Divergence Eve
Happyness
tatas piloting lame looking mechs. After five episodes, I still don't
understand anything else about this OVA.
Dave Watson
A: It's a TV series.
B: One of them doesn't have ginormous tatas (or is particularly hot;
then again, she's about 10). And just what's the problem with ginormous
tatas anyway?
C: You're confused in part because, for some reason, the producers
decided to put the second last ep of the original series at the beginning.
D: Wait until you get to the Misaki Chronicles series; that might just
screw your mind in half.
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Happyness
> again, she's about 10). And just what's the problem with ginormous tatas
> anyway?
no problem at all!!!!!
Phil Yff
This is a 13 episode series. The first episode is set chronologically
after the 12th episode and before the 13th. I guess this is a device
intended to whet your appetite and set the atmosphere for things to come.
Does it work? From your perspective, it seems not.
And, yes, it has a lot of fan service.
Mata ato de,
Phil Yff
Phil Yff
> Happyness wrote:
>> 300 years from now humanity will be defended by hot chicks with ginormous
>> tatas piloting lame looking mechs. After five episodes, I still don't
>> understand anything else about this OVA.
>
> A: It's a TV series.
> B: One of them doesn't have ginormous tatas (or is particularly hot;
> then again, she's about 10). And just what's the problem with ginormous
> tatas anyway?
> C: You're confused in part because, for some reason, the producers
> decided to put the second last ep of the original series at the beginning.
> D: Wait until you get to the Misaki Chronicles series; that might just
> screw your mind in half.
This is not a series where mecha go toe to toe with bad guys. Not to
reveal any spoilers, there's a lot of psychological stuff, genetic
engineering backdrop, etc.
Phil Yff
And if you don't understand the series, you can alway enjoy the ending
animation of each episode which is full of fan service. ^-^
Dave Watson
This is true, but it frequently grinds your mental gears if the episode
ends on a very serious or grim note. Plus, it's one of those songs that
sticks in your head when you don't really want it to; I have one fast
soca/highlife song in the CD collection, and that's all that's needed,
isn't it?
Abraham Evangelista
wrote:
Oh, I'd say you understand "Divergence Eve" perfectly. :-)
Actually, believe it or not, there's a perfectly good sci-fi horror
story lurking beneath the surface of this title. And it only gets
more and more tragic as the series progresses. But I'll forgive
anyone who can't see past the breasts to enjoy the show. It's hard to
ignore them when they take up the majority of the screen!
--
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Hide all the goats!" - Lisa, Girl's Bravo, English Dub
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Phil Yff
>> And if you don't understand the series, you can alway enjoy the ending
>> animation of each episode which is full of fan service. ^-^
>
> This is true, but it frequently grinds your mental gears if the episode
> ends on a very serious or grim note. Plus, it's one of those songs that
> sticks in your head when you don't really want it to; I have one fast
> soca/highlife song in the CD collection, and that's all that's needed,
> isn't it?
I was a little tongue in cheek here. You normally associate fan service to
this extent with lighter fare than Divergence Eve. You could understand it
being used judiciously in Divergence Eve as a way to relieve tension
between some of the more intense sequences. Instead, its shoveled at you
and is a distraction from some of the serious thematic elements.
Phil Yff
[snip]
> Actually, believe it or not, there's a perfectly good sci-fi horror
> story lurking beneath the surface of this title. And it only gets
> more and more tragic as the series progresses. But I'll forgive
> anyone who can't see past the breasts to enjoy the show. It's hard to
> ignore them when they take up the majority of the screen!
Agreed. I guess that's the intent of the first episode giving a
foreshadowing of things to come. It's telling you that even though you're
going to get bombarded with fan service that there is a serious theme
somewhere to be found. ^-^
Stainless Steel Rat
"Happyness" <no...@yaright3.com> wrote:
The first four or five episodes are... weak and they earned the show the
derogatory nickname "Divergence Boobs", which you seem to have
discovered indirectly :).
The first episode fits between episodes 12 and 13 chronologically making
most of the series (it's a TV series, not an OAV) a flashback. Each of
the episode openers are also flashbacks filling in the backstory so you
get the flashback within flashback effect. That can get very confusing
if you do not keep track of the dates. It confused me at first but once
I figured it out I decided that I like the technique. I wish they could
have kept that structure with the second season, Misaki Chronicles, but
the first half of the second season doesn't lend itself to flashbacks.
