Wonderfest pictures of anime models
Mark Kuettner
>Anyone expecting models of mighty mecha at WonderFest, the model
>building convention in Louisville, might have been disappointed. All
>of the anime models I could find at WonderFest were of cute anime
>females. :)
>
&*$%@#!!!!!!!! Whatever!!! There must be a lot of lonely modellers
out there who can't get dates, so they stay home and play with their
1/6 anime girls!!!!*jk*
You practically have to go to Japan now to see mecha kits on display
now...what is the deal?????
Mark Kai
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Prabal Nandy
In article <199805111949...@hotmail.com>,
>>Anyone expecting models of mighty mecha at WonderFest, the model
>>building convention in Louisville, might have been disappointed. All
>now...what is the deal?????
I don't know... it looks like US anime model-makers are all a bunch of
lonely freaks or something, it's damn hard to find an anime fan balanced
enough these days to really appreciate the fine angles and curves of a
kickass mecha kit! Nooo, instead they play with their "Oooh aah my
Goddess" kits and other such stuff. Nope... Mecha modelling is much more
popular in Japan, where they appreciate science and engineering alot more
than in the US. Perhaps we'd build better cars if more of us built mecha
models!
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rfranklin
The less an anime kit looks like a human being, the better I like it.
(Just got hold of 4 Macross "Pod" kits!) . Up with Mechs! Down with
disproportioned mutant Barbies!
When I take my medication, i'll be all right.........
Really......
Dominique Durocher
In article <199805111949...@hotmail.com>,
anime-...@solaris.cc.vt.edu wrote:
> >Anyone expecting models of mighty mecha at WonderFest, the model
> >building convention in Louisville, might have been disappointed. All
> >of the anime models I could find at WonderFest were of cute anime
> >females. :)
> >
>
> &*$%@#!!!!!!!! Whatever!!! There must be a lot of lonely modellers
> out there who can't get dates, so they stay home and play with their
> 1/6 anime girls!!!!*jk*
> You practically have to go to Japan now to see mecha kits on display
> now...what is the deal?????
No, come to Montreal or Toronto. There's a model show here (Dorval) that
even has a separate category for mecha. http://pages.infinit.net/dragonsd
is the web page for this show (just checked it and it seems to be down).
Dom
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Prabal Nandy
In article <35579ce2....@news.recorder.ca>,
rfranklin <rfra...@recorder.ca> wrote:
>The less an anime kit looks like a human being, the better I like it.
>(Just got hold of 4 Macross "Pod" kits!) . Up with Mechs! Down with
>disproportioned mutant Barbies!
Up with mecha! Down with SCWEAGs! Up with MECHA! Down with SCWEAGs! Rah
rah rah! Face it, SCWEAGs blow and mecha kicks anime BUTT!
Martin Connell
Prabal Nandy wrote:
>
> I don't know... it looks like US anime model-makers are all a bunch of
> lonely freaks or something, it's damn hard to find an anime fan balanced
> enough these days to really appreciate the fine angles and curves of a
> kickass mecha kit! Nooo, instead they play with their "Oooh aah my
> Goddess" kits and other such stuff. Nope... Mecha modelling is much more
> popular in Japan, where they appreciate science and engineering alot more
> than in the US. Perhaps we'd build better cars if more of us built mecha
> models!
Wonderfest is, after all, a *figure* contest. I wouldn't be surprised if
most of the anime entries were by figure painters who got interested in
anime
because of a figure kit that appealed to them rather than anime fans who
got into modeling.
That's how I got interested in anime. I was in San Fran on business and
came across one of the Max Factory 1/6th Guyver kits and thought "Wow,
what's this all about?" It wasn't until several years later, when the
anime became available in the US that I even saw Guyver. Until then I
only knew what it was about from asking questions on the net. "Some
guy hits his head on a stainless steel danish which turns into a power
suit..."
I've built a few mecha kits now, but I'll always be a figure painter
first.
I started with 54mm military figures in 1975.
To each his own,
Marty
Sorry for the spam block.
Max Jenius
> The less an anime kit looks like a human being, the better I like it.
> (Just got hold of 4 Macross "Pod" kits!) . Up with Mechs! Down with
> disproportioned mutant Barbies!
Cool! Which ones did ya get, the Glaugs or the Regults?
Mata aouze
Ollie
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Max Jenius
> Up with mecha! Down with SCWEAGs! Up with MECHA! Down with SCWEAGs! Rah
> rah rah! Face it, SCWEAGs blow and mecha kicks anime BUTT!
Ha ha ha ^_^
I would expect this kind of stuff from you Probe ^_-
BTW what are "SCWEAGs"?
rfranklin
On Tue, 12 May 1998 18:35:10 +0100, m_je...@hotmail.com (Max Jenius)
wrote:
>> The less an anime kit looks like a human being, the better I like it.
>> (Just got hold of 4 Macross "Pod" kits!) . Up with Mechs! Down with
>> disproportioned mutant Barbies!
>
>Cool! Which ones did ya get, the Glaugs or the Regults?
>
>Mata aouze
>
>Ollie
>
To Provide you with this info I was subjected to a blow in the head by
an empty beer bottle.( It fell of the shelf while I was diggin' for
the model boxes)
The models in question:
Heavy Missle Carrier 1/100 ARII
Light Missle Carrier 1/100 ARII
Tactical Scout Type 1/100 ARII
Standard Type Tactical pod 1/72 IMAI
(all Regult)
Currently tryng to figure a way to do a nice beat up metal finish so
they'll look well used when built.
wrf
David Graf
rfranklin <rfra...@recorder.ca> wrote in article
> Currently tryng to figure a way to do a nice beat up metal finish so
> they'll look well used when built.
