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Certificate for Oil Painting, ID please

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mpaladin

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Mar 30, 2007, 3:24:03 PM3/30/07
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Hello. I recently purchased an oil painting and a sheet was attached
at the back. Though it has some details such as previous ownership and
date of purchased, I did not locate any company name on this
certificate. I would appreciate if anyone who can ID this certificate
for me -- such as where they may have seen this type of certificate
before, and which company would issue such a document etc.

This certificate's issued date was around 1970 (assuming this document
is real). In addition, the paper is slightly heavier than common
paper; it has a slight glossy feel to it. I held it up against a light
source and saw traces/patterns of cotton. If you should need more
info, please let me know. Again, thanks in advance for your help

Oh yes. The painter is English origin, but I think this oil painting
was purchased/collected in United States.

The certificate-photo is at this site:

http://adamchappell.tripod.com/misc/certificate-3.JPG

t-...@webemails.com

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Mar 30, 2007, 4:29:12 PM3/30/07
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Bad news. It's meaningless.

T.

kris....@prodigy.net

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Apr 1, 2007, 9:55:51 PM4/1/07
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I've seen one of those before, in the mid-1970s. I went to a
"party" (similar to a Tupperware party) where mass-produced
"paintings" were being sold. If you bought one, a certificate
would be filled in and applied to the back. The seller-hostess
would register your sofa-sized painting for you. (I don't
know why. No one would steal these things.)

She had a catalog, too, where you could order your own
original painting. I asked how it could be an original, if
everyone was ordering the same one from a catalog,
and she had no answer.

I'm sure your painting is better than what I saw, still
being sold at motels.
Kris
No, I didn't buy one

mpaladin

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Apr 2, 2007, 10:37:05 AM4/2/07
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On Apr 1, 8:55 pm, kris.ba...@prodigy.net wrote:
> On Mar 30, 1:24 pm, "mpaladin" <music_pala...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Hello. I recently purchased an oilpaintingand a sheet was attached

> > at the back. Though it has some details such as previous ownership and
> > date of purchased, I did not locate any company name on this
> >certificate. I would appreciate if anyone who canIDthiscertificate
> > for me -- such as where they may have seen this type ofcertificate
> > before, and which company would issue such a document etc.
>
> > Thiscertificate'sissued date was around 1970 (assuming this document

> > is real). In addition, the paper is slightly heavier than common
> > paper; it has a slight glossy feel to it. I held it up against a light
> > source and saw traces/patterns of cotton. If you should need more
> > info, please let me know. Again, thanks in advance for your help
>
> > Oh yes. The painter is English origin, but I think this oilpainting
> > was purchased/collected in United States.
>
> > The certificate-photo is at this site:
>
> >http://adamchappell.tripod.com/misc/certificate-3.JPG
>
> I've seen one of those before, in the mid-1970s. I went to a
> "party" (similar to a Tupperware party) where mass-produced
> "paintings" were being sold. If you bought one, a certificate
> would be filled in and applied to the back. The seller-hostess
> would register your sofa-sizedpaintingfor you. (I don't

> know why. No one would steal these things.)
>
> She had a catalog, too, where you could order your own
> original painting. I asked how it could be an original, if
> everyone was ordering the same one from a catalog,
> and she had no answer.
>
> I'm sure your painting is better than what I saw, still
> being sold at motels.
> Kris
> No, I didn't buy one
>

Kris, Thank you very much for that information. I do apologize for the
document-photo, as I also have darken out the details. And yes, all of
the info's on this certificate were typed. What particularly caught my
eye was the mid section of this document; the purchaser's info were
typed in red-colored letters.

Before I forget; this certificate came with a painting by an English
painter named Les Spence (1934). The painting is a Clipper Ship on a
rough sea. I'm guessing it's authentic, since I openned up the canvas/
frame and saw paints that were over the canvas's edge etc. There are
also number markings at the side of this cotton canvas.

But you did mention something about mass production? Did mass
production at that time 1970s mean multiple paintings of similar
subject? Oh, and also, when you said "party" held, you meant in the
USA right?

When possible, I will post up the photos for this particular painting.
Again, your response was very much appreciated.

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