The original Charlie Brown and Lucy voices.
G&L
Adult actors who were the original voices of Lucy and Charlie Brown were
interviewed. Sorry don't have their names in front of me but the girl
was especially a familiar face in the 60s and 70s (She was a once little
girl on Star Trek and the daughter on the Paul Lynde Show, etc.).
Anyways this is a Mark Evanier type of question: those two were cast
together on other shows, right? Were they also the boy and girl on
Curiosity Shop* and Cookie and Alexander on Blondie ('68/'69 CBS) or is
my mind playing tricks on me?
Gerard
(*watched that show all the time- had the only recurring role of a
character named "Gerard")
Steve Carras
>From: G&L hous...@telus.net
>Date: 12/17/01 10:54 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <3C1EE879...@telus.net>
Not the first Lucy voice but one of them Pam Ferdin, was on many shows like the
ones you've mentioned. Sally Dryer (who did not play Sally :))M played the 1965
Lucy.
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gca...@aol.comcomcom (Steve Carras) wrote:
> Not the first Lucy voice but one of them Pam Ferdin, was on many
> shows like the ones you've mentioned.
I hear Pam Ferdin is a real nut job now.
See ya
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>
>In article [6]<20011218025232...@mb-fi.aol.com>,
>gca...@aol.comcomcom (Steve Carras) wrote:
>
>> Not the first Lucy voice but one of them Pam Ferdin, was on many
>> shows like the ones you've mentioned.
>
>I hear Pam Ferdin is a real nut job now.
Damn, you beat me to it, guy! Pamelynn (yes, not "Pamela") Ferdin
went WAY newage (it rhymes with "sewage") in the 'eighties and is now a
grade A flake!
Garrison Hilliard
>
>In article [6]<20011218025232...@mb-fi.aol.com>,
>gca...@aol.comcomcom (Steve Carras) wrote:
>
>> Not the first Lucy voice but one of them Pam Ferdin, was on many
>> shows like the ones you've mentioned.
>
>I hear Pam Ferdin is a real nut job now.
Did I mention that she has her own website www.pamferdin.com now?
ANIM8Rfsk
where you can read such tidbits as:
"Pamelyn once said, "We have no children as I feel that until every child has a
home (just like every companion animal), people should not breed!""
1/12/00 According to this press release from the Last Chance for Animals,
Pamelyn Ferdin has been arrested in Los Angeles for possessing a large stick
during a protest at a circus.
ah, and a link to the official site
Stephen W. Worth
anim...@aol.comNOSPAM (ANIM8Rfsk) wrote:
> 1/12/00 According to this press release from the Last Chance for Animals,
> Pamelyn Ferdin has been arrested in Los Angeles for possessing a large stick
> during a protest at a circus.
It figures that Lucy would try to ruin the circus for all the
other kids.
Metlhd3138
>
>Damn, you beat me to it, guy! Pamelynn (yes, not "Pamela") Ferdin
>went WAY newage (it rhymes with "sewage") in the 'eighties and is now a
>grade A flake!
I thought she was called "Mother Shabooboo" now
(10 pts to anyone who gets that joke)
G&L
Steve Carras wrote:
> .
>
> Not the first Lucy voice but one of them Pam Ferdin, was on many shows like the
> ones you've mentioned. Sally Dryer (who did not play Sally :))M played the 1965
> Lucy.
Thanks Steve. So then her and the Charlie Brwon voice were Cookie and Alexander and
on Curiosity Shop?
Gerard
Garrison Hilliard
Homer Simpson's cousin. Later became Cousin Francene, then
joined a cult and became Mother Shabooboo.
(Also one of Howard Stern's aliases)
G&L
"Stephen W. Worth" wrote:
> In article <20011218025232...@mb-fi.aol.com>,
> gca...@aol.comcomcom (Steve Carras) wrote:
>
> > Not the first Lucy voice but one of them Pam Ferdin, was on many
> > shows like the ones you've mentioned.
>
> I hear Pam Ferdin is a real nut job now.
Just visted her site . I think I'll get my answer soon.
Being passionate about (anything) animals doesn't make anyone a "nut
job".
Neither does not agreeing whole-heartedly with someone.
