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Galen

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Aug 10, 2008, 4:20:32 PM8/10/08
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Stan Lee's Pow Develops Quartz with Gonzo's Parent GDH
posted on 2008-08-10 12:31 EDT

Pow! Entertainment, the production company of American comic book
pioneer Stan Lee, has revealed on its website that it is developing an
animated television series named Quartz with GDH, the corporate parent
of the Gonzo anime studio.

darkst...@gmail.com

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Aug 11, 2008, 3:01:09 PM8/11/08
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Stan, I don't think that's wise. I think you had better take a long
look at GDH's books before you commit too many resources to this one.

My guess? Never sees air. GDH goes bankrupt and out of business
first.

Mike

selaboc

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Aug 11, 2008, 3:17:55 PM8/11/08
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Interesting, just recently Stan had his name attached to a Manga
preview in the US Shonen Jump, and now Anime.

Someone should tell him that the anime Industry only has 13 months
left to it's existance (really only 1 month) according to chicken
little's post 5 months ago:
Mar 18, 2008
"Be lucky I'm giving the present anime industry 18 months. I really
should give it only 6".

Antonio E. Gonzalez

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Aug 11, 2008, 3:24:38 PM8/11/08
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT), selaboc <c64...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

So, what'll his excuse be five years from now when anime has
another of its cyclical booms? Maybe he'll go back to stalking Debbie
Gibson?

Aje RavenStar

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Aug 11, 2008, 3:24:34 PM8/11/08
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"selaboc" <c64...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5a6bf510-440c-4a9c...@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

He'll probably claim he was using Aqua months; not his fault that we got
confused and thought he meant Manhome ones.


afedakendragon

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Aug 11, 2008, 3:31:55 PM8/11/08
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Augh! No, no, NO!

I tell you this: If I were on Aqua, watching more anime or the rise
and fall of the anime industry, would be about the last thing on my
mind!!

--
Abraham Evangelista

Aje RavenStar

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Aug 11, 2008, 3:38:13 PM8/11/08
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"afedakendragon" <afed...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8864a6ac-6d41-4350...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

Augh! No, no, NO!

True, you'd be watching the rise and fall of the tide. The only question is
from the bow of which company's gondala.
--
Abraham Evangelista


darkst...@gmail.com

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Aug 12, 2008, 3:58:32 PM8/12/08
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Given that there is no real industry anymore (and how companies are
coming up with the money to continue to make anime is becoming more
and more of a mystery...) now that CrunchyShit and the like are taking
over...

Don't be so flippant -- I don't ascribe to your party line.

Mike

darkst...@gmail.com

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Aug 12, 2008, 3:59:42 PM8/12/08
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On Aug 11, 12:24 pm, Antonio E. Gonzalez <AntEGM...@aol.com> wrote:

>     So, what'll his excuse be five years from now when anime has
> another of its cyclical booms?  Maybe he'll go back to stalking Debbie
> Gibson?

I'm surprised you don't have restraining orders out against me for
Luci Christian, Laura Bailey, ........

Cyclical booms?? Shit, the only reason con attendance is 1/5 of the
current amount is the sheer number of people robbing the anime
companies blind...

Mike

Gilles Poitras

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Aug 12, 2008, 7:53:53 PM8/12/08
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In article
<09507f70-2498-44e8...@a8g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Stan, I don't think that's wise. I think you had better take a long
> look at GDH's books before you commit too many resources to this one.
>
> My guess? Never sees air. GDH goes bankrupt and out of business
> first.

What is more likely is Pow! Entertainment puts up money for the show and
it gets done.

--
Gilles Poitras
Profession: Librarian Obsession: Anime
http://www.koyagi.com
http://gillespoitras.blogspot.com/

Invid Fan

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Aug 12, 2008, 8:24:54 PM8/12/08
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In article
<For-address-see-0B...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
Gilles Poitras <For-add...@www.koyagi.com> wrote:

> In article
> <09507f70-2498-44e8...@a8g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> darkst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Stan, I don't think that's wise. I think you had better take a long
> > look at GDH's books before you commit too many resources to this one.
> >
> > My guess? Never sees air. GDH goes bankrupt and out of business
> > first.
>
> What is more likely is Pow! Entertainment puts up money for the show and
> it gets done.

Agreed. It's work for hire, so any money problems would come from Pow!
and not GDH. If anything this might fund future GDH projects or lead to
more work for hire stuff.

--
Chris Mack *quote under construction*
'Invid Fan'

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Aug 12, 2008, 11:23:52 PM8/12/08
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Gilles Poitras wrote:
> In article
> <09507f70-2498-44e8...@a8g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> darkst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Stan, I don't think that's wise. I think you had better take a long
>> look at GDH's books before you commit too many resources to this one.
>>
>> My guess? Never sees air. GDH goes bankrupt and out of business
>> first.
>
> What is more likely is Pow! Entertainment puts up money for the show and
> it gets done.
>


Stop injecting positive reality into Darky's wonderful delusions of
devastation and depression.

