DELGO... so...uh..who's gonna save it from the abyss?
mrman1...@lycos.com
I heard about it by ACCIDENT (scuttlebutt from a radio show that was
having their weekly discussion about movies). I've been busy the last
few weeks, but I saw NO ads for it at all, unlike the Keanu Reeves and
Punisher films. Heck, Happily N'Ever After had a more prominent
advertising campaign.
I'm scanning my broadcast TV Saturday morning timeshifts to any trace
of traditional marketing, but I'm not expecting much. Unlike
Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network got a blanket campaign going, this
could be the first wide-release (2000+ screens) animated film with
nothing but viral marketing to support it.
Despite playing in dozens of DC-area theaters, it doesn't seem to be
playing withing the city, on the inner surburbs. This seems to be an
exurban screening campaign.
This may be the cost of independent development: The film may have
grossed less than $300 *PER* *SCREEN*, as a result of the crappy
marketing campaign.
Did ANYONE see ads for this one?
Terrence Briggs, not even sure he got the TITLE right, it's so generic.
Derek Janssen
> So about Delgo...uh...who's gonna save it from the abyss?
>
> I heard about it by ACCIDENT (scuttlebutt from a radio show that was
> having their weekly discussion about movies). I've been busy the last
> few weeks, but I saw NO ads for it at all, unlike the Keanu Reeves and
> Punisher films. Heck, Happily N'Ever After had a more prominent
> advertising campaign.
>
> This may be the cost of independent development: The film may have
> grossed less than $300 *PER* *SCREEN*, as a result of the crappy
> marketing campaign.
"The marketing campaign", again. Is that an actual independent theory,
or was *that* bit of studio spin heard by accident, too?
(In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly contributed
to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
LIKE...) >_<
> Did ANYONE see ads for this one?
Uh, yeah--About a year or two of them, mostly online, after it wandered
from
>
> Terrence Briggs, not even sure he got the TITLE right, it's so generic.
That it is, that it is...
And normally, like that "Ten Commandments" thing, a third-party indie
mom-and-pop videogame/ad-company "audition" CGI film with Val Kilmer on
paycheck voicework (at least, one that wasn't foreign and grabbed up for
Weinstein dubbing) would get one week in 10 midwest theaters, to legally
qualify it for a DVD release, and then hope for Wal-mart kiddie sales
with their fingers crossed.
But somehow, it didn't stay that way--
Either the producers got overconfident from some minor festival awards,
or thought "The coast is clear...This's our BIG CHANCE! @_@ " after
noticing there were no *real* big-studio children's-films scheduled for
that December Christmas-vacation money-week, and the "billboard" release
suddenly ballooned into a "real-movie" 2000+ screens, like "Space
Chimps" had.
...Their loss, not ours. Poor saps. -_-
Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net
Derek Janssen
> mrman1...@lycos.com wrote:
>
>> So about Delgo...uh...who's gonna save it from the abyss?
>>
>> I heard about it by ACCIDENT (scuttlebutt from a radio show that was
>> having their weekly discussion about movies). I've been busy the last
>> few weeks, but I saw NO ads for it at all, unlike the Keanu Reeves and
>> Punisher films. Heck, Happily N'Ever After had a more prominent
>> advertising campaign.
>
>> Did ANYONE see ads for this one?
>
>
> Uh, yeah--About a year or two of them, mostly online, after it wandered
> from
(Oops, sorry: )
> pushback to pushback, in and out of actual studio or indie release, or wondering whether to make their quietus with a bare direct-video...
> For a while, just assumed it was going to hang around online trailer sites for the next *two* years, like some Variety starving-actor ad.
Derek Janssen (who never likes to leave quips interrupted)
eja...@verizon.net
Bill Anderson
>
> Despite playing in dozens of DC-area theaters, it doesn't seem to be
> playing withing the city, on the inner surburbs. This seems to be an
> exurban screening campaign.
>
It's playing at Union Station.
