Good Anime. Bad Ending.
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note. I'm talking about
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Gantz. The "non-ending" ending just left me cold.
S-cry-ed. Did they really need that last "fightin' fools" episode?
Gasaraki. The ending just fizzles off into metaphysical la la land.
What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
act?
makku
In before every anime series ever made.;)
Seriously:
Mahoromatic.
Air.
Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou.
Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Full Metal Alchemist. (wtf nazis?)
Phillip Thorne
>Sometimes, an Anime will be humming along nicely, then end on a sour
>note. I'm talking about
>Anime like:
(If you've reached this point in the thread, you should have noticed
the spoiler space.)
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>Gasaraki. The ending just fizzles off into metaphysical la la land.
In that respect, one of many "Evangelion" copycats: it gets all
conspiracy-ish and deep-historical-mystery-ish, then forgets to
provide clues over a sufficient timeframe. Instead, they're all
delivered at the end. IT'S ALIENS! (What is this, "ST:TOS:The Lights
of Zetar"?)
(In contrast, the end of "RahXephon" is fairly comprehensible, and
certainly happy; but some of the how'd-we-get-here? is insufficiently
explained.)
>What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
>act?
The movie "Arrivederci Yamato" had a non-ending (the Comet Empire just
leaves? _Yamato_ follows? do they blow up, or what?); but then, it had
serious plotting problems throughout.
The second season of "Star Blazers" (I don't know if SBY was any
different) ended well, but abrubtly. Trelaina slags Zordar and his
ship, saving _Argo_, Wildstar and Nova (and Venture). (And the green
and pure Earth.) Then... no celebration, no denouement, no sigh of
relief; just end-credits. (Does it count as a /deus ex machina/ if it
followed Chekhov's rule about being hung on the wall?)
"The Big O" ended ambiguously. It had become obvious that Paradigm
City wasn't what it appeared, but exactly what it *was* (a holodeck
the size of Long Island? A consensual virtual reality with a
"Matrix"-style reboot-safety valve?), and who had put Angel and Roger
into their roles, was not explained. Made more sense than
"Evangelion's" end IMHO, but still wasn't fully satisfying.
The fourth "Vampire Hunter D" novel, _Tale of the Dead Town_, just
*ends*. A couple of the protagonists -- at least I think they're
meant to be protagonists; at points Dr.Tsurugi's motivations are
unclear -- survive; and D just leaves without a word, as is his wont;
but everybody else dies. Or turns into vampires. And wander off.
There was no sense of *closure*, and insufficient "why should I care
about these characters?" during the plot. The villains are kinda
weak, and we don't even know who they *are* until late in the book.
Not the best of the five novels that have thus far been translated,
IMHO.
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s-CRAP-ed was a complete waste of time for its entire 26 episodes. The final
episode just reinforces the "GET A ROOM!" relationship between Kazuma and
RyuHO.
> What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
> act?
It's easier to ask what anime have *satisfying* endings than to ask which
ones blow it at the end. Too many of them just have really shitty endings.
Off the top of my head:
- The Big O. Reset endings FAIL.
- Suzuka. After slogging through 20+ episodes of the two main characters
internal-monologuing and angsting, and the male protagonist repeatedly
trying to get over his own stupid stalkerism and actually try to do the
whole track thing properly, the ending...well, it just stunk on every level.
I can't decide which stunk worse--the failure at the track meet, or Suzuka's
whole creepy dead-boyfriend thing.
- Neon Genesis Evangelion. The most infamously bad ending in anime history.
- R.O.D the TV. A whole lot of the ending of this otherwise excellent series
had a distinct "pulled out of ass" feel to it.
- Ai Yori Aoshi. Neither of the anime series of this really got a closure
ending. Though, to be fair, the manga ending is really, really pathetic too.
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> > act?
....Nazis were World War *II*, jerkass. The whole London thing in FMA is
World War *I*.