--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Live Journal: http://seawasp.livejournal.com

darkst...@gmail.com

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Aug 13, 2008, 1:18:01 AM8/13/08
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On Aug 12, 4:53 pm, Gilles Poitras <For-address-...@www.koyagi.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <09507f70-2498-44e8-a98f-0ed8d2251...@a8g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  darkstar7...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Stan, I don't think that's wise.  I think you had better take a long
> > look at GDH's books before you commit too many resources to this one.
>
> > My guess?  Never sees air.  GDH goes bankrupt and out of business
> > first.
>
> What is more likely is Pow! Entertainment puts up money for the show and
> it gets done.

The studio has to be in business long enough for the series to get
done.

Given Gonzo's present money situation, you have more faith in them
than I do, Gilles.

Mike

S.t.A.n.L.e.E

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Aug 13, 2008, 5:45:55 AM8/13/08
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Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:59pm-0700, darkst...@gmail.com <darkst...@gmail.com>:

> On Aug 11, 12:24 pm, Antonio E. Gonzalez <AntEGM...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >     So, what'll his excuse be five years from now when anime has
> > another of its cyclical booms?  Maybe he'll go back to stalking Debbie
> > Gibson?
>
> I'm surprised you don't have restraining orders out against me for
> Luci Christian, Laura Bailey, ........
>

Don't be too serious now.

>
> Cyclical booms?? Shit, the only reason con attendance is 1/5 of the
> current amount is the sheer number of people robbing the anime
> companies blind...
>

(How could con attendance be 1/5 of the current amount?)

In one significant instance, even to my own surprise,
Otakon's growth jumped from 1-2% the last couple years
to more than 10% this year:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-08-10/otakon-2008-attendance

Laters. =)

Stan
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Aug 13, 2008, 9:34:02 AM8/13/08
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In article <120820082024542692%in...@loclanet.com>,
Invid Fan <in...@loclanet.com> wrote:

> Agreed. It's work for hire, so any money problems would come from Pow!
> and not GDH. If anything this might fund future GDH projects or lead to
> more work for hire stuff.

Quite likely, US projects pay rather well up front compared to what
often happens in Japan. A friend in Tokyo was explaining how his company
did a TV series and did not get paid for the broadcast, the money comes
from DVD sales, overseas licenses and tie in items.

darkst...@gmail.com

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Aug 13, 2008, 3:29:27 PM8/13/08
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On Aug 13, 2:45 am, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRune+...@UofR.SlamSpam.net>
wrote:
> Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:59pm-0700, darkstar7...@gmail.com <darkstar7...@gmail.com>:

>
> > On Aug 11, 12:24 pm, Antonio E. Gonzalez <AntEGM...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >     So, what'll his excuse be five years from now when anime has
> > > another of its cyclical booms?  Maybe he'll go back to stalking Debbie
> > > Gibson?
>
> > I'm surprised you don't have restraining orders out against me for
> > Luci Christian, Laura Bailey, ........
>
> Don't be too serious now.

I'm absolutely serious. I'm just saying I'm surprised you guys
haven't basically alerted the studios about my presence at cons and
demanded they take action to protect their female voice talents.

I'm absolutely shocked.

> > Cyclical booms??  Shit, the only reason con attendance is 1/5 of the
> > current amount is the sheer number of people robbing the anime
> > companies blind...
>
> (How could con attendance be 1/5 of the current amount?)

Please read for comprehension.

The only reason con attendance is even 20% of what it is is because of
the rampant theft of anime.

> In one significant instance, even to my own surprise,
> Otakon's growth jumped from 1-2% the last couple years
> to more than 10% this year:

More technology = more theft. Period.

Mike

S.t.A.n.L.e.E

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Aug 13, 2008, 7:00:26 PM8/13/08
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Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:29pm-0700, darkst...@gmail.com <darkst...@gmail.com>:

> On Aug 13, 2:45 am, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRune+...@UofR.SlamSpam.net>
> wrote:
> > Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:59pm-0700, darkstar7...@gmail.com <darkstar7...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > On Aug 11, 12:24 pm, Antonio E. Gonzalez <AntEGM...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >     So, what'll his excuse be five years from now when anime has
> > > > another of its cyclical booms?  Maybe he'll go back to stalking Debbie
> > > > Gibson?
> >
> > > I'm surprised you don't have restraining orders out against me for
> > > Luci Christian, Laura Bailey, ........
> >
> > Don't be too serious now.
>
> I'm absolutely serious. I'm just saying I'm surprised you guys
> haven't basically alerted the studios about my presence at cons and
> demanded they take action to protect their female voice talents.
>
> I'm absolutely shocked.
>

Well, it's good you're not in cons then, even if for a different reason.
Proclaiming doom and gloom is one thing,
but endangering people's safety is another.
Maybe you should take personal responsiblity and seek some help for that
since you obviously realize it (so you have no excuse).
(Instead of always relying on cons to do things for you,
especially stuff that you could do for yourself.)