Nothing on her site would make me conclude that including her essays.
Gerard
DishRoom1
Into New Age, animal rights, and being freaky to the bone.
That woman is having one sad life.
John Shughart
Steve Carras
>From: anim...@aol.comNOSPAM (ANIM8Rfsk)
>Date: 12/18/01 9:21 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20011218122130...@mb-cg.aol.com>
>
><< Did I mention that she has her own website www.pamferdin.com now? >>
>
>where you can read such tidbits as:
>"Pamelyn once said, "We have no children as I feel that until every child has
>a
>home (just like every companion animal), people should not breed!""
>
>1/12/00 According to this press release from the Last Chance for Animals,
>Pamelyn Ferdin has been arrested in Los Angeles for possessing a large stick
>during a protest at a circus.
>
She wasn't doing anything illegal..Barbra Streisand is a bigger
kook...threatening to leave America if Bush got elected (as threatened Alec
Baldwin. Bush got in, though it took until January 2001! And those two
hypocrites are STILL kickin' butt,liberal and conservative, in Hollywood and
elsewhere.:)) Now if she had given alchohol to kids or had been drinkinhg and
had been drunk that would be an issue.Those who arrested her are assholes.
Steve Carras
>Date: 12/18/01 1:05 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <bigshot-1812...@206.225.65.147>
>
>In article <20011218025232...@mb-fi.aol.com>,
>gca...@aol.comcomcom (Steve Carras) wrote:
>
>> Not the first Lucy voice but one of them Pam Ferdin, was on many
>> shows like the ones you've mentioned.
>
>I hear Pam Ferdin is a real nut job now.
>
Yeah but there are worse (Ally Sheedy, Jane Fonda, Shannen Doherty until
mid-1990s, Ted Nugent, Michael Eisner)...
At least I am smart enoguh toi separate the art from the artist..and I hear she
is polite to fans unlike the liberals (and the few conservatives) I mentioned
above. After all, Nickelodeon regarded John K. a real nut job but I regard him
one of the Tex Avery's of today.
ANIM8Rfsk
Um, except she was, which is how she got herself arrested.
<< Barbra Streisand is a bigger
kook >>
yep
mhirtes
"Stephen W. Worth" wrote:
>
>
> I hear Pam Ferdin is a real nut job now.
>
In what way? The bitter
should-have-gotten-an-Emmy-but-now-she's-just-a-washup nut job, the
druggie crack 'ho nut job, or the "I found Jay-Zuss! And now I'm gonna
make you find Jay-Zuss too even if it takes the rest of my life!" nut job?
mhirtes
I kinda wonder what she thinks of "Sealab 2021" right now? ;)
mhirtes
"Stephen W. Worth" wrote:
>
> In article <20011218122130...@mb-cg.aol.com>,
> anim...@aol.comNOSPAM (ANIM8Rfsk) wrote:
>
> > 1/12/00 According to this press release from the Last Chance for Animals,
> > Pamelyn Ferdin has been arrested in Los Angeles for possessing a large stick
> > during a protest at a circus.
>
> It figures that Lucy would try to ruin the circus for all the
> other kids.
>
> See ya
> Steve
CIRCUS OWNER: "Give me one good reason why I should close down this circus."
Pam: "I'll give ya five. One.......two......three......four.....FIVE!"
CIRCUS OWNER: "Those are some pretty good reasons."
[those geezers who remember the classic Peanuts shows like I do will get
the joke]
ANIM8Rfsk
should-have-gotten-an-Emmy-but-now-she's-just-a-washup nut job, the
druggie crack 'ho nut job, or the "I found Jay-Zuss! And now I'm gonna
make you find Jay-Zuss too even if it takes the rest of my life!" nut job? >>
The "I refuse to breed" kind, which turns out to be a GOOD thing :-)
mhirtes
DishRoom1 wrote:
>
>
> Into New Age, animal rights, and being freaky to the bone.
>
> That woman is having one sad life.
No, it's Johnny (Jody from Family Affair) Whitaker that's been on
Satan's rollercoaster lately.
