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Sora no Woto - Moe-blobs at War (aka, Blow Moe)

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Dave Baranyi

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Sora no Wotoļæ½, aka, ļæ½So Ra No Wo Toļæ½, aka, ļæ½Boob Privatesļæ½, aka, ļæ½Blow Moeļæ½ is a
new original moe-fest anime being broadcast by TV Tokyo. In a fantasy world that
has suffered from too much war, five moe girl soldiers staff a derelict castle
in a town that looks like it is in Europe, but where people write in French but
sign documents using Japanese kanji name stamps, and where Japanese festivals
are celebrated by townsfolk who are dressed like they just stepped out of the
set of ļæ½Spice and Wolfļæ½.

Fifteen year old orphan moe-blob Kanata was inspired by a soldier girl with a
trumpet to become a bugler in the Signal Corps. She is assigned to an isolated
outpost located in an abandoned castle in a backwater town. There she runs into
super bitchy moe-blob soldier Rio, and finds out that Rio is a skilled
trumpeter. Kanata is thrilled by this because her bugle playing truly ļæ½blowsļæ½
and she is in terminal need of lessons.

Besides being an incompetent musician, Kanata is also an idiot and almost kills
herself several times in the first episode. The near-death experiences do
nothing to improve Kanata's common sense or survival skills, but they do provide
an opportunity for the audience to look at her panties. This provides a
counterpoint to the repeated shots of Rio's cleavage.

Although I am not necessarily opposed in general to moe-blob anime (I liked
Kami-chu and Kanagi a lot), there has to be something about the characters and
the story to pull me into a moe-blob anime. Just watching ļæ½cute girls doing
stupid thingsļæ½ isn't usually enough to maintain my interest. And the first
episode of ļæ½So La Ti Doļæ½ didn't push any of the right buttons for me while it
pushed a number of the wrong buttons for me.

The animation, particularly the backgrounds, was sometimes very good, and other
times looked unfinished. The songs were instantly forgetable for me. The
characters turned me off. The story line blew my Analog-trained suspension-of-
disbelief out of the water. So I'm not going to follow this series any further.
But I bet that moe-blob fans will go absolutely nuts over this series.

The official website is at:

http://www.sorawoto.com/

Dave Baranyi


Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:59:03 PM1/4/10
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You just made me wreck a keyboard. Well, in spirit, anyway, otherwise I
couldn't type this.

WTF is "Moe-blob"?


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Andrew Floyd

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Sir,

I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
to it.

If you don't like Moe, don't review it. Let someone else with plenty of
respect do the job.

Don't force yourself to like something you don't.

"Read this very carefully, I shall type this only once nyo!"
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Dave Watson

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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 00:58:34 -0500, Andrew Floyd wrote:

> Sir,
>
> I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
> to it.
>
> If you don't like Moe, don't review it. Let someone else with plenty of
> respect do the job.
>
> Don't force yourself to like something you don't.

Erm, did you read the part in the review where he said he likes Kamichu!
and Kannagi? He doesn't hate moe anime in general, he just hates anime
that he (subjectively) feels is bad, like Sora no Woto. Also, you can be
assured he's not forcing himself to like anything. If he feels that an
anime has no redeeming features from the first ep, he drops it to devote
more time to stuff he likes, be it other anime titles or some time with his
family.

Watson
Who hasn't watched SnW yet (because he can't understand Japanese like Dave
B. does), but is getting a bit of a yuk out of the just-fansubbed Spice and
Wolf S2 bonus Stretching With Me.

Galen

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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:59:03 -0500, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

>
>You just made me wreck a keyboard. Well, in spirit, anyway, otherwise I
>couldn't type this.
>
> WTF is "Moe-blob"?

A 0-dimensional character ("blob") drawn as cute
in a child-like way.

-Galen

Giovanni Wassen

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:58:33 AM1/5/10
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Dave Watson wrote:

> Who hasn't watched SnW yet (because he can't understand Japanese like
> Dave B. does), but is getting a bit of a yuk out of the just-fansubbed
> Spice and Wolf S2 bonus Stretching With Me.

