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Arne Luft
May 8, 2012, 6:45:28 AM5/8/12
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Is there somewhere a temple or shrine, where I can grieve about the
end of one or the other manga, which I like, but ended with some
unfinished business?
dbbrndll
May 8, 2012, 2:22:16 PM5/8/12
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someplace...
DBB
Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
May 8, 2012, 3:21:17 PM5/8/12
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cu
59cobalt
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Magewolf
May 8, 2012, 4:42:21 PM5/8/12
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with a sequel picking up right at the stopping point.
Stainless Steel Rat
May 8, 2012, 5:02:22 PM5/8/12
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Part two of a series as Claymore ends abruptly right after Negima!. Manga
creators apparently are terminating their works early over a copyright
treaty that Japanese publisher are pushing. This law, the Trans-Pacific
Partnership (TPP), would grant publishers like Kodansha "equal" copyright
to the works they publish.
Kodansha claims that this would streamline continuing publication such as
electronic editions. New rights would not need to be negotiated with the
creators. Kodansha also claims that the law would permit them to pursue
copyright infringers (pirates).
Ken Akamatsu, Negima!'s creator, counters that neither require new
treaties. He further states that the real reasons that Kodansha is behind
this law is a) to cut creators out of the licensing process and b) to shut
down doujinshi sites like PIXIV. Kodansha hate PIXIV and have been
looking for ways to get it shut down. The problem is that Akamatsu, among
others, have granted permission for doujinshi authors to create derivative
works and publish them. If Japan signs the treaty then publishers like
Kodansha will be able to do what they want regardless of the creators'
wishes.
Expect more manga to be terminated early or abruptly as more mangaka
protest this treaty and the behaviour of their publishers.
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creators apparently are terminating their works early over a copyright
treaty that Japanese publisher are pushing. This law, the Trans-Pacific
Partnership (TPP), would grant publishers like Kodansha "equal" copyright
to the works they publish.
Kodansha claims that this would streamline continuing publication such as
electronic editions. New rights would not need to be negotiated with the
creators. Kodansha also claims that the law would permit them to pursue
copyright infringers (pirates).
Ken Akamatsu, Negima!'s creator, counters that neither require new
treaties. He further states that the real reasons that Kodansha is behind
this law is a) to cut creators out of the licensing process and b) to shut
down doujinshi sites like PIXIV. Kodansha hate PIXIV and have been
looking for ways to get it shut down. The problem is that Akamatsu, among
others, have granted permission for doujinshi authors to create derivative
works and publish them. If Japan signs the treaty then publishers like
Kodansha will be able to do what they want regardless of the creators'
wishes.
Expect more manga to be terminated early or abruptly as more mangaka
protest this treaty and the behaviour of their publishers.
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Inu-Yasha
May 8, 2012, 7:30:06 PM5/8/12
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On 5/8/2012 3:21 PM, Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> dbbrndll<NoSuchUser@nosuchaccount> wrote:
>> On 5/8/2012 4:45 AM, Arne Luft wrote:
>>> Is there somewhere a temple or shrine, where I can grieve about the
>>> end of one or the other manga, which I like, but ended with some
>>> unfinished business?
>>
>> Given the number of times this happens in manga, there must be one
>> someplace...
>
> Yeah, but it's probably incomplete.
>
> cu
> 59cobalt
Heh, heh. Good one. ^__^
> dbbrndll<NoSuchUser@nosuchaccount> wrote:
>> On 5/8/2012 4:45 AM, Arne Luft wrote:
>>> Is there somewhere a temple or shrine, where I can grieve about the
>>> end of one or the other manga, which I like, but ended with some
>>> unfinished business?
>>
>> Given the number of times this happens in manga, there must be one
>> someplace...
>
> Yeah, but it's probably incomplete.
>
> cu
> 59cobalt
Inu-Yasha
Feh!! ^_^
Inu-Yasha
May 8, 2012, 7:34:50 PM5/8/12
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retroactively, on manga that they have published, finished or not. It's
hard to trust companies whose only interest is how to screw more money
out of the turnip (abusing an old saying there, sorry.^_^;).
