Sorry for the OT posting, I've been out of work for two months now, and unemployment is just barely covering my rent and some bills, I need to unload some of my anime and manga***. Details posted on rec.arts.anime.marketplace.
Cap. (... *** My God, it's like I'm a human anime company! >__< ...)
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Captain Nerd <cptn...@nerdwatch.com> wrote in news:cptnerd- EFE162.01142320052...@news.giganews.com:
> Sorry for the OT posting, I've been out of work for two months now, > and unemployment is just barely covering my rent and some bills, > I need to unload some of my anime and manga***. Details posted on > rec.arts.anime.marketplace.
What kind of job are you looking for, out of curiosity?
I'm sure you know about the 'hidden job market' (aka 90% of the job that are out there are not advertised)
Signed, Warewolf who is looking for work in his area, as well ^_^;
In article <Xns9AA45FDF887warewolfshawm...@24.64.223.211>,
Warewolf <warewolfmypa...@shaw.ca> wrote: > Captain Nerd <cptn...@nerdwatch.com> wrote in news:cptnerd- > EFE162.01142320052...@news.giganews.com:
> > Sorry for the OT posting, I've been out of work for two months now, > > and unemployment is just barely covering my rent and some bills, > > I need to unload some of my anime and manga***. Details posted on > > rec.arts.anime.marketplace.
> What kind of job are you looking for, out of curiosity?
Software development, that doesn't require Java, C#, .NET, or ASP. I only know C, C++, Perl, shell, SQL and other 20+ year old tech that I've been writing for 20+ years...
> I'm sure you know about the 'hidden job market' (aka 90% of the job that > are out there are not advertised)
Well, they're doing a swell job of hiding from me, I'll give you that. The ones that are advertised seem to be in autistic mode, they seldom respond even when I match their requirements, and of the ones that do respond, either the job isn't exactly what they advertise, or else I'm too old, er, I mean, "too expensive". It looks like rates for senior developers have dropped $15/hour in the past year or so. At that rate, McDonalds will be paying more for burger-flippers than companies will pay for software people.
> Signed, > Warewolf > who is looking for work in his area, as well ^_^;
Getting ready to make up the cardboard sign that says "will code for money" and go stand on the street corner...
Cap.
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On May 20, 10:01 am, Captain Nerd <cptn...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
> Software development, that doesn't require Java, C#, .NET, or ASP. > I only know C, C++, Perl, shell, SQL and other 20+ year old tech > that I've been writing for 20+ years...
Post your resume on Monster.com and Workopolis. Recruiters actively scour the posted resumes especially for legacy skills such as yours. The downside is you'll have to deal with recruiters, but if you're batting .000 this may be the best choice.
I have a friend who used to be an IT recruiter, and he told me how the business actually works.
In article <7ef17d68-0a9b-47fe-9c0f-d2e4bd0b5...@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, Travers Naran <tna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 10:01 am, Captain Nerd <cptn...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
> > Software development, that doesn't require Java, C#, .NET, or ASP. > > I only know C, C++, Perl, shell, SQL and other 20+ year old tech > > that I've been writing for 20+ years...
> Post your resume on Monster.com and Workopolis. Recruiters actively > scour the posted resumes especially for legacy skills such as yours. > The downside is you'll have to deal with recruiters, but if you're > batting .000 this may be the best choice.
Already posted on Monster, Dice.com, and Careerbuilder, along with a couple of smaller sites. I get single calls, send in the "most recent copy(? wtf?)" of my resume, and then silence. The few times I try to follow up, I leave unreturned messages.
> I have a friend who used to be an IT recruiter, and he told me how the > business actually works.
I think it's changing, and not for the better.
Cap.
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> Sorry for the OT posting, I've been out of work for two months now, > and unemployment is just barely covering my rent and some bills, > I need to unload some of my anime and manga***. Details posted on > rec.arts.anime.marketplace.
> Cap. > (... *** My God, it's like I'm a human anime company! >__< ...)
I read your other reply, and unfortunately it does seem like all the experience we worked for doesn't really mean much to the modern job market. After the store I worked at for 13 years shut down I had both associate and management (as well as computer) experience under my belt on the retail level, and had the results to prove it. After 2 years of looking and interviews, it pretty much dawned on me that the stores were not looking for experience, they were looking for younger people that they could pay less to, and wouldn't need medical coverage. In the end, I scaled back a bit and started to fix other people's computers, as well as refurb cheap computers, and sell them for a profit. It doesn't pay as well as what I'd make if my old store was still open, but otoh I'm not on the street either.
> > Sorry for the OT posting, I've been out of work for two months now, > > and unemployment is just barely covering my rent and some bills, > > I need to unload some of my anime and manga***. Details posted on > > rec.arts.anime.marketplace.
> > Cap. > > (... *** My God, it's like I'm a human anime company! >__< ...)
> I read your other reply, and unfortunately it does seem like all the > experience we worked for doesn't really mean much to the modern job > market. After the store I worked at for 13 years shut down I had > both associate and management (as well as computer) experience > under my belt on the retail level, and had the results to prove > it. > After 2 years of looking and interviews, it pretty much dawned > on me that the stores were not looking for experience, they > were looking for younger people that they could pay less to, > and wouldn't need medical coverage. In the end, I scaled back > a bit and started to fix other people's computers, as well as > refurb cheap computers, and sell them for a profit. It doesn't > pay as well as what I'd make if my old store was still open, > but otoh I'm not on the street either.