Yes, CoS references the Thule Society and a whole bunch of shit that
contributed to World War II, but the actual timeframe of the ending of FMA
and the movie is set well before 1930.
Relic
Well, even though the Nazi Party are well-connected to WWII, they
actually started in 1919. The events mentioned in FMA the Movie are
built around the infamous Beer Hall Putsch, which took place in
1923. After the failure of the Putsch, the leaders were arrested,
and Hitler spent something like 9 months or so in prison, giving
him time to write Mein Kampf.
>
> Yes, CoS references the Thule Society and a whole bunch of shit that
> contributed to World War II, but the actual timeframe of the ending of FMA
> and the movie is set well before 1930.
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_Trigun_. So, they're just gonna... what, put Knives in jail? Or what?
The ending to _Wolf's Rain_ bothered me so much, it made me retroactively
hate the whole series.
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Henry J Cobb
> Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Has any other anime had so many bad endings?
Especially once you start counting the director's cut versions.
At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
ends anything.
It's the perfect way to avoid unpleasant endings. Simply continue the
story until the kids are all asleep and then quietly leave the room.
-HJC
Chika
> Has any other anime had so many bad endings?
So many. I think I'd agree with an awful lot of those that have already
been posted, especially Eva.
> Especially once you start counting the director's cut versions.
> At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> ends anything.
Takahashi is hardly the only person to do that, though my view is that she
often has really good ideas for starting but hardly ever cleanly thinks it
through to the end, often bogging herself down in a creative rut before
just killing the whole thing off in a rather lame fashion. The only series
I was ever satisfied with was MI; other than that, I prefer her short
stories when it comes to imaginative endings. Much as I like UY or Ranma
(the jury is still out on IY), I could never come to terms with their
endings.
Of course, there are those series that are ended prematurely due to lack
of support or funds or whatever.
> It's the perfect way to avoid unpleasant endings. Simply continue the
> story until the kids are all asleep and then quietly leave the room.
Damn! Somebody worked it out! ^_^;
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Kiyotaka? Two major questions of the series, and neither are answered.
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laurie
Oliver (Caged Horse)
> At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> ends anything.
Amen to that, ad infinitum!
Twasc
> What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
> act?
>
Martian Sucessor Nadesico.
Stephane Dumas
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the ending of UFO Robot Grendizer (Goldorak/Goldrake/Grandizer) fell flat,
with King Vega trying to do an ultimate invasion of Earth in some weird
saucer instead of giving a big fight with 2-3 saucer animals like
Hydargos/Blacky did in episodes 26-27. Then Actarus (Duke Fleed) and
Phenicia (Maria) returned to their native planet. They should had bring
Alcor (Koji) and Venusia (Hikaru) with them.
A not good ending but not too bad either, it should had been more action
tough.
Stéphane Dumas
bobbie sellers
Never seen the 98th episode of Maison Ikkoku?
Each of the Mermaid stories ends that episode of a tale
of immortal characters. The Anthology stories all seem to
conclude in satifactory fashion. The kid's stories are hard
to bring to a conclusion because the kids never want the
story to end.
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Fish Eye no Miko
> Spiral -- So what are those damned Blade Children anyway? And
> where's Kiyotaka? Two major questions of the series, and neither
> are answered.
I watched the first... 3? 4? volumes of the series, then realized I
really didn't care too much (That sounds like a lot, and it is; but since I
can rent 2 DVDs for $2.00 at my local anime store, it's not as much of an
investment as it may sound like). I WAS gonna just skip to the last one
just to see how it wrapped up, but then I heard that nothing really gets
resolved, so screw it.
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There's something about that series I really like, but the ending isn't it.
I think that what I like is that the series focuses on fighting with the
intellect rather than the body. It's a shonen series about characters trying
to outwit each other rather than outmuscle each other. I also like the
balance in the two leads between Ayumu's depressive intellect and Hiyono's
bubbly curiosity. That's a male-female couple that really works for me.
laurie
eomdal
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> S-cry-ed. Did they really need that last "fightin' fools" episode?