The good news is that you've gotten past the worst of the show.
Starting around episode 5 the gratuitousness of the fanservice subsides.
The boobs don't get any smaller but they aren't so... independently
gravity-defying. That is also the point where the writers buckled down
and wrote a good, character-driven sci-fi/horror story. It feels a lot
like the sci-fi/horror movies of the late 1970s and early 1980s, like
Alien and Saturn 3.
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Stainless Steel Rat
Dave Watson <aj...@fuspamma.freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:
> This is true, but it frequently grinds your mental gears if the episode
> ends on a very serious or grim note. Plus, it's one of those songs that
> sticks in your head when you don't really want it to; I have one fast
Putting unadulterated bubble-gum pop at the end of each episode probably
worked as a pick-me-up when the show was originally broadcast. It
doesn't work so well when you sit down to watch many episodes at once.
Anyway, speaking of music, was a BGM CD ever released? The closest I've
been able to find is the "Pump Up!" single or the Trip Lip CD and those
are Nao Nagasawa song discs, not Divergence Eve BGM.
Ethan Hammond
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> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:15:24 -0700, Happyness wrote:
>
>> 300 years from now humanity will be defended by hot chicks with ginormous
>> tatas piloting lame looking mechs. After five episodes, I still don't
>> understand anything else about this OVA.
>
> This is a 13 episode series. The first episode is set chronologically
> after the 12th episode and before the 13th. I guess this is a device
> intended to whet your appetite and set the atmosphere for things to come.
> Does it work? From your perspective, it seems not.
They wanted to Tarantino it!
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Phil Yff
>> This is a 13 episode series. The first episode is set chronologically
>> after the 12th episode and before the 13th. I guess this is a device
>> intended to whet your appetite and set the atmosphere for things to come.
>> Does it work? From your perspective, it seems not.
>
> They wanted to Tarantino it!
They should have done the first episode in Black and White.
Phil Yff
> Anyway, speaking of music, was a BGM CD ever released? The closest I've
> been able to find is the "Pump Up!" single or the Trip Lip CD and those
> are Nao Nagasawa song discs, not Divergence Eve BGM.
I'm not aware of a BGM CD. Nagasawa also released is single entitled
"XOXOXO (Kiss Kiss Kiss)" with the Divergence Eve theme.
Phil Yff
> The first episode fits between episodes 12 and 13 chronologically making
> most of the series (it's a TV series, not an OAV) a flashback. Each of
> the episode openers are also flashbacks filling in the backstory so you
> get the flashback within flashback effect. That can get very confusing
> if you do not keep track of the dates. It confused me at first but once
> I figured it out I decided that I like the technique. I wish they could
> have kept that structure with the second season, Misaki Chronicles, but
> the first half of the second season doesn't lend itself to flashbacks.
If I'm correct, unlike the first season, ADV has not released Misaki
Chronicles as a box set. I think it's just a matter of time.
Phil Yff
>> been able to find is the "Pump Up!" single or the Trip Lip CD and those
>> are Nao Nagasawa song discs, not Divergence Eve BGM.
>
> I'm not aware of a BGM CD. Nagasawa also released is single entitled
> "XOXOXO (Kiss Kiss Kiss)" with the Divergence Eve theme.
I should have said that Kiss Kiss Kiss is the theme from Misaki Chronicles,
the second Divergence Eve season.
Dave Watson
They're planning to stripbox it, too. I'm planning to tell them to
shove it up until it touches their teeth. I despise stripping on-disc
extras for collections. ADV are essentially telling us that their
extras, which include dub actor commentaries (which are frequently the
only time they're truly funny; Miyazaki knows they aren't when they deal
with Steven Foster's or Lowell Bartholomee's scripts), clean OPs with
the original show logo intact, and the Azumanga Daioh Very Short Movie
are worth as much as, if not more, than the series themselves. OK, I've
made no secret here that I haven't much money, but at least I've bought
their collections when they left the discs alone, which is still better
than people who stick strictly to fansubs and don't buy any legits at
all, because all domestic anime companies are crooks (I'm being
facetious with that last bit, if it's not obvious). Now they've given
me two options, one of which I can't afford, the other of which I don't
want, and they get none of my money anymore. I hope that I and the
others who are holding out as a result eventually cause them so much
damage that they have no choice but to backpedal and come up with some
face-saving measures.
