...@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Christina Callihan) writes:
>
>>In <1992May19....@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gav...@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
>>
>>>In article <lhtkp-_...@netcom.com> alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>>>>In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
>>>I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
>>>than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
>>>7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.

Remember, last year's con had seven GoH's scheduled. Matsumoto, Okada
and Otomo had to cancel, bringing the total to four. Anno was added at
the last minute bringing the total up to five again.

>>>>Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^

>>>No Sonoda, no Manabe, no Sadamoto, nuff said.

Actually, the companies in Japan have said that Anime Expo will be a
kind of self-fulfilling prophesy. If enough people attend, they will
send over their big guns. This includes certain high profiled GoH's
that could carry the convention by themselves. If nobody shows up,
then there's no interest in the American market for anime and they'll
know.

>>Really? I had a lot more fun at AnimeCon meeting other fans than meeting the
>>GoHs, myself. AND I plan to do the same this year with Anime Expo. As
>>always, a con is what you make out of it (unless the organizers do a really
>>bad job, which I don't see happening here. :)

I didn't even know who Sadamoto and Anno were before the Expo, but it
was nice meeting them, and nice meeting others on the net.

>Gotta agree with Christina here; at AnimeCon I was still pretty new to
>anime so I didn't even know who the GoH's were or what they had done
>(even when I found out I hadn't seen most of it so it didn't make much
>difference). It was meeting other anime fans and OD'ing on anime that
>made the con such a blast for me. This year will be much the same;
>sure, I won't mind meeting the GoHs but it isn't the main reason I'm
>going to the Expo.

Actually, I'm going to make it a point to delegate more and stop
running around like a chicken without a head putting out other
people's fires. I'll probably watch more 16mm's, watch the costume
contest, maybe do a Karaoke and visit some parties. Of course, my
girlfriend may demand differently, but I'll try to get around.

Mike

Noel Gamboa

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May 19, 1992, 7:16:15 PM5/19/92
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wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
>I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
>than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
>7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.

Yeah, although I'm not looking at the numbers themselves but who the GoHs
are. Mikimoto's a crowd-drawer, but I've met him already last year.
Tomino is, of course, the Great Bird of the Gundam Galaxy as well as
the creator of Dunbine, Xabungle, Zambot 3, Raideen, Triton, etc.

But who is this Takanashi dude?! Producer of Macross II, Gunbuster,
Guyver... but what does a producer do? In OAVs, the creative whip is
held by the director. In fact, Takanashi is even listed as producer
for Gundam 0083. But I doubt if he has any input at all on what goes
on in the series. I wish I'm wrong, I *really* wish I'm wrong, but
I don't think this guy has anything to say that will be of interest
to American anime fans.


Noel Gamboa, Operation X (no...@pnet01.cts.com)

Wendell Hong

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May 19, 1992, 5:31:54 PM5/19/92
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alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:

> >I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
> >than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
> >7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.
> >
>
> Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^

Well, when I get replies from the Chairman of AE '92 saying(essentially) I
don't know who Go Nagai is(the father of all piloted giant robots) & I don't
believe he's down of recent notworthy, I can only wonder who else might have
been over looked as a possible GoH...
Monkey Punch has been suggested as a GoH by the AE chair guy and even LESS
has been seen from him in the last 10 years.
:P

Mike Tatsugawa

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May 19, 1992, 10:41:25 PM5/19/92
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In article <VZi2kB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
>alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>
>> In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell
>> >I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
>> >than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
>> >7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.

>> Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^

>Well, when I get replies from the Chairman of AE '92 saying(essentially) I
>don't know who Go Nagai is(the father of all piloted giant robots) & I don't
>believe he's down of recent notworthy, I can only wonder who else might have
>been over looked as a possible GoH...

We try to follow up most requests (within reason). If fans want them,
we try to get in contact with them. So please continue to send in
requests.

Essentially, I said that I didn't know who Go Nagai was. I also don't
recall saying that he wasn't noteworthy. Besides, what I know
and say are not a reflection of an Expo committe policy statement,
especially when it's in a personal letter.