--
Bill Anderson
I am the Mighty Favog
mrman1...@lycos.com
Thank you, sir. But... DUH... Google-fu. I'm out of practice, folks:
http://www.google.com/movies?hl=en&near=dc&dq=delgo+near+DC&sort=1&mid=69edb9723a4b4bea&sa=X&oi=showtimes&ct=movie-link&cd=2
The search string is:
"Delgo near [zip code]"
Just pug in your zip code, and you'll find out if the funny movie
title is taking up space on a marquee near you. I know that *I*
wasn't paying close enough attention.
Terrence Briggs, rented Dark Knight last weekend. Will everyone
PLEASE calm the heck down?
Anim8rFSK
Derek Janssen <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> (In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly contributed
> to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
> LIKE...) >_<
Nope. Showing what the film looked like would only scare away viewers.
--
Bad Reboot's 'Crap Trek' 2009: "No Shat, No Show"
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
There was a Delgo trailer at "Bolt". The animation didn't look great, but
the concept didn't look too bad. I was considering seeing it until
I read some reviews.
Ted
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Juan F. Lara
That's odd. I saw tons of "Delgo" ads during the new shows Cartoon
Network shows on Thursdays and Fridays.
The semester at Greenville Tech just ended and so I quickly caught a
"Delgo" screening Monday afternoon. I got to the theater five minutes late,
but they hadn't bothered to start the film yet as no one had bought any ticket
for it until I did. After a lot of stress finishing grading labs and final
exams I needed the relaxation of zoning out to a non-challenging movie in a
theater all to myself. :-)
SPOILER WARNING
What about "Delgo"? It was better than "Clone Wars". :-) To tell the truth, I
felt lukewarm to it. It started with a decent idea about ethnic tensions, with
one group forced into competing with the other group's resources due to their
dying homeland. They could've taken advantage of the freedom the fantasy
setting offered to comment on this touchy subject. But they fell back on the
cliche explanation that it's all the fault of one really bad apple, the movie's
villainness. The many writers also came up with only superficial
personalities for the two bland leads. It doesn't help that the film
dedicated an astonishingly large fraction of time on some abysmal comic relief
characters, or that the fight sequences were ineptly staged. And you already
know from the trailer about the exceptionally uninspired character design.
Second rate "Star Trek" aliens with funny looking colorations stuck on human
bodies, the two main species having such humanlike bodies was a big turn off
for me, with a few unemployed Orks thrown in.
Trivia: This is Anne Bancroft's last movie. Incidentally, Bancroft died in
2005. I think the project was several years old even by then. It's curious
how this indy project got so many name voices. Of those, though, Val Kilmer
was the only to come out looking good, having the most complex role of a career
soldier who grew disturbed over the years after having participated in a
massacre.
- Juan F. Lara
Kimba W Lion
>"The marketing campaign", again. Is that an actual independent theory,
>or was *that* bit of studio spin heard by accident, too?
Well, people aren't going to go to a movie if they don't know it exists.
I never heard of Delgo until it hit the news Monday.
>(In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly contributed
>to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
>LIKE...) >_<
And so I should be glad I was spared beforehand. Checking it out, I see
lizard furries, fairies, and other such things on my Least Favorite Things
list. Die, monster, die!
--
Who is Obama's Favorite Citizen? You could be...
http://tinyurl.com/ObamasFav
Paul S. Person
wrote:
<snippo>
>Thank you, sir. But... DUH... Google-fu. I'm out of practice, folks:
>http://www.google.com/movies?hl=en&near=dc&dq=delgo+near+DC&sort=1&mid=69edb9723a4b4bea&sa=X&oi=showtimes&ct=movie-link&cd=2
>
>The search string is:
>"Delgo near [zip code]"
>
>Just pug in your zip code, and you'll find out if the funny movie
>title is taking up space on a marquee near you. I know that *I*
>wasn't paying close enough attention.
That worked great! Looks like its playing exactly the same place
/Space Chimps/ played. I avoided /Space Chimps/; I think I'll avoid
/Delgo/ as well.
I mean, if they don't even bother to show it where I can get to it
without a major expedition, how good can it be?
