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Juan F. Lara

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Jul 28, 2008, 5:30:24 PM7/28/08
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I've been seeing this commercial for "Star Wars: Clone Wars" a lot on
Cartoon Network:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aq0dpaL7qc

Retconning gives Anakin his own apprentice. I took one look at the
apprentice's character design and thought, "Man, Lucas is really pandering to
the drooling fanboys out there." :-P

- Juan F. Lara

Derek Janssen

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Jul 28, 2008, 6:45:37 PM7/28/08
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Juan F. Lara wrote:

And "Not REALLY Shaak Ti, because we killed her off in the movies
offscreen before we had as much chance as we wanted to market her, but
someone just as cool who *might* have been her from Episode 2!" at that...

Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net

Dougie Roberts

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Jul 28, 2008, 8:00:08 PM7/28/08
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"Juan F. Lara" <lj...@ces.clemson.edu> wrote in message
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Oh god. It looks like the movie has way too much juvenile humor in it. A
baby Hutt that belches? Gahhhh... This commercial makes it look like a kids
movie. There's nothing wrong with that of course, but it's quite a change
from the dark and serious tone of the commercials I've seen for it up to
now.

Juan F. Lara

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Jul 29, 2008, 4:35:47 AM7/29/08
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In article <c4tjk.143088$gc5.71560@pd7urf2no>,

Dougie Roberts <dougie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>Oh god. It looks like the movie has way too much juvenile humor in it. A
>baby Hutt that belches? Gahhhh...

Supposedly the son of Jabba. Gee, does that mean that mean old Leia
orphaned some poor kid in "Return"? :-)

> This commercial makes it look like a kids movie.

The tone definitely makes this out as a kid's movie. But that outfit
they designed for the apprentice makes me wonder if they're going for the
pervy fans at the same time.

- Juan F. Lara


Invid Fan

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Jul 29, 2008, 8:15:17 AM7/29/08
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In article <g6mkp3$8ep$1...@hubcap.clemson.edu>, Juan F. Lara
<lj...@ces.clemson.edu> wrote:

Lots of horny 12 year olds out there :)

--
Chris Mack *quote under construction*
'Invid Fan'

Paul S. Person

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Jul 29, 2008, 1:41:35 PM7/29/08
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I've seen the trailer a couple of times and I have just one question
... what is Prince Charming, from Shrek 2/3, doing in this movie,
armed with a light saber?
--
"A portent, therefore, happens not contrary to nature,
but contrary to what we know as nature."

Ken from Chicago

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"Juan F. Lara" <lj...@ces.clemson.edu> wrote in message
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Wrong apprentice.

It should be this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlmqLgiuFI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbmf7dRIZo

-- Ken from Chicago


Ken from Chicago

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Aug 3, 2008, 6:43:05 AM8/3/08
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"Invid Fan" <in...@loclanet.com> wrote in message
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They'd be more interested in the robots and spaceships.

-- Ken from Chicago


Thomas Hejl Pilgaard

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Aug 4, 2008, 1:39:01 AM8/4/08
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Ken from Chicago <kwicker1...@comcast.net> declared in:
76SdnTkdnOEgFgjV...@comcast.com :

And, seriously... You guys are complaining that they put a
skimpy (if it even can be said to be skimpy... come on!) outfit
on a Twi'lek?! You must've missed the last 25 years of Star Wars
material...


Ted

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Aug 9, 2008, 6:24:20 PM8/9/08
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Juan F. Lara wrote:
> In article <c4tjk.143088$gc5.71560@pd7urf2no>,
> Dougie Roberts <dougie...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>>Oh god. It looks like the movie has way too much juvenile humor in it. A
>>baby Hutt that belches? Gahhhh...
>
>
> Supposedly the son of Jabba. Gee, does that mean that mean old Leia
> orphaned some poor kid in "Return"? :-)

Well, considering the kid would have been Leia's age in Jedi + time from
Clone Wars movie to Ep3 + age of kid in Clone Wars movie...

tomcervo

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Aug 9, 2008, 10:41:27 PM8/9/08
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On Jul 28, 5:30�pm, lj...@ces.clemson.edu (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
> � � �I've been seeing this commercial for "Star Wars: �Clone Wars" a lot on

And is it me, or does the animation look like WalMart aisle dump
quality?

Richard

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Aug 9, 2008, 11:52:18 PM8/9/08
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It's a cartoon, aimed at kids. Why does it matter?