Mike

Albert Wong

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May 19, 1992, 11:59:09 PM5/19/92
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In article <VZi2kB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
>alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>
>> In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell
>> >I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
>> >than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
>> >7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.
>> >
>>
>> Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^
>
>Well, when I get replies from the Chairman of AE '92 saying(essentially) I
>don't know who Go Nagai is(the father of all piloted giant robots) & I don't
>believe he's down of recent notworthy, I can only wonder who else might have
>been over looked as a possible GoH...
>Monkey Punch has been suggested as a GoH by the AE chair guy and even LESS
>has been seen from him in the last 10 years.
> :P

Still, you cannot assume that since you know who Go Nagai is, that
everyone else knows who Go Nagai is. Myself, I haven't been following
his career very much. I wanted to see Kia Asamiya/Mitchitaka Kikuchi,
but he (they?) aren't coming this year either. Still, the SPJA probably
cannot afford to bring over every guest that everyone wants to see. Maybe
next time around.

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Purdue Animation Club

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May 20, 1992, 5:46:59 PM5/20/92
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In article <lhtkp-_...@netcom.com> alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
>> By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vice
>>7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.
>
>Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^
>

Come on! Where's Sonoda then, huh?
Not that I wouldn't give my left nut to meet Mikimoto (sp, gommensai).


Highlander.

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(Geez, I love that!)

Mike Tatsugawa

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May 20, 1992, 7:01:34 PM5/20/92
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In article <49...@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> p...@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Purdue Animation Club) writes:
>In article <lhtkp-_...@netcom.com> alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>>In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
All I have to say is that we're happy with the 5 GoH's that we've
managed to arrange this year and that we're going to put on the best
convention that we can. If you want to complain about your favorite
GoH not coming this year, then that's fine. If you choose not to come
because he's not coming, that's fine too. You have that choice. If
we can get Takahashi, Go Nagai or Miyazaki next year and you heap praise
on us, that's fine too. If you come to Anime Expo to meet friends,
see GoH's, to lock yourself in your room and watch videos, or even for
the water :-P that's fine too. But until people are willing to prove
to the Japanese that America is a legitimate market, the full blown
conventions that everyone wants will not become a reality. Naysayers
can say what they want, but don't ruin things for the people who want
to come or for the 100 people who are spending hundreds of hours on
this project to provide anime for the general public.


Mike

Albert Wong

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May 20, 1992, 8:09:29 PM5/20/92
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In article <49...@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> p...@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Purdue Animation Club) writes:
>
> Come on! Where's Sonoda then, huh?
> Not that I wouldn't give my left nut to meet Mikimoto (sp, gommensai).
>

Kenichi Sonoda went to ChiCon(?) this year, and then went back home to
work on some more Gun Smith cats, I would guess.

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Wendell Hong

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uc-...@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Christina Callihan) writes:

> In <1992May19....@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gav...@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan
>

> >In article <lhtkp-_...@netcom.com> alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) wri

> >>In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendel


> >>>I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
> >>>than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH vi

> >>>7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^
> >>
> >No Sonoda, no Manabe, no Sadamoto, nuff said.
>
> Really? I had a lot more fun at AnimeCon meeting other fans than meeting the
> GoHs, myself. AND I plan to do the same this year with Anime Expo. As
> always, a con is what you make out of it (unless the organizers do a really
> bad job, which I don't see happening here. :)

If I wanted to have fun meeting other fans(that's not to say I won't) I
would be planning to go to A-KON 3 which is a lot more cheaper than Anime
Expo is. Point is, I'll be coming all the way from Hawaii so meeting other
fans is not objective #1 with me and the 10 other people I'm dragging with
me.
^_^

Wendell Hong

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May 20, 1992, 6:31:25 PM5/20/92
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alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:

> In article <VZi2kB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell

> >alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
> >
> >> In article <2RRZkB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wende

> >> >I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be better
> >> >than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4 GoH v

> >> >7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^
> >
> >Well, when I get replies from the Chairman of AE '92 saying(essentially) I
> >don't know who Go Nagai is(the father of all piloted giant robots) & I don't
> >believe he's down of recent notworthy, I can only wonder who else might have
> >been over looked as a possible GoH...
> >Monkey Punch has been suggested as a GoH by the AE chair guy and even LESS
> >has been seen from him in the last 10 years.
> > :P
>
> Still, you cannot assume that since you know who Go Nagai is, that
> everyone else knows who Go Nagai is. Myself, I haven't been following
> his career very much. I wanted to see Kia Asamiya/Mitchitaka Kikuchi,
> but he (they?) aren't coming this year either. Still, the SPJA probably
> cannot afford to bring over every guest that everyone wants to see. Maybe
> next time around.