>
> > > Cyclical booms??  Shit, the only reason con attendance is 1/5 of the
> > > current amount is the sheer number of people robbing the anime
> > > companies blind...
> >
> > (How could con attendance be 1/5 of the current amount?)
>
> Please read for comprehension.
>
> The only reason con attendance is even 20% of what it is is because of
> the rampant theft of anime.
>

T'was tongue-in-cheek.



>
> > In one significant instance, even to my own surprise,
> > Otakon's growth jumped from 1-2% the last couple years
> > to more than 10% this year:
>
> More technology = more theft. Period.
>

Yet, it wasn't the last few years prior (only 1-2% annual growth),
so I don't think that's the reason for the sudden sharp rise.

Laters. =)

STan

darkst...@gmail.com

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Aug 13, 2008, 11:32:48 PM8/13/08
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On Aug 13, 4:00 pm, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRune+...@UofR.SlamSpam.net>
wrote:
> Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:29pm-0700, darkstar7...@gmail.com <darkstar7...@gmail.com>:

> > I'm absolutely serious.  I'm just saying I'm surprised you guys
> > haven't basically alerted the studios about my presence at cons and
> > demanded they take action to protect their female voice talents.
>
> > I'm absolutely shocked.
>
> Well, it's good you're not in cons then, even if for a different reason.
> Proclaiming doom and gloom is one thing, but endangering people's safety is another.

My very presence in society would probably qualify. That's why I have
to be very careful with where I go and what I do. I may take a trek
down to Vegas for Labor Day weekend, but any assurances I'll make it
back the following Tuesday might be up in the air.

> Maybe you should take personal responsiblity and seek some help for that
> since you obviously realize it (so you have no excuse).

The only real "help" I could get would be to be locked up -- for good
this time.

I can only say that the more I saw my therapist, the more I saw in
myself that confirmed to me that they better find a nice comfortable
place for me before something tragic happens.

I learned a lot of things in therapy that had me go the wrong
direction.

The only reason I'm on the outside to begin with at all is that I'm
helping a friend to pay her rent and keep a roof over her head --
other than that, really not much keeping me from incarceration again.
I've been out of jail almost ten years now, and still have no real
reason _why_ I should stay out.

Another few months, and it probably won't matter anyway...

> (Instead of always relying on cons to do things for you,
> especially stuff that you could do for yourself.)

Unfortunately, the _level_ of help would have to be some sort of
legislative/judicial thing. Outpatient won't do it.

> > Please read for comprehension.
>
> > The only reason con attendance is even 20% of what it is is because of
> > the rampant theft of anime.
>
> T'was tongue-in-cheek.

Gave me an opportunity to reinforce the point.

> > > In one significant instance, even to my own surprise,
> > > Otakon's growth jumped from 1-2% the last couple years
> > > to more than 10% this year:
>
> > More technology = more theft.  Period.
>
> Yet, it wasn't the last few years prior (only 1-2% annual growth),
> so I don't think that's the reason for the sudden sharp rise.

Actually, I _do_ think that's the reason for the sharp rises in
conventions the last several years (should you choose to believe the
numbers). How else could the numbers at cons be going up so sharply
when the sales are plummeting by a similar factor?

Mike

S.t.A.n.L.e.E

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Aug 14, 2008, 2:33:37 AM8/14/08
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Wed, 13 Aug 2008 8:32pm-0700, darkst...@gmail.com <darkst...@gmail.com>:

> On Aug 13, 4:00 pm, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRune+...@UofR.SlamSpam.net>
> wrote:
> > Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:29pm-0700, darkstar7...@gmail.com <darkstar7...@gmail.com>:
>
> > > I'm absolutely serious.  I'm just saying I'm surprised you guys
> > > haven't basically alerted the studios about my presence at cons and
> > > demanded they take action to protect their female voice talents.
> >
> > > I'm absolutely shocked.
> >
> > Well, it's good you're not in cons then, even if for a different reason.
> > Proclaiming doom and gloom is one thing, but endangering people's safety is another.
>
> My very presence in society would probably qualify. That's why I have
> to be very careful with where I go and what I do. I may take a trek
> down to Vegas for Labor Day weekend, but any assurances I'll make it
> back the following Tuesday might be up in the air.
>

Las Vegas isn't all that bad.
We visit our house there from time to time.