--
"A portent, therefore, happens not contrary to nature,
but contrary to what we know as nature."
Invid Fan
<lj...@ces.clemson.edu> wrote:
> Trivia: This is Anne Bancroft's last movie. Incidentally, Bancroft died in
> 2005. I think the project was several years old even by then. It's curious
> how this indy project got so many name voices. Of those, though, Val Kilmer
> was the only to come out looking good, having the most complex role of a
> career
> soldier who grew disturbed over the years after having participated in a
> massacre.
>
I wonder how many actors have had their last movie to be released be an
animated one.
--
Chris Mack *quote under construction*
'Invid Fan'
Anim8rFSK
Invid Fan <in...@loclanet.com> wrote:
With DELGO setting 'worst ever' records, we might get several more right
here.
Patrick McNamara
"Invid Fan" <in...@loclanet.com> wrote in message
news:181220081223539567%in...@loclanet.com...
I believe Tony Jay's last movie was also animated, but he practically
retired to doing all animation by then.
For the most part, an actor dying shortly after a film was made is usually a
sign of it being a bad film. The recent Batman film was one of the
exceptions.
--
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Paul S. Person
<writer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Invid Fan" <in...@loclanet.com> wrote in message
>news:181220081223539567%in...@loclanet.com...
>> In article <gicqlt$c7k$1...@hubcap.clemson.edu>, Juan F. Lara
>> <lj...@ces.clemson.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Trivia: This is Anne Bancroft's last movie. Incidentally, Bancroft died
>>> in
>>> 2005. I think the project was several years old even by then. It's
>>> curious
>>> how this indy project got so many name voices. Of those, though, Val
>>> Kilmer
>>> was the only to come out looking good, having the most complex role of a
>>> career
>>> soldier who grew disturbed over the years after having participated in a
>>> massacre.
>>>
>> I wonder how many actors have had their last movie to be released be an
>> animated one.
>
>I believe Tony Jay's last movie was also animated, but he practically
>retired to doing all animation by then.
>
>For the most part, an actor dying shortly after a film was made is usually a
>sign of it being a bad film. The recent Batman film was one of the
>exceptions.
While /The Dark Knight/ is certainly better than some films (/Batman
Begins/, for example), that does not make it "not a bad film". It is
certainly not (IMHO) a good film.
Joseph Nebus
>For the most part, an actor dying shortly after a film was made is usually a
>sign of it being a bad film. The recent Batman film was one of the
>exceptions.
It is an odd association, really, to suppose an actor's death
presages film badness. But I suppose superstitions can't be expected
to make logical sense.
By the way, The Onion AV Club is doing its part to save Delgo
from the abyss:
http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/my_year_of_flops_floppiest_flop
--
Joseph Nebus
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Derek Janssen
> "Patrick McNamara" <writer...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>>For the most part, an actor dying shortly after a film was made is usually a
>>sign of it being a bad film. The recent Batman film was one of the
>>exceptions.
>
> It is an odd association, really, to suppose an actor's death
> presages film badness. But I suppose superstitions can't be expected
> to make logical sense.
It dates back to old grudges about why Peter Sellers had to grind out
"Fiendish Plot of Fu Manchu" before dying right after "Being There"... :(
(Which is a way of saying it also means an actor's "last" film was
usually shelved-bad, and released later to cash in on notoriety.)
Derek Janssen (Oliver Reed in "Gladiator" also being one of the exceptions)
eja...@verizon.net
Papa Lazarou
>"Patrick McNamara" <writer...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>For the most part, an actor dying shortly after a film was made is usually a
>>sign of it being a bad film. The recent Batman film was one of the
>>exceptions.
>
> It is an odd association, really, to suppose an actor's death
>presages film badness. But I suppose superstitions can't be expected
>to make logical sense.
>
> By the way, The Onion AV Club is doing its part to save Delgo
>from the abyss:
>
>http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/my_year_of_flops_floppiest_flop
"Delgo is perhaps the floppiest flop ever to saunter floppily into
flopsville and become Dean Of Failure At Flopsville State University."