>
> wrf
>
dabs of liquid mask (Microscale Micro Mask or similar, or white glue works
OK) where you think the paint would get chipped - around hatches, grab
irons, feet and lower legs, etc. Paint the colors as normal. Look for the
little bumps where you put the masking agent, and pull it off. Oooh,
chipped paint. For extra credit, you can put down a coat of "primer" over
the metallic coat, add more dabs of mask, and then paint. Then you'll have
spots where the color coat wore through to the primer, but not to bare
metal. I did this to my MG Zaku II, and it looks pretty bad-ass.
Dave :-/
Lumraptor
Prabal Nandy (na...@aruba.u.arizona.edu) wrote:
: I don't know... it looks like US anime model-makers are all a bunch of
: lonely freaks or something,
Most anime figure fans I know get laid on a regular basis.
:it's damn hard to find an anime fan balanced
: enough these days to really appreciate the fine angles and curves of a
: kickass mecha kit!
Lumraptor imagines Prabal Nandy, who has admitted he PLAYS with his mecha
models on the covers of his bed ("CHAR! SHIINEI!!!" "WE WILL NEVER SUBMIT
TO THE FEDERATION!! AHHHRRRR!!" whooooshh, BAM!, Krushhhh!), trying to
pass himself off as a well balanced fan.
: Nooo, instead they play with their "Oooh aah my
: Goddess" kits and other such stuff.
It takes a lot of hours to finish the paint job on figure kits. No
playing with them, they go straight to the display cabinet.
: Nope... Mecha modelling is much more
: popular in Japan, where they appreciate science and engineering alot more
: than in the US. Perhaps we'd build better cars if more of us built mecha
: models!
No, they just have a lot of 10 year old boys with allowances that give
the impression that mecha modeling is more popular. When you look at the
number of adult fans in Japan, I think you will find the figures are about
on even keel with the mecha in popularity.
-Lumraptor
Lumraptor
: > The less an anime kit looks like a human being, the better I like it.
: > (Just got hold of 4 Macross "Pod" kits!) . Up with Mechs! Down with
: > disproportioned mutant Barbies!
Get a life. I could sit here and shit on your tastes in public like
you just shit on mine, but what's the point? There is room in this hobby
for fans of both kinds of kit fans. I would have liked to have seen mecha
fans descend on Wonderfest (Except who ever posted the above.) and make a
good show of themselves, but there was only one mecha entry- and it won a
silver medal. Maybe next year will be better.
-Lumraptor
Wayne C. Morris
Mark Kuettner <mku...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> &*$%@#!!!!!!!! Whatever!!! There must be a lot of lonely modellers
> out there who can't get dates, so they stay home and play with their
> 1/6 anime girls!!!!*jk*
Probably about the same as the number of social outcast modelers who
stay at home playing with their mecha models and wishing they had real
mecha so they could "get even" with society. ^_^
rfranklin
T'was an attempt at humour, stillborn it seems, nothing more. I'm
just a silly old fart whop's real passion is '30's flying boats.
sigh......
James E. Doyle
Ooooohh, a CONTROVERSY.... can't remember the last time we had one o'
those here... and I thought we were all too blissed out on paint fumes to
work up a lather over anything...
Look, kids, IT'S ALL GOOD, okay? I don't build figure models myself, but I
admire fine sculpting quality and slick design wherever I see it, and
there's plenty of both to be found in modern figure kits. My thing is
mecha, but I don't care if yours is figures, aircraft, armor, 1/1 scale
fake sushi, or whatever... if it works for you, fine. I get tired of the
constant dissing that goes on in rec.models.scale over subject
preferences, so let's not let it get too out of hand in here, 'kay?
One footnote... the reason my long-ago participation in anime clubs was so
short-lived was that for some reason, my average fellow member not only
had ZERO sense of humor, but generally took any difference of opinion
(however clumsily stated) as an excuse to start in with the personal
attacks. On a subject as ultimately trivial as little plastic models based
on cheap little cartoons, it's just not worth it. So I sincerely hope not
to see the group degenerate over the next week into escalating rounds of
tit-for-tat... got it?
Don't make me come back there!
James E. "Nunzilla" Doyle
--
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking 'till you do suck seed!"
C. Howard
Jung woo Park
Lumraptor wrote:
>
> Lumraptor imagines Prabal Nandy, who has admitted he PLAYS with his mecha
> models on the covers of his bed ("CHAR! SHIINEI!!!" "WE WILL NEVER SUBMIT
> TO THE FEDERATION!! AHHHRRRR!!" whooooshh, BAM!, Krushhhh!), trying to
> pass himself off as a well balanced fan.
>
I'm both armor and anime mecha modeler. Although I ocassionally build
anime figures.[armor modelers usually builds 1/35 figures, too]
> : Nooo, instead they play with their "Oooh aah my
> : Goddess" kits and other such stuff.
>
> It takes a lot of hours to finish the paint job on figure kits. No
> playing with them, they go straight to the display cabinet.
>
It takes far more hours to finsh a decent mecha kit. Obviously, the
time will depend upon the model, but mecha's require more
craftmanship, usually.