"tomcervo" <tomc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 28, 5:30?pm, lj...@ces.clemson.edu (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
> ? ? ?I've been seeing this commercial for "Star Wars: ?Clone Wars" a lot
> on
> Cartoon Network:
>
> ? ? ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aq0dpaL7qc
>
> Retconning gives Anakin his own apprentice. ?I took one look at the


> apprentice's character design and thought, "Man, Lucas is really pandering
> to
> the drooling fanboys out there." :-P
>

> ?- Juan F. Lara

Anim8rFSK

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Aug 10, 2008, 12:03:14 AM8/10/08
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In article <hcKdnUy2cKnH-wPV...@giganews.com>,
"Richard" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hah! It's not just you . . .

--
Multiple root canals; hopped up on multiple pain drugs.

It's an explanation, not an excuse!

Ken from Chicago

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"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> In article <hcKdnUy2cKnH-wPV...@giganews.com>,
> "Richard" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a cartoon, aimed at kids. Why does it matter?
>>
>> "tomcervo" <tomc...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:fadabe75-db31-486f...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 28, 5:30?pm, lj...@ces.clemson.edu (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
>> > ? ? ?I've been seeing this commercial for "Star Wars: ?Clone Wars" a
>> > lot
>> > on
>> > Cartoon Network:
>> >
>> > ? ? ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aq0dpaL7qc
>> >
>> > Retconning gives Anakin his own apprentice. ?I took one look at the
>> > apprentice's character design and thought, "Man, Lucas is really
>> > pandering
>> > to
>> > the drooling fanboys out there." :-P
>> >
>> > ?- Juan F. Lara
>>
>> And is it me, or does the animation look like WalMart aisle dump
>> quality?
>
> Hah! It's not just you . . .

Ah, you hate all movie animation.

-- Ken from Chicago


TBerk

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Aug 10, 2008, 12:06:08 PM8/10/08
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- Nope, the 'look' is off, whack.

- It may be 'for' kids but that doesn't mean they should make it ugly.

- It is Star Wars, a very big part of modern societies' toolbox of
references. Going for the cash has always been a part of a measure of
success But it seems the guys making this would have some pride in
craftsmanship. It would seem.


TBerk

Derek Janssen

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Aug 10, 2008, 2:46:49 PM8/10/08
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TBerk wrote:

> - Nope, the 'look' is off, whack.
>
> - It may be 'for' kids but that doesn't mean they should make it ugly.

After the Genndy Tartakovsky Cartoon Network "Dexter's Jedi" version, NO
new version could be "ugly"...

Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net

Anim8rFSK

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Aug 10, 2008, 11:06:23 PM8/10/08
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In article <f9ydnQAGk-ucdwPV...@comcast.com>,

Except for the 'bullshit' part and the 'I never said anything like that
in my life' part and the 'why the hell are you just making shit up'
part, sure.

T987654321

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Aug 11, 2008, 1:17:43 PM8/11/08
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I love Star Wars. I like CGI films. But I'm not that impressed with
the look of the Clone Wars ads.

Antonio E. Gonzalez

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Aug 12, 2008, 2:12:02 AM8/12/08
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:46:49 GMT, Derek Janssen
<eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

>TBerk wrote:
>
>> - Nope, the 'look' is off, whack.
>>
>> - It may be 'for' kids but that doesn't mean they should make it ugly.
>
>After the Genndy Tartakovsky Cartoon Network "Dexter's Jedi" version, NO
>new version could be "ugly"...
>

ITYM "Samurai Jedi"; Gendy Tartakovsky didn't become a legend with
just one cartoon . . .

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Ken from Chicago

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Aug 12, 2008, 10:42:07 PM8/12/08
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"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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<snipping Anim's "colorful euphemism" reply>

Oh puhlease, you regular rail against animation the of us mere mortals like.

Or to put in your words: You hate animation a lot more than we do.

Or put more simply: Name the last 5 animated movies you liked.

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. And don't get me started on Life cereal!


Anim8rFSK

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Aug 13, 2008, 9:25:08 PM8/13/08
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In article <_tOdnbDPgPSc1z_V...@comcast.com>,

I've liked everything I've seen from Pixar.

Everything I've seen from Dreamworks has been crap.

I like most classic Disney. In the new stuff, I like Little Mermaid and
Mulan. Beauty and the Beast is horrible.

I don't think there's a Bluth film I'd go thumbs up on. Parts of some
of it are pretty but it ultimately all fails. (Space Ace and Dragon's
Lair don't count because for some bizarre reason you said I hated all
movie animation, and those aren't movies.)

