Voltron and Tranzor-Z being old american style anime?
Ricardo M Meleschi
recent, Voltron?
I just thought about this, but there are some amazing resemblances to
Japanese Anime in these two cartoons. I don't remember much about Transor-Z
but Voltron was basically giant robot vs. monsters. Hey, the giant robot
even came apart into 5 lions. :)
Any comments?
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>From: ab...@rgfn.epcc.edu (Ricardo M Meleschi)
>Subject: Voltron and Tranzor-Z being old american style anime?
>Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:02:05 GMT
>Any comments?
Yes, those resemblances are amazing, aren't they?
Part of the reason for this incredible coincidence of artistic styles is the
fact that both of these fine television shows were, in fact, actual bonafide
ANIME! Tranzor Z was the English dubbed version of Mazinger Z, an old Go
Nagai cartoon. I can't remember what Voltron was originally, but I'm
sure someone else will point that out.
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>Have fun!
I most certainly did.
Udai Haraguchi
means "five lions." I bet I can still sing the op song to it in Japanese.
^_^ I might be wrong, but the other Voltron was from "God Mars" (another
anime) I don't know of "Tranzor Z" though.
Udai
John T. Carr III
Tranzor Z = Mazinger Z
Voltron = Golion + Dairugger 15
and FYI, Mazinger Z started the "monster of the week" phenomenon...
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Ricardo M Meleschi <ab...@rgfn.epcc.edu> wrote:
>does anyone remember the old cartoon Tranzor-Z, and something a little more
>recent, Voltron?
Both shows are chopped-up copies of anime shows.
Voltron is made up from Dairugger XV (the 15-vehicle Voltron) and
Go Lion (the 5-lion Voltron)
Tranzor-Z is made up from Go Nagai's Mazinger Z.
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Matthew Alt
>From: ab...@rgfn.epcc.edu (Ricardo M Meleschi)
>Subject: Voltron and Tranzor-Z being old american style anime?
>Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 15:02:05 GMT
>does anyone remember the old cartoon Tranzor-Z, and something a little more
>Any comments?
Go figure! Maybe it's because they WERE originally Japanese shows chopped up
for the american market........
-Matt
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>From: ab...@rgfn.epcc.edu (Ricardo M Meleschi)
>does anyone remember the old cartoon Tranzor-Z, and something a little more
>Any comments?
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Hi,
I'm a newbie poster, so I probably don't know enuf. But as I
recall, Tranzor Z was an english-translation of a japanese series made
originally byTOEMI (Toshiba EMI). It sorta shows, since the dialogue
was kind of roughly done, for Tranzor Z.
Sanjai
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Tranzor Z = Mazinger Z/Great Mazinger - masterpiece of Nagai Go
-Nenechan
Lou Arruda
> Voltron is an anime. It was called "GO RA I O N" which litteraly
>means "five lions." I bet I can still sing the op song to it in Japanese.
>^_^ I might be wrong, but the other Voltron was from "God Mars" (another
>anime) I don't know of "Tranzor Z" though.
Tranzor Z was originally Mazinger [sp?] Z.
Lou Arruda
>Yes, those resemblances are amazing, aren't they?
>Part of the reason for this incredible coincidence of artistic styles is the
>fact that both of these fine television shows were, in fact, actual bonafide
>ANIME! Tranzor Z was the English dubbed version of Mazinger Z, an old Go
>Nagai cartoon. I can't remember what Voltron was originally, but I'm
>sure someone else will point that out.
Voltron was Golion [sp?].
Arun Ram-Mohan
: In article <1994Dec9.1...@rgfn.epcc.edu>,
: Ricardo M Meleschi <ab...@rgfn.epcc.edu> wrote:
: >does anyone remember the old cartoon Tranzor-Z, and something a little more
: >recent, Voltron?
: Both shows are chopped-up copies of anime shows.
: Voltron is made up from Dairugger XV (the 15-vehicle Voltron) and
: Go Lion (the 5-lion Voltron)
: Tranzor-Z is made up from Go Nagai's Mazinger Z.
: --
Really? Ah, the pieces fall together (*click*). I remember seeing a
picture of this GoLion thing, and remarking, "Boy, that reminds me of
'Voltron'." But how does this explain the episode(s) in which the two
different robots called Voltron "team up," their respective bad guys
team up, and they all go at it with the "RoBeasts(tm)" ...?
Karl Nikolai Zaryski
Arun Ram-Mohan <man...@wpi.edu> wrote:
>Enrique Conty (co...@MCS.COM) wrote:
>
>: Voltron is made up from Dairugger XV (the 15-vehicle Voltron) and
>: Go Lion (the 5-lion Voltron)
>
>picture of this GoLion thing, and remarking, "Boy, that reminds me of
> 'Voltron'." But how does this explain the episode(s) in which the two
>different robots called Voltron "team up," their respective bad guys
>team up, and they all go at it with the "RoBeasts(tm)" ...?
Hmmm, another memory from the past resurfaces.
I seem to recall one episode where a bunch of generals where sitting at a
conference table, discussing a replacement for Voltron. They watched a tape
on the video screen which showed the replacement in action, where it was
obviously not doing too well; I think it was fighting a robeast and losing, it
may even have been blown up. The replacement Voltron was navy blue, and was
pretty ugly looking.