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> Gasaraki. The ending just fizzles off into metaphysical la la land.
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> What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
> act?
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Last Exile. It's as if they forgot that a story even_needs_an ending.
It was rushed, cobbled together, lacking in vital exposition, and was
pretty callous in the way it dealt with the death of an important
character, (Dio) in that it didn't deal with it at all. Inexplacably
bringing Mullin back from the dead after it was clearly implied that
he_was_dead was also one of the worst ending scenes ever. The fact that
this was such a great series up until the end only makes it worse.
Wolf's Rain. There's not much to be said because there wasn't much
there.
NGE has been discussed to death in this group and elsewhere, so I'll
just include it because it would be strange to omit it.
I'd like to post a follow-up queston: What anime endings have gotten a
bad rap but which you think are good, or at least understandable?
The Big O. Roger Smith took the blue pill, end of story.
Trigun. Pacificim is_not_a loosing propisition, and Knives will have
his eyes opened to hummanity's one reedeming quality that he lacks:
mercy.
Lain, Paranoia Agent, and Gantz: These series were mindf***s from start
to finish, so their endings would be bad if they_did_make sense.
Samuari Champloo. Some people have complained that "Well, see ya" was a
weak ending but I think that it was perfect.
eomdal
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> S-cry-ed. Did they really need that last "fightin' fools" episode?
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> What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
> act?
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Derek Janssen
>>Gantz. The "non-ending" ending just left me cold.
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>>S-cry-ed. Did they really need that last "fightin' fools" episode?
>>
>>Gasaraki. The ending just fizzles off into metaphysical la la land.
>>
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>>What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
>>act?
(I think we can assume that "Video Girl Ai" pretty much OWNS this
category?...)
> I'd like to post a follow-up queston: What anime endings have gotten a
> bad rap but which you think are good, or at least understandable?
Cowboy Bebop: You take "...Bang", I'll take fired TV-host Punch
deciding to retire and take care of his sweet old mother...
xxxHolic: Tacked-on (and possibly premature), but perfect. And umm,
yeah, guess we can assume Himawari *isn't* a ghost, after all. By default.
UY: They were just recycling all the "unused" early Rumiko manga
stories by the last season, and the Amaterasu-festival story was just
one off the shelf...But Yamazaki sets it up as if it's some mysterious
turn of fate/gods, so having all the one-shots show up for a reunion,
and chaos to triumph, just brings it home.
Azumanga Daioh: Everyone else got their fate, good and bad, but somehow
it was just appropriate for Yukari to walk off saying "Like I care, guys!"
Derek Janssen
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Well that is fine for UY and Ranma, butttttttttttttttttttttttt!
What about Maison?
Lee Ratner
Ethan Hammond wrote:
> "Henry J Cobb" <hc...@io.com> wrote in message
> news:XNGdnfUVlqIOlKfY...@io.com...
> > makku wrote:
> >> Neon Genesis Evangelion.
> >
> > Has any other anime had so many bad endings?
> >
> > Especially once you start counting the director's cut versions.
> >
> > At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> > ends anything.
> >
> > It's the perfect way to avoid unpleasant endings. Simply continue the
> > story until the kids are all asleep and then quietly leave the room.
>
> Well that is fine for UY and Ranma, butttttttttttttttttttttttt!
> What about Maison?
>
ending. My brother had a theory that Takahashi never really meant the
P.S. Ikkoku chapter to be the ending and wanted the graveyard scene to
be the end. He thinks she was pressured to give it an ending with more
closure by her editors.
Henry J Cobb
>>ends anything.
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>>It's the perfect way to avoid unpleasant endings. Simply continue the
>>story until the kids are all asleep and then quietly leave the room.
>
> Well that is fine for UY and Ranma, butttttttttttttttttttttttt!
> What about Maison?