Hinako was much more fun.

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http://watkijkikoptv.info/animeblog


Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Ah, I see. I was envisioning amoeboid creatures with big kawaii eyes.

Rob Kelk

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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 00:58:34 -0500, MrSh...@webtv.net (Andrew Floyd)
wrote:

>Sir,
>
>I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
>to it.
>
>If you don't like Moe, don't review it. Let someone else with plenty of
>respect do the job.
>
>Don't force yourself to like something you don't.

He didn't say that he doesn't like moe; he said that he doesn't like
moe-blob. There's a difference.

And DaveB appears to review the first episode of *everything*.

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"When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear
of childishness and the desire to be very grown-up." - C.S. Lewis

Megane

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In article <15skehh2olvbw$.1i08w9up...@40tude.net>,
Dave Watson <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:

> Erm, did you read the part in the review where he said he likes Kamichu!
> and Kannagi? He doesn't hate moe anime in general, he just hates anime
> that he (subjectively) feels is bad, like Sora no Woto.

Unfortunately the moe-blob and fanservice anime, with no redeeming
quality aside from following a forumula of lolis, panty shots, upfronts,
and the usual tired fanservice cliches ("They had no writing budget
because they spent it all on virtual silicone and panties"), seems to to
be taking over the anime schedule on Japanese TV these days. I guess it
gets good DVD sales numbers in Japan, since sex sells, especially among
the pervier otaku that Japan has no lack of, but it's nothing more than
eye candy.

I'm tired of all the gratuitious panty shots and face-in-breast shots.
They are just so tired when not used in an obvious parody context. It's
like the anime equivalent of adding a laugh track.

> Who hasn't watched SnW yet (because he can't understand Japanese like Dave
> B. does), but is getting a bit of a yuk out of the just-fansubbed Spice and
> Wolf S2 bonus Stretching With Me.

What? I found it fansubbed a month ago.

Galen

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:32:31 -0500, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

>Galen wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:59:03 -0500, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>> <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You just made me wreck a keyboard. Well, in spirit, anyway, otherwise I
>>> couldn't type this.
>>>
>>> WTF is "Moe-blob"?
>>
>> A 0-dimensional character ("blob") drawn as cute
>> in a child-like way.
>
> Ah, I see. I was envisioning amoeboid creatures with big kawaii eyes.


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Farix

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On 1/5/2010 12:58 AM, Andrew Floyd wrote:
>
> Sir,
>
> I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
> to it.
>
> If you don't like Moe, don't review it. Let someone else with plenty of
> respect do the job.
>
> Don't force yourself to like something you don't.

It's comments like this that shows how much of a moron you really are.
David is an anime reviewer and will watch just about every show that
airs during each season. As a reviewer, he gives his opinions and
explains his what he likes or dislikes about a show. If YOU don't like
his opinions, then YOU shouldn't read his reviews.

What is ridiculous is the idea that reviewers should only review the
shows that they "like" or avoid certain genres that they may not care
for. I know that some fans can be pretty defensive. Moe fans in
particular are notorious of attacking reviewers who gives a negative
review about a moe show. In fact, the problem is so prevacive that even
Zac and Justin has gone off about it on ANNCast.

Farix

Dave Watson

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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 07:58:33 +0000 (UTC), Giovanni Wassen wrote:

> Dave Watson wrote:
>
>> Who hasn't watched SnW yet (because he can't understand Japanese like
>> Dave B. does), but is getting a bit of a yuk out of the just-fansubbed
>> Spice and Wolf S2 bonus Stretching With Me.
>
> Hinako was much more fun.

That goes without saying, but this was a pretty cute parody of it.

Watson.