These drawn-out wordy contortions were always the weakest jokes in the
otherwise immaculate Blackadder series. I mean, if you're gonna
plagiarize from such a high calibre source then at least steal the
goodies.
Derek Janssen
>>
>> By the way, The Onion AV Club is doing its part to save Delgo
>
>>from the abyss:
>
>>http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/my_year_of_flops_floppiest_flop
>
> "Delgo is perhaps the floppiest flop ever to saunter floppily into
> flopsville and become Dean Of Failure At Flopsville State University."
>
> These drawn-out wordy contortions were always the weakest jokes in the
> otherwise immaculate Blackadder series. I mean, if you're gonna
> plagiarize from such a high calibre source then at least steal the
> goodies.
The early extended Blackadder II & Third jokes at least used a little
variety:
"Baldrick, you wouldn't *see* a Subtle Plan, if it painted itself purple
and danced naked on a harpsichord, singing 'Subtle plans are here again'."
Round about the fourth season (and the painfully unfunny revival movie)
is when the running-jokes started turning mechanical, and Same-Word
Alliteration was now funny:
"Thicker than clotted cream that so clotted, you couldn't DE-clot it
with an electric de-clotter."
...On the upside, at least cheap columnists aren't joking about
"Treasure Planet" anymore. :)
Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net
Ken from Chicago
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-AC2F8...@news.west.cox.net...
> In article <%Ui2l.358$P5....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
> Derek Janssen <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> (In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly contributed
>> to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
>> LIKE...) >_<
>
> Nope. Showing what the film looked like would only scare away viewers.
Another generic fantasy film about a male lead who has to be pushed and
pulled into being the hero by the female lead who should by all rights be
said hero instead?
-- Ken from Chicago
Anim8rFSK
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
Why... do they think ugly designs would appeal to kids?
Laters. =)
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S.t.A.n.L.e.E <LostRu...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote:
>
>
>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 8:07pm-0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>:
>
>> In article <XI2dnQPhdJVQOM7U...@giganews.com>,
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:ANIM8Rfsk-AC2F8...@news.west.cox.net...
>> > > In article <%Ui2l.358$P5....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
>> > > Derek Janssen <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> (In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly contributed
>> > >> to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
>> > >> LIKE...) >_<
>> > >
>> > > Nope. Showing what the film looked like would only scare away viewers.
>> >
>> > Another generic fantasy film about a male lead who has to be pushed and
>> > pulled into being the hero by the female lead who should by all rights be
>> > said hero instead?
>>
>> With ugly character design and worse animation.
>>
>
>Why... do they think ugly designs would appeal to kids?
>
That's the only explanation I can think of for most of Cartoon Network's
shows!
Ken from Chicago
Wow, so where and when is the showtime?
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Ted Nolan <tednolan>" <t...@loft.tnolan.com> wrote in message
news:rj_4l.12853$mw2....@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Or it's animated so kids will watch, but not so expensive so the network can
afford it.
-- Ken from Chicago
Anim8rFSK
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-ACE9A...@news.west.cox.net...
> > In article <XI2dnQPhdJVQOM7U...@giganews.com>,
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> news:ANIM8Rfsk-AC2F8...@news.west.cox.net...
> >> > In article <%Ui2l.358$P5....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
> >> > Derek Janssen <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> (In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly
> >> >> contributed
> >> >> to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
> >> >> LIKE...) >_<
> >> >
> >> > Nope. Showing what the film looked like would only scare away viewers.
> >>
> >> Another generic fantasy film about a male lead who has to be pushed and
> >> pulled into being the hero by the female lead who should by all rights be
> >> said hero instead?
> >
> > With ugly character design and worse animation.
>
> Wow, so where and when is the showtime?