I'm also pretty sure that I saw in a toy store a set of Voltron toys, about
five inches high. The vehicle Voltron was called Voltron I, the lion Voltron
was called Voltron III, and there was also a navy-blue Voltron II, which may
have been the one I just mentioned.
On the other hand, I would be surprised if they made a toy out of a robot that
only appeared for ten seconds of animation.
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Keith Rhee
>Really? Ah, the pieces fall together (*click*). I remember seeing a
>picture of this GoLion thing, and remarking, "Boy, that reminds me of
> 'Voltron'." But how does this explain the episode(s) in which the two
>different robots called Voltron "team up," their respective bad guys
>team up, and they all go at it with the "RoBeasts(tm)" ...?
It's called, slash-hack'n-Macek'er the plot and animation. Not
that Macek himself did it, but this standard practice to "domesticize"
anime is pretty prevalent in the US should the show hit broadcast TV.
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Lou Arruda
>man...@wpi.edu (Arun Ram-Mohan) writes:
>>Really? Ah, the pieces fall together (*click*). I remember seeing a
>>picture of this GoLion thing, and remarking, "Boy, that reminds me of
>> 'Voltron'." But how does this explain the episode(s) in which the two
>>different robots called Voltron "team up," their respective bad guys
>>team up, and they all go at it with the "RoBeasts(tm)" ...?
> It's called, slash-hack'n-Macek'er the plot and animation. Not
> that Macek himself did it, but this standard practice to "domesticize"
> anime is pretty prevalent in the US should the show hit broadcast TV.
Actually, I think that the people who brought "Voltron" to the u.s. may have
actually gotten in touch with the original studios to do that one. It isn't
cutting back and forth between the two robots like it could have been. There
were actually many scenes of the robots standing side-by-side, as well as the
characters, with movement as if it was originally done that way.
brendan odonnell
: Udai
Tranzor Z was a version of Mazanger Z, By Go Nagai. It was
the show that defined the early giant robot genra. I heard the
translation was based on an italian translation, but I don't have any
hard data on that.
banana
If I remember correctly, Golion and Dairugger XV: one was a spinoff or
sequel to the other. (not too much hack and / but plenty of Maceky
re-writing.)
B.D.
John T. Carr III
> : Really? Ah, the pieces fall together (*click*). I remember seeing a
> : picture of this GoLion thing, and remarking, "Boy, that reminds me of
> : 'Voltron'." But how does this explain the episode(s) in which the two
> : different robots called Voltron "team up," their respective bad guys
> : team up, and they all go at it with the "RoBeasts(tm)" ...?
>
> If I remember correctly, Golion and Dairugger XV: one was a spinoff or
> sequel to the other. (not too much hack and / but plenty of Maceky
> re-writing.)
Actually, tGolion and Dairugger are totally seperate series, independant
of each other. The Voltron special where the two teams team-up was done
especially for the American audiences by Korean animators (lucky us).
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Mme. cybernetica
>of each other. The Voltron special where the two teams team-up was done
>especially for the American audiences by Korean animators (lucky us).
when I was six years old) and so if it was done just for us, the that says
something about japanes Anime in general. Sometimes I think we all get a little
picky about details and don't concentrate on what's really important...
that we just love the damn thing to death!
DONY572300
compare animation wise with the great anime of today but the cartoon was
just great, tranzor-z had their tity bombs and voltron had the cars and
lions. i believe that power rangers is a direct spin-off of voltron. which
pisses me off cause power rangers suck dick hard, the special efx suck i
could do an episode in my backyard.
Mme. cybernetica
>lions. i believe that power rangers is a direct spin-off of voltron. which
>pisses me off cause power rangers suck dick hard, the special efx suck i
>could do an episode in my backyard.
The show was based on a Japanese kiddie show that was popular, ( and
probably had more taste than this ckshuoh! (S***))
Glenn Wang
Yeah, they're based on much older Japanese shows (try eight or nine years...
wait, probably over ten years... I was still in Taiwan about nine years ago,
and remember the Taiwanese networks made their own Power Ranger type TV
shows... DREADFUL)... I can't believe that, after about a decade, they can't
even make the special effects better; a lot of the special effects seem much
worse than the Japanese original (but then again, what do I know? I hate the
show so much, I don't watch it [with the exception of seeing it on the
commercials])...
The Power Rangers are just another way for the producers to make some quick
bucks off the poor kids who aren't able to tell good fx from bad fx and good
acting from bad acting... It'll die out, just like the Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles... Have you noticed that there aren't any kids out there now wanting
to be Michealangelo, Raphel, etc.? In a few years, those kids who are now
crazy about the Power Rangers will look back and say to themselves, "What was I
thinking?"
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brendan odonnell
Have you seen Sentai #5 by antarctic? One article traces back
many of the aspects of modern sentai shows to SPIDER MAN. Aparently
Marvel gave bandai carte blanch to do whatever they wanted with their
characters sometime in the 70's so they made a spider man show, and
included a giant robot who's only real purpose was to give spiderman a
"finishing move" The effects were third rate, and 100% recycled after
the tenth episode, but the robot toy sold well. The giant robots have
been part of every successive sentai show.