Dave Watson

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:36:01 -0600, Megane wrote:

> In article <15skehh2olvbw$.1i08w9up...@40tude.net>,
> Dave Watson <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Erm, did you read the part in the review where he said he likes Kamichu!
>> and Kannagi? He doesn't hate moe anime in general, he just hates anime
>> that he (subjectively) feels is bad, like Sora no Woto.
>
> Unfortunately the moe-blob and fanservice anime, with no redeeming
> quality aside from following a forumula of lolis, panty shots, upfronts,
> and the usual tired fanservice cliches ("They had no writing budget
> because they spent it all on virtual silicone and panties"), seems to to
> be taking over the anime schedule on Japanese TV these days. I guess it
> gets good DVD sales numbers in Japan, since sex sells, especially among
> the pervier otaku that Japan has no lack of, but it's nothing more than
> eye candy.
>
> I'm tired of all the gratuitious panty shots and face-in-breast shots.
> They are just so tired when not used in an obvious parody context. It's
> like the anime equivalent of adding a laugh track.

I hear you loud and clear, but it's not like that's the only type of anime
I'm seeking out. Right now I'm watching the DVDs of Narutaru - Shadow Star
which I scored a long time ago, but only got around to now. The main
characters are middle-schoolers, but the only bit of skin-type fan service
I've encountered so far came off as unnerving more than prurient, given the
context it was in. I read most of the manga of this, so I knew what I was
in for when I dropped the cash for it--a story that starts out a bit cute
but gets progressively darker.

>> Who hasn't watched SnW yet (because he can't understand Japanese like Dave
>> B. does), but is getting a bit of a yuk out of the just-fansubbed Spice and
>> Wolf S2 bonus Stretching With Me.
>
> What? I found it fansubbed a month ago.

Well, the file only stumbled into my field of vision just yesterday. Maybe
it's a different group than the one you have. Maybe I'm late to the party.
It happens sometimes.

Watson.

Massimo Sabbadini

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:24:33 -0500, Farix <dhstr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>for. I know that some fans can be pretty defensive. Moe fans in
>particular are notorious of attacking reviewers who gives a negative
>review about a moe show. In fact, the problem is so prevacive that even
>Zac and Justin has gone off about it on ANNCast.

I think that oftentimes the so-called "anime critics" tend to bash moe
shows just for the sake of feeling superior to the average otaku. (I'm
not talking about Dave now).
Speaking of Sora no Woto, I think it's definitely too early to say
that it's a show about nothing, since the post-war background may
provide some interesting drama. And the songs in the first episode
were all good except for the ending IMHO.

--
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Email: gohan(at)megane.it
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et bufaniformis Sadoquae sigilim" (De Vermis Mysteriis)

Dave Baranyi

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rob...@deadspam.com (Rob Kelk) wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 00:58:34 -0500, MrSh...@webtv.net (Andrew Floyd)
> wrote:
>
>>Sir,
>>
>>I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
>>to it.
>>
>>If you don't like Moe, don't review it. Let someone else with plenty of
>>respect do the job.
>>
>>Don't force yourself to like something you don't.
>
> He didn't say that he doesn't like moe; he said that he doesn't like
> moe-blob. There's a difference.
>
> And DaveB appears to review the first episode of *everything*.
>
>

Actually Rob, nowadays I don't bother with the first episodes of sequels
to series when I didn't like the original series. So there are usually a
number of new series each season that I don't bother with. This helps to
keep my viewing time within reason.

But I still try to see all of the new non-sequel series, even if I suspect
that they may not be to my liking, because I am usually surprised once or
twice each season with new series that catch my attention when I wasn't
expecting it.

Dave Baranyi

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers

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Andrew Floyd <MrSh...@webtv.net> wrote:
> I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
> to it.

You'll live.

cu
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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers

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Dave Baranyi <david_...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Sora no Woto?, aka, ?So Ra No Wo To?, aka, ?Boob Privates?, aka, ?Blow
> Moe? is a new original moe-fest anime being broadcast by TV Tokyo. In

> a fantasy world that has suffered from too much war, five moe girl
> soldiers staff a derelict castle in a town that looks like it is in
> Europe, but where people write in French but sign documents using
> Japanese kanji name stamps, and where Japanese festivals are
> celebrated by townsfolk who are dressed like they just stepped out of
> the set of ?Spice and Wolf?.