Are you saying that it had a bad ending that hurt the overall series?
Compare it to the fizzle ending of the Gakuen Alice anime.
The Alice Academy dub is coming back on the air Tuesday, if you need to
refresh on that.
http://www.animax-sa.com/synopsis/default.asp?pid=185
-HJC
Grimm-RHD
> makku wrote:
> > Neon Genesis Evangelion.
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> Has any other anime had so many bad endings?
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> Especially once you start counting the director's cut versions.
>
> At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> ends anything.
The thing with Rumiko...(especially in the case of Inuyasha and Ranma
1/2), is that the animators just run out of patience for an ending.
Grimm-RHD
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> Well that is fine for UY and Ranma, butttttttttttttttttttttttt!
> What about Maison?
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> Gantz. The "non-ending" ending just left me cold.
The manga is still going, so I think that's what happened. But yeah..
it's like: "Is that it??"
> What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
> act?
Kiddy Grade. >_<;
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bobbie sellers
> Henry J Cobb wrote:
> > makku wrote:
> > > Neon Genesis Evangelion.
> >
> > Has any other anime had so many bad endings?
> >
> > Especially once you start counting the director's cut versions.
> >
> > At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> > ends anything.
>
> The thing with Rumiko...(especially in the case of Inuyasha and Ranma
> 1/2), is that the animators just run out of patience for an ending.
>
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> Grimm-RHD
More likely that the anime fans get tired of the same old iterations
and the the anime programmers get tired of showing less and less popular
shows. The licencees producing UY merchandise get tired of it not moving
off their shelves. The animators(wage slaves) would likely be happier
drawing other characters for a change but if they quit they would just
be replaced by a fresh crew fresh off the doujinshi circuit and all
ready & estactic to have a "job in the Industry".
Grimm-RHD
> > > ends anything.
> >
> > The thing with Rumiko...(especially in the case of Inuyasha and Ranma
> > 1/2), is that the animators just run out of patience for an ending.
> >
> >
> > Grimm-RHD
>
> More likely that the anime fans get tired of the same old iterations
> and the the anime programmers get tired of showing less and less popular
> shows. The licencees producing UY merchandise get tired of it not moving
> off their shelves. The animators(wage slaves) would likely be happier
> drawing other characters for a change but if they quit they would just
> be replaced by a fresh crew fresh off the doujinshi circuit and all
> ready & estactic to have a "job in the Industry".
Well to be honest that's how I heard Inuyasha ended. The animators got
tired of waiting for Rumiko to end the series. They wanted to move on
to something else...and did.
Damien Sullivan
>What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the last
>act?
I suspect I'm griping about a higher class of endings.
Noein. The ending felt good, but later my brain kicked in: "hey, they
never explained what the Dragon Torque was or where it came from or how
they all knew about it..."
Scrapped Princess. Felt good, and more was explained, but I've got two
things. One is "hey, what about those aliens, think they'll notice the
box coming down?" The other is that scene of a section of the planet
being inserted into a 5000 year old hole. Even with all the clarketech
in the show that makes me claw my geologist eyes out. OTOH it's easy to
completely ignore, and just tell myself a continent was boxed in and
that's it.
Magical Girl Squad Alice: 20 episode series. We suspect they ran out
of money.
I remember having some objection Witch Hunter Robin but not what it was.
Possibly just me being picky about explanations.
I did wonder if some people would think the ending of the first story
arc in Juuni Kokki was too rushed, jumping over the good bits of
battles. I've read the novel fanlations though and if anything the
anime padded out the ending a bit. And it makes sense given the
premises: one Youko decided to go for the throne, with the backing of En
and early liberation of Keiki, it was all over. Having big battle
scenes would have been false tension, given that most of the army would
surrender at the sight of Keiki kneeling. But it was a dense series and
someone might have missed the overall view.
-xx- Damien X-)
Phil Yff
I already posted about the disappointing ending of .hack//Roots.