> : Nope... Mecha modelling is much more
> : popular in Japan, where they appreciate science and engineering alot more
> : than in the US. Perhaps we'd build better cars if more of us built mecha
> : models!
>
> No, they just have a lot of 10 year old boys with allowances that give
> the impression that mecha modeling is more popular. When you look at the
> number of adult fans in Japan, I think you will find the figures are about
> on even keel with the mecha in popularity.
>
> -Lumraptor
Do both of you actually know how popular each subjects are in Japan?
Can you read Japanese or personally know modelers in Japan?
I personally don't know, and I don't really care. I just build
whatever I like.
Fighting over which subject is better is like fighting over the taste
between Pepsi and Coke. Why can't we just drink whichever we like and
get along?
Both ANIME mecha's and figures comes from anime and both subjects are
models...
Trying out each other's subject might give both of you some clue about
each other's subject. Do this before trashing other's treasured
hobbies.
cps...@vaxf.isc.rit.edu
show with afairly heavy coat of the metal finish of your choice, and apply the
final color without sanding in between the two steps. Then, apply peices of
scotchtape to these areas and pull them off. Seal with a clear coat of some
type. Pro: the edges and blocks will appear sharper and more realistic than
applying a mask. Con: Your paint job will not be very stable until you apply
a clear coat, and it is much easier to screw the area up by removing too much.
You can also try applying rust of some sort (some metals do oxidize).
There are many products for this, but my favorite is apply Testors Acrilic
paint with a brush which has been dipped in paint thinner. This leaves a neat
slightly textured pattern which can be accented with Conte Crayons and/or
Pastels. You can also try applying washes of various colors to depict various
metals, or apply dull coat to specific areas to duplicate oxidation.
Zentradi Mecha was usually in poor shape because the Zentradi were not
very good at repairing them. This rarely ever mattered in battles, as usually
the Zentradi could be successful through shear numbers.
There is no one definite way to approach projects ;ike this, so
experimenting a little can prove usefull (just be sure to do so on something
which your not to concerned about messing up.
Have fun.
Isao Ohta
Bezerker of Justice
cps...@vaxf.isc.rit.edu
In article <6jakcj$o25$1...@news.indy.net>, lumr...@indy.net (Lumraptor) writes:
>Prabal Nandy (na...@aruba.u.arizona.edu) wrote:
>
>: I don't know... it looks like US anime model-makers are all a bunch of
>: lonely freaks or something,
>
> Most anime figure fans I know get laid on a regular basis.
>
>:it's damn hard to find an anime fan balanced
>: enough these days to really appreciate the fine angles and curves of a
>: kickass mecha kit!
>
>models on the covers of his bed ("CHAR! SHIINEI!!!" "WE WILL NEVER SUBMIT
>TO THE FEDERATION!! AHHHRRRR!!" whooooshh, BAM!, Krushhhh!), trying to
>pass himself off as a well balanced fan.
I don't think that being balanced has anything to do with is. Most of my
freinds are phsycos and nuerotics yet still love both mecha and figure model.
Some people (such as myself) are doomed never to grow up.
>
>: Nooo, instead they play with their "Oooh aah my
>: Goddess" kits and other such stuff.
>
> It takes a lot of hours to finish the paint job on figure kits. No
>playing with them, they go straight to the display cabinet.
I've never played with any of my kits, especially my mecha models. I spent
hour inventing ways to increase their mobility, only to stand them all in the
same, static "at ease" pose". Make sense, doesn't it?
In reality, it all boils down to the time and labor you spend on a subject, not
what the subject is. This becomes readily apparent in your final product, be
it Belldandy or Char's Sazabi.
>
>
>: Nope... Mecha modelling is much more
>: popular in Japan, where they appreciate science and engineering alot more
>: than in the US. Perhaps we'd build better cars if more of us built mecha
>: models!
>
> No, they just have a lot of 10 year old boys with allowances that give
>the impression that mecha modeling is more popular. When you look at the
>number of adult fans in Japan, I think you will find the figures are about
>on even keel with the mecha in popularity.
>
>-Lumraptor
I'm no expert on what goes on in Japan, but when you concider:
a. the price of a figure model compaired to the average mecha kit
b. the huge number of inexpensive Bandia and the like kits which are produced
each year
c. the cost of resin and vinal verses the cost of most plastics
it becomes obvious why mecha kits are more readily visible. However, this does
not make them any better.
Personally, 65% of my subjects are US automobiles (especially 1929 to 1970
heavy trucks), 33% are mecha, and the remaining are various subjects including
figure models (i have about 500 kits or so, so this is still a decent number)
and I wouldn't knock adding another genre or two to it. I feel that nearly
everything has it's own validity, and that we are all modelers, and equally
deserving credit for our efforts.
As to a "superiority" of Japanese vehicles over US vehicles, don't even get me
started.
I started building kits at about 10 or 11 years old, and have been doing so for
nearly 15 years now (which also gives you an idea of how much of an old fart I
am). I thank the plastic gods that kits were cheap and allowence came regular,
or I might have a real life of some sort today, instead of the blessedness of
cutting little peices and attaching them to each other while summarily
attempting to keep all of my extremities from becoming dettached and my fingers
from being glued together. Have fun.
Isao Ohta
Bezerker of Justice
I'll zing anyone, especially myself!!!!!