>
> Fifteen year old orphan moe-blob Kanata was inspired by a soldier girl
> with a trumpet to become a bugler in the Signal Corps. She is assigned
> to an isolated outpost located in an abandoned castle in a backwater
> town. There she runs into super bitchy moe-blob soldier Rio, and finds
> out that Rio is a skilled trumpeter. Kanata is thrilled by this
> because her bugle playing truly ?blows? and she is in terminal need of

> lessons.
>
> Besides being an incompetent musician, Kanata is also an idiot and
> almost kills herself several times in the first episode. The
> near-death experiences do nothing to improve Kanata's common sense or
> survival skills, but they do provide an opportunity for the audience
> to look at her panties. This provides a counterpoint to the repeated
> shots of Rio's cleavage.

Hm? Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I didn't notice
any panty or cleavage shots. And although Kanata certainly is a low watt
bulb, my impression of the first episode wasn't all too bad. (wasn't all
too good either, though)

Since I liked the scenery I'll probably try a couple more episode before
making my final decision.

Giovanni Wassen

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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:

>> Besides being an incompetent musician, Kanata is also an idiot and
>> almost kills herself several times in the first episode. The
>> near-death experiences do nothing to improve Kanata's common sense or
>> survival skills, but they do provide an opportunity for the audience
>> to look at her panties. This provides a counterpoint to the repeated
>> shots of Rio's cleavage.
>
> Hm? Perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I didn't notice
> any panty or cleavage shots.

I can recall one panty shot, when she was with Rio on the balcony of her
home. And having boobs equals shots of cleavage it seems, cause they really
didn't pay much attention to that.

Arnold Kim

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Question - do I need to watch this if I've already seen K-ON! ? Or is this
series pretty much Mio, Yui, et. al in military uniforms?

Arnold Kim


Dave Baranyi

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Dave Baranyi

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Hmmm - blank post... Sorry - I've still got to get used to this newsreader...

Arnold, I went into the first episode expecting something like "K-On visits
Pumpkin Scissors". And to a good extent, that's what I got. But I wasn't a K-On
fan, and there wasn't enough Pumpkin Scissors in it for me. If you liked both
series you may well like this one.

Dave Baranyi

Megane

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In article <8jvww8jxsevf$.16fciyj05f2wf$.d...@40tude.net>,
Dave Watson <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:

> I hear you loud and clear, but it's not like that's the only type of anime
> I'm seeking out. Right now I'm watching the DVDs of Narutaru - Shadow Star
> which I scored a long time ago, but only got around to now.

Narutaru isn't exactly recent, and predates the current flood of moe
crap. And I never said you were seeking out anything... the way things
are right now, the Soviet Moeblobs will find YOU.

Dave Watson

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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:09:54 -0600, Megane wrote:

> In article <8jvww8jxsevf$.16fciyj05f2wf$.d...@40tude.net>,
> Dave Watson <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I hear you loud and clear, but it's not like that's the only type of anime
>> I'm seeking out. Right now I'm watching the DVDs of Narutaru - Shadow Star
>> which I scored a long time ago, but only got around to now.
>
> Narutaru isn't exactly recent, and predates the current flood of moe
> crap.

No kidding, eh? When/where would people say that the current moe boom
started? I say it's a toss-up between Card Captor Sakura and Shinobu from
Love Hina.

> And I never said you were seeking out anything... the way things
> are right now, the Soviet Moeblobs will find YOU.

Sometimes they have, but let's face it, people here know where my interests
lay, and that is on the front side, between the armpits.

Watson.

Jim diGriz

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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:32:31 -0500, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> Galen wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:59:03 -0500, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>> <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You just made me wreck a keyboard. Well, in spirit, anyway, otherwise I
>>> couldn't type this.
>>>
>>> WTF is "Moe-blob"?
>>
>> A 0-dimensional character ("blob") drawn as cute
>> in a child-like way.
>
> Ah, I see. I was envisioning amoeboid creatures with big kawaii eyes.

And the difference is?

JdG

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)

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Amoeboid blobs don't have breasts or wear panties, in general.