That's what I asked Mr. Tatsugawa: Would it be possible get Go Nagai as
guest sometime in the future? I got a "nobody's interested in seeing him
answer". Seemed like a pretty snotty answer to me.
I would have even been satified with a generic "maybe" answer.

Robert J Woodhead

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May 21, 1992, 10:47:12 AM5/21/92
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no...@pnet01.cts.com (Noel Gamboa) writes:

>But who is this Takanashi dude?! Producer of Macross II, Gunbuster,
>Guyver... but what does a producer do? In OAVs, the creative whip is
>held by the director.

If you have any interest in learning how the Anime industry really
works, other than the creative side, the producers are the guys who
you want to talk to.

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Christina Callihan

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May 21, 1992, 10:41:48 AM5/21/92
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In <iee4kB...@musubi.pubnet.com> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:

[lotsa Expo GoH stuff deleted]

>If I wanted to have fun meeting other fans(that's not to say I won't) I
>would be planning to go to A-KON 3 which is a lot more cheaper than Anime
>Expo is. Point is, I'll be coming all the way from Hawaii so meeting other
>fans is not objective #1 with me and the 10 other people I'm dragging with
>me.
>^_^

That's understandable, but it does bring up another point: I think we all
know (or can guess) the problems involved in getting guests over here from
Japan at all. Now I don't blame anyone for wanting the same kind of guest
roster that we had at Anime Con, but do let's bear in mind that we were
LUCKY last year. :) I think the SPJA has done pretty well to get the people
they have, considering that they're no longer working with GAINAX's
connections.

Anyway, enough soapboxing from me. Hope you & your 10 friends enjoy the
Expo, Wendell! :^)

Chris Swett

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May 21, 1992, 2:44:44 PM5/21/92
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<Anime Expo non-guest attractions>

After all this talk on Anime Expo guests, I would interject that those of
us who are working in the non-guest-related areas of the convention are taking
the feedback from last year's convention to heart. The video program organizers
have been working overtime to put together a really diverse, exciting and
representative schedule. All of us are battle-worn veterans of last year's
adventure and we believe we have solved virtually every problem suffered last
year. In this respect at least, Anime Expo will far surpass AnimeCon in appeal
and organization.

As you know, we are available for further suggestions and will welcome
your comments on our performance after the convention.

Chris Swett
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I'm going to Minnesota for the summer. Does anyone know of any Anime
shops in the area. Thanks.

Danielle M. Scott

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May 21, 1992, 11:22:05 AM5/21/92
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> In article <bwee>, uc-...@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Christina Callihan)
writes...
> >In article <la> gav...@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
> >>In article <bleah> alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:

> >>>In article <neurrk> wh...@musubi.pubnet.com (Wendell Hong) writes:
> >>>>I agree it has yet to be proven whether or not Anime Expo will be
better
> >>>>than last year's Anime Con. By just looking at the GoH list alone(4
GoH vs.

> >>>>7 from AC91) I'd say maybe not.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Think quality not quantity, of GoHs. ^_^
> >>>
> >>No Sonoda, no Manabe, no Sadamoto, nuff said.
> >
>
> Actually I also go to meet the other people on rec.arts.anime I have
been
> talking with for the last 4 1/2 years. One of the times I really enjoyed
at
> AnimeCon was late Saturday night when me and this other guy (forgot his
> name) drained a big bottle of sake while watching SD Devil Man. Japanese
guests
> are the gravy.
>
> Also...how many of you plan to tour the Winchester Mansion while you are
at
> Anime Expo? I visited there before AnimeCon 91 and I had an excellent
time!
> There is much to do in the San Jose - Bay Area that doesn't have
> anything to do with anime or the convention.
>
> ..of course if you want just Japanese guests and a well run convention
> you could always go to Project Akon 3....
> * yeah ... RIGHT! * :-)
>
>
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I too had fun, but I would LOVE see the GAINAX crew come back! Even
Manabe! He was such a pervert, but he was fun to party with!~
But, I trust Mike is going to give us some surprises when the con started.
Hopefully they will be good surprises, I have fath in you Mike!
Anyways, I am sure there will be allot of parties and anime to watch
and buy. I just hope I have enough to survive!
SIGH!
OH! Anybody else thinking about going to Manchester Mystery House also?
It's pretty awesome, and there are some pretty KILLER movie theaters
next to it also!
HEY!
1 1/2 months til ANIME EXPO!
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In article <1992May21....@hellgate.utah.edu>, jcchi%peruvian...@cs.utah.edu (John Chi) writes...