Prabal Nandy
In article <m_jenius-120...@host5-99-54-38.btinternet.com>,
Max Jenius <m_je...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Up with mecha! Down with SCWEAGs! Up with MECHA! Down with SCWEAGs! Rah
>> rah rah! Face it, SCWEAGs blow and mecha kicks anime BUTT!
GRIN!
>BTW what are "SCWEAGs"?
"Scantily Clad Wide-Eyed Anime Girls"
(GRIN)
Prabal Nandy
In article <SeeMessageBody-...@pool004-max14.ds6-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net>,
>Look, kids, IT'S ALL GOOD, okay? I don't build figure models myself, but I
>admire fine sculpting quality and slick design wherever I see it, and
>there's plenty of both to be found in modern figure kits. My thing is
Noooo! There is ONLY mecha! How can a body be sculpted!? Humans SUCK and
robots RULE! Face it, nothing beats slabs o' metal over bulging
booster-studded frames, with tool arms (drool), machine-guns, ammo belts
(Swoon) and glowing sensor monoeyes! How can some dreary two-armed, smooth
skinned (Puke) bathing-suited female ever COMPARE to the GRANDEUR of a
MECHA!? (Makes gundam laser sounds) Figure kits are for guys who can't
STAND UP TO THE VICTORY! (Giggles)
>mecha, but I don't care if yours is figures, aircraft, armor, 1/1 scale
>fake sushi, or whatever... if it works for you, fine. I get tired of the
1/1 Fake Sushi kits!?
What's your take on 1/1 scale fake sushi kit recasts by Elfin? (wink!)
>had ZERO sense of humor, but generally took any difference of opinion
>(however clumsily stated) as an excuse to start in with the personal
>attacks. On a subject as ultimately trivial as little plastic models based
What, how DARE you, you, you sniveling imbecillic half-constructed
injection-molded glue-dripping excuse for a modeller!? Some of us have
DAMN good sense of humor and can take anything in stride you... you...
PRIZE TURNIP!!!
>to see the group degenerate over the next week into escalating rounds of
>tit-for-tat... got it?
There you go.... slyly praising FIGURE kits again!
Prabal Nandy
In article <6jakcj$o25$1...@news.indy.net>, Lumraptor <lumr...@indy.net> wrote:
>Prabal Nandy (na...@aruba.u.arizona.edu) wrote:
(Hey man, stop being so serious about such a loony argument! Sheesh!)
>: lonely freaks or something,
> Most anime figure fans I know get laid on a regular basis.
Laid... by WHAT?
>: enough these days to really appreciate the fine angles and curves of a
>: kickass mecha kit!
>Lumraptor imagines Prabal Nandy, who has admitted he PLAYS with his mecha
>models on the covers of his bed ("CHAR! SHIINEI!!!" "WE WILL NEVER SUBMIT
>TO THE FEDERATION!! AHHHRRRR!!" whooooshh, BAM!, Krushhhh!), trying to
>pass himself off as a well balanced fan.
HEY!
There is NOTHING wrong with a guy who plays with his mecha kits... in
bed. Is there? Come on! How else can you recreate the heroic wars of the
future, with Char and Amuro locked in mortal combat while you use your
covers to recreate some of the most famous battles of Mobile Suit Gundam
(Cheers!) HA! I'd like to see you recreate famous anime battles under the
covers with FIGURE kits! This proves once and for all that mecha modellers
are the one and only TRUE FANS of ANIME! Mhu ha ha ha ha! (Loony grin)
>: Nooo, instead they play with their "Oooh aah my
>: Goddess" kits and other such stuff.
> It takes a lot of hours to finish the paint job on figure kits. No
>playing with them, they go straight to the display cabinet.
Yeah, well... where's the FUN in that!? Mecha aren't just for buildin',
they're for EXPERIENCING! Imagine if we could all just BE mecha! (Pulls
hair) the world would be such a cool place! Tokyo would get stomped EVERY
DAY! (jumps up and down) Think how much cooler baseball would be, WITH
MECHA! Think about how much cooler X-Files would be... WITH MECHA! Think
how much cooler Desert Storm would be... WITH MECHA! Think how much cooler
corn dogs would be, WITH MECHA!
Keep building those mecha and they will come! It can happen! March
onward, heroic fangs-of-the sun mobile suit mobile battleship successor
neon genesis mecha kit builders, zeta zeta!!
>: Nope... Mecha modelling is much more
>: popular in Japan, where they appreciate science and engineering alot more
> No, they just have a lot of 10 year old boys with allowances that give
>the impression that mecha modeling is more popular. When you look at the
Bah! Everyone knows that a society that builds model robots on a
consistant basis is inherently better educated and built for success than
a society that builds figure kits! Come on, look at the statistics here!
(Winks)
>number of adult fans in Japan, I think you will find the figures are about
>on even keel with the mecha in popularity.
I'm not sure I believe that, if only for _economic_ reasons. After all,
they don't MAKE mass production figure kits as far as I know, but they DO
make mecha kits!
I think if you balance GK mecha and GK figures, the Figures will
probably win out. But overall mecha and figures, no contest. Also look at
your sampling, figure modellers are well known Convention-fans, while
mecha fans are of the Nixonesque "Silent Majority"!
