Seriously, AS Programmers MUST Be On Crack....
Relic
the anime block by showing Metalocalypse and Venture Bros (which, I
admit, aren't too bad, since I usually watch them anyway), and have
eliminated Death Note and GitS (reruns, true, but much better than
Code Geass, which I STILL think is a derivative show (BTW, before
anyone says anything, yes I have been watching it; have little
choice since I have been watching the shows after it). Heard also
that AS picked up R2, so I guess the show must be popular with
someone out there ^_^.
Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
Farix
I'm just getting tired of having to reprogram my VCR every three or four
weeks. These constant changes to the schedule makes it hards to keep up
with a serial series.
Farix
Derek Janssen
("R2"? And what exactly would that be, before it'll be malfunctioning
within a day or two?)
> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
Their non-anime programming would improve. -_-
Derek Janssen (and don't think it's crack, but that would be a positive
change)
eja...@verizon.net
8-Bit Star
> I'm just getting tired of having to reprogram my VCR every three or four
> weeks. These constant changes to the schedule makes it hards to keep up
> with a serial series.
>
> Farix
That, in a nutshell, is why I stopped bothering with Cartoon
Network.
Anyone remember when they used to play 19 hours a day
of Scooby-Doo? Or the time they thought it would be a
good idea to run "The Iron Giant" for an ENTIRE WEEKEND?
ender
> ("R2"? And what exactly would that be, before it'll be malfunctioning
> within a day or two?)
Second season of Geass, currently still running in Japan.
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> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
I personally am sticking with my dartboard theory. And here I was all set
to pay more attention to Death Note to better understand the "rules" of the
death note.
Brian Christiansen
SpaceGirl
Just record it all maybe? Disks are cheep! :)
In something sorta related, the BBC is showing the Olympics in lovely
HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their schedule. So
you either record 5 hours of HD tv for one event, or nothing. :s
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Relic
I remember back when I wanted Boomerang because they were
devoting a network dedicated to the cartoons of my youth.
Now I rarely watch it because way too many of the toons
are either of more recent vintage (2005 is NOT boomer
territory) or the few cartoons from my day are censored.
I'm a big boy now ^_^.
Derek Janssen
> Or adding fart noises to everything on april 1st?
Or showing buried hostility to all anime in general?
Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net
8-Bit Star
> I remember back when I wanted Boomerang because they were
> devoting a network dedicated to the cartoons of my youth.
> Now I rarely watch it because way too many of the toons
> are either of more recent vintage (2005 is NOT boomer
> territory) or the few cartoons from my day are censored.
> I'm a big boy now ^_^.
Censored? This I gotta hear.
8-Bit Star
> Or showing buried hostility to all anime in general?
I must not have noticed. Any examples?
Derek Janssen
>
>>Or showing buried hostility to all anime in general?
>
>
> I must not have noticed. Any examples?
Anyone wanna quote the AS "So don't write in and complain" cards every
time they change their late-night anime schedule?--
They can be far more persuasive than my mere powers can convey.
(Whether it's stoner "fanboy-bashing", or just general resentment that
Bleach and Death Note have more marketable mainstream outreach than
Williams's own "Robot Chicken's" micro-niche, there definitely seems to
be *some* deeper demographic-cleansing hatred lurking underneath..)
Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.nte
Derek Janssen
> The first season of Sesame street is rated PG-13. Does it surprise you
> that older cartoons would be censored?
And it was CN who first declared that Warner's "Bewitched Bunny" and
"Frigid Hare" had offensive references unfit for broadcasting to young
viewers...
Derek Janssen (waiting for next month's Popeye set, with Bitter End
restored)
eja...@verizon.net
Relic
A number of the Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry cartoons were censored
by Turner when they got the rights to the Warner Bros and MGM catalog,
usually for racist content or too much violence (remember kiddies,
if an animated human shoots someone in the face, DON'T try this at
home! ^_^). There's even a group of cartoons out there referred
to as "The Banned 11", eleven (mostly) Warner Bros. cartoons
that, when Turner got the catalog, were immediately forbidden
from his network (in virtually every case, it was for overt
racism, though one, "Mississippi Hare", is on one of the
Golden Collections uncut). A Google search should turn up the list.