>I'm going to Minnesota for the summer. Does anyone know of any Anime
>shops in the area. Thanks.
Well, here in the barren wastes, Anime resources are slim.
I live in the Twin-Cities area, and do not know of any signif-
icant stores that sell/rent anime. Down by the University,
(U of M), there is a store that will carry the occasional
Animag or Anime V (sp?). Most of the anime here is in private
hands, purchased thru mail order. Sorry...

Noe Saenz @ ME01051.ux.adu.umn

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Michael Edwards

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May 23, 1992, 12:39:42 AM5/23/92
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Danielle M. Scott writes:

[huge list of fun at the previous con and possiblities at this con deleted]

>1 1/2 months til ANIME EXPO!

Is it possible to get a sub group to discuss this con and any con I can't
get to *sigh* I don't want to spend the next 1 1/2 months reading stuff
that I can't get envolved with (this year) and then the following 1-x months
reading reports *sigh* I'm getting depressed!!!

Michael
[huge :-) every where in this article except the fact I can't get to the con
hey Michael S (you may not have noticed but there at least three Michael's
in Australia along who post on r.a.a) when can we organise something like
this :-) ]
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>>>>> On 23 May 92 04:39:42 GMT, mich...@nagisa.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards) said:

>1 1/2 months til ANIME EXPO!

michaele> Is it possible to get a sub group to discuss this con and any con
michaele> I can't get to *sigh* I don't want to spend the next 1 1/2 months

Try rec.arts.sf.fandom

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May 22, 1992, 6:27:16 PM5/22/92
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In article <michae...@nagisa.nsg.com.au> mich...@nagisa.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards) writes:
>Danielle M. Scott writes:

>I don't want to spend the next 1 1/2 months reading stuff
>that I can't get envolved with (this year) and then the following 1-x months
>reading reports *sigh* I'm getting depressed!!!

Well, you lucky dogs get SwanCon where you guys OD on your anime. ;-)
Mike S was raving about that for a little while.

Mike

Lea Hernandez

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May 22, 1992, 9:03:01 AM5/22/92
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Mike, I don't know who I'm supposed to ask, so forgive me if you're the
wrong
person: I haven't recieved an invitation to guest at AnimeExpo, although
I've
been asked a number of times if I will be coming. The answer is: I'll come
if
I'm invited. So, if someone will send me the necessary paperwork, I'll be
there. You guys have my address. <If you don't, e-mail me.>

There are plans to have a GEnie Japanimation and Manga Online <JaMO> party
at AnimeCon...the purpose of which is to shamelessly promote JaMO, of
which I am one of two SysOps.

Also, for the entire summer, there is an exhibit at the Cartoon Art Museum
of
San Francisco of ORIGINAL MANGA AND ANIME ART!! Since I know lots of folks
will be trundling up to the city for sightseeing and JapanTown during the
con,
by all means take the time to visit what promises to be an exciting
exhibit.
The Museum is located at 665 Third Street in San Francisco. <Third Street
and
Townsend> Their telephone number is (415) 546-3922. The exhibit will
include
art from translations published by Studio Proteus and Viz, as well as art
from
comics not published in this country. There will also be art from artists
in
-this- country who were influenced by manga <and/or anime>: Frank Miller,
Matt
Wagner, Adam Warren, Wendy Pini, and myself. <The Wendy Pini art is a
must-see
for Elfquest fans, since it depict a NEW character, Jink, who will not
actually appear in Elfquest until next year.>

The tailgate party for the Fourth of July is an excellent idea.

I can be reached at MORNINGGLORY on GEnie.

