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RL

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Could any tell me if I can use any of these lights. If not what is the best
MH (175) bulb to get and where can I get it?

http://www.lighting.philips.com/nam/catalog/pages/73.pdf

RL

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DS

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Unfortunately no. All the lams listed have very low color temperature (the last
column - CCT in Kelvin) . For marine aquarium you'll need a lamp around 10,000K
or better yet 12,000K. Unfortunately these lams typically cost a lot more than
those 3,000K - 5,600K.
If you go with lower your aquarium will become a heaven for algae. There really
is no way of cutting corners in case of MH.

DS

john

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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There is if you get your lamps from non aquarium-supply sources - why pay
the "hobby markup." The lamps we use aren't made for aquariums - do you
think these companies want to develop a product that sells at best a few
thousand units per year? The lamps we use were developed for other
applications (like architectural lighting) and we have adapted them to ours.
I get my 10000K lamp for $62 at a local lighting supply store in Philly. The
same lamp is relabeled by Aqualine Buschke and sold for $100 in a aquarium
stores... just my $.02. - john.

Paul Adam

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:30:36 GMT, john <john.mu...@home.com>
wrote:

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>I get my 10000K lamp for $62 at a local lighting supply store in Philly. The
>same lamp is relabeled by Aqualine Buschke and sold for $100 in a aquarium
>stores... just my $.02. - john.

Hey John,
I figured the same thing. I contacted all my local lighting
suppliers and asked for any lamp over 6000K. In the end nobody was
able to provide me with anything over 5000K. I even suggested
manufacturer names to them. So what's your secret? Who manufactures
the bulb you use?

Thanks
Paul Adam

Corwyn

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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John,

Please let every one know of the source, catalog number or model number of the
lights you buy. We may not have the same Co. in our area but if you could give us a
model number and a mfg it would surely help!
Or is this just your way of rubbing our nose in it<G>?

Corwyn

john wrote:

> There is if you get your lamps from non aquarium-supply sources - why pay
> the "hobby markup." The lamps we use aren't made for aquariums - do you
> think these companies want to develop a product that sells at best a few
> thousand units per year? The lamps we use were developed for other
> applications (like architectural lighting) and we have adapted them to ours.

> I get my 10000K lamp for $62 at a local lighting supply store in Philly. The
> same lamp is relabeled by Aqualine Buschke and sold for $100 in a aquarium
> stores... just my $.02. - john.
>

> > From: DS <x@x.x>
> > Organization: Sympatico
> > Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
> > Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:56:12 GMT
> > Subject: Re: Metal Halide-Please take a look at these
> >
> > Unfortunately no. All the lams listed have very low color temperature (the
> > last
> > column - CCT in Kelvin) . For marine aquarium you'll need a lamp around
> > 10,000K
> > or better yet 12,000K. Unfortunately these lams typically cost a lot more than
> > those 3,000K - 5,600K.
> > If you go with lower your aquarium will become a heaven for algae. There
> > really
> > is no way of cutting corners in case of MH.
> >
> > DS
> >
> > RL wrote:
> >
> >> Could any tell me if I can use any of these lights. If not what is the best
> >> MH (175) bulb to get and where can I get it?
> >>
> >> http://www.lighting.philips.com/nam/catalog/pages/73.pdf
> >

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john

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Ushio makes the lamp that I use. Call Ushio (www.ushio.com) and ask them who
the suppliers are in your area - most suppliers don't stock these lamps but
will order the lamp for you. It may help to get the exact product number
from Ushio before you order it from you local supplier. Ushio makes an
entire line of 10000K HQI, medium, and mogul base lamps from 75-1000W. -
john.

> From: Paul Adam <pla...@davesREMOVETHISworld.net>
> Organization: RMI.NET
> Reply-To: pla...@davesworld.net
> Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:40:46 -0500
> Subject: Re: Metal Halide-Please take a look at these
>

> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:30:36 GMT, john <john.mu...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> snip
>

>> I get my 10000K lamp for $62 at a local lighting supply store in Philly. The
>> same lamp is relabeled by Aqualine Buschke and sold for $100 in a aquarium
>> stores... just my $.02. - john.
>

john

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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I buy Ushio lamps - I think they're the best and they are widely available.
Ushio is one of the worlds largest manufacturers of lamps of all types. Your
local store may not have the 10000K line of lamps in stock but they should
be able to order one for you. They make a 75, 150, 175, 250, 400, and 1000W
versions of the same lamp. The smaller lamps are HQI (double ended) and 175
and up are medium and mogul base type - I think you can get the 175 in an
HQI format too. I use a 150W HQI lamp; this is the same lamp used in
Geissman and Aqualine hoods that cost thousands. I drive my lamp using a
prototype Icecap ballast designed specifically for use with this Ushio lamp.
The combination is spectacular. - john.

> From: Corwyn <Cor...@phonesandstuff.com>
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:57:01 -0400
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> Subject: Re: Metal Halide-Please take a look at these
>

> John,
>
> Please let every one know of the source, catalog number or model number of the
> lights you buy. We may not have the same Co. in our area but if you could
> give us a
> model number and a mfg it would surely help!
> Or is this just your way of rubbing our nose in it<G>?
>
> Corwyn
>
> john wrote:
>
>> There is if you get your lamps from non aquarium-supply sources - why pay
>> the "hobby markup." The lamps we use aren't made for aquariums - do you
>> think these companies want to develop a product that sells at best a few
>> thousand units per year? The lamps we use were developed for other
>> applications (like architectural lighting) and we have adapted them to ours.

>> I get my 10000K lamp for $62 at a local lighting supply store in Philly. The
>> same lamp is relabeled by Aqualine Buschke and sold for $100 in a aquarium
>> stores... just my $.02. - john.
>>

>>> From: DS <x@x.x>
>>> Organization: Sympatico

>>> Newsgroups: rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
>>> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:56:12 GMT
>>> Subject: Re: Metal Halide-Please take a look at these
>>>

Narkosis

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Apr 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/25/00
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John,

Does your Ushio supplier have a website with online ordering? Or an email
at least?

john <john.mu...@home.com> wrote in article
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> I buy Ushio lamps - I think they're the best and they are widely
available.

Roger

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