Escaflowne is one of many anime that was really good and seemed to get more
intense as it went along. Then they tried to cram too many things in the
ending, rushed things along, and the whole thing fell flat.
Mata ato de,
Phil Yff
ender
> Escaflowne is one of many anime that was really good and seemed to get more
> intense as it went along. Then they tried to cram too many things in the
> ending, rushed things along, and the whole thing fell flat.
I've read somewhere that Escaflowne was originally planned for 39 episodes.
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bobbie sellers wrote:
> On 21 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0700,"Oliver (Caged Horse)", wrote
>
> > Henry J Cobb wrote:
> > > At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> > > ends anything.
> >
> > Amen to that, ad infinitum!
>
> Never seen the 98th episode of Maison Ikkoku?
I don't believe I have, isn't it a 96 episode series?
Hand-of-Omega
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...Here it was, unpredictable series building up to such a nice, tragic
finish, when BOOM! They pull the ultimate Deus Ex Machina to suddenly
change all the rules. I don't think I've ever seen an anime bend over
so far backward to force a happy ending on us.
The first season of Sailor Moon had a similar ending, but there was
still a sense of consequence and loss (which was undone by the next
season, but works for the first one). Bringing everyone back from the
dead like that was just lame.
And the fact that certain characters flipped out and tried to murder
the other heroines? Glossed over with a simple "Sorry bout that!" and a
pratfall. Bad, bad, bad.
In the middle of Mai Otome now. Hope that's better ended than Hime
was...
Dex
Antonio E. Gonzalez
>> Gantz. The "non-ending" ending just left me cold.
>> S-cry-ed. Did they really need that last "fightin' fools" episode?
>> Gasaraki. The ending just fizzles off into metaphysical la la land.
>> What other Anime move along nicely, just to drop the ball in the
>> last act?
>
>_Trigun_. So, they're just gonna... what, put Knives in jail? Or what?
Well, this *was* Vash, so killing wasn't gonna be an option . . .
>The ending to _Wolf's Rain_ bothered me so much, it made me retroactively
>hate the whole series.
>
Anything in particular, or just the whole "ultimate reset button"
aspect of it?
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"Tenchi Universe". Ryoko's death episode made for some moving drama.
Everyone seems to be assuming new separate lives...But in the end Ryoko's
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felt so cheated; the ending totally ruined "Tenchi Universe" for me.
I'm telling you the dead-than-alive cheat is the worst cheat you can
pull. I pretty much can't stand it no matter what show uses it. "YuYu
Hakushu" was an annoying example that stood in my mind.
I agree with Fish Eye about the ending of "Wolf's Rain". All that
effort to rebirth the world, and all we get is rainy Tokyo. :-P
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> bobbie sellers wrote:
> > On 21 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0700,"Oliver (Caged Horse)", wrote
> >
> > > Henry J Cobb wrote:
> > > > At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> > > > ends anything.
> > >
> > > Amen to that, ad infinitum!
> >
> > Never seen the 98th episode of Maison Ikkoku?
>
> I don't believe I have, isn't it a 96 episode series?
>
It's a secret episode you have to unlock on the DVD.
Laters. =)
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> bobbie sellers wrote:
> > On 21 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0700,"Oliver (Caged Horse)", wrote
> >
> > > Henry J Cobb wrote:
> > > > At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> > > > ends anything.
> > >
> > > Amen to that, ad infinitum!
> >
> > Never seen the 98th episode of Maison Ikkoku?
>
> I don't believe I have, isn't it a 96 episode series?
You are correct and caught my dyspraxia in action.
Phil Yff
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:31:01 -0400, Phil Yff wrote:
>
>> Escaflowne is one of many anime that was really good and seemed to get more
>> intense as it went along. Then they tried to cram too many things in the
>> ending, rushed things along, and the whole thing fell flat.
>
> I've read somewhere that Escaflowne was originally planned for 39 episodes.