But in any case, when Boomerang was advertised, it was directed
at pretty much the Boomer generation (of which I am a member), so
it was assumed that they would do away with the censoring (I'm of
the opinion that a disclaimer should be enough, and that ignoring
that the evil of racism exists simply makes it harder to condemn),
but sure enough, they simply showed the same cut stuff as they
did with CN.
But then, in a day where you can't show some idiot walking on a
ledge to touch a stupid phone without adding a disclaimer, why
should I be surprised that society fears a 'toon with a gun?
Antonio E. Gonzalez
<eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>8-Bit Star wrote:
>>
>>>Or showing buried hostility to all anime in general?
>>
>>
>> I must not have noticed. Any examples?
>
>Anyone wanna quote the AS "So don't write in and complain" cards every
>time they change their late-night anime schedule?--
>They can be far more persuasive than my mere powers can convey.
>
People complain about schedule changes all the time, nothing hidden
there . . .
>(Whether it's stoner "fanboy-bashing",
There's the stoner-bashing again; projection, perhaps?
or just general resentment that
>Bleach and Death Note have more marketable mainstream outreach than
>Williams's own "Robot Chicken's" micro-niche,
Wow, there's so much wrong with that, I wouldn't know where to
start! Let's just call it "willful dellusion" . . .
there definitely seems to
>be *some* deeper demographic-cleansing hatred lurking underneath..)
>
. . . aaand, more delusions . . .
Rob Maxwell
"SpaceGirl" <nothespac...@subhuman.net> wrote in message
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> Brian Christiansen wrote:
>> "Relic" <reli...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>> news:dytnk.21068$N87....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>>> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
>>
>> I personally am sticking with my dartboard theory. And here I was all
>> set to pay more attention to Death Note to better understand the "rules"
>> of the death note.
>>
>> Brian Christiansen
>
> Just record it all maybe? Disks are cheep! :)
>
> In something sorta related, the BBC is showing the Olympics in lovely
> HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their schedule. So
> you either record 5 hours of HD tv for one event, or nothing. :s
>
It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3 Olympic
channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled for today on
one of the two weekday daytime channels.
-Rob
sanjian
> "SpaceGirl" <nothespac...@subhuman.net> wrote in message
> news:6g8ldoF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Brian Christiansen wrote:
>>> "Relic" <reli...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dytnk.21068$N87....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>
>>>> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
>>>
>>> I personally am sticking with my dartboard theory. And here I was
>>> all set to pay more attention to Death Note to better understand
>>> the "rules" of the death note.
>>>
>>> Brian Christiansen
>>
>> Just record it all maybe? Disks are cheep! :)
>>
>> In something sorta related, the BBC is showing the Olympics in lovely
>> HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their
>> schedule. So you either record 5 hours of HD tv for one event, or
>> nothing. :s
>
> It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3
> Olympic channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled
> for today on one of the two weekday daytime channels.
All for an event that has speed walking, but not American football or Rugby.
Seems rather useless to me.
Though the news report of the Iranian basketball team actually shaking the
Israeli coach's hand was kind of cool.
Farix
> "SpaceGirl" <nothespac...@subhuman.net> wrote in message
> news:6g8ldoF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Brian Christiansen wrote:
>>> "Relic" <reli...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dytnk.21068$N87....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>
>>>> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
>>> I personally am sticking with my dartboard theory. And here I was all
>>> set to pay more attention to Death Note to better understand the "rules"
>>> of the death note.
>>>
>>> Brian Christiansen
>> Just record it all maybe? Disks are cheep! :)
>>
>> In something sorta related, the BBC is showing the Olympics in lovely
>> HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their schedule. So
>> you either record 5 hours of HD tv for one event, or nothing. :s
>>
>
> It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3 Olympic
> channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled for today on
> one of the two weekday daytime channels.
NBC, MSNBC, so what's the third?
This reminds me. A few years, NBC tried to do that pay-per-view
triple-cast and it flopped miserably. People weren't going to pay
hundreds of dollars to watch the Olympics.
Farix
Aje RavenStar
"Farix" <dhstr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Rob Maxwell wrote:
>> "SpaceGirl" <nothespac...@subhuman.net> wrote in message
>> news:6g8ldoF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Brian Christiansen wrote:
>>>> "Relic" <reli...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:dytnk.21068$N87....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
>>>> I personally am sticking with my dartboard theory. And here I was all
>>>> set to pay more attention to Death Note to better understand the
>>>> "rules" of the death note.