Phil Yff
>>
>> If I'm correct, unlike the first season, ADV has not released Misaki
>> Chronicles as a box set. I think it's just a matter of time.
>
> They're planning to stripbox it, too. I'm planning to tell them to
> shove it up until it touches their teeth. I despise stripping on-disc
> extras for collections. ADV are essentially telling us that their
> extras, which include dub actor commentaries (which are frequently the
> only time they're truly funny; Miyazaki knows they aren't when they deal
> with Steven Foster's or Lowell Bartholomee's scripts), clean OPs with
> the original show logo intact, and the Azumanga Daioh Very Short Movie
> are worth as much as, if not more, than the series themselves. OK, I've
> made no secret here that I haven't much money, but at least I've bought
> their collections when they left the discs alone, which is still better
> than people who stick strictly to fansubs and don't buy any legits at
> all, because all domestic anime companies are crooks (I'm being
> facetious with that last bit, if it's not obvious). Now they've given
> me two options, one of which I can't afford, the other of which I don't
> want, and they get none of my money anymore. I hope that I and the
> others who are holding out as a result eventually cause them so much
> damage that they have no choice but to backpedal and come up with some
> face-saving measures.
Couldn't agree more. I think a box set should always add to the individual
releases. If they do it right, even people who have all the individual
releases might be inclined by the compulsive collectors they are to add the
box set to their library.
Stainless Steel Rat
Phil Yff <phil...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> If I'm correct, unlike the first season, ADV has not released Misaki
> Chronicles as a box set. I think it's just a matter of time.
Not yet, no. I figure that there will be a thinpack release early next
year.
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Phil Yff
> In article <qxqjmo6gw19c.wml7leua3dr4$.d...@40tude.net>,
> Phil Yff <phil...@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> If I'm correct, unlike the first season, ADV has not released Misaki
>> Chronicles as a box set. I think it's just a matter of time.
>
> Not yet, no. I figure that there will be a thinpack release early next
> year.
I can wait. The price on the individual releases is something like $30 for
only three or four episodes.
Stainless Steel Rat
Phil Yff <phil...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> I can wait. The price on the individual releases is something like $30 for
> only three or four episodes.
Four or five actually. ADV did both Divergence Eve and Misaki
Chronicles as 5/4/4 runs rather than the more common 4/3/3/3.
Phil Yff
> In article <mdz4s3rqk83o.1a...@40tude.net>,
> Phil Yff <phil...@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> I can wait. The price on the individual releases is something like $30 for
>> only three or four episodes.
>
> Four or five actually. ADV did both Divergence Eve and Misaki
> Chronicles as 5/4/4 runs rather than the more common 4/3/3/3.
I guess I knew that because there were only three DVDs released per series.
I just didn't take off my shoes to do the math. ^-^
Happyness
Why buy? NetFlix is much better.
Phil Yff
Only problem is they want their DVDs back at some point and I don't want to
give them up. ^-^
Rob Kelk
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:03:15 -0700, "Happyness" <no...@yaright3.com>
wrote:
Only if you don't want any of the extras that get included in the
original DVD boxes. I _like_ those liner notes in the AnimEigo and AN
Entertainment DVD boxes, the pencil boards that Geneon includes with
their DVDs, and so on... YMMV, of course.
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Stainless Steel Rat
"Happyness" <no...@yaright3.com> wrote:
> Why buy? NetFlix is much better.
"Better" is a subjective, relative term.
In other words, why should I put up with hassles like queues and
shipping times when I can take a disc off myself, pop it in my DVD
player and watch what I want when I want? :)
Phil Yff
>
> Only if you don't want any of the extras that get included in the
> original DVD boxes. I _like_ those liner notes in the AnimEigo and AN
> Entertainment DVD boxes, the pencil boards that Geneon includes with
> their DVDs, and so on... YMMV, of course.
I like the liner notes, too. For the series I really like, I go after the
original Japanese and stock up on the extras. The Rurouni Kenshin
laserdisk box sets are hard to beat.
Stainless Steel Rat
rob...@deadspam.com (Rob Kelk) wrote:
> Only if you don't want any of the extras that get included in the
> original DVD boxes. I _like_ those liner notes in the AnimEigo and AN
> Entertainment DVD boxes, the pencil boards that Geneon includes with
> their DVDs, and so on... YMMV, of course.
And T-Shirts, man. T-Shirts!
