Macross Valkyrie transformable... where??? And pics of my Nu-Gundam
Dr Joolz
original (NOT plus, 2, 7 <urgh!> etc) transformable Valkyrie fighter
plane/robot? Also have a look at my Nu-Gundam (Bandai, not MG though)
http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/jxm96c/lst?&.dir=/My+Gundam&.src=ph&.begin=999
9&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/jxm96c/lst%3f%26.dir
=/My%2bGundam%26.src=ph%26.view=t
Okay it's a very long link but it works.
Thanks,
Jules
***24 hours in a day...24 beers in a case...coincidence?***
George Caswell
> Dear all I'm desperately looking for places where I can buy a Macross
> original (NOT plus, 2, 7 <urgh!> etc) transformable Valkyrie fighter
> plane/robot? Also have a look at my Nu-Gundam (Bandai, not MG though)
>
Model or toy?
For models Hobby Link Japan is probably a good bet... The crappy
transforming valk like I have shouldn't be hard to find. (Mine is a
space-type Max valk, transformation requires removing the legs and aircraft
nose, replacing the nose with an alternate piece and re-attaching the legs -
battroid mode looks like ass)
I have a question as well - was there another, better, transforming valk
kit than the one I have? I have fuzzy memories from around 1986 or so of
building (badly, of course) a transforming plane kit with variable geometry
wings and such... but, then again, I also seem to remember it saying "Go
Bots" on the box, so I dunno if it was actually some sort of Valk (like a
Robotech model line release) or just another transforming plane with sort of
the same idea... but I'm sure I didn't have to take that one apart to
transform it.
---GEC
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Dr Joolz <juliu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dear all I'm desperately looking for places where I can buy a Macross
> original (NOT plus, 2, 7 <urgh!> etc) transformable Valkyrie fighter
> plane/robot? Also have a look at my Nu-Gundam (Bandai, not MG though)
Well, I do have the original Transformers "Jetfire" Valkyrie as well as a
Korean knockoff of Jetfire if you're interested in the old VF-1.
CF-18
wrote:
>Dear all I'm desperately looking for places where I can buy a Macross
>original (NOT plus, 2, 7 <urgh!> etc) transformable Valkyrie fighter
>plane/robot? Also have a look at my Nu-Gundam (Bandai, not MG though)
If you are talking about toys, wait a few more month. You can already
pre-order the Yamato VF-1 at HLJ.com
Take a look here for the summary of the upcoming new and old VF-1
http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/news/_news_n041.htm
Yoshi
aircraft
>nose, replacing the nose with an alternate >piece and re-attaching the legs -
Yeah....I guess you're refering about the transformable 1/100 Super Valkyries
made by Arii, an re-released later by Bandai.
> I have a question as well - was there another, >better, transforming valk kit
than the one I >have?
There are the 1/72 Variable Valkyries by Imai (re-released later by Bandai).
They're quite better than the 1/100, though you still have to remove legs,
change the nosecone and re-attache legs.
Judge by yourself :
http://216.12.215.2/macross/models/bandai/30497i.jpg
T Wong the Cow
is going over the edge? I mean, $80 for a freakin' transforming
Stealth Valkyrie! And the new VF-1's are the same price! $3000 for
those custom-sculpted Valks! Man! Even that 1/170 HEWAT Max Valkyrie I
wanted has doubled in price (or maybe it's the place I'm probably
going to get it from, I dunno)!
CF-18 <noemai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<uabrnt0j4bl4tcm8k...@4ax.com>...
Paul Segal
> Speaking of the Yamato VF-1, don't you think prices for Macross stuff
> is going over the edge? I mean, $80 for a freakin' transforming
> Stealth Valkyrie! And the new VF-1's are the same price! $3000 for
> those custom-sculpted Valks! Man! Even that 1/170 HEWAT Max Valkyrie I
> wanted has doubled in price (or maybe it's the place I'm probably
> going to get it from, I dunno)!
>
Yeah, it's ridiculous. Even those cheap bootleg transforming Valks are
going for $20-25 on eBay...at this rate, I'll never own *any*
transforming Valkyrie toy.
James C. Nevermann
> wings and such... but, then again, I also seem to remember it saying "Go
> Bots" on the box, so I dunno if it was actually some sort of Valk (like a
> Robotech model line release) or just another transforming plane with sort of
> the same idea... but I'm sure I didn't have to take that one apart to
> transform it.
"Go-Bots" were Monograms' renamed/repackaged Mospeada kits [which came
out after Macross] and the "Armo-Divers" [sic] were their also
three-form transformable version of Valkyries, though blockier in
overall configuration.
--
Jim Nevermann
[usual disclaimers]
George Caswell
I'm not sure I've got it yet - so there's a Valkyrie-like design in
Mospeda, which got repackaged as part of Monogram's Go-Bots line? Or another
Valk kit got repackaged into the Go-Bots line?