Prabal Nandy
In article <1d8vpts.1y2...@dock09-25.ner.pangea.ca>,
Wayne C. Morris <no.damn...@this.address> wrote:
>Mark Kuettner <mku...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> out there who can't get dates, so they stay home and play with their
>> 1/6 anime girls!!!!*jk*
>Probably about the same as the number of social outcast modelers who
>stay at home playing with their mecha models and wishing they had real
>mecha so they could "get even" with society. ^_^
Hey, you understand! Imagine how cool it would be if you could walk in
on all those kids who tormented you when you were in school... with a
MECHA!
For Revenge... you can't beat the Heavy Arms Custom from Endless Waltz,
it's the perfect mecha for mass-mutilation machine gunning of crowds of
faceless enemies! Look at those gatling cannons! It's got two small
caliber vulcans, two midsize cannons, FOUR laser-designated high-speed
chain cannons, and FOUR MASSIVE BUTT-KICKIN' MEGA MACHINE GATLINGS! Oooh!
Think of all the DESTRUCTION! Add to that about 10 different packs of
anime spiralin', massive blastage guided warhead slammer-missiles and
you've got a recipe for gettin' even with "Dah Man"! Cut MY funding will
yah? Call me antisocial will you? Oooh, so I've got a problem getting
along with pulpy slimy smelly HUMANS eh? So I don't play nice do I?
Insensitive to your 'needs'? Well... EAT THIS! (BRAAAAP) STAND UP TO THE
VICTORY! (BRAAAAAAAP) "Mhu ha ha haha!" (Whooosh KABOOOM!) "Heh heh heh!
Take this, you two-bit shrinks!" (BRAAAAP! Pah-TOING! Fazzzzop!)
The Endless Waltz Gundam Wing Heavy Arms Custom... now from Bandai in
1/144 and 1/100 scales. Get even TODAY!
(I'm telling you, Bandai should let ME take over their advertising
campaign... I'd have people who've got no business anywhere near a hobby
knife clamoring for mecha kits in NO TIME!)
James E. Doyle
In article <355A3A6A...@geocities.com>, Asuka
<asuka-...@geocities.com> wrote:
> And about flaming another person like you did.. Thats not only rude,
but shows a sever
> lack of people skills.
...actually, I think being called a "Prize Turnip" counts as one of the
most original insults I've been dealt all year, and I plan to plagiarize
it frequently from now on.
All in good fun, laddies...
James E. "Rhubarb Flint" Doyle
--
"She drove me to drink... and I never had the good graces to thank her."
W.C. Fields
jimbo
> Probably about the same as the number of social outcast modelers who
> stay at home playing with their mecha models and wishing they had real
>
> mecha so they could "get even" with society. ^_^
YES . . . YESSS !!! nothing better than taking a real AV-98 Ingram
and 'shotgunning' the bung head that cut me off in traffic today.. that
would be nice... oooh... yeah.... Hey how about Godzilla against Eva
01??? cool..
james
jim...@gte.net
Asuka
<<SNIP>>
> Noooo! There is ONLY mecha! How can a body be sculpted!? Humans SUCK and
> robots RULE! Face it, nothing beats slabs o' metal over bulging
> booster-studded frames, with tool arms (drool), machine-guns, ammo belts
> (Swoon) and glowing sensor monoeyes! How can some dreary two-armed, smooth
> skinned (Puke) bathing-suited female ever COMPARE to the GRANDEUR of a
> MECHA!? (Makes gundam laser sounds) Figure kits are for guys who can't
> STAND UP TO THE VICTORY! (Giggles)
>
> What, how DARE you, you, you sniveling imbecillic half-constructed
> injection-molded glue-dripping excuse for a modeller!? Some of us have
> DAMN good sense of humor and can take anything in stride you... you...
> PRIZE TURNIP!!!
>
<<Paste>>
I think what the ol' chap was trying to put in front of your eyes, and reading ability is that
for all intents and propuses people have their own opinions.
Now I personally like doing figures, Sure a mecha is good, and challenging in its own
right.. but when it comes down to it, I feel personally.. coming from a Armor, plane modelling
background. That figures, of any nature that is of the human form, is an extreme challenge..
People know what their looking at.. An Eye is an eye on a real woman as on an resin woman.
Period..
And about flaming another person like you did.. Thats not only rude, but shows a sever
lack of people skills. I'm sure your quite intelligent though, considering the hobby your
invovled in, but your person to person interaction leaves something to be desired.
Mathias
Asuka
Asuka
Asuka
Asuka
Prabal Nandy
In article <SeeMessageBody-...@3cust1.tnt2.sdg1.da.uu.net>,
>but shows a sever
>> lack of people skills.
>most original insults I've been dealt all year, and I plan to plagiarize
>it frequently from now on.
>All in good fun, laddies...
GRIN! Thanks bud! I couldn't have done it without you! Who would have
thought that a post by you about how figure kitters have no sense of
humor, followed by a humorous joke-flame by me, could so QUICKLY have
netted a humorless figure modeller!? GRIN!
Once again, the mightly metal making minions of mecha modelling have
through mecha modelling mania mechanically mashed the masquerading masses
of fanatic figure figeters!
Ah, okay, this thread was fun for a day, but I grow weary, and the great
hunger is upon me once more! GO mighty Web-surfer! Hurtle through
the netways and bring me KITS to feed my endless thirst!