:)
Pete Zaitcev
For DVDs, U.S. releases are much, much better equipped - and are cheaper.
For example, R2 Azumanga had a very unimpressive sheet of coarse paper
folded in two to serve as DVD booklet, whereas ADV release had fabulous
booklet with character sketches, staff notes and translation notes.
It also had lapel pins, which I quickly unloaded on my daughter.
R2 Kamichu is beautiful, but again Geneon has a pencil board, so
no contest here either.
-- Pete
Captain Nerd
Stainless Steel Rat <rat...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> In article <44c94a74...@news.individual.net>,
> rob...@deadspam.com (Rob Kelk) wrote:
>
> > Only if you don't want any of the extras that get included in the
> > original DVD boxes. I _like_ those liner notes in the AnimEigo and AN
> > Entertainment DVD boxes, the pencil boards that Geneon includes with
> > their DVDs, and so on... YMMV, of course.
>
> And T-Shirts, man. T-Shirts!
> :)
And (from "Hare+Guu") a genuine chest-hair afro wig! ^======^
Cap.
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I cheat. I buy second hand in Akihabara. For various reasons, the
Japanese buy stuff, watch it, and then meticulously repackage it for
the secoond hand market. You can pick up some real bargains.
Happyness
"Stainless Steel Rat" <rat...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:1k0op3-...@peorth.rgo.gweep.net...
> In article <zcqdndsCMMSu21TZ...@centurytel.net>,
> "Happyness" <no...@yaright3.com> wrote:
>
>> Why buy? NetFlix is much better.
>
> "Better" is a subjective, relative term.
>
> In other words, why should I put up with hassles like queues and
> shipping times when I can take a disc off myself, pop it in my DVD
> player and watch what I want when I want? :)
>
No wasted storage space? It's cheaper?
Herbie Garcia
I first saw the trailer to DE on a ADV Films DVD Sampler a few years
back.
I was like huh. Cute girls with huge honkers, with Scifi & Mecha
Elements.
(Wasnt A comedy thats fer sure)
And directed by Hiroshi Negeshi.
(Amazing Nurse Nanako)
So I picked up both seasons.
Gotta say I liked it.
Interesting the first half of season 1 English dub wise was directed by
Carl Macek of Robotech Fame.
(Kira Vincent Davis is great as Misaki)
He left half way & Sandra Krasa (Directed Kaleido Star & Voiced Layla
Hamilton) directed the rest of the first season.
While Scott McClennen
(Directed Hakugei-Legend Of The Moby Dick) directed season 2.(Misaki
Chronicles)
I wish the OST was out.
Pump up! & Kiss Kiss Kiss are addicting songs!
(Besides the first season op wich is catchy)
Hehe
Thats my 2 cents.
HG-The OTAKUMAN
Stainless Steel Rat
Otak...@webtv.net (Herbie Garcia) wrote:
[snip]
> And directed by Hiroshi Negeshi.
> (Amazing Nurse Nanako)
Yeah. That counted among the many reasons why Divergence Eve was
expected to totally suck.
> Interesting the first half of season 1 English dub wise was directed by
> Carl Macek of Robotech Fame.
[snip]
> He left half way & Sandra Krasa (Directed Kaleido Star & Voiced Layla
> Hamilton) directed the rest of the first season.
It makes for a good comparison of Macek vs. others. Based on his work
on Dunbine and especially Divergence Eve I've decided that while Macek
isn't a bad ADR director he isn't a good one either.
Derek Janssen
>
>>Interesting the first half of season 1 English dub wise was directed by
>>Carl Macek of Robotech Fame.
>
>>Hamilton) directed the rest of the first season.
>
> It makes for a good comparison of Macek vs. others. Based on his work
> on Dunbine and especially Divergence Eve I've decided that while Macek
> isn't a bad ADR director he isn't a good one either.
Dunbine's good enough evidence that Carl Macek's not a bad ADR director
provided he works for somebody ELSE...
Exhibit B, the JAL Ghibli dubs.
(It was when he tried make himself the Creation God of US Anime that all
the trouble started.)
Derek Janssen
eja...@comcast.net
Phil Yff
> Interesting the first half of season 1 English dub wise was directed by
> Carl Macek of Robotech Fame.
Or infamy.
Stainless Steel Rat
"Happyness" <no...@yaright3.com> wrote:
> No wasted storage space? It's cheaper?
I can't legally make copies for my PSP.