See, when I think Go-Bots, I think the not-as-cool-as-Transformers
transformers, who shot beams out of their fists instead of carrying around
guns, and had that good-guy F-15 and stuff... :) They do love to confuse us.
Paul Segal
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, James C. Nevermann wrote:
>
> > George Caswell wrote:
> >
> > > wings and such... but, then again, I also seem to remember it saying "Go
> > > Bots" on the box, so I dunno if it was actually some sort of Valk (like a
> > > Robotech model line release) or just another transforming plane with sort > > > of
> > > the same idea... but I'm sure I didn't have to take that one apart to
> > > transform it.
> >
> > "Go-Bots" were Monograms' renamed/repackaged Mospeada kits [which came
> > out after Macross] and the "Armo-Divers" [sic] were their also
> > three-form transformable version of Valkyries, though blockier in
> > overall configuration.
> >
> I'm not sure I've got it yet - so there's a Valkyrie-like design in
> Mospeda, which got repackaged as part of Monogram's Go-Bots line? Or another
> Valk kit got repackaged into the Go-Bots line?
>
Mospeada had the Alpha fighter, which was basically a Valkyrie, but
sharp-edged instead of smooth.
Eric Harding
Not anywhere close to basically being a Valkyrie. The lines, shape, and even
transfromation scheme is completely different.
Eric
James C. Nevermann
> Mospeada had the Alpha fighter, which was basically a Valkyrie, but
> sharp-edged instead of smooth.
You're right: `Alpha fighter'... I'd forgotten the name.
"Armo Diver" [if I remember correctly even now] was the jet fighter
form. Like Valkyries , the Alphas were available in single pose and
transformable kits. I had the 1/48 3-form kit, but traded it in before
building, so never knew its transformation process as any different
from the Valkyries'.
Paul Segal
As I remember it, it's got the arms and legs tucked under the fuselage
in jet mode, it's got the cockpit in the chest and the wings on the
back in robot mode, and it's got a gerwalk mode. That's close enough
for me :)
George Caswell
> > >Mospeada had the Alpha fighter, which was basically a Valkyrie, but
> > >sharp-edged instead of smooth.
> >
> > Not anywhere close to basically being a Valkyrie. The lines, shape, and even
> > transfromation scheme is completely different.
>
> As I remember it, it's got the arms and legs tucked under the fuselage
> in jet mode, it's got the cockpit in the chest and the wings on the
> back in robot mode, and it's got a gerwalk mode. That's close enough
> for me :)
>
Are there any images of the design or the kit floating about somewheres?
Paul Segal
>
> > > >Mospeada had the Alpha fighter, which was basically a Valkyrie, but
> > > >sharp-edged instead of smooth.
> > >
> > > Not anywhere close to basically being a Valkyrie. The lines, shape, and even
> > > transfromation scheme is completely different.
> >
> > As I remember it, it's got the arms and legs tucked under the fuselage
> > in jet mode, it's got the cockpit in the chest and the wings on the
> > back in robot mode, and it's got a gerwalk mode. That's close enough
> > for me :)
> >
> Are there any images of the design or the kit floating about somewheres?
>
I could scans some stuff out of the Robotech: The New Generation
comics, drawings of the fighter and photos of the old transforming
toy.
I don't know if you want that, though, since the comic depiction could
be wildly inaccurate.
Dave
> Mospeda, which got repackaged as part of Monogram's Go-Bots line? Or another
> Valk kit got repackaged into the Go-Bots line?
Mospeada has a transforming robot/jet fighter called a Legioss that's
somewhat similar to a Macross Valkyrie. The three modes are
Armo-Fighter (jet fighter), Armo-Diver (gerwalk), and Armo-Soldier
(battloid). The AFC-01H Legioss Officer Model - the blue one, used by
Stick/Scott Bernard - was sold by Monogram as the Gobot Guardian
leader Alpha One. The cool part is that it came with all the Mospeada
decals - Mars Base, etc. ^_^
On a related note, Monogram also sold the VR-41H Blowsperior Ride
Armor (the stabby one used by Yellow Belmont) as the Gobot Renegade
leader, Cy-Kill. Again, with Mospeada decals and all. ^_^
Both, if I recall correctly, were good kits at the time, better than
the repackaged Dougram crap and such that Revell was tossing around as
the "Robotech Defenders." They transformed fairly easily and looked
great in their various modes.
-- Dave
Dave
> in jet mode, it's got the cockpit in the chest and the wings on the
> back in robot mode, and it's got a gerwalk mode.
The arms went on its back like a Super Valkyrie's boosters. The
Legioss is really closer to a Super Valkyrie than a normal one, what
with all the missiles and hatches and back-mounted stuff. Man, I
loved those things.
> Are there any images of the design or the kit floating about somewheres?
Yeah! Here's a great Mospeada page:
http://www.powerup.com.au/~kath/gcm/
...their mecha section:
http://www.powerup.com.au/~cyclone/mecha.htm
Some models are still available at HLJ; just search for Mospeada.
They were re-released, but at least several months ago.