>>>>
>>>> Brian Christiansen
>>> Just record it all maybe? Disks are cheep! :)
>>>
>>> In something sorta related, the BBC is showing the Olympics in lovely
>>> HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their schedule. So
>>> you either record 5 hours of HD tv for one event, or nothing. :s
>>>
>>
>> It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3
>> Olympic channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled for
>> today on one of the two weekday daytime channels.
>
> NBC, MSNBC, so what's the third?
>
USA cable network.
Derek Janssen
>>>>
>>>> I personally am sticking with my dartboard theory.
>>>
>>> HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their schedule.
> This reminds me. A few years, NBC tried to do that pay-per-view
> triple-cast and it flopped miserably. People weren't going to pay
> hundreds of dollars to watch the Olympics.
I remember the 80's David Letterman airing NBC's own promos for the PPV
channels ("36 exclusive hours of track and field! 23 hours of swimming
and diving!"), which seemed to sum up the reaction:
"Let's just consider those words for a moment, ladies and gentlemen:
'23 HOURS...of SWIMMING AND DIVING...'"
Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net
Farix
> "Farix" <dhstr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g7p889$bpk$1...@news.parasun.com...
>> Rob Maxwell wrote:
>>> "SpaceGirl" <nothespac...@subhuman.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6g8ldoF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their schedule. So
>>>> you either record 5 hours of HD tv for one event, or nothing. :s
>>>>
>>> It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3
>>> Olympic channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled for
>>> today on one of the two weekday daytime channels.
>> NBC, MSNBC, so what's the third?
>>
>
> USA cable network.
No wonder. I have that channel blocked because they haven't shown
anything I'm interested in watching for years.
Farix
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Laters. =)
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Doug Jacobs
>> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
>
> I'm just getting tired of having to reprogram my VCR every three or four
> weeks. These constant changes to the schedule makes it hards to keep up
> with a serial series.
I gave up a long time ago trying to just record individual shows in AS.
Now I just record the whole block and FF through it looking for anything
that I haven't seen before.
Needless to say, that doesn't happen very often nowadays.
I think the only new stuff they're showing that I care about is Code
Geass, Metacolypse, and Venture Bros.
And why'd they move Deathnote in favor of yet another rerun of Inuyasha
and Cowboy Bebop? Do these shows really still get the viewers? (pretty
impressive for a 10 year old anime series...)
--
It's not broken. It's...advanced.
Doug Jacobs
> Anyone remember when they used to play 19 hours a day
> of Scooby-Doo? Or the time they thought it would be a
> good idea to run "The Iron Giant" for an ENTIRE WEEKEND?
I can forgive them for that though. Cartoon Network is for kids, after
all.
Besides, at least Iron Giant was animated. Explain to me why 101
Dalmations ended up on CN? Yeah, it's still a kiddie movie ,but this
makes about as much sense as having ESPN-2 or VH-1 running normal Hollywood
movies.
Antonio E. Gonzalez
Well, considering 101 Dalmatians (presuming you mean the Glen Close
one) is a live-action version of an animated classic, it should get a
pass; not like Disney will just give away one of their bedrock
classics, much less to a dedicated rival . . .
Doug Jacobs
> But then, in a day where you can't show some idiot walking on a
> ledge to touch a stupid phone without adding a disclaimer, why
> should I be surprised that society fears a 'toon with a gun?
Guy wearing shirt of Optimus Prime posing with a gun almost gets arrested
by airport security, and isn't allowed onto his flight:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1234193.ece
Granted, this was in the UK, not the US.
Doug Jacobs
> In something sorta related, the BBC is showing the Olympics in lovely
> HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their schedule. So
> you either record 5 hours of HD tv for one event, or nothing. :s
Ditto for NBC. Under Dish Network, I have stuff like "OLYMPICS 10am-6pm."
At least they list the events that will be covered during the day, but
this means you have to record the entire 8 hour block if you want to hvae
a chance of seeing the event that they're going to air (maybe) sometime
during the day.
Methinks the networks are doing this to get more DVR folks from flipping
around.