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
There are a couple trailers and shots of the designs (as well as quotes
comparing them to Pixar) on the company website, assuming it's still up
:D
Anim8rFSK
Yeah, we always cringed when Klasky came out with a new show. I never
could bring myself to work on Rugrats or Ginger. I managed to overcome
it for Thornberrys 'cause the characters were appealing enough to
overcome the art.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
It's possible to have nice character designs with limited animation. That's
how Hannah Barbera jump started TV cartoons after all. There's just no
excuse for some of the CN stuff like Flapjack, Chowder or Camp Lazlo that
just hurts my eyes too look at.
Derek Janssen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly
>>>>>>>contributed
>>>>>>>to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
>>>>>>>LIKE...) >_<
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nope. Showing what the film looked like would only scare away
>>>>>>viewers.
>>>>>
>>>>>Another generic fantasy film about a male lead who has to be pushed and
>>>>>pulled into being the hero by the female lead who should by all rights
>>>>>be
>>>>>said hero instead?
>>>>
>>>>With ugly character design and worse animation.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Why... do they think ugly designs would appeal to kids?
>>>
>>
>>That's the only explanation I can think of for most of Cartoon Network's
>>shows!
>
>
> Yeah, we always cringed when Klasky came out with a new show. I never
> could bring myself to work on Rugrats or Ginger. I managed to overcome
> it for Thornberrys 'cause the characters were appealing enough to
> overcome the art.
Well, er...
<brushes thread-drift off of shoes> 6_6
...that's all very NICE, but when the animation looks like overdone
Playstation cut-scenes, giving the impression it was made by some
industrial CGI studio that wanted to do an "easy" feature without
clearly understanding How Pixar Does It, that's even worse.
Derek Janssen (some badness you must never, *never* genericize)
eja...@verizon.net
Mr. P
> So about Delgo...uh...who's gonna save it from the abyss?
>
> I heard about it by ACCIDENT (scuttlebutt from a radio show that was
> having their weekly discussion about movies). I've been busy the last
> few weeks, but I saw NO ads for it at all, unlike the Keanu Reeves and
> Punisher films. Heck, Happily N'Ever After had a more prominent
> advertising campaign.
>
> I'm scanning my broadcast TV Saturday morning timeshifts to any trace of
> traditional marketing, but I'm not expecting much. Unlike Nickelodeon
> and Cartoon Network got a blanket campaign going, this could be the
> first wide-release (2000+ screens) animated film with nothing but viral
> marketing to support it.
>
> Despite playing in dozens of DC-area theaters, it doesn't seem to be
> playing withing the city, on the inner surburbs. This seems to be an
> exurban screening campaign.
>
> This may be the cost of independent development: The film may have
> grossed less than $300 *PER* *SCREEN*, as a result of the crappy
> marketing campaign.
>
> Did ANYONE see ads for this one?
>
> Terrence Briggs, not even sure he got the TITLE right, it's so generic.
I was browsing through the groups when I came across this post and the
first thought that came to mind was - 'they actually finished Delgo!?'. I
remember when they started this film way back when. Back then I had
already been doing CG for a few years and was interested in anything CG
coming down the pipeline since there really weren't that many projects.
At the time it seemed like this film had a chance, but as time went on it
became obvious that these 'filmmakers' were doing the film out of ego and
not for the love of making a film. I used to go the CG boards a lot back
then and I would constantly see them posting jobs for artists so you got
a chance to hear how Delgo was being made and it was amazing at how
arrogant the filmmakers were. Many artist (who actually worked on the
film) posted flames about Delgo and it's makers, saying that they were
only worried about getting the thing out the door and couldn't care less
about quality or the story. You'll never find these posts because Fathom
threatened to sue the board's owner if they didn't lock them or take them
down. This was how Fathom worked - you say something nice or you don't
say nothing at all. Eventually people forgot about Delgo and I stopped
going to the boards, so I thought the picture died just like many other
indie projects, but it seems I was wrong.