-- Dave
Dominique Durocher
> ewhard...@home.net (Eric Harding) wrote in message
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> > In article <8c8d434b.01082...@posting.google.com>,
aster...@yahoo.com (Paul Segal) wrote:
> > >
> > >Mospeada had the Alpha fighter, which was basically a Valkyrie, but
> > >sharp-edged instead of smooth.
> >
> >
> > Not anywhere close to basically being a Valkyrie. The lines, shape,
and even
> > transfromation scheme is completely different.
> >
>
> As I remember it, it's got the arms and legs tucked under the fuselage
> in jet mode, it's got the cockpit in the chest and the wings on the
> back in robot mode, and it's got a gerwalk mode. That's close enough
> for me :)
Actually, the arms were over the fuselage and the legs turned sideways
under it (heel to heel). the nose folded over into the back for the
Armo-Soldier mode, so the pilot was hanging in his straps facing the
ground (very uncomfortable I would think). IIRC the other mode were called
armo-fighter and armo-diver (it's been a while). In shape, it's more
comparable to an A-4 (short with delta wings) than the Valkyrie's F-14
look.
Dom
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George Caswell
(Mospeda Legioss, etc.)
> Some models are still available at HLJ; just search for Mospeada.
> They were re-released, but at least several months ago.
>
Thanks! Now, I'm sorely tempted to buy that transforming kit, see if it
brings back any memories... (but... arrrggh, the kit looks so blocky...)
Why is it that there are no transforming VF-1's as good as the 1980s toy?
Somehow they actually did it right when they produced that - nice proportions
in all three modes, transforms and everything... I wish I'd bought one cheap
when I had the chance <sigh>. I may have to get me one of them $12 korean
knockoffs or a beat-up Jetfire as a fixer-upper... I see them on E-bay,
screaming in agony, for want of a good paint job.
Eric Harding
>ewhard...@home.net (Eric Harding) wrote in message
> news:<JMrg7.45292$vW2.19...@news1.sttln1.wa.home.com>...
>> In article <8c8d434b.01082...@posting.google.com>,
> aster...@yahoo.com (Paul Segal) wrote:
>> >
>> >Mospeada had the Alpha fighter, which was basically a Valkyrie, but
>> >sharp-edged instead of smooth.
>>
>>
>> Not anywhere close to basically being a Valkyrie. The lines, shape, and
> even
>> transfromation scheme is completely different.
>>
>
>As I remember it, it's got the arms and legs tucked under the fuselage
>in jet mode, it's got the cockpit in the chest and the wings on the
>back in robot mode, and it's got a gerwalk mode. That's close enough
>for me :)
Armofighter mode:
Arms are the upper pods on the rear of the plane, legs are the engines. main
body becomes the fusalage of the jet, with the head tucked inside it.
Armo-Diver mode:
Legs swing down, Arms rotate and extend out and down. Wings fold down.
Armo-Soldier mode:
Fusealage rotate90 degrees or so, cockpit flips over and into the back of the
mecha, head extends up from what is now the main body.
Or something like that.
None of this silly remove legs, remove nose and replace bit the Valks had. :)
Eric
James C. Nevermann
> None of this silly remove legs, remove nose and replace bit the Valks had. :)
Which was what held me back from purchasing a transformable Valkyrie
kit in the first place. My "suspended disbelief" was un-suspended at
the thought of having to remove parts to transform the kit... UN-like
the Mospeada version.
On the flip side, the [1/60?] transformable Valkyrie toy doesn't
require taking parts off --other than the the one-piece cockpit cover
for the Battroid mode. Of course it's bigger than the 1/100 or 1/72
kits, so there's additional room to incorporate more & sturdier
transforming components. We got our son one for Christmas back in '91
or '92, and I'm still intrigued with the transform process... some
thoughtful design work there.
George Caswell
> On the flip side, the [1/60?] transformable Valkyrie toy doesn't
> require taking parts off --other than the the one-piece cockpit cover
> for the Battroid mode. Of course it's bigger than the 1/100 or 1/72
> kits, so there's additional room to incorporate more & sturdier
> transforming components. We got our son one for Christmas back in '91
> or '92, and I'm still intrigued with the transform process... some
> thoughtful design work there.
>
I am too! Especially by the fact that it not only transforms without
anything being removed, but it looks good in all three modes. The
transformable Bandai 1/100 kit, on the other hand, fails on both counts (have
to remove/replace nose and re-attach legs, -and- it basically looks like butt
in robot mode)... so I'm quite amazed with the old 1/55 Valk toy.
James C. Nevermann
> The transformable Bandai 1/100 kit, on the other hand
Last year I purchased an unbuilt 1/100 Macross II Valkyrie kit, but
will display it only in Gerwalk mode: part of a Gerwalk "family tree"
along with a Macross I regular and rocket booster assisted versions.
Likewise, I also have a 1/200 Gerwalk [as well as Glaug and Spartan]
for size comparison display with my 1/200 Monster.