* Origin: Anime Lane 818-762-3695 (1:102/833.0)

Mike Tatsugawa

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>Also, for the entire summer, there is an exhibit at the Cartoon Art Museum of
>San Francisco of ORIGINAL MANGA AND ANIME ART!! Since I know lots of folks
>will be trundling up to the city for sightseeing and JapanTown during the con,
>by all means take the time to visit what promises to be an exciting exhibit.
>The Museum is located at 665 Third Street in San Francisco. <Third Street and
>Townsend> Their telephone number is (415) 546-3922. The exhibit will include
>art from translations published by Studio Proteus and Viz, as well as art from
>comics not published in this country. There will also be art from artists in
>-this- country who were influenced by manga <and/or anime>: Frank Miller, Matt
>Wagner, Adam Warren, Wendy Pini, and myself. <The Wendy Pini art is a must-see
> for Elfquest fans, since it depict a NEW character, Jink, who will not
> actually appear in Elfquest until next year.>

I highly recommend this as well. The Comic Exhibit combined with the
Expo will provide an excellent counterpoint against the images of
Japanese popular culture portrayed by many in the media. I haven't
seen anything about SP being involved, but I do know that original
work by Otomo and Tezuka will be there. From my understanding of the
exhibition, works by anyone who is anyone in the manga world will be
displayed at the museum. We're also trying to arrange for
GoH's to travel to both events and to try to broaden the coverage of
both events through the media. For one weekend, I think that the Bay
Area will have the greatest exhibition of Japanese anime and manga
that the world has ever seen, and probably will ever see for some
years to come.


Mike

Fred Leggett

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In article <39...@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> 7514P%NAVPGS...@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Chris Swett) writes:
><Anime Expo non-guest attractions>
>
> After all this talk on Anime Expo guests, I would interject that those of
>us who are working in the non-guest-related areas of the convention are taking

[deleted for brevity]

>
> As you know, we are available for further suggestions and will welcome
>your comments on our performance after the convention.
>
> Chris Swett
> AXTV Supervisor, AE '92
>

I'm curious - will the video programming this year veer greatly from
the one done for AnimeCon? I realize you can't go into detail on this,
so a simple yes, no, or so-so will suffice. Thanks in advance, and
until then...

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May 23, 1992, 1:37:18 PM5/23/92
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In article <1992May23....@vicstoy.UUCP> fleg...@vicstoy.UUCP (Fred Leggett) writes:

> I'm curious - will the video programming this year veer greatly from
>the one done for AnimeCon? I realize you can't go into detail on this,
>so a simple yes, no, or so-so will suffice. Thanks in advance, and
>until then...

Depends on what you mean by 'veer greatly from the one done for
Animecon'. The hotel will still let you hook the vcr and such.
There'll be the video rooms. Please elaborate.

RALPH JENKINS

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May 23, 1992, 4:47:22 PM5/23/92
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Hm. I never realized that Matt Wagner was inspired my anime, though
it is a little apparent from those early B&W Grendel chapters.

Oh, and why did you quit coloring Silent Mobius for Viz?

Thanks,
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I visited my local comic shop earlier today, and they had both
AnimEigo's Vampire Princess Miyu Vol. 1 (videotape) and U.S. Manga
Corps.' Dog Soldier.

I've seen VPM and have a pretty good idea what it is, but I've never
heard anything about Dog Soldier. It appears to be an
action-adventure yarn ala Rambo. Am I correct? Is it any good?
Also, USMC needs to think about lowering their prices! Criiipes! $40
for a 45-min. OAV?

Michael Edwards

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May 23, 1992, 11:06:38 PM5/23/92
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In article <vjsg4...@agate.berkeley.edu> mt...@ocf.berkeley.edu
(Mike Tatsugawa) writes:
>>I don't want to spend the next 1 1/2 months reading stuff
>>that I can't get envolved with (this year) and then the following 1-x months
>>reading reports *sigh* I'm getting depressed!!!
>
> Well, you lucky dogs get SwanCon where you guys OD on your anime. ;-)
> Mike S was raving about that for a little while.

Sadly SwanCon is in Perth and that's *three* *day's* driving from the east
coast and that's if you have three driver's and don't stop... It's the
same distance as driving to LA from the east coast... except there's only
one city and about sixteen town's to go thru..

I've done a Perth trip non-stop once and never again...

YAM-E (Yet Another Michael)

Ryan P. Gavigan

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May 24, 1992, 1:44:01 AM5/24/92
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In article <12...@tnc.UUCP> m0...@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS) writes:
>
>I visited my local comic shop earlier today, and they had both
>AnimEigo's Vampire Princess Miyu Vol. 1 (videotape) and U.S. Manga
>Corps.' Dog Soldier.
>
>I've seen VPM and have a pretty good idea what it is, but I've never
>heard anything about Dog Soldier. It appears to be an
>action-adventure yarn ala Rambo. Am I correct? Is it any good?
>Also, USMC needs to think about lowering their prices! Criiipes! $40
>for a 45-min. OAV?