If you'd extend the definition, I loved "So the Drama"

ron.b...@gmail.com

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Anim8rFSK wrote:

> I don't think there's a Bluth film I'd go thumbs up on.
> Parts of some of it are pretty but it ultimately all fails.

What was wrong with "Secret of NIMH"?

Ron

Derek Janssen

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Aug 15, 2008, 4:40:56 AM8/15/08
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The same "Helpless" fetish (literally) that made all his other films so
squicky to watch?

Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net

Obveeus

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Aug 15, 2008, 6:50:38 PM8/15/08
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On Aug 12, 10:42 pm, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-087D5...@news.west.cox.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <f9ydnQAGk-ucdwPVnZ2dnUVZ_v7in...@comcast.com>,
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>news:ANIM8Rfsk-62345...@news.west.cox.net...
> >> > In article <hcKdnUy2cKnH-wPVnZ2dnUVZ8umdn...@giganews.com>,

> >> > "Richard" <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> It's a cartoon, aimed at kids.  Why does it matter?
>
> >> >> "tomcervo" <tomce...@aol.com> wrote in message

> >> >>news:fadabe75-db31-486f...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> On Jul 28, 5:30?pm, lj...@ces.clemson.edu (Juan F. Lara) wrote:
> >> >> > ? ? ?I've been seeing this commercial for "Star Wars: ?Clone Wars" a
> >> >> > lot
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > Cartoon Network:
>
> >> >> > ? ? ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aq0dpaL7qc
>
> >> >> > Retconning gives Anakin his own apprentice. ?I took one look at the
> >> >> > apprentice's character design and thought, "Man, Lucas is really
> >> >> > pandering
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > the drooling fanboys out there." :-P
>
> >> >> > ?- Juan F. Lara
>
> >> >> And is it me, or does the animation look like WalMart aisle dump
> >> >> quality?
>
> >> > Hah!  It's not just you . . .
>
> >> Ah, you hate all movie animation.
>
> >> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> <snipping Anim's "colorful euphemism" reply>
>
> Oh puhlease, you regular rail against animation the of us mere mortals like.
>
> Or to put in your words: You hate animation a lot more than we do.
>
> Or put more simply: Name the last 5 animated movies you liked.

I think, for the most part, his dislike is in CGI. if something came
along to make you obsolete, you'd hate it too. ;-)

As for Clone wars, the plot/'acting'/etc... is as good as the other
movies (call that a compliment or a diss as you see fit). It
ultimately wasn't any more insulting to the intelligence than Iron Man
and all of the stupidity here (slapstick robot, people that defy
gravity/physics, perfect ability to talk/hear whle surrounded by
battle, etc...) is consistent with the creations in prior Star Wars
(and other) films.

The visuals were very good although somewhat inconsistent as they
slipped into comic book style changes in size/perception to fit stuff
onscreen at times (see those big ships flying over the battle?).
Still, it held up a lot closer to the last couple of Star Wars movies
in visual quality than I expected from what is essentially a TV show
being premiered in the theater. The animation/CGI/whatever are much
better than what you see from TV.

The movie even took a moment to steal a Star Trek Voyager
character. ;-)

For me, the most awkward part of the film was the 'instant
relationship' between Skywalker and Ahsoka. They were bantering
during battle just like they had known each other for years.

Anim8rFSK

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Aug 15, 2008, 7:08:42 PM8/15/08
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In article <sibpk.1053$xv.396@trnddc02>,
Derek Janssen <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

That horrible tractor . . .

btw, rottentomatoes has a great review of clone wars


"George Lucas is turning into the enemy of fun."

Ken from Chicago

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"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> In article <_tOdnbDPgPSc1z_V...@comcast.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:

<snip>

>> Oh puhlease, you regular rail against animation the of us mere mortals
>> like.
>>
>> Or to put in your words: You hate animation a lot more than we do.
>>
>> Or put more simply: Name the last 5 animated movies you liked.
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago
>>
>> P.S. And don't get me started on Life cereal!
>
> I've liked everything I've seen from Pixar.
>
> Everything I've seen from Dreamworks has been crap.

So you hated ANTZ and the original SHREK?

> I like most classic Disney. In the new stuff, I like Little Mermaid and
> Mulan. Beauty and the Beast is horrible.
>
> I don't think there's a Bluth film I'd go thumbs up on. Parts of some
> of it are pretty but it ultimately all fails. (Space Ace and Dragon's
> Lair don't count because for some bizarre reason you said I hated all
> movie animation, and those aren't movies.)