(Heh heh)
Right now I'm building the "1/144 RX-79 EZ-8 Gundam Special", it's a
great mecha kit with tons of acessories and gimmicks for a 1/144 kit,
including opening cockpit (!), slide open chest utility panels,
antipersonnel munitions turret, soft rubber parachute straps, detachable
parachute pack, detachable booster pack, detachable forklift backpack, a
scale-figure of Shiro (Pilot), beam rifle, two sabers, moving knee and
shoulder armors, an _open_ hand, a cool GM-style head, and MORE MORE MORE!
And I've left out the facepiece and instead added in a piece of highly
reflective luminous red plastic for that cool GM look! More later!
Wayne C. Morris
Asuka <asuka-...@geocities.com> wrote:
> > Noooo! There is ONLY mecha! How can a body be sculpted!?
[snip]
> > How can some dreary two-armed, smooth skinned (Puke) bathing-suited
> > female ever COMPARE to the GRANDEUR of a MECHA!? (Makes gundam laser
> > sounds) Figure kits are for guys who can't STAND UP TO THE VICTORY!
> > (Giggles)
> >
> > What, how DARE you, you, you sniveling imbecillic half-constructed
> > injection-molded glue-dripping excuse for a modeller!? Some of us have
> > DAMN good sense of humor and can take anything in stride you... you...
> > PRIZE TURNIP!!!
>
[snip]
>
> And about flaming another person like you did.. Thats not only rude,
> but shows a sever lack of people skills. I'm sure your quite intelligent
> though, considering the hobby your invovled in, but your person to person
> interaction leaves something to be desired.
>
> Mathias
Gee, I could've sworn that he was only joking... I mean, how can you
take him seriously when he's giggling, making laser sounds, and calling
us prize turnips?
Prabal Nandy
In article <355966d6...@news.recorder.ca>,
>To Provide you with this info I was subjected to a blow in the head by
>an empty beer bottle.( It fell of the shelf while I was diggin' for
Hey!
No drinking and detailing! It can be hazardous to your health!
>Heavy Missle Carrier 1/100 ARII
>Light Missle Carrier 1/100 ARII
>Tactical Scout Type 1/100 ARII
>Standard Type Tactical pod 1/72 IMAI
>(all Regult)
(Whistle)
So how long have you had these puppies? I don't think any of those have
been reissued for the anniversary!
>Currently tryng to figure a way to do a nice beat up metal finish so
>they'll look well used when built.
I generally like to score up the feet of my models and then let black
and dull-silver paint 'seep' into the damaged areas to give that scratched
off paint look!
-Probe
rfranklin
On 19 May 1998 17:42:14 GMT, na...@aruba.u.arizona.edu (Prabal Nandy)
wrote:
>In article <355966d6...@news.recorder.ca>,
>>To Provide you with this info I was subjected to a blow in the head by
>>an empty beer bottle.( It fell of the shelf while I was diggin' for
>
> Hey!
> No drinking and detailing! It can be hazardous to your health!
>
>>Heavy Missle Carrier 1/100 ARII
>>Light Missle Carrier 1/100 ARII
>>Tactical Scout Type 1/100 ARII
>>Standard Type Tactical pod 1/72 IMAI
>>(all Regult)
>
> (Whistle)
> So how long have you had these puppies? I don't think any of those have
>been reissued for the anniversary!
>
These are antiques that I purcased in a moment of weakness, (or maybe
it had something to do with the beer..........). I like the design of
these puppies. It was pictures of these fellas that got me interested
in anime in the first place. So now I'm happy but poorer. (Where's the
beer? And it's real beer, <Canadian> beer...... )
Shields up! Flamethrowers to max!
wrf
WRF
"Nooooooo! Stop me before I build again."
James E. Doyle
In article <356227ab...@news.recorder.ca>, rfra...@recorder.ca
(rfranklin) wrote:
> >>Heavy Missle Carrier 1/100 ARII
> >>Light Missle Carrier 1/100 ARII
> >>Tactical Scout Type 1/100 ARII
> >>Standard Type Tactical pod 1/72 IMAI
> >>(all Regult)
> >
> > (Whistle)
> > So how long have you had these puppies? I don't think any of those have
> >been reissued for the anniversary!
> >
>
> These are antiques that I purcased in a moment of weakness, (or maybe
> it had something to do with the beer..........). I like the design of
> these puppies. It was pictures of these fellas that got me interested
> in anime in the first place. So now I'm happy but poorer. (Where's the
> beer? And it's real beer, <Canadian> beer...... )
Man, there was something about the MACROSS series... not to mention many
others from the mid-80's... there was just a certain magic about those
kits that is missing from the current GUNDAM *Infinity* selection (hey, if
anyone from Sunrise is reading this post, I'll sue yer ass if you steal
that for the name of your next G-crapfest... I know you've almost run out
the letters of the alphabet, but that's not my problem).
Now, mind you, I wholeheartedly dig most all the GUNDAM stuff, and the
technical sophistication of the recent releases is far beyond anything to
be found in the MACROSS line and a genuine joy to behold, but I get a
certain singular thrill from the ambition and variety that could be found
in those old kits. So many cool, weird things, the likes of which would be
either too large or too obscure for the bean-counters to put into
production today... the 1/100 ARII REGULT triplets, the very awesome
big-scale GLAUG and MONSTER kits... the 1/72 DESTROID TOMAHAWK... the
multiple variations of damn near everything, each with its very own cool
painted illustration on the box top... some of which had several very
distinct art variations to boot? That, and you could get many of the best
kits for between 3 and 10 dollars back when they were new, back when Pony
Toy was THE place for mecha rather than a fond memory... Not to mention
the many other bizarre and relatively affordable kits that the other
manufacturers were doing back then.