DBBrandell
> And why'd they move Deathnote in favor of yet another rerun of Inuyasha
> and Cowboy Bebop? Do these shows really still get the viewers? (pretty
> impressive for a 10 year old anime series...)
>
Inuyasha still places in the top three, occasionally.
DBB
SpaceGirl
Hmm. Well the most popular DVRs (at least the two we have here at home)
here in then UK can record 2 HD channels and watch a 3rd, so it's not
end of the world, I can still channel hop! But you don't get much HD
content on the tiny 160Gb disks they put in them :( About 40 hours. I'm
deliberately DVR-ing my fave TV series in the bedroom now, leaving the
one in the living room for the Olympic swimming and gymnastics. :s
Not, that in reality, I have time to watch either!
Farix
> Farix wrote on [Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:26:34 -0400]:
>> Relic wrote:
>>> So I turn on AS tonight, only to find that they had once again shortened
>>> the anime block by showing Metalocalypse and Venture Bros (which, I
>>> admit, aren't too bad, since I usually watch them anyway), and have
>>> eliminated Death Note and GitS (reruns, true, but much better than
>>> Code Geass, which I STILL think is a derivative show (BTW, before
>>> anyone says anything, yes I have been watching it; have little
>>> choice since I have been watching the shows after it). Heard also
>>> that AS picked up R2, so I guess the show must be popular with
>>> someone out there ^_^.
>>>
>>> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
>> I'm just getting tired of having to reprogram my VCR every three or four
>> weeks. These constant changes to the schedule makes it hards to keep up
>> with a serial series.
>
The problem with TiVo, or any DVR that I've looked into, is that you
have to purchase a separate subscription in order for it to work. I
simply want the digital equivalent of a VCR, but without having to
juggle and rewind tapes.
Farix
Rob Kelk
>Rob Maxwell wrote:
<snip>
>> It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3
>> Olympic channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled
>> for today on one of the two weekday daytime channels.
>
>All for an event that has speed walking, but not American football or Rugby.
>Seems rather useless to me.
C'mon, they've also got field hockey. That's the only kind of hockey
that Canada isn't good at, so who knows who'll win?
<snip>
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Chris Sobieniak
> Rob Maxwell wrote:
> > "SpaceGirl" <nothespacegirls...@subhuman.net> wrote in message
> >news:6g8ldoF...@mid.individual.net...
> >> Brian Christiansen wrote:
> >>>news:dytnk.21068$N87....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> >>>> Maybe the programmers should lay off the drugs...
> >>> I personally am sticking with my dartboard theory. And here I was all
> >>> set to pay more attention to Death Note to better understand the "rules"
> >>> of the death note.
>
> >>> Brian Christiansen
> >> Just record it all maybe? Disks are cheep! :)
>
> >> In something sorta related, the BBC is showing the Olympics in lovely
> >> HD... but they're not bothering to split up events on their schedule. So
> >> you either record 5 hours of HD tv for one event, or nothing. :s
>
> > It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3 Olympic
> > channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled for today on
> > one of the two weekday daytime channels.
>
> NBC, MSNBC, so what's the third?
>
> This reminds me. A few years, NBC tried to do that pay-per-view
> triple-cast and it flopped miserably. People weren't going to pay
> hundreds of dollars to watch the Olympics.
>
> Farix
That was back in '92.
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:36:18 -0400, "sanjian" <mun...@vt.edu> wrote:
>
> >Rob Maxwell wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3
> >> Olympic channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled
> >> for today on one of the two weekday daytime channels.
> >
> >All for an event that has speed walking, but not American football or Rugby.
> >Seems rather useless to me.
>
> C'mon, they've also got field hockey. That's the only kind of hockey
> that Canada isn't good at, so who knows who'll win?
>
Canadians are good at tonsil hockey? ^_^
Rob Kelk
<LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote:
>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:28pm-0000, Rob Kelk <rob...@deadspam.com>:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:36:18 -0400, "sanjian" <mun...@vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >Rob Maxwell wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >> It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3
>> >> Olympic channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled
>> >> for today on one of the two weekday daytime channels.
>> >
>> >All for an event that has speed walking, but not American football or Rugby.
>> >Seems rather useless to me.
>>
>> C'mon, they've also got field hockey. That's the only kind of hockey
>> that Canada isn't good at, so who knows who'll win?