> So hang in there.
Yeah, that's about what I'm seeing, too. I get the strange email offers, too, the ones that want me to give them my cell phone and provider information before they'll let me apply. And the ones that just make no sense, like working as a sysadmin in El Segundo for $25/hour. I think the cost of living there is a little steep for that rate, and I can get higher than that here in the DC area (provided I could get hired). I've seen more listings in the past week, at least more places to be ignored by...
Cap.
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> In article <_bFYj.1974$BL6....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>, > Relic <relic1...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> Captain Nerd wrote:
>> > Sorry for the OT posting, I've been out of work for two months now, >> > and unemployment is just barely covering my rent and some bills, >> > I need to unload some of my anime and manga***. Details posted on >> > rec.arts.anime.marketplace.
>> > Cap. >> > (... *** My God, it's like I'm a human anime company! >__< ...)
>> I read your other reply, and unfortunately it does seem like all the >> experience we worked for doesn't really mean much to the modern job >> market. After the store I worked at for 13 years shut down I had >> both associate and management (as well as computer) experience >> under my belt on the retail level, and had the results to prove >> it. >> After 2 years of looking and interviews, it pretty much dawned >> on me that the stores were not looking for experience, they >> were looking for younger people that they could pay less to, >> and wouldn't need medical coverage. In the end, I scaled back >> a bit and started to fix other people's computers, as well as >> refurb cheap computers, and sell them for a profit. It doesn't >> pay as well as what I'd make if my old store was still open, >> but otoh I'm not on the street either.
>> So hang in there.
> Yeah, that's about what I'm seeing, too. I get the strange email > offers, too, the ones that want me to give them my cell phone > and provider information before they'll let me apply. And the > ones that just make no sense, like working as a sysadmin in > El Segundo for $25/hour. I think the cost of living there is > a little steep for that rate, and I can get higher than that here > in the DC area (provided I could get hired). I've seen more > listings in the past week, at least more places to be ignored > by...
> Cap.
Yeah, it was getting nothing except that kind of come on that led to my taking my info off Monster and not going back. Most of mine were 'headhunters' that guaranteed me placement, but required an 'upfront' fee before they'd do anything. Which is illegal for them to do here in Texas, but since none of them sent email from within the state, they were untouchable. I still have an 'employer', the staffing company that I've spent the last year and a half doing mechanical assembly for. Since that was the last straw for my back (no particular incident, just culmative) I can't go back to it. They do office placements also, which is what all my experience is in anyway - but now, I don't have 'recent', (last six month) experience, so it's unlikely any of their clients will want me... But, it has nothing to do with my having a back condition, being 50 +, or being experienced (= wanting to be paid for knowing how to do it right the first time, instead of willing to accept $7 but needing to do everything several times before it's correct - oh, wait, that's age discrimination, isn't it, I'm not allowed to do that...) (Lum, could I have five minutes inclusion in your Beautiful Dream reality?)
>>Captain Nerd <cptn...@nerdwatch.com> wrote in news:cptnerd- >>EFE162.01142320052...@news.giganews.com:
>>> Sorry for the OT posting, I've been out of work for two months now, >>> and unemployment is just barely covering my rent and some bills, >>> I need to unload some of my anime and manga***. Details posted on >>> rec.arts.anime.marketplace.
>>What kind of job are you looking for, out of curiosity?
> Software development, that doesn't require Java, C#, .NET, or ASP. > I only know C, C++, Perl, shell, SQL and other 20+ year old tech > that I've been writing for 20+ years...
Sounds good for me. But where are you, and what's your pay needs, and are you willing to move? Usually those are the killer questions. Obviously my boss wants people who are living gods of coding and will work for minimum wage, and will relocate immediately.
> >>Captain Nerd <cptn...@nerdwatch.com> wrote in news:cptnerd- > >>EFE162.01142320052...@news.giganews.com:
> >>> Sorry for the OT posting, I've been out of work for two months now, > >>> and unemployment is just barely covering my rent and some bills, > >>> I need to unload some of my anime and manga***. Details posted on > >>> rec.arts.anime.marketplace.
> >>What kind of job are you looking for, out of curiosity?
> > Software development, that doesn't require Java, C#, .NET, or ASP. > > I only know C, C++, Perl, shell, SQL and other 20+ year old tech > > that I've been writing for 20+ years...
> Sounds good for me. But where are you, and what's your pay needs, and > are you willing to move? Usually those are the killer questions. > Obviously my boss wants people who are living gods of coding and will > work for minimum wage, and will relocate immediately.
I'm in the DC metro area, which has an (official) unemployment rate of 2.8 or so, at least on the Virginia side of the Potomac. My rate has been dropping since 2000, every contract and every job is paying less per hour or per year, which means pretty soon I will be making exactly what I was making when I graduated 25 years ago, adjusted for inflation. I can't tell you how pleased I am by my "progress"...
Cap.
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They're going to kill off the middle class and make a new slave class in a new America.
What you say, Relic, is absolutely right... Companies have chosen profit over people, and will not pay American workers a necessary wage to have a reasoned life.