They are more than movies--they are interactive "choose your path" movies.

> If you'd extend the definition, I loved "So the Drama"

Wha?

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. No fair, countering my online arguments with facts!


Ken from Chicago

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Aug 17, 2008, 1:41:53 AM8/17/08
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"Obveeus" <obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
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~
~I think, for the most part, his dislike is in CGI. if something came
~along to make you obsolete, you'd hate it too. ;-)
~
~As for Clone wars, the plot/'acting'/etc... is as good as the other
~movies (call that a compliment or a diss as you see fit). It
~ultimately wasn't any more insulting to the intelligence than Iron Man
~and all of the stupidity here (slapstick robot, people that defy
~gravity/physics, perfect ability to talk/hear whle surrounded by
~battle, etc...) is consistent with the creations in prior Star Wars
~(and other) films.

<snip>

By that argument, he'd love CLONE WARS, cuz its far from extincting (it's a
word, I'm coining it) manual animators.

-- Ken from Chicago


Ken from Chicago

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Aug 17, 2008, 1:42:21 AM8/17/08
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"Derek Janssen" <eja...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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Helpless fetish?

-- Ken from Chicago


Anim8rFSK

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In article <87udnfxfcaUtJDrV...@comcast.com>,

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-0A007...@news.west.cox.net...
> > In article <_tOdnbDPgPSc1z_V...@comcast.com>,
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Oh puhlease, you regular rail against animation the of us mere mortals
> >> like.
> >>
> >> Or to put in your words: You hate animation a lot more than we do.
> >>
> >> Or put more simply: Name the last 5 animated movies you liked.
> >>
> >> -- Ken from Chicago
> >>
> >> P.S. And don't get me started on Life cereal!
> >
> > I've liked everything I've seen from Pixar.
> >
> > Everything I've seen from Dreamworks has been crap.
>
> So you hated ANTZ and the original SHREK?

ANTZ is horrible; I turned it off halfway through. Haven't ever seen
the original SHREK.


>
> > I like most classic Disney. In the new stuff, I like Little Mermaid and
> > Mulan. Beauty and the Beast is horrible.
> >
> > I don't think there's a Bluth film I'd go thumbs up on. Parts of some
> > of it are pretty but it ultimately all fails. (Space Ace and Dragon's
> > Lair don't count because for some bizarre reason you said I hated all
> > movie animation, and those aren't movies.)
>
> They are more than movies--they are interactive "choose your path" movies.

And I liked them (especially Dragon's Lair) quite a bit.


>
> > If you'd extend the definition, I loved "So the Drama"
>
> Wha?

Kim Possible finale


>
> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> P.S. No fair, countering my online arguments with facts!

:)

Anim8rFSK

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Aug 17, 2008, 10:14:16 AM8/17/08
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In article
<33065b2c-56d1-4804...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Obveeus <obv...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Aug 12, 10:42 pm, "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b nos...@comcast.net>


> wrote:
> > "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:ANIM8Rfsk-087D5...@news.west.cox.net...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> > > In article <f9ydnQAGk-ucdwPVnZ2dnUVZ v7in...@comcast.com>,

Wrong in every possible way. I've been doing CGI for decades. And I
think the Dreamworks traditional stuff was as bad as their CGI, but then
the core of all their product is rotten, live action as well as
animation.


>
> As for Clone wars, the plot/'acting'/etc... is as good as the other
> movies (call that a compliment or a diss as you see fit). It
> ultimately wasn't any more insulting to the intelligence than Iron Man
> and all of the stupidity here (slapstick robot, people that defy
> gravity/physics, perfect ability to talk/hear whle surrounded by
> battle, etc...) is consistent with the creations in prior Star Wars
> (and other) films.
>
> The visuals were very good although somewhat inconsistent as they
> slipped into comic book style changes in size/perception to fit stuff
> onscreen at times (see those big ships flying over the battle?).
> Still, it held up a lot closer to the last couple of Star Wars movies
> in visual quality than I expected from what is essentially a TV show
> being premiered in the theater. The animation/CGI/whatever are much
> better than what you see from TV.
>
> The movie even took a moment to steal a Star Trek Voyager
> character. ;-)
>
> For me, the most awkward part of the film was the 'instant
> relationship' between Skywalker and Ahsoka. They were bantering
> during battle just like they had known each other for years.

--

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