That would certainly make sense and explain why the pace of the story
changes so suddenly near the end. Since 26 episodes is considered a full
season maybe the producers couldn't get the approval for another half a
season.
Phil Yff
The only time I can think of a world reboot ending working is in Melancholy
of Haruhi because it was actually part of the plot. Usually it's just a
cop out so the writers don't have to resolve the plot conflicts
legitimately. Everyone comes back to life. Good guy become bad guys.
Etc.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
bobbie sellers
> 24 Oct 2006 8:13am-0700, CAH <cmco...@aol.com>:
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> > bobbie sellers wrote:
> > > On 21 Oct 2006 07:01:58 -0700,"Oliver (Caged Horse)", wrote
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> > > > Henry J Cobb wrote:
> > > > > At least Rumiko never gives us a bad ending, because she never cleanly
> > > > > ends anything.
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> > > > Amen to that, ad infinitum!
> > >
> > > Never seen the 98th episode of Maison Ikkoku?
> >
> > I don't believe I have, isn't it a 96 episode series?
> >
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> It's a secret episode you have to unlock on the DVD.
>
> Laters. =)
>
> Stan
Oh yeah I mis-typed and you make a production of it.
I couldn't coordinate well enough to find the secret messages
on the Commodore 64, 128 or on Amiga OS diskettes so I doubt
I would find anything on the MI box set #8 volume 3 besides
the last four episodes.
Jorge A Pratt
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> of Haruhi because it was actually part of the plot.
RahXephon too, at least the TV series, because that's the entire point of
the actual Aztec myth it was based on. Shame the movie dropped the ball like
that.
Jorge A. Pratt
Alex Taylor
> Sometimes, an Anime will be humming along nicely, then end on a sour
> note.
I just finished "Magical Canan" (the magical girl TV series, not to be
confused with the hentai OAV "Magical Kanan").
I thought it was a fairly cute show, if not terribly original. Character
designs by Akio Watanabe (a.k.a. Poyoyon Rock of "Nurse Witch Komugi" and
"Popotan" fame). The plot started out rather tritely, but started to get
kind of intruiging as the show went on.
Alas, the ending itself was utter garbage. Not only was it contrived
and clichＦd, but -- this is what really pisses me off -- the conclusion
did not explain, answer, or (for the most part) even bother to MENTION
any of the key mysteries that the storyline had spent the entire series
setting up.
SPOILER SPACE
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Mysteries like:
* Did Bergamot really steal the seeds in the first place? If so, was
it really on Fennel's orders? Why would he have been working for
Fennel?
* What was Bergamot's actual plan? It can't have been what finally
happened, because he went to such efforts to try and PREVENT Carmein
from fighting Fennel.
* And, speaking of which, where the hell did Bergamot disappear to?
(Conveniently, just in time for Carmein to fight the final battle.)
Then he reappears briefly at the very end, just to say "well done,
gotta go", and disappears again.
* What WAS Septem, really? (And why did she look just like Chihaya's
mother?) The only thing we get on this one is someone saying she's
"like Calendula". But then, for that matter, what was Calendula
really? (Incidentally, Septem really got the shaft, didn't she?)
* What was it that Bergamot was so afraid Tsuyuha would do to Chihaya,
that he was willing to be locked up for years? If anything, Tsuyuha
seems rather fond of Chihaya, and secretly helps her.
Perhaps I should have paid more attention to the warning signs... For one
thing, the series showed evidence of being produced on the cheap. Before
episode 10 there wasn't even OP or ED animation -- the opening was just a
series of random clips from the show, and the ending was simply static
images lifted from the character model sheets, set to flashing lights.
(They finally gave us proper OP and ED animation around episode 10/11;
this in a 13-episode series.)
Now I almost feel like I want 13 episodes' worth of my life back again.
THIS is what I put off watching "Haruhi Suzumiya" for?!
--
Alex Taylor
http://www.cs-club.org/~alex
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