Rob Kelk

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:20:42 -0500, Dave Watson
<dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:09:54 -0600, Megane wrote:
>
>> In article <8jvww8jxsevf$.16fciyj05f2wf$.d...@40tude.net>,
>> Dave Watson <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I hear you loud and clear, but it's not like that's the only type of anime
>>> I'm seeking out. Right now I'm watching the DVDs of Narutaru - Shadow Star
>>> which I scored a long time ago, but only got around to now.
>>
>> Narutaru isn't exactly recent, and predates the current flood of moe
>> crap.
>
>No kidding, eh? When/where would people say that the current moe boom
>started? I say it's a toss-up between Card Captor Sakura and Shinobu from
>Love Hina.

I know I've always considered Shinobu to be the poster girl for moe.

>> And I never said you were seeking out anything... the way things
>> are right now, the Soviet Moeblobs will find YOU.

Is it wrong that I read "Soviet Moeblobs" as "Silent Mobius", or was
that just wishful thinking? (After all, "Silent Mobius" has women
characters as opposed to girl characters.)

>Sometimes they have, but let's face it, people here know where my interests
>lay, and that is on the front side, between the armpits.

Speaking of moeblobs and where your interest lay, Mio from "K-On!" might
be a Honourable Mention for your site, maybe.

Captain Nerd

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In article <7qhvcl...@mid.individual.net>,

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers <usene...@planetcobalt.net> wrote:

> Andrew Floyd <MrSh...@webtv.net> wrote:
> > I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
> > to it.
>
> You'll live.

And where's the Larry and Curly appreciation, huh?

Cap.
(... yeah, yeah, I know, read the .sig ...)

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Captain Nerd

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In article <hi5272$t9t$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

> Jim diGriz wrote:
> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:32:31 -0500, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> >> Galen wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:59:03 -0500, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> >>> <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You just made me wreck a keyboard. Well, in spirit, anyway, otherwise I
> >>>> couldn't type this.
> >>>>
> >>>> WTF is "Moe-blob"?
> >>> A 0-dimensional character ("blob") drawn as cute
> >>> in a child-like way.
> >> Ah, I see. I was envisioning amoeboid creatures with big kawaii eyes.
> >
> > And the difference is?
> >
> > JdG
> >
>
> Amoeboid blobs don't have breasts or wear panties, in general.

Well, they *can*, it's just they get very droopy and messy...

Cap.
(... still marvelling at "Soviet Moeblobs" upthread ...)

Dave Baranyi

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Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:

> In article <7qhvcl...@mid.individual.net>,
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers <usene...@planetcobalt.net> wrote:
>
>> Andrew Floyd <MrSh...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> > I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
>> > to it.
>>
>> You'll live.
>
> And where's the Larry and Curly appreciation, huh?

In Niagara Falls, of course...

(Slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch...)

>
> Cap.
> (... yeah, yeah, I know, read the .sig ...)
>
>

Dave Baranyi

Captain Nerd

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In article
<B3777F01-718A-4B9B-9320-ADBC916F354E%david_...@yahoo.ca>,
Dave Baranyi <david_...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> Captain Nerd <cpt...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <7qhvcl...@mid.individual.net>,
> > Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers <usene...@planetcobalt.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Andrew Floyd <MrSh...@webtv.net> wrote:
> >> > I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
> >> > to it.
> >>
> >> You'll live.
> >
> > And where's the Larry and Curly appreciation, huh?
>
> In Niagara Falls, of course...
>
> (Slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch...)

Oh, a wise guy! Nyuck nyuck nyuck...

Cap.

Dave Watson

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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:12:03 GMT, Rob Kelk wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:20:42 -0500, Dave Watson
> <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:
>>Sometimes they have, but let's face it, people here know where my interests
>>lay, and that is on the front side, between the armpits.
> Speaking of moeblobs and where your interest lay, Mio from "K-On!" might
> be a Honourable Mention for your site, maybe.

Yeah, she's upfront compared to the washboards who make up the rest of
Houkago Tea Time, but I don't remember her even jiggling in the beach
episode. Feel free to jog my precision Swiss (cheese) memory if it needs
it.