>>
>
>Canadians are good at tonsil hockey? ^_^
I haven't heard any complaints... ^_-
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"Now I know why they call 'em lemons. They leave a sour taste in my
mouth." - from "Anime Detective: Crossover Crisis", by Pearson Mui
Mark Jones
but I've just got to find out if there's something terribly wrong with
my taste perception..........what's watching the Olympics without pizza,
right? Last night I finally broke down and ordered some of those Pizza
Mia things from the Hut, and, for the first time in my memory, I
couldn't eat them. They were awful! The crusts were _sweet_, almost like
cookies..........I don't put ketchup on ice cream, and I don't expect
tangy pizza sauce on a giant cookie! The whole experience was more
traumatic than sitting through E.Y.E.s of Mars...............
Most people I've heard from seem to like them, though..........is it
them or me? This messed up my whole nights Olympic viewing, dang
it........
sanjian
> I'm sorry to take this thread yet another step off its original path,
> but I've just got to find out if there's something terribly wrong with
> my taste perception..........what's watching the Olympics without
> pizza, right? Last night I finally broke down and ordered some of
> those Pizza Mia things from the Hut, and, for the first time in my
> memory, I couldn't eat them. They were awful! The crusts were
> _sweet_, almost like cookies..........I don't put ketchup on ice
> cream, and I don't expect tangy pizza sauce on a giant cookie! The
> whole experience was more traumatic than sitting through E.Y.E.s of
> Mars...............
I don't care what C.C. says, I don't order from Pizza Hut.
Though, they're fine for lunch. The volume makes it worth the price.
darkst...@gmail.com
USA! USA!! USA!!!" crap coverage:
NBCOlympics.com and over 2000 hours of live coverage of other events.
Been watching:
Tennis
Handball
Judo
Rowing
Badminton
Basketball (other teams)
Soccer
Softball
and a host of other events I forgot...
Mike
Doug Jacobs
> Hmm. Well the most popular DVRs (at least the two we have here at home)
> here in then UK can record 2 HD channels and watch a 3rd, so it's not
> end of the world, I can still channel hop! But you don't get much HD
> content on the tiny 160Gb disks they put in them :( About 40 hours. I'm
> deliberately DVR-ing my fave TV series in the bedroom now, leaving the
> one in the living room for the Olympic swimming and gymnastics. :s
Well, the DVR I have has 2 tuners, but there's olympic stuff on 3 or 4
different channels sometimes. It would be nice if you could just record a
specific event. Instead, they're covering an event for an hour, then
switching to something else, then maybe coming back to the first event
again, then going to a 3rd event and so on. I guess if you were just
watching the olympics "live" that would be OK - but if you're recording,
chances are you know what events you want to watch, and which ones you
don't care about.
> Not, that in reality, I have time to watch either!
Yeah, we're doing the living room/bedroom thing too. Filled up the
bedroom DVR some time ago and haven't had time to watch it very often.
Doug Jacobs
> The problem with TiVo, or any DVR that I've looked into, is that you
> have to purchase a separate subscription in order for it to work. I
> simply want the digital equivalent of a VCR, but without having to
> juggle and rewind tapes.
Unfortunately, until the switchover to digital occurs, and we get
something that cable companies will actually support, as opposed to
cablecard, which required you to beg and plead with your cable company to
get, you aren't really going to see a real subscription-free DVR, not even
one that just acts like a dumb VCR which uses a hard drive.
Doug Jacobs
> I'm sorry to take this thread yet another step off its original path,
> but I've just got to find out if there's something terribly wrong with
> my taste perception..........what's watching the Olympics without pizza,
> right? Last night I finally broke down and ordered some of those Pizza
> Mia things from the Hut, and, for the first time in my memory, I
> couldn't eat them. They were awful! The crusts were _sweet_, almost like
> cookies..........I don't put ketchup on ice cream, and I don't expect
> tangy pizza sauce on a giant cookie! The whole experience was more
> traumatic than sitting through E.Y.E.s of Mars...............
Pizza Hut changed their recipes recently or something. Their hand tossed
crusts basically taste like a donut. Very sweet - not good for something
that's supposed to be savory like normal pizza toppings. We tried the
Mia, and it was OK, but you get very little toppings. Time to try the
Papa Murphy's I guess.