Inu-Yasha
Feh!! ^_^
Arne Luft
May 8, 2012, 11:42:15 PM5/8/12
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On Tue, 8 May 2012 21:02:22 +0000 (UTC), Stainless Steel Rat
<rat...@gweep.net> wrote:
>Part two of a series as Claymore ends abruptly right after Negima!. Manga
>creators apparently are terminating their works early over a copyright
>treaty that Japanese publisher are pushing. This law, the Trans-Pacific
>Partnership (TPP), would grant publishers like Kodansha "equal" copyright
>to the works they publish.
So, that's the reason behind this.
<rat...@gweep.net> wrote:
>Part two of a series as Claymore ends abruptly right after Negima!. Manga
>creators apparently are terminating their works early over a copyright
>treaty that Japanese publisher are pushing. This law, the Trans-Pacific
>Partnership (TPP), would grant publishers like Kodansha "equal" copyright
>to the works they publish.
Well, Kokia has set up her own production group in France to get more
control over her own work.
Rob Kelk
May 9, 2012, 6:55:43 AM5/9/12
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I'm not saying you're wrong - it sounds plausible. I just want to
forward this to somebody who *will* ask for a reference...
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of childishness and the desire to be very grown-up." - C.S. Lewis
Arne Luft
May 9, 2012, 7:39:15 AM5/9/12
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issue;
“My editor dropped off some of those super-spicy Peyoung noodles that
everyone is talking about these days. I tried them, and they did a
number on me.” "
That doesn't support what you've heard.
Stainless Steel Rat
May 9, 2012, 10:10:37 AM5/9/12
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On Tue, 08 May 2012 19:34:50 -0400, Inu-Yasha wrote:
> hard to trust companies whose only interest is how to screw more money
> out of the turnip (abusing an old saying there, sorry.^_^;).
And all in the name of "protecting the artists", of course.
> hard to trust companies whose only interest is how to screw more money
> out of the turnip (abusing an old saying there, sorry.^_^;).
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Stainless Steel Rat
May 9, 2012, 10:15:20 AM5/9/12
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On Wed, 09 May 2012 10:55:43 +0000, Rob Kelk wrote:
> I'm not saying you're wrong - it sounds plausible. I just want to
> forward this to somebody who *will* ask for a reference...
I don't know that it's true for Claymore, but it is for Negima!. Akamatsu
> I'm not saying you're wrong - it sounds plausible. I just want to
> forward this to somebody who *will* ask for a reference...
has been vocal about the TPP treaty since Japan formally announced
consideration of it:
http://astronerdboy.blogspot.com/2012/03/new-proposed-japanese-law-reason-
ken.html
Akamatsu's original in Japanese here:
http://kenakamatsu.tumblr.com/post/19395239269/rinsetsu
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Massimo 'Gohan' Sabbadini
May 9, 2012, 1:03:02 PM5/9/12
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According to this user on MangaHelpers, it's just a big
misuderstanding due to an editorial mistake. The series is NOT over.
I thought it was plain weird. From Bakuman I learned that Jump doesn't
suddenly cancel a long-running series like Claymore without even
warning the readers. :)
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Son Gohan (go...@megane.it)
Se non impugno una spada non posso proteggerti
Se impugno una spada non posso abbracciarti
(Tite Kubo)
Stainless Steel Rat
May 9, 2012, 7:17:04 PM5/9/12
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On Wed, 09 May 2012 19:03:02 +0200, Massimo 'Gohan' Sabbadini wrote:
> According to this user on MangaHelpers, it's just a big misuderstanding
> due to an editorial mistake. The series is NOT over.
Okay, I'll buy that. Still, there's some speculation that Yagi has been
> According to this user on MangaHelpers, it's just a big misuderstanding
> due to an editorial mistake. The series is NOT over.
negotiating a new contract since he's up to the roughly 25 volumes worth
of material stipulated in the current/old one. There is also some
speculation that there will be a title change of some sort. We'll have
to wait and see what happens.
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