Watson
Wondering if anime will ever get around to the odd/provocative/original
sort of women in music he leans toward without playing it for laughs.

Rob Kelk

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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:36:48 -0500, Dave Watson
<dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:12:03 GMT, Rob Kelk wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:20:42 -0500, Dave Watson
>> <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Sometimes they have, but let's face it, people here know where my interests
>>>lay, and that is on the front side, between the armpits.
>> Speaking of moeblobs and where your interest lay, Mio from "K-On!" might
>> be a Honourable Mention for your site, maybe.
>
>Yeah, she's upfront compared to the washboards who make up the rest of
>Houkago Tea Time, but I don't remember her even jiggling in the beach
>episode. Feel free to jog my precision Swiss (cheese) memory if it needs
>it.

I don't recall such a scene, either, just various mentions of her
bustline. But that was enough for Juubei-chan to get an Honourable
Mention...

(There's also a single mention that Yui's younger sister has a bigger
bustline than Yui. But Yui's definitely in the DFC /
Azumanga-Daioh-"Japanese" camp, so that doesn't mean much.)

>Watson
>Wondering if anime will ever get around to the odd/provocative/original
>sort of women in music he leans toward without playing it for laughs.

Maybe in a josei anime, if any ever get made...

Dave Watson

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On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:59:33 GMT, Rob Kelk wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:36:48 -0500, Dave Watson
> <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:12:03 GMT, Rob Kelk wrote:
>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:20:42 -0500, Dave Watson
>>> <dwbeing...@fuspamma.gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Sometimes they have, but let's face it, people here know where my interests
>>>>lay, and that is on the front side, between the armpits.
>>> Speaking of moeblobs and where your interest lay, Mio from "K-On!" might
>>> be a Honourable Mention for your site, maybe.
>>
>>Yeah, she's upfront compared to the washboards who make up the rest of
>>Houkago Tea Time, but I don't remember her even jiggling in the beach
>>episode. Feel free to jog my precision Swiss (cheese) memory if it needs
>>it.
>
> I don't recall such a scene, either, just various mentions of her
> bustline. But that was enough for Juubei-chan to get an Honourable
> Mention...

The only mention I remember in K-ON! is in that beach episode. Juubei-chan
got it pretty constantly. Again, refresh memory if need be.

> (There's also a single mention that Yui's younger sister has a bigger
> bustline than Yui. But Yui's definitely in the DFC /
> Azumanga-Daioh-"Japanese" camp, so that doesn't mean much.)

Have you ever noticed that "DFC" rhymes with "NFG"? Coincidence? I don't
think so.

>>Watson
>>Wondering if anime will ever get around to the odd/provocative/original
>>sort of women in music he leans toward without playing it for laughs.
> Maybe in a josei anime, if any ever get made...

In the few cases when women are portrayed as being into punk or metal, it's
always been for laughs (like Sawako Yamanaka in K-ON!). So far, the
closest is Nana Ozaki in Nana, and even then, she's no Polly Harvey or
Diamanda Galas. Hell, Kathleen Hanna would probably eat her alive.

Watson
Whose imagination is now whirring on what Janne Berset of the industrial
noise project Batcheeba or Karen Finley on full-on would do with this lot.

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers

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At the beginning of the second episode, Kanata hasn't made any progress
with the trumpet, so she's ordered to practice with just the mouthpiece
for the time being.

Next up is breakfast, where Kanata is officially introduced to the other
platoon members:

- Felicia, the meganekko^Wsquad leader.
- Kureha, the tsunderekko^Wtank gunner.
- Noel, the indispensable silent character^W^W^Wtank pilot and mechanic.

After breakfast Kanata is shown around the fort by Kureha, who takes the
opportunity to tries to establish her seniority over Kanata. The "tour de
fort" also includes the partly disassembled tank of the squad. Which
made me wonder: how the heck did that thing get there when the fort is
connected to the town by a narrow bridge that's little more than a
catwalk?