Farix
combos players no longer come with a tuner, which defeats the purpose of
getting the combo player.
Farix, who is simply venting now.
8-Bit Star
> 8-Bit Star <ness...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Anyone remember when they used to play 19 hours a day
> > of Scooby-Doo? Or the time they thought it would be a
> > good idea to run "The Iron Giant" for an ENTIRE WEEKEND?
>
> I can forgive them for that though. Cartoon Network is for kids, after
> all.
Why the feck does THAT matter? Kids don't like repetition
and overexposure any more than adults do.
Farix
Kids have a much, much higher tolerance for repetition than adults. I
think that is part of their instinctive learning process.
Farix
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
Yeah... um... You have any kids? All three of mine have developed
fascinations that cause, for instance, "Lady and the Tramp" to be played
20 times in four days. Christopher once watched Lupin III: Castle
Cagliostro 5 times in a row.
Many kids LOVE repetition. Sure, they'll EVENTUALLY get bored with it,
but their "eventually" is a long, long way past YOURS.
--
Sea Wasp
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8-Bit Star
<seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> Yeah... um... You have any kids?
Sigh... why is this always the first thing people fall back on when
presented with a question that attacks long-standing stereotypes?
No, I don't have any kids, however I've been around them most of
my life, and used to be one myself--and I have a pretty good
memory.
Moreover, I don't need experience with kids to examine facts.
Fact: Shows meant for kids tend to have shorter lifespans than
shows meant for adults.
Fact: Shows meant for children tend to go into reruns much
sooner in their lifespan.
Fact: Know why most cartoons from the 1970s only lasted one
or two seasons? Its because network executives back then
thought the same thing that Cartoon Network thinks now--that
kids will watch the same thirteen-or-so episodes over and
over.
Fact: They were wrong then, they're wrong now.
After all, if you and CN were right, then CN would still be the
Scooby Doo network and we'd still have idiotic "nothing but
one movie all weekend long" weekends, and there would be
no Adult Swim. Also they wouldn't always preview new shows
in order to find the next big hit. Hell, they probably would
never have created Dexter's Laboratory and would still be
basically an 80s rerun network.
Derek Janssen
>
> Fact: Know why most cartoons from the 1970s only lasted one
> or two seasons? Its because network executives back then
> thought the same thing that Cartoon Network thinks now--that
> kids will watch the same thirteen-or-so episodes over and
> over.
>
> Fact: They were wrong then, they're wrong now.
>
> After all, if you and CN were right, then CN would still be the
> Scooby Doo network and we'd still have idiotic "nothing but
> one movie all weekend long" weekends, and there would be
> no Adult Swim. Also they wouldn't always preview new shows
> in order to find the next big hit. Hell, they probably would
> never have created Dexter's Laboratory and would still be
> basically an 80s rerun network.
Actually, it has more to do with the odd and unfathomable mysteries of
Turner Broadcasting, still continuing to act on Ted's loopy
idiosyncracies long after his retirement:
- The idea that you can promote an unwanted vault syndie-rerun back into
"cult" status if you just try hard enough and tie it into the right trend,
- The notion that parent-company brandname is more important than
individual network identity, so shuffle those series back and forth
across channels at will, wherever they fit,
- "If it worked for 'A Christmas Story', a weekend marathon will work
for ANY movie!"
Derek Janssen (and y'know, at this point, I'd actually WATCH an episode
of "The Snorks" just to get away from "Robot Chicken"?)
eja...@verizon.net
Mark Jones
works for full- length movies? My extended family went through a sudden
baby boom around fifteen years back, and anyone with any time on their
hands was called on to help babysit. So help me, those kids could sit
through so many viewings of Jungle Book and the Disney Little Mermaid (
with rewindings of their favorite scenes, oh yes, many rewindings )
that, to this day, hearing " Look for the bear necessities......."
evokes a kneejerk feeling in me something like the sudden recollection
of an old episode of food poisoning...............
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:54:29 -0400, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E"
> <LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote:
>
> >Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:28pm-0000, Rob Kelk <rob...@deadspam.com>:
> >
> >> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:36:18 -0400, "sanjian" <mun...@vt.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Rob Maxwell wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> >> It's fun in the US, too. On Saturday and Sunday afternoons we have 3
> >> >> Olympic channels at the same time. We have an 8 hour block scheduled
> >> >> for today on one of the two weekday daytime channels.