Fer example, does anyone else here appreciate how freakin' cool the
XABUNGLE kits are? Great detail, many itsy-bitsy pieces (almost like a
REAL model), and crazy designs that would never fly with the current
safety-minded drones at Bandai. Yes, those were the good ol' days... I
could never have amassed a collection of 1000+ kits if they had ALL cost
30-50 bucks, after all...
Well, I was lucky. I got hooked when MACROSS was a new thing, so I managed
to get at least one of every molding done in the ARII/IMAI series (except
for the "VALKYRIE gunpod" and the motorized Minmay doll. both of which I
had at least one shot at.... a regret, if only a mild one. Hell, I came
THIS close to missing out on the insanely cool 1/160 MONSTER) while they
were still readily available (the 1/200 GLAUG and 1/72 TOMAHAWK were my
second and third anime models ever, bought for a pittance at an office
supply store, of all places). Every time Bandai regurgitates the MACROSS
line, I always hope for a little more than we end up getting... and of
course we never do.
I don't know what they are doing with all those molds... I mean, where's
the TOMAHAWK? Where's the SDF-1? Where are *any* of the REGULTs??? ARII
sits on its molds too, and it really annoyed me to see the 15th
Anniversary come and go with nothing more than the usual rehash to show
for it (Jeez, Bandai couldn't even be bothered to reissue the 1/100
ARMORED VALKYRIES or the coolish SD series from the previous revivals this
time around... feh).
I wonder what the deal is? I suppose it's possible the molds for certain
kits don't exist anymore... too bad, 'cause I'd love to have duplicates of
some of these things, and for you M-fans out there who can't afford the
old ones, some of them are verrrry nice, too. That 1/72 REGULT... what a
beauty that thing is... as close to flawless as they come circa 1984. Ahh
well, there is always 2002... and maybe some enterprising upstart company
will find a way to make these rare kits available to the fans again...
either that, or you'll have to pay through the nose when I finally unload
mine.
MACROSS got me started on this whole mecha kick... there's never been
another model series quite like it. I think both ARII and BANDAI are
sitting on top of some very serious dollars which they COULD be making off
of these more obscure kits, particularly with a wide release in this
country. At least someone had the good sense to re-release the ZENTRAEDI
ships.... uhhmm, did anyone actually buy them ,though?
Memories, babe... but I'm trying to stay focused on the here and now... as
in, I want enough money to snap up all the GWEW kits, and a PG EVA-01, and
a nice black Integra, and an apartment in a REAL city, and a certain
Texas blonde (though she can't be bought per se, it goes without saying
that money wouldn't hurt). Sigh.... it's always about money, isn't it?
Peace, kids... and remember, if it stinks, don't sniff it.
James E. " Cheap But Hard To Get" Doyle
Prabal Nandy
In article <SeeMessageBody-...@pool044-max4.ds6-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net>,
>> these puppies. It was pictures of these fellas that got me interested
>> in anime in the first place. So now I'm happy but poorer. (Where's the
I totally understand!
They just don't MAKE kits like that anymore. Hell, when was the last
time you saw a totally inhumanoid looking kit from Bandai? And those
Macross kits had STYLE too... The Zetraedi ship designs are still
unmatched in terms of pure villany!
>certain singular thrill from the ambition and variety that could be found
>in those old kits. So many cool, weird things, the likes of which would be
>either too large or too obscure for the bean-counters to put into
>production today... the 1/100 ARII REGULT triplets, the very awesome
>big-scale GLAUG and MONSTER kits... the 1/72 DESTROID TOMAHAWK... the
Definately true.
In the old days it wasn't unusual to have a new model for EVERY DESIGN
in the series. Nowadays you're lucky if you get anything more than
endlessly regurgitated versions of the 'main mecha', and you're lucky if
those designs don't share 60% of the exact same molds. (Gundam G-Unit for
example).
Sure, they're technically more sophisticated these days, but what's the
point when the designs are all about the same? And are slowly backsliding
into the "Giant Robo" Era of mecha?
>multiple variations of damn near everything, each with its very own cool
>painted illustration on the box top... some of which had several very
>distinct art variations to boot? That, and you could get many of the best
Bandai box art has gone steadly DOWNHILL ever since the beautiful
paintings on the 0080-series boxes (The pinnacle of Gundam models in my
eye). Nowadays you get some seedy box art that looks like something from a
production sketch, with a crappy abstract background. The computer
generated MG boxes are the shame of the industry! The box art is SO ugly
in places it's actually _kept_ me from buying the kit!
At least the latest 8MST kits are trying to get back into the 'cell-art'
look of box-covers.
>the many other bizarre and relatively affordable kits that the other
>manufacturers were doing back then.
When there was actually something called "Competition" back in Japan,
yeah.
>could never have amassed a collection of 1000+ kits if they had ALL cost
>30-50 bucks, after all...
And the prices are steadily going up. Who could have imagined a $50
gundam kit even 10 years ago?
>THIS close to missing out on the insanely cool 1/160 MONSTER) while they
>were still readily available (the 1/200 GLAUG and 1/72 TOMAHAWK were my
>second and third anime models ever, bought for a pittance at an office
I remember those days, and those fabulous 1/200 scale kits that just
kicked butt!
Whatever happened to the days when you could get a small, but nice model
for just $2?