When Noel reports that she has discovered a ghost in one of the
buildings, Kureha and Kanata are sent in on a reconnaissance mission.
However, they don't discover much besides a run-down building and a
bunch of rats. The supposed ghost turns out to be an owl, which is taken
in as the squad's mascot after being wounded by a bullet that Kureha
fires in a panic attack.

All in all not much new in this episode. The scenery was nice, the girls
were cute, but nothing really stood out in any way. Except for the squad
being the least military military unit I've ever seen, perhaps.

I'm still undecided whether this is worth my while or not.

Massimo Sabbadini

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On 14 Jan 2010 21:28:02 GMT, Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
<usene...@planetcobalt.net> wrote:

>made me wonder: how the heck did that thing get there when the fort is
>connected to the town by a narrow bridge that's little more than a
>catwalk?
>

The tank had legs but they are currently broken. I suppose that the
tank is the "giant spider" of the local legends.

>All in all not much new in this episode. The scenery was nice, the girls

You didn't pick up on many clues about this post-apocalyptic world.
Kureha said that even the biggest school in the Capital doesn't have
that many students, implying that the population is dwindling.
They couldn't read old school books written in Japanese; Kanata also
said that music is currently only taught in the army (and this
explains why she enrolled). They also looked at a map which showed
that Seize is near a so-called No Man's Land.
I am liking all this little tidbits about the Sora-no-Woto world. They
got me intrigued.

Chris Sobieniak

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On Jan 7, 9:42 pm, Captain Nerd <cptn...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
> In article <hi5272$t9...@news.eternal-september.org>,

I'm glad I don't stay up to date on these!

Captain Nerd

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In article
<b0de7e86-1472-4ee7...@r19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Chris Sobieniak <sobi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 7, 9:42�pm, Captain Nerd <cptn...@nerdwatch.com> wrote:
> > In article <hi5272$t9...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > �"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Jim diGriz wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:32:31 -0500, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> > > >> Galen wrote:
> > > >>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:59:03 -0500, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> > > >>> <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> You just made me wreck a keyboard. Well, in spirit, anyway,
> > > >>>> otherwise I
> > > >>>> couldn't type this.
> >
> > > >>>> � WTF is "Moe-blob"?
> > > >>> A 0-dimensional character ("blob") drawn as cute
> > > >>> in a child-like way.
> > > >> � Ah, I see. I was envisioning amoeboid creatures with big kawaii
> > > >> eyes.
> >
> > > > And the difference is?
> >
> > > > JdG
> >
> > > � �Amoeboid blobs don't have breasts or wear panties, in general.
> >
> > � �Well, they *can*, it's just they get very droopy and messy...
> >
> > � �Cap.
> > � �(... still marvelling at "Soviet Moeblobs" upthread ...)
>

> I'm glad I don't stay up to date on these!

And well you should be, you never know when crap like I posted
explodes out of the newsgroup like the chestburster in that
movie...

"Spaceballs" I think it was...

Cap.

sanjian

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Andrew Floyd wrote:
> Sir,

>
> I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
> to it.
>
> If you don't like Moe, don't review it. Let someone else with plenty
> of respect do the job.
>
> Don't force yourself to like something you don't.

Relax. It's the going thing in this among the blowhards on this group (and
fandom in general) like to take a more "enlightened" view of their anime.
Sit back and enjoy the series. I certainly intend to.

And, no, I'm not taking it for the team. If I decide to write on it, I
will. If not, c'est la vie.


Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers

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Massimo Sabbadini <go...@megane.it> wrote:

> On 14 Jan 2010 21:28:02 GMT, Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>> made me wonder: how the heck did that thing get there when the fort
>> is connected to the town by a narrow bridge that's little more than a
>> catwalk?
>
> The tank had legs but they are currently broken.

True. However, legs or not, that is still one fragile-looking bridge.

> I suppose that the tank is the "giant spider" of the local legends.

Interesting thought. Kureha calls it "a treasure from the past", so that
is a definite possibility.