ErnieChan9
Maybe I missed something, what part about not wanting children makes you a
kook?
ernie
DishRoom1
Anim8rfsk wrote --
>>1/12/00 According to this press release from the Last Chance for Animals,
>>Pamelyn Ferdin has been arrested in Los Angeles for possessing a large stick
>>during a protest at a circus.
>>
>
>She wasn't doing anything illegal..<snip>
>Those who arrested her are assholes.
I disagree. People like Ferdin do deserve to choose whatever they believe in,
but they don't have the right to loudly shove them down peaceful folks'
throats. That is, the folks who are trying to enjoy the circus.
John Shughart
Aaron Mojo Hazouri or Bizarro No 1
>
>Pam: "I'll give ya five. One.......two......three......four.....FIVE!"
>
>CIRCUS OWNER: "Those are some pretty good reasons."
I bet he felt like a real blockhead once he saw what was going on.
In a related somewhat true to life cartoonism, in waiting until TODAY to
find a Christmas tree (or yesterday, I guess, it IS 4 AM), I think Good Ol'
Charlie Brown finally pawned his sad little twig off on some Beach Boulevard
tree lot who, in turn, pawned it off on ME, just because I thought it was
funny.
-Aaron!
(But -- $20 worth of funny?)
Garrison L. Hilliard
So the "Littlest Angel" got cast into the fiery pit? How so?
ANIM8Rfsk
kook?
ernie >>
Well, it's more like, she's a kook, AND she refuses to breed. And 'refuses to
breed' is her term, by the way.
mhirtes
Oh, the usual former childstar maladies.............booze, crack use,
occasional run-ins with the BDSM community. Guy went through the 70's &
80's like pork would through an industrial sausage grinder.
Met him in at San Diego Comic Con last Summer. He's not a bad
guy.......just got INCREDIBLY shitty luck.
--
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dies, I think the soul of America dies with it."-- Edward R. Murrow
"The danger of the past was that men became slaves. The danger of the
future is that man may become robots." -- Fromm
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the
spinal cord would fully suffice." -- Albert Einstein
mhirtes
So THAT'S where "Stupid people should'nt breed" come from.
Scott McGuire
wrote:
It looks like Pam Ferdin was in "Curiosity Shop," but based on the
credits for "Curiosity Shop" in the IMDb, none of the kids who voiced
Charlie Brown were on "Curiosity Shop."
(Of course, the IMDb can be wrong, in fact, a variety of its voice
credits for the Peanuts shows are wrong.)
The first voice of Charlie Brown was Peter Robbins, who did the first
six shows, from "Charlie Brown Christmas" to "It Was a Short Summer,
Charlie Brown", and the movie "A Boy Named Charlie Brown." He was
featured in the "Making of A Charlie Brown Christmas" documentary.
The next Charlie Brown was Chris Inglis, who did one show ("Play it
Again, Charlie Brown").
Then Chad Webber did two shows ("You're Not Elected" and "There's No
Time For Love") and the movie "Snoopy Come Home" as Charlie Brown.
Anyway, I could go on, but none of them were in "Curiosity Shop." I do
see that Barbara Minkus played "Gettel the Witch" on that show, and she
has a Peanuts connection - she was one of the actresses/singers in the
original off-Brodway cast of "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown."
--
Scott McGuire / smcg...@mit.edu
Peanuts TV & Animation Page - http://web.mit.edu/smcguire/www/peanuts.html
mhirtes
the Broadway play of "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown".
--
Aaron Mojo Hazouri or Bizarro No 1
>the Broadway play of "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown".
Radar, of course, after whom Big Bird's teddy bear is named!
-Aaron!
Kip Williams
> She wasn't doing anything illegal..Barbra Streisand is a bigger
> kook...threatening to leave America if Bush got elected (as threatened Alec
> Baldwin. Bush got in, though it took until January 2001! And those two
> hypocrites are STILL kickin' butt,liberal and conservative, in Hollywood and
> elsewhere.:))
Here's your problem: the word "elected."
--
--Kip (Williams) ...at http://members.home.net/kipw/
"I'm not sure everybody in America is laughing at that."
--Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) responding to Jolly John Ashcroft
Stephen W. Worth
>
> > She wasn't doing anything illegal..Barbra Streisand is a bigger
> > kook...threatening to leave America if Bush got elected
At least she stopped performing. That's good enough for me. (And
I still think Pam Ferdyn is a nut job.)
mhirtes
Kip Williams wrote:
>
> Steve Carras wrote:
>
> > She wasn't doing anything illegal..Barbra Streisand is a bigger
> > kook...threatening to leave America if Bush got elected (as threatened Alec
> > Baldwin. Bush got in, though it took until January 2001! And those two
> > hypocrites are STILL kickin' butt,liberal and conservative, in Hollywood and
> > elsewhere.:))
>
> Here's your problem: the word "elected."
True. Count Dubcula (as I call him) was'nt *actually* elected, but APPOINTED.
Now watch r.a.a. turn into alt.politics for a spell.
DishRoom1
Yeah, that's the punchline behind the joke. She's looney, so she can't have
kids, unlike the rest of us. They might be loony themselves, or that they be
trumatized by being raised by her as a mother...
This is getting cruler and cruler. I better stop now. ^_^;
John Shughart
Timmy Ramone
>
> In article <20011218122130...@mb-cg.aol.com>,
> anim...@aol.comNOSPAM (ANIM8Rfsk) wrote:
>
> > Animals, Pamelyn Ferdin has been arrested in Los Angeles for
> > possessing a large stick during a protest at a circus.
>
> other kids.
The "large stick" in question was a bullhook, a wooden pole with a
metal hook on one end; essentially a device trainers use to torture
elephants. Apparently, Ferdin brought a bullhook to the protest,
to show people the kind of weapons that are used on circus animals.
Police confiscated the bullhook from Ferdin, despite the fact that
the elephant trainers also had bullhooks in their possession, just
a few dozen feet away.
It would be unfortunate if Lucy did "ruin the circus for all the
other kids." But cruelty to animals shouldn't be tolerated in order
to entertain children.
--
"Hey, ho -- let's go!" -Ramones
ANIM8Rfsk
kids, unlike the rest of us. >>
<< This is getting cruler and cruler. I better stop now. ^_^; >>
Not on MY account I hope! :-D
Stephen W. Worth
> The "large stick" in question was a bullhook, a wooden pole with a
> metal hook on one end; essentially a device trainers use to torture
> elephants.
Thanks for the info Pam!
(nut job!)
Garrison Hilliard
>:
>
>> The "large stick" in question was a bullhook, a wooden pole with a
>> metal hook on one end; essentially a device trainers use to torture
>> elephants.
>
>Thanks for the info Pam!
You caught onto that too, eh, Steve?
p.s. BTW, why aren't you guys yelling about Ren and Stimpy being back on
at midnight on VH1 ? Do you guys really hate Billy West that much?! ;-)
Timmy Ramone
I used to be in APATOONS many years ago (long before you were
editor, thankfully).
I won't comment on Ferdin's tactics. However, it is true that
circus animals are often abused by their trainers. If this
"nut job" simply tried to bring this to the public's attention,
then more power to her.
Timmy Ramone
>
> Steve Carras wrote --
>
> >Those who arrested her are assholes.
>
> I disagree. People like Ferdin do deserve to choose whatever they
> believe in, but they don't have the right to loudly shove them down
> peaceful folks' throats. That is, the folks who are trying to enjoy
> the circus.
The press releases I've read indicate she wasn't doing anything of
the sort. Apparently she was not obstructing or otherwise interfering
with people attending the circus. According to the L.A. TIMES, her
only "crime" was possessing a bullhook -- ironic, because according
to the same report, nearby elephant trainers had several of these in
their possession. Apparently, possessing this item is illegal in
San Fernando, unless you happen to be torturing elephants with it.
G&L
Timmy Ramone wrote:
Ahhh, Tim. Give up any rational intelligent adult conversation. You are
just being goaded (ironic pun unintended) by some who when they can't
substantiate their childish name calling revert to it. I dunno. Maybe
they have a hate-on because P.F. is an icky girl?
Gerard
Stephen W. Worth
> Maybe they have a hate-on because P.F. is an icky girl?
"Icky girl"?! Is that a new slang phrase? What does it mean?
I like the sound of it.
