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ron.b...@gmail.com

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:38:50 PM12/19/09
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Per an e-mail from DM Falk, posted with his permission:

>This is not a joke-- Animalympics is available on DVD....but only
>from Germany, with the title "Die Dschungel-Olympiade".... The
>primary audio track in German mono, but the secondary track is
>ENGLISH STEREO, and is the full motion picture version, apparently....
>
>Here's the best part- It's Region 0. :)
>
>It'll set you back about 14 euro (about $20+, give or take a couple
>dollars), with another 7 euro for postage from Germany.. (Figure
>about $1.42 to 1 euro...)
>
>But it IS there... It IS available...
>
>Oh, and the URL: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B000VOEF2Y
>
>:)
>
>d.m.f.

I probably won't get it, though my VHS copy is 25? years old,
and I haven't watched it in 15+ years - wonder if it's still any
good :^(

Ron

Don Del Grande

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Dec 19, 2009, 9:00:36 PM12/19/09
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ron.bauerle.wrote:

Region 0 is one thing, but if it's from Germany, it's PAL (yes, there
ARE such things as "PAL" and "NTSC" DVDs - don't let anyone tell you
otherwise), and a number of DVD players (especially Sony, for whatever
reason) in the USA will reject them regardless of region.

-- Don

Farry

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:38:12 AM12/20/09
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Don Del Grande <del_gra...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Region 0 is one thing, but if it's from Germany, it's PAL (yes, there
>ARE such things as "PAL" and "NTSC" DVDs - don't let anyone tell you
>otherwise), and a number of DVD players (especially Sony, for whatever
>reason) in the USA will reject them regardless of region.

Yes. "NTSC" defines a composite color standard (which is irrelevant to
DVDs) but it does also define the old US frame standard of 525 lines at
30Hz. "PAL", by itself, only defines a composite colour standard, but all
the local implementations (PAL-B/G/H/I/D/N) have the frame standard of 625
lines 25Hz except for the obscure Brazilian PAL-M with 525/30. Thus "PAL",
in common usage, now means 625/25 (and PAL-M is usually now called PAL-60).

Joe Strike

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Dec 20, 2009, 11:17:23 AM12/20/09
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Old TV technical gag: 'NTSC' = 'Never Twice the Same Color,'
'SECAM' (a French system, not sure if it's still in use or not) =
'System Exactly Contrary to American,' and 'PAL' = ...er, I forget
what PAL stood for.

Chris Sobieniak

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Dec 20, 2009, 1:17:52 PM12/20/09
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I think it was "Phase Alternating Line". Some DVD players can
playback PAL DVD's pretty good from what I've seen, though you usually
end up with a deinterlaced version of whatever video it is, though
with a filmed source, it wouldn't matter anyway. SECAM isn't used for
DVD mastering however, but PAL discs can work in it's system anyway.

I actually known about this German DVD for a few years now, and since
someone was kine enough to place it on a private tracker that is still
AWOL, I was able to see for myself what it was. I can tell you it
looks probably about as best as you can get from a 30 year old film.
The colors are very decent and not as reddish as some VHS tapes have
shown, and the "English Stereo" track is actually probably the biggest
point of the whole thing. This sounds NOTHING like the previous
releases we've known and love, and there's some good separations,
though I do wonder if it was the original Dolby mix made prior to the
supposed discarding of the magnetic track used for a film festival
screening?

There's actually one/two edits in the whole film I can account for.
One is the opening title being changed to a German version for
"Dschungel-Olympiade", which is very minor, plus a bit before the
"We've Made It To The Top" montage with Rugs Turkell introducing the
piece (why it was cut out of there I'll never know).

Aside from those few negative points, the DVD does give you a nice
extra in the form of a 26 minute long interview taken with Steven
Lisberger, who appears very aged in this video that appears to have
been taken at some outdoor event (or perhaps just his patio, but you
can hear loud planes flying by now and then). This part is kept in
English though there are removable/soft German subtitles. I would say
the German video company went out of their way to do that for the fans
than what we might expect from an American company who would probably
just release it as-is (if ever).

Then there's the German audio itself, which for anyone who hasn't
heard it yet, is even more interesting and silly what was done to the
film. I guess the dubbers felt the film wasn't funny enough and had
to add in a lot more cartoony sound effects for every moment the
characters make. You'll get springy steps for Kit and Rene's race,
sputtering engine noises during Tatyana's performance, it just boggles
the mind! Of course they probably did it thinking of it as a mere
kid's movie none the less, but it is quite jarring when compared to
the English version we've heard well enough.

Steven F. Scharff

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:24:00 PM12/20/09
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NTSC = National Television Standards Committee {Never Twice Same
Color}
SECAM = Séquentiel Couleur à Mémoire/Sequential Color With Memory
{System Exactly Contrary to American Method}
PAL = Phase Alternation Line {People Are Lavender / Picture's Always
Lousy / Pay Another License}

Anim8rFSK

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Dec 20, 2009, 9:38:35 PM12/20/09
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In article <o61ri5lg34bi0tnpu...@4ax.com>,

Don Del Grande <del_gra...@earthlink.net> wrote:

I know my PS3 won't play PAL; I didn't realize it was all Sony.

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Joe Strike

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:35:44 AM12/21/09
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Thank you!!

Chris Sobieniak

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:35:33 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 21, 11:35 am, Joe Strike <joestrike...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you!!

You're probably thanking Steven anyway, but I felt I did my best to
explain the DVD in general! Forgot about the 4% speed-up of the audio
due to being a PAL transfer but that's OK.

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