It's hard for me to feel any pity for Fathom because, after seeing how
they treated their own artists, I wanted them to fail. I do feel pity for
the artists that had to work on this project... I doubt anyone wants
Delgo on their resume. Don't get me wrong, there's been tons of indie
animations that sucked (I even made 4 films that sucked-ass) but you knew
all those filmmakers, no matter how bad their film was, was making the
film out of fun. Indies don't have the resources to produce Pixar quality
work - that's just a CG indie reality. I've always supported CG indies
because it can take them years just to make one short film that nobody
will watch, unlike live-action indies who can kick out a feature film in
a few months. But that's not the case with Fathom - ego got them into
this mess and they got what they deserved.
mrman1...@lycos.com
+...@UofR.SlamSpam.net> wrote:
> Thu, 25 Dec 2008 8:07pm-0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>:
> > In article <XI2dnQPhdJVQOM7UnZ2dnUVZ_qXin...@giganews.com>,
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >news:ANIM8Rfsk-AC2F8...@news.west.cox.net...
> > > > In article <%Ui2l.358$P5....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
> > > > Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > >> (In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly contributed
> > > >> to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
> > > >> LIKE...) >_<
>
> > > > Nope. Showing what the film looked like would only scare away viewers.
>
> > > Another generic fantasy film about a male lead who has to be pushed and
> > > pulled into being the hero by the female lead who should by all rights be
> > > said hero instead?
>
> > With ugly character design and worse animation.
>
> Why... do they think ugly designs would appeal to kids?
Two words:
Spongebob Squarepants
Fairly Oddparents
et cetera
Precedence set.
> Laters. =)
Terrence Briggs, in brief
Peace to you...
mrman1...@lycos.com
On Dec 17, 9:51 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> mrman1mrm...@lycos.com wrote:
> > So about Delgo...uh...who's gonna save it from the abyss?
>
> > I heard about it by ACCIDENT (scuttlebutt from a radio show that was
> > having their weekly discussion about movies). I've been busy the last
> > few weeks, but I saw NO ads for it at all, unlike the Keanu Reeves and
> > Punisher films. Heck, Happily N'Ever After had a more prominent
> > advertising campaign.
>
> > This may be the cost of independent development: The film may have
> > grossed less than $300 *PER* *SCREEN*, as a result of the crappy
> > marketing campaign.
>
> "The marketing campaign", again. Is that an actual independent theory,
> or was *that* bit of studio spin heard by accident, too?
>
> (In a sense, "the marketing campaign" *could* have tangibly contributed
> to the poor box office, in that it SHOWED US WHAT THE FILM LOOKED
> LIKE...) >_<
Okay... so... why did Hoodwinked make so much money?
> > Did ANYONE see ads for this one?
>
> Uh, yeah--About a year or two of them, mostly online, after it wandered
> from
> pushback to pushback, in and out of actual studio or indie release, or wondering whether to make their quietus with a bare direct-video...
> For a while, just assumed it was going to hang around online trailer sites for the next *two* years, like some Variety starving-actor ad.
Juan Lara stated in another post that he saw Cartoon Network ads. In
terms of marketing penetration, I'd say that's signifcantly more
telling than a series of online ads :-)
> > Terrence Briggs, not even sure he got the TITLE right, it's so generic.
>
> That it is, that it is...
> And normally, like that "Ten Commandments" thing, a third-party indie
> mom-and-pop videogame/ad-company "audition" CGI film with Val Kilmer on
> paycheck voicework (at least, one that wasn't foreign and grabbed up for
> Weinstein dubbing) would get one week in 10 midwest theaters, to legally
> qualify it for a DVD release, and then hope for Wal-mart kiddie sales
> with their fingers crossed.
>
> But somehow, it didn't stay that way--
> Either the producers got overconfident from some minor festival awards,
> or thought "The coast is clear...This's our BIG CHANCE! @_@ " after
> noticing there were no *real* big-studio children's-films scheduled for
> that December Christmas-vacation money-week, and the "billboard" release
> suddenly ballooned into a "real-movie" 2000+ screens, like "Space
> Chimps" had.
>
> ...Their loss, not ours. Poor saps. -_-
>
> Derek Janssen
> ejan...@verizon.net
Terrence Briggs, piecing out brilliance, piecemeal :-)
Peace to you...
S.t.A.n.L.e.E
I don't think they're ugly.
Stylistic, yeah.