>
> > Maybe you should take personal responsiblity and seek some help for that
> > since you obviously realize it (so you have no excuse).
>
> The only real "help" I could get would be to be locked up -- for good
> this time.
>
> I can only say that the more I saw my therapist, the more I saw in
> myself that confirmed to me that they better find a nice comfortable
> place for me before something tragic happens.
>
> I learned a lot of things in therapy that had me go the wrong
> direction.
>
> The only reason I'm on the outside to begin with at all is that I'm
> helping a friend to pay her rent and keep a roof over her head --
> other than that, really not much keeping me from incarceration again.
> I've been out of jail almost ten years now, and still have no real
> reason _why_ I should stay out.
>
> Another few months, and it probably won't matter anyway...
>

Don't wanna go into your personal life,
but consider that you'd be a greater help to her
when you sort out your own issues where you could help her.
You're far from the only one I've known people with issues,
but they worked on it and continue to progress.

>
> > (Instead of always relying on cons to do things for you,
> > especially stuff that you could do for yourself.)
>
> Unfortunately, the _level_ of help would have to be some sort of
> legislative/judicial thing. Outpatient won't do it.
>

It's often times simpler than it's made out to be.



>
> > > Please read for comprehension.
> >
> > > The only reason con attendance is even 20% of what it is is because of
> > > the rampant theft of anime.
> >
> > T'was tongue-in-cheek.
>
> Gave me an opportunity to reinforce the point.
>
> > > > In one significant instance, even to my own surprise,
> > > > Otakon's growth jumped from 1-2% the last couple years
> > > > to more than 10% this year:
> >
> > > More technology = more theft.  Period.
> >
> > Yet, it wasn't the last few years prior (only 1-2% annual growth),
> > so I don't think that's the reason for the sudden sharp rise.
>
> Actually, I _do_ think that's the reason for the sharp rises in
> conventions the last several years (should you choose to believe the
> numbers). How else could the numbers at cons be going up so sharply
> when the sales are plummeting by a similar factor?
>

Fansubs have been an issue for the last couple years
when the industry growth has been slowing or declining,
but cons usually still have only a deliberate but steady growth
throughout that time.
It's only Otakon this past weekend that it jumped.
So, no, I don't think that's it.

Laters. =)

Stan

darkst...@gmail.com

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On Aug 13, 11:33 pm, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E" <LostRune+...@UofR.SlamSpam.net>
wrote:
> Wed, 13 Aug 2008 8:32pm-0700, darkstar7...@gmail.com <darkstar7...@gmail.com>:


> > The only reason I'm on the outside to begin with at all is that I'm
> > helping a friend to pay her rent and keep a roof over her head --
> > other than that, really not much keeping me from incarceration again.
> > I've been out of jail almost ten years now, and still have no real
> > reason _why_ I should stay out.
>
> > Another few months, and it probably won't matter anyway...
>
> Don't wanna go into your personal life,
> but consider that you'd be a greater help to her
> when you sort out your own issues where you could help her.
> You're far from the only one I've known people with issues,
> but they worked on it and continue to progress.

Here's a hint: If the state had the funding to do so, the first
college I attended wanted to lock me up for at least two full years
inpatient -- this is Wisconsin and this is 1989.

I do that, my friend is dead because she can't survive on the streets.

> > > (Instead of always relying on cons to do things for you,
> > > especially stuff that you could do for yourself.)
>
> > Unfortunately, the _level_ of help would have to be some sort of
> > legislative/judicial thing.  Outpatient won't do it.
>
> It's often times simpler than it's made out to be.

Not all the time, though.

> > Actually, I _do_ think that's the reason for the sharp rises in
> > conventions the last several years (should you choose to believe the
> > numbers).  How else could the numbers at cons be going up so sharply
> > when the sales are plummeting by a similar factor?
>
> Fansubs have been an issue for the last couple years
> when the industry growth has been slowing or declining,
> but cons usually still have only a deliberate but steady growth
> throughout that time.
> It's only Otakon this past weekend that it jumped.
> So, no, I don't think that's it.

AX claimed 50K total (if you choose to believe that one)...

Mike

Terrence Briggs

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Aug 20, 2008, 11:00:41 PM8/20/08
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Quickie note about Gonzo...

Nothing new. Gonzo animated GI Joe: Sigma 6 for an American
production company, just as Japanese studios has done for hundreds of
American shows for decades. Between this and Afro Samurai (a similar
Japanese-NorthAmerican collaboration), Gonzo could be positioning
itself as a major player in American animation production. Didn't
they animate most of Gotham Knight?

Terrence Briggs, hasn't seen enough Gonzo work to hate them. Yet.
Peace to you...

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