>
Its Suggested Retail Price is $34.95!!!

ANyway, it's a very average OVA, some interesting points, but in general
just a Rambo rip-off, they even stole the exact same "Knife in sheath, Grenade
Belt across the chest, Pull red head band taut" scene.

At least our comic shop owner sets very good prices (VPM-$32,BGC-$29,Streamline
MOvies-$22,Streamline "episodes"-$12),

Ryan Gavigan
gav...@gn.ecn.purdue.edu

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RALPH JENKINS

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May 24, 1992, 11:26:12 AM5/24/92
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Thanks. I think my comic shop had the pricing mixed up; Dog Soldier
was priced at $39.95 and Vampire Princess Miyu at $34.95. Anyway, the
shop was having a pretty good sale so I got Dog Soldier at $30 or so.

What did I think of it? Well, it *was* a blatant Rambo knockoff, but
it could have been worse. It seemed like they tried to cram 80 mins.
into 45, IMHO. The plot was very uninspired, *but* I felt that some
of the scenes were pretty well animated.

Chris Swett

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May 25, 1992, 1:54:33 AM5/25/92
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<AnimeExpo video program>

The Anime Expo video program is much better balanced than the one we ran
last year during AnimeCon. We have a lot better sources for the very latest
releases and we aren't relying on anyone who might leave us high and dry at the
last minute like last year. In short, you will see a *vast* improvement.

One of the biggest complaints last year was that the video crew were unable
to get the video online on schedule. There were several reasons for that but
they all boiled down to insufficient preparation prior to the convention. This
year we have everything for tracks 1 and 2 on SVHS, pre-timed and double
checked. Track 1 is done except for one movie and one set of tv episodes. Track
2 is done except for 14 hours we're still filling with new stuff as it comes
out. The timing tolerance I have been using is 1 minute early to 2.5 mins
late. Hopefully that will satisfy everyone and noone will miss his/her
favorite(s) (unless he/she is standing in line for an autograph, of course).

Obviously I can't cough up a schedule for you because I am making changes
in response to Albert's requirements. I'd hate to tell you something was going
to be shown, have you come all the way out here, then not show it due to a
late schedule change. The AXTV program is just something we do to show fans
some variety they might not otherwise see, anyway. Albert and I are keeping
Mike updated and he'll release a schedule when he feels it appropriate.

I think you can rest assured that AnimEigo and the other subtitle/dubbing
companies will show their latest in the video rooms. They are fully capable of
announcing their premiers, though. :)

--- Chris

Fred Leggett

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May 25, 1992, 3:20:45 AM5/25/92
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In article <l8yk6f-...@netcom.com> alb...@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>In article <1992May23....@vicstoy.UUCP> fleg...@vicstoy.UUCP (Fred Leggett) writes:
>
>> I'm curious - will the video programming this year veer greatly from
>>the one done for AnimeCon? I realize you can't go into detail on this,
>>so a simple yes, no, or so-so will suffice. Thanks in advance, and
>>until then...
>
>Depends on what you mean by 'veer greatly from the one done for
>Animecon'. The hotel will still let you hook the vcr and such.
>There'll be the video rooms. Please elaborate.
No no, I meant the individual programs chosen for cableplay. Will
they be different than the selection offered for Animecon, about the
same, or somewhere in the middle (a mixture of old and new material)?

Albert Wong

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In article <1992May25.0...@vicstoy.UUCP> fleg...@vicstoy.UUCP (Fred Leggett) writes:

> No no, I meant the individual programs chosen for cableplay. Will
>they be different than the selection offered for Animecon, about the
>same, or somewhere in the middle (a mixture of old and new material)?
>

From what I saw of the schedule, yes, there'll be more even mixture of
old and new stuff. There are some titles that wasn't familiar with
like Kashern(?). Must've been before my time. :(

Chris Swett

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<AXTV mixture>

The schedule has both old and new material and is quite a mix. We have some
leeway in that we have some late night airtime on the third track info channel
in case anyone wants to call up requests. We should be able to cover *anything*
Takahashi through about 25 June as well as a lot of other stuff.