> >> >
> >> >All for an event that has speed walking, but not American football or Rugby.
> >> >Seems rather useless to me.
> >>
> >> C'mon, they've also got field hockey. That's the only kind of hockey
> >> that Canada isn't good at, so who knows who'll win?
> >>
> >
> >Canadians are good at tonsil hockey? ^_^
>
> I haven't heard any complaints... ^_-
>
Well, if there's any Canadian lass,
I'll sacrifice my time and be a referee in the Olympics, eh? ^_^
Invid Fan
<dbe413ec-49d7-4065...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
8-Bit Star <nes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 12, 10:20 pm, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah... um... You have any kids?
>
> Sigh... why is this always the first thing people fall back on when
> presented with a question that attacks long-standing stereotypes?
>
Because our first hand experience may be evidence against your position.
> No, I don't have any kids, however I've been around them most of
> my life, and used to be one myself--and I have a pretty good
> memory.
>
> Moreover, I don't need experience with kids to examine facts.
>
> Fact: Shows meant for kids tend to have shorter lifespans than
> shows meant for adults.
>
As it's known not as many episodes are needed. Who do a second season
when you're going to get an entire new audience every year who haven't
seen the show yet.
> Fact: Shows meant for children tend to go into reruns much
> sooner in their lifespan.
>
See above.
> Fact: Know why most cartoons from the 1970s only lasted one
> or two seasons? Its because network executives back then
> thought the same thing that Cartoon Network thinks now--that
> kids will watch the same thirteen-or-so episodes over and
> over.
>
As was proven when reruns got the same ratings as a new show. Actually,
you could also argue that the above tends to show that it's later
seasons that kids won't watch and thus it's better to do two new shows
then the same show for two years...
> Fact: They were wrong then, they're wrong now.
>
When everyone else in the world is wrong but you, it's good to at least
double check your reasoning :)
> After all, if you and CN were right, then CN would still be the
> Scooby Doo network and we'd still have idiotic "nothing but
> one movie all weekend long" weekends, and there would be
> no Adult Swim. Also they wouldn't always preview new shows
> in order to find the next big hit. Hell, they probably would
> never have created Dexter's Laboratory and would still be
> basically an 80s rerun network.
The taste of kids change, plus there's more money to be made marketing
new shows that you own then pushing 30 year old stuff.
--
Chris Mack *quote under construction*
'Invid Fan'
8-Bit Star
> In article
> <dbe413ec-49d7-4065-853b-68eca6339...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> 8-Bit Star <ness...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 12, 10:20 pm, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> > <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>
> > > Yeah... um... You have any kids?
>
> > Sigh... why is this always the first thing people fall back on when
> > presented with a question that attacks long-standing stereotypes?
>
> Because our first hand experience may be evidence against your position.
Only until you remember that "first-hand experience" can be
(and has been) used to prove anything.
> As it's known not as many episodes are needed. Who do a second season
> when you're going to get an entire new audience every year who haven't
> seen the show yet.
Because you're not going to. If they were thinking like that, then
its no wonder animation as a viable commercial medium nearly
died off in the 1970s.
> > Fact: Know why most cartoons from the 1970s only lasted one
> > or two seasons? Its because network executives back then
> > thought the same thing that Cartoon Network thinks now--that
> > kids will watch the same thirteen-or-so episodes over and
> > over.
>
> As was proven when reruns got the same ratings as a new show.
I know that's happened in the case of shows like Star Trek which
were phenomenal, but I've never heard of it for a children's cartoon.
> Actually,
> you could also argue that the above tends to show that it's later
> seasons that kids won't watch and thus it's better to do two new shows
> then the same show for two years...
How do you figure that?
> When everyone else in the world is wrong but you, it's good to at least
> double check your reasoning :)
That's what you're here for :)
> > After all, if you and CN were right, then CN would still be the
> > Scooby Doo network and we'd still have idiotic "nothing but
> > one movie all weekend long" weekends, and there would be
> > no Adult Swim. Also they wouldn't always preview new shows
> > in order to find the next big hit. Hell, they probably would
> > never have created Dexter's Laboratory and would still be
> > basically an 80s rerun network.