>I don't know what they are doing with all those molds... I mean, where's
>the TOMAHAWK? Where's the SDF-1? Where are *any* of the REGULTs??? ARII
I think they figure nobody's interested in the 'bit players', eh? Bah!
The Zentraedi designs were what made Macross so cool in the first place!
>old ones, some of them are verrrry nice, too. That 1/72 REGULT... what a
>beauty that thing is... as close to flawless as they come circa 1984. Ahh
I remember... I remember...
>well, there is always 2002... and maybe some enterprising upstart company
>will find a way to make these rare kits available to the fans again...
Fat chance, Bandai and friends have a stranglehold on the rights to
them.
>either that, or you'll have to pay through the nose when I finally unload
>mine.
Or you can save 'em for your grandkids! (Whoops, I actually wrote
"Grandkits" at first!)
>country. At least someone had the good sense to re-release the ZENTRAEDI
>ships.... uhhmm, did anyone actually buy them ,though?
Mee! Mee! I love those Zentraedi ships!
>in, I want enough money to snap up all the GWEW kits, and a PG EVA-01, and
Ah, you're giving in to the MAN, man! Fight the power! Boycott Gundam
kits! Sell 'em to me instead! Revolution! Model-Class 1/144 War NOW! (In
the pocket!)
>Texas blonde (though she can't be bought per se, it goes without saying
>that money wouldn't hurt). Sigh.... it's always about money, isn't it?
It's always about money, and it's always about models. We who follow the
plastic warrior can never attain peace or satisfaction in this world until
we sit at the injection-molded altar of the never-blinking machine and
raise our Exactos to the exalted 1/1 scale sky, close our eyes, and feel
the soft 'riiip' of splitting shrinkwrap, the smell of long cloistered
release-agents, the soft caress of finely finished plastic parts laced
with the smell of cyanoacryllates and petrolleum distillates.
Go forth, young boy! Rise like a LMHG Evangeleon and seize your destiny
of the dream! Sieze the day! Deny the outside world, close your windows
and shades, unplug your phone, forswear the smelly, soft, skin-covered
masses of humanity, forsake women and men and STAND UP TO THE VICTORY
GUNDAM! There is ONLY Mecha! All else is illusion!
cer...@wcos.com
> It's always about money, and it's always about models. We who follow the
>plastic warrior can never attain peace or satisfaction in this world until
>we sit at the injection-molded altar of the never-blinking machine and
>raise our Exactos to the exalted 1/1 scale sky, close our eyes, and feel
>the soft 'riiip' of splitting shrinkwrap, the smell of long cloistered
>release-agents, the soft caress of finely finished plastic parts laced
>with the smell of cyanoacryllates and petrolleum distillates.
> Go forth, young boy! Rise like a LMHG Evangeleon and seize your destiny
>of the dream! Sieze the day! Deny the outside world, close your windows
>and shades, unplug your phone, forswear the smelly, soft, skin-covered
>masses of humanity, forsake women and men and STAND UP TO THE VICTORY
>GUNDAM! There is ONLY Mecha! All else is illusion!
>
This is a sick sick person. Unfortuately, I'm this sick as
well. Any cures?? :)
Jeff Kleist
Mike
On 23 May 1998 19:27:27 GMT, na...@aruba.u.arizona.edu (Prabal Nandy)
wrote:
>In article <SeeMessageBody-...@pool044-max4.ds6-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net>,
> I totally understand!
> They just don't MAKE kits like that anymore. Hell, when was the last
>time you saw a totally inhumanoid looking kit from Bandai? And those
>Macross kits had STYLE too... The Zetraedi ship designs are still
>unmatched in terms of pure villany!
> Bandai box art has gone steadly DOWNHILL ever since the beautiful
>paintings on the 0080-series boxes
>>could never have amassed a collection of 1000+ kits if they had ALL cost
>>30-50 bucks, after all...
> And the prices are steadily going up. Who could have imagined a $50
>gundam kit even 10 years ago?
>
> Whatever happened to the days when you could get a small, but nice model
>for just $2?
>>well, there is always 2002... and maybe some enterprising upstart company
>>will find a way to make these rare kits available to the fans again...
>
> Fat chance, Bandai and friends have a stranglehold on the rights to
>them.
Have you guys ever thought about writing to them? I used to live in
Japan and was lucky enough to buy a lot of kits back in the 80's. At
that time these kits were just something else on the shelves, and cost
around $1 ~ $3 apiece. Garage kits were much more, but were much more
creative. There were/are entire stores dedicated to just scratch
building. Anyway, there was one occasion when I went to the Bandai
factory trying to cash in a coupon for a free Book, if you collected
enough model kits. Turns out they had a run on the things and were
out. This secretary connected me to the guy in charge who came down
and said he was really really sorry, but if I would forgive their
miscounting on the popularity and also the used condition of his own
personal book, he wanted to make it a gift to me. The japanese are
really special people and I bet if you write to them directly and
-not- to some US subsidiary, you would get a response eventually.
They are shy about speaking english, but appreciate it when customers
take an interest to send them a letter in the mail. Another time, I
subscribed to Hobby Japan magazine. The US mail failed to get me a
couple of issues, so I wrote to the magazine and said I missed some
issues, so they wrote to apologize, trusted my honesty, sent me the
back issues plus a gift of another book! I'm telling you, writing
polite letters to them is the way to go.
Mike