--- Chris

Chris Swett

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<Cashern>

Cashern is an early 70's classic suited to its late night (2am?) timeslot.


--- Chris

Fred Leggett

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In article <39...@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> 7514P%NAVPGS...@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Chris Swett) writes:
><AXTV mixture>
>
> The schedule has both old and new material and is quite a mix. We have some
>leeway in that we have some late night airtime on the third track info channel
>in case anyone wants to call up requests. We should be able to cover *anything*
What sort of limits are you placing upon requests?

Fred Leggett

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May 26, 1992, 1:33:36 AM5/26/92
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In article <39...@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> 7514P%NAVPGS...@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Chris Swett) writes:
><AnimeExpo video program>
>
> The Anime Expo video program is much better balanced than the one we ran
>last year during AnimeCon. We have a lot better sources for the very latest
>releases and we aren't relying on anyone who might leave us high and dry at the
>last minute like last year. In short, you will see a *vast* improvement.
Excellent. I was not able to attend Animecon, but did hear some
disgruntled remarks from those who did concerning the haphazard
execution of the video programming. Good luck in this year's foray.

> Obviously I can't cough up a schedule for you because I am making changes
>in response to Albert's requirements. I'd hate to tell you something was going
>to be shown, have you come all the way out here, then not show it due to a
>late schedule change. The AXTV program is just something we do to show fans
>some variety they might not otherwise see, anyway. Albert and I are keeping
>Mike updated and he'll release a schedule when he feels it appropriate.

Does the above imply that Mike Tatsugawa might publically release a
video schedule *before* the start date of Anime Expo? That would be a
welcomed surprise. I think he could surrender such information without
a lot of backlash if no drastic changes were made during the
programming.
Of course, if someone wants to mail me a preliminary schedule, then
that'd be wonderful too. <wink wink, nudge nudge, g>
Thanks for responding.

Chris Swett

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May 26, 1992, 4:46:01 PM5/26/92
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<good luck in this year's foray...>

Thanks. It's just one of those proper prior preparation things, IMHO.

<Mike releasing a schedule>

I don't know if he will or not. He reads these messages so perhaps
he can be influenced. If he gives me the word, I could post track 1. I don't
know what his current plans are.

--- Chris

Chris Swett

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<What sort of limits are you placing on requests?>

I'm not sure yet. Last year we had write-in ballots for requests,
which we sorted and played in order of popularity. This year the third
channel will run programming info via a desktop computer with an 8mm PCM
digital background music tape. It has been suggested and confirmed that this
channel will be available after about 10pm for some late night request blocks.
We have the 8mm and my CLD 3070 as spare machines for that line so we can
easily run some requests.

The obvious restrictions are going to be that the video has to be
something in the collections that we have with us at the Con and in a format
we can put on track 3 (ie. we may not have another SVHS for that track). You
have to make a reasonable request, ie. you can't ask us to play the UY disc
set end to end (though any single episodes would be ok). The more reasonable
the request, the more likely it is to be complied with. We won't put subtitled
material on AXTV. We may be reluctant to put something on track 3 that we
have scheduled on tracks 1 and 2 (unless the video crew on 'late night' wants
to see it too).

Any of the above can and may be overruled by Mike, Ken or Albert.

Chris Swett
AXTV Supervisor

Michael Studte

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In article <michae...@nagisa.nsg.com.au> mich...@nagisa.nsg.com.au writes:
>
> Is it possible to get a sub group to discuss this con and any con I can't
> get to *sigh* I don't want to spend the next 1 1/2 months reading stuff
> that I can't get envolved with (this year) and then the following 1-x months
> reading reports *sigh* I'm getting depressed!!!

Hey, I'm gonna miss it too, but I hope the reports will be bloody good.
:) I don't want to "miss it" completely.

> Michael
> [huge :-) every where in this article except the fact I can't get to the con

That's life...

> hey Michael S (you may not have noticed but there at least three Michael's
> in Australia along who post on r.a.a) when can we organise something like
> this :-) ]

hahaha... Well, Cal-A Zeta is going the right way... You guys in New
South Wales need to get your act together. :)

The amazing thing is that all us three Mike's are heavily into
promoting anime down here too... Then there's Mike Tatsugawa who does
plenty good at the US end too... And Mike Morimoto, and... and... too
many to name. We've got the right name baby, uh-uh!

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