>
> The taste of kids change, plus there's more money to be made marketing
> new shows that you own then pushing 30 year old stuff.
I'm pretty sure that's the point I was trying to make--kids
won't watch the same thing forever.
Invid Fan
<de1a78cf-43ee-41ad...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
8-Bit Star <nes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 13, 10:42 am, Invid Fan <in...@loclanet.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <dbe413ec-49d7-4065-853b-68eca6339...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > 8-Bit Star <ness...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Aug 12, 10:20 pm, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> > > <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Yeah... um... You have any kids?
> >
> > > Sigh... why is this always the first thing people fall back on when
> > > presented with a question that attacks long-standing stereotypes?
> >
> > Because our first hand experience may be evidence against your position.
>
> Only until you remember that "first-hand experience" can be
> (and has been) used to prove anything.
>
Exactly, but it's a step up from "I have no facts, but here's the
truth" :)
> > As it's known not as many episodes are needed. Who do a second season
> > when you're going to get an entire new audience every year who haven't
> > seen the show yet.
>
> Because you're not going to. If they were thinking like that, then
> its no wonder animation as a viable commercial medium nearly
> died off in the 1970s.
>
It's also the thinking now. Shows like Dora or Spongebob do a limited
run, and are shown for years. There's a new crop of 3 year olds every
year.
> > > Fact: Know why most cartoons from the 1970s only lasted one
> > > or two seasons? Its because network executives back then
> > > thought the same thing that Cartoon Network thinks now--that
> > > kids will watch the same thirteen-or-so episodes over and
> > > over.
> >
> > As was proven when reruns got the same ratings as a new show.
>
> I know that's happened in the case of shows like Star Trek which
> were phenomenal, but I've never heard of it for a children's cartoon.
>
If new shows got significantly better ratings, networks wouldn't run
repeats (as opposed to local stations airing them). You had a network
still showing HR Puffnstuf's 17 episodes when I was a kid in the mid
70's, when the show originally aired in '69. It was new (and scary) to
me :)
> > Actually,
> > you could also argue that the above tends to show that it's later
> > seasons that kids won't watch and thus it's better to do two new shows
> > then the same show for two years...
>
> How do you figure that?
>
If a network replaces a successful show with a new one instead of
ordering a second season, there must be a reason. I also was basing it
partly on the Japanese practice of only doing one year of their live
action kids Sentai shows and replacing them with a new one with new
actors instead of continuing the old one. You get to sell a new line of
toys every year.
> > When everyone else in the world is wrong but you, it's good to at least
> > double check your reasoning :)
>
> That's what you're here for :)
>
I'm here mostly to laugh, to be honest ;)
> > > After all, if you and CN were right, then CN would still be the
> > > Scooby Doo network and we'd still have idiotic "nothing but
> > > one movie all weekend long" weekends, and there would be
> > > no Adult Swim. Also they wouldn't always preview new shows
> > > in order to find the next big hit. Hell, they probably would
> > > never have created Dexter's Laboratory and would still be
> > > basically an 80s rerun network.
> >
> > The taste of kids change, plus there's more money to be made marketing
> > new shows that you own then pushing 30 year old stuff.
>
> I'm pretty sure that's the point I was trying to make--kids
> won't watch the same thing forever.
For various definitions of "forever". When a kid can happily watch the
same dvd over and over again day after day, the fact that a year or two
later they won't watch it anymore is a moot point. However, I mostly
was referring to the marketing point, and the fact that CN would rather
own new shows then split some of the money with whatever's left of HB
(even though they're owned by the same corporate overlord). Network
execs also would rather be seen as creating new shows then just being
caretakers for old ones.
Derek Janssen
So, we're still on our own homegrown "Kids watch the same thing" idea,
and haven't moved on to more reality-based "Ted Turner was a barking-mad
lunatic" specifics?--O-kayyy.... 9_9
Derek Janssen (just my little guitar and the truth, trying to keep
things moving along)
eja...@verizon.ent
Doug Jacobs
> A TiVo can work without a subcription, you just don't get the guide and
> you have to manually program it.
Only if you have their old Series 1 models. Series 2 and 3 REQUIRE a
subscription and will not even let you record without one.
Tivo does ocassionally make the lifetime subscription available on their
webpage from time to time though.