Stephen W. Worth
Hilliard) wrote:
> p.s. BTW, why aren't you guys yelling about Ren and Stimpy being back on
> at midnight on VH1 ? Do you guys really hate Billy West that much?! ;-)
When did I stop beating my wife?
I hear R&S is cut, and at the end of the program, Billy says,
"Logon to our website to see what we cut out!" Now THAT is
marketing genius at work! Maybe all stations should cut all
the punch lines out of comedy shows and make you go to their
website to get the laugh.
ANIM8Rfsk
I like the sound of it.
See ya
Steve >>
It seems so appropriate too.
Steve Carras
>Message-id: <bigshot-2112...@206.225.65.130>
>
>In article <3C2399E7...@telus.net>, G&L <hous...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> Maybe they have a hate-on because P.F. is an icky girl?
>
>"Icky girl"?! Is that a new slang phrase? What does it mean?
>I like the sound of it.
>
>See ya
>Steve
Goes back to "Leave it to Beaver" (or is it I have been reading the hilarious
1983 book THE BEAVER PAPERS (authors Will Gerard and ?Jones),just a little too
long? This was a satirical look at what would have resulted in a 1963-1964
season of Wally and The Beav had famous writers come in to contribute-or had,
in the case of dearly deceased ones, had work that was adapted-very funny
book). Anyway, maybe Icky meant the roles Pamelyn Ferdin played.I agree with
someone who said that to be in THIS business (animation) you have to be a nut
job. PS SOrry about my comment about the people who arrested Pam..I have even
gone out of my way for years CRITICIZING the same protests, I was not toally
aware of just how serious Pam's actions had been (and I have ALWAYS believed in
the last several decades that the circus has ben rejected as a ultrasquare
relic out of the longtime past, and can even understand how the circus people
felt as well.)]
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Steve Carras
>Date: 12/21/01 10:00 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <3C2378...@mones.4.ever>
be.
Steve Carras
>Message-id: <bigshot-2112...@206.225.65.130>
>
>In article <9vuri5$1sl$1...@news.efn.org>, garr...@efn.org (Garrison
>Hilliard) wrote:
>
>> p.s. BTW, why aren't you guys yelling about Ren and Stimpy being back on
>> at midnight on VH1 ? Do you guys really hate Billy West that much?! ;-)
>
>When did I stop beating my wife?
>
>I hear R&S is cut, and at the end of the program, Billy says,
>"Logon to our website to see what we cut out!" Now THAT is
>marketing genius at work! Maybe all stations should cut all
>the punch lines out of comedy shows and make you go to their
>website to get the laugh.
>
>See ya
>Steve
And plus your boss J.K. IS Ren! This is revisionist (RENvinisionist..that might
be a popular term around here and alt.animation.spumco) history (Heestory...in
Renese) on VH-1. Besides it comes on too late. (I have to get to bed before 12
pm, even though I am 41..various irrelevant reasons..though since it is on
weekends SOMETIMES I might stay up..I am R&S fan..but the last two facts and
the quoted one, that ist's cut, are driving me away from the VH-1 showings)
ANIM8Rfsk
>only "crime" was possessing a bullhook -- ironic, because according
>to the same report, nearby elephant trainers had several of these in
>their possession. Apparently, possessing this item is illegal in
>San Fernando, unless you happen to be torturing elephants with it.
>
Hmm. Now I am getting more and more mixed up regarding what my verdict should
be. >>
Was this according to something written by the LA TIMES, or according to HER
LETTER to the Times?
DishRoom1
>PS SOrry about my comment about the people who arrested Pam..I have even
>gone out of my way for years CRITICIZING the same protests, I was not toally
>aware of just how serious Pam's actions had been (and I have ALWAYS believed
>in
>the last several decades that the circus has ben rejected as a ultrasquare
>relic out of the longtime past, and can even understand how the circus people
>felt as well.)]
That's OK.
As for the circus thing, while I am not for animal rights, I'm also agaisnt any
malace done to animals - that is to hurt them out of cruelity.
Circuses have the right to stay open and to have trained animals, but one must
be careful not to hurt them, as it is being alleged here. It's probally not
very easy to train animals whose spieces live in the wild.
John Shughart