>> All in all not much new in this episode.
>

> You didn't pick up on many clues about this post-apocalyptic world.
> Kureha said that even the biggest school in the Capital doesn't have
> that many students, implying that the population is dwindling. They
> couldn't read old school books written in Japanese; Kanata also said
> that music is currently only taught in the army (and this explains why
> she enrolled). They also looked at a map which showed that Seize is
> near a so-called No Man's Land.

It's not that I didn't pick them up, but rather that I considered them
negligeable, since there was little more than what you described above.
Small, rather illiterate populace, and a fortress that doesn't really
have anything to defend against. Perhaps I should have mentioned the
latter part, but I found the location rather fitting for an un-military
squad like that, so I left it at that.

Chika

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In article <hi5272$t9t$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> Jim diGriz wrote:
> > On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:32:31 -0500, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> >> Galen wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:59:03 -0500, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> >>> <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You just made me wreck a keyboard. Well, in spirit, anyway,
> >>>> otherwise I couldn't type this.
> >>>>
> >>>> WTF is "Moe-blob"?
> >>> A 0-dimensional character ("blob") drawn as cute
> >>> in a child-like way.
> >> Ah, I see. I was envisioning amoeboid creatures with big kawaii eyes.
> >
> > And the difference is?
> >
> > JdG
> >

> Amoeboid blobs don't have breasts or wear panties, in general.

Except Princess Vina (Dragon Half). ^_^

--
//\ // Chika <miyuki><at><crashnet><org><uk>
// \// Hazukashii serifu kinshii!!

... Is knowledge knowable, and how do we know?

Chika

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In article <dMadnbvn6_wXI87W...@posted.internetamerica>,

sanjian <mill...@airmail.net> wrote:
> Andrew Floyd wrote:
> > Sir,
> >
> > I took offense at the rather blatant dislike of Moe and the references
> > to it.
> >
> > If you don't like Moe, don't review it. Let someone else with plenty
> > of respect do the job.

A reviewer expresses their opinion. They don't expect everyone to agree
with it. My belief, however, is that a reviewer should at least be honest
about how a particular show affects them and if that offends you, then
hard luck.

> > Don't force yourself to like something you don't.

> Relax. It's the going thing in this among the blowhards on this group
> (and fandom in general) like to take a more "enlightened" view of their
> anime. Sit back and enjoy the series. I certainly intend to.

> And, no, I'm not taking it for the team. If I decide to write on it, I
> will. If not, c'est la vie.

Got to admit it, but I only just heard of the term "moeblob" myself
recently when somebody mentioned it in passing. It certainly gave me a
giggle, especially as it seems that there is some room for
misinterpretation. Always good for triggering a good argument, is that!

As for Sora no Woto, I've seen the first ep. so far and I get a distinct
feeling of deja-vu. It seems a bit formula. I can recognise some of the
charas as almost identical copies from other shows, themselves being
copied to the extent that they might be considered characature. However
one ep. isn't enough for me to go on, especially with the habit of
misdirection that anime has these days. I suspect that "moeblob", in and
of itself, may be insufficient to describe the cast. We shall see, shan't
we?

--
//\ // Chika <miyuki><at><crashnet><org><uk>
// \// Hazukashii serifu kinshii!!

... 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers

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After five episodes I decided to drop "sora no woto".

As a mere "cute girls" show the anime would be fine, but in my book
"cute girls" and military simply don't mix. It might be different if
there were any noticeable progress regarding the "Fire Maiden" legend,
but I fail to see any. Right now it's just a run-off-the-mill "cute
girls doing stupid things" show, and IMO the characters worked *way*
better in "K-ON!".

Final rating: 6/10

sanjian

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Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> After five episodes I decided to drop "sora no woto".
>
> As a mere "cute girls" show the anime would be fine, but in my book
> "cute girls" and military simply don't mix. It might be different if
> there were any noticeable progress regarding the "Fire Maiden" legend,
> but I fail to see any. Right now it's just a run-off-the-mill "cute
> girls doing stupid things" show, and IMO the characters worked *way*
> better in "K-ON!".

Whereas I'm still enjoying it. The military needs more cute girls.


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