Help! A Weird Victorian advertisement that poops?Not kidding.
m4...@hotmail.com
a little boy sitting on a pot trying to go to the bathroom. The advertisment
says, "Mama, it won't come." in the corner there is the name Green & Co.,
Chicago. You flip the advertisement over and the other side. There is the
little boy smiling and the boy is pooping. The card says, "O Mama, it's
coming. There is glass with dark sand behind the glass. As you flip the card
the sand falls into the pot the boy is sitting on. So it make him look like
he is POOPING. In the corner it says "Pat. Appl'd for" It is 4 and 1/4" by 3
and 1/4".
Here are the pictures of it on the web. The first link is the front of the
card and the 2nd link in the back of the card. Sorry, I dont have both links
on one page:(
http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll19.JPG
http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll18.JPG
Does anyone know the value of this weird thing?
Thank you,
mary(at)ted.net
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Kris Baker
>There is a little boy sitting on a pot trying to go to the bathroom.
>The advertisment says, "Mama, it won't come." in the corner there
>is the name Green & Co., Chicago. You flip the advertisement over
>and the other side. There is the little boy smiling and the boy is
>pooping. The card says, "O Mama, it's coming. There is glass
>with dark sand behind the glass. As you flip the card the sand falls
>into the pot the boy is sitting on. So it make him look like
>he is POOPING. In the corner it says "Pat. Appl'd for" It is 4 and 1/4"
by 3
>and 1/4".
>Here are the pictures of it on the web. The first link is the front of
the
>card and the 2nd link in the back of the card. Sorry, I dont have both
links
>on one page:(
>http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll19.JPG
>http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll18.JPG
>Does anyone know the value of this weird thing?
>Thank you,
>mary(at)ted.net
Mary, without knowing WHAT it is, it's impossible to guess. It
could to be an advertising item - but advertising what? No
product name (and Green & Co is printed in such small letters.)
Once I viewed the image, I recognized the photos mmediately.
They are identical to those used on some old-looking fantasy
pieces that were sold in gift shops in the late 1960s/early 1970s.
I'm not saying that you have a fantasy piece, but it's
recognizable in other forms.
You say you've had it for years. Can you tell us more about
how you acquired it, and when? That's often a very good
clue in attempting to track down more info on an item.
Kris
Patricia V. Lehman
>
> Ok, This is weird. I have had it for years. I think it is Victorian. There is
> a little boy sitting on a pot trying to go to the bathroom. The advertisment
> says, "Mama, it won't come." in the corner there is the name Green & Co.,
> Chicago. You flip the advertisement over and the other side. There is the
> little boy smiling and the boy is pooping. The card says, "O Mama, it's
> coming. There is glass with dark sand behind the glass. As you flip the card
> the sand falls into the pot the boy is sitting on. So it make him look like
> he is POOPING. In the corner it says "Pat. Appl'd for" It is 4 and 1/4" by 3
> and 1/4".
>
> Here are the pictures of it on the web. The first link is the front of the
> card and the 2nd link in the back of the card. Sorry, I dont have both links
> on one page:(
>
> http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll19.JPG
> http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll18.JPG
>
> Does anyone know the value of this weird thing?
I don't know the value, but a couple of months ago I saw a cardboard
poster from the same company with the same catchphrase.
When mommies and nannies tried to toilet-train at 2 months (as is
recommended in an 1895 medical book we have), small wonder that people
end up a bit anal-retentive.
Tish
m4...@hotmail.com
JDK...@prodigy.com (Kris Baker) wrote:
> >Ok, This is weird. I have had it for years. I think it is Victorian.
> >There is a little boy sitting on a pot trying to go to the bathroom.
> >The advertisment says, "Mama, it won't come." in the corner there
> >is the name Green & Co., Chicago. You flip the advertisement over
> >and the other side. There is the little boy smiling and the boy is
> >pooping. The card says, "O Mama, it's coming. There is glass
> >with dark sand behind the glass. As you flip the card the sand falls
> >into the pot the boy is sitting on. So it make him look like
> >he is POOPING. In the corner it says "Pat. Appl'd for" It is 4 and 1/4"
> by 3
> >and 1/4".
>
> >Here are the pictures of it on the web. The first link is the front of
> the
> >card and the 2nd link in the back of the card. Sorry, I dont have both
> links
> >on one page:(
>
> >http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll19.JPG
> >http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll18.JPG
> >Does anyone know the value of this weird thing?
> >mary(at)ted.net
>
> Mary, without knowing WHAT it is, it's impossible to guess. It
> could to be an advertising item - but advertising what? No
> product name (and Green & Co is printed in such small letters.)
>
> Once I viewed the image, I recognized the photos mmediately.
> They are identical to those used on some old-looking fantasy
> pieces that were sold in gift shops in the late 1960s/early 1970s.
> I'm not saying that you have a fantasy piece, but it's
> recognizable in other forms.
>
> You say you've had it for years. Can you tell us more about
> how you acquired it, and when? That's often a very good
> clue in attempting to track down more info on an item.
>
> Kris
>
>
Hi,
I bought the pooper from an old doll collector's husband in Cotati California
before he died. I was 14 at the time and now I am 24. I also bout a few more
things at the same time. I bout this silly Victorian toy that claps cymbols
when you move the stick. Do you want to see a pic.? Ok let me throw it in my
scanner:)
http://www.ted.net/~mary/doll46.JPG
Do you know what this is called?
I dont know where Al bought the pooper. His wife may have gotten it in one of
the doll collections she could have bought.
Thanks for any help, this is fun:)
mary
Tsu Dho Nimh
>Ok, This is weird. I have had it for years. I think it is Victorian.
I remember that from the 1970s, in a Virginia Beach, Virginia
souvenier shop, in with a bunch of equally gross souveniers and
joke gifts. The print of the child is from an ad for a Victorian
era laxative, but the card itself is a modern creation.
Tsu Dho Nimh
April Fool's Day is right around the corner.
Please remember to put fresh batteries in your clue meter.
Kris Baker
>m4...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>Ok, This is weird. I have had it for years. I think it is Victorian.
> I remember that from the 1970s, in a Virginia Beach, Virginia
>souvenier shop, in with a bunch of equally gross souveniers and
>joke gifts. The print of the child is from an ad for a Victorian
>era laxative, but the card itself is a modern creation.
>Tsu Dho Nimh
Thanks, Tsu -
You've confirmed my own suspicions.
Kris
Laurie Brown
IMO, it's just too tacky to be Viccy.
Cheers, Laurie.
Kris Baker
m4...@hotmail.com
JDK...@prodigy.com (Kris Baker) wrote:
> >Ok, This is weird. I have had it for years. I think it is Victorian.
Hi,
I bought the pooper when I was 14 from an old doll collector in Cotati
california. I am 24 now. I bought a lot of other stuff with it. Victorian toys
and snow babies etc.
:)
mary
thanks for any help!
Kris Baker
>> >There is a little boy sitting on a pot trying to go to the bathroom.
>> >The advertisment says, "Mama, it won't come." in the corner there
>> >is the name Green & Co., Chicago. You flip the advertisement over
>> >and the other side.
>> Mary, without knowing WHAT it is, it's impossible to guess. It
>> could to be an advertising item - but advertising what? No
>> product name (and Green & Co is printed in such small letters.)
>> Once I viewed the image, I recognized the photos mmediately.
>> They are identical to those used on some old-looking fantasy
>> pieces that were sold in gift shops in the late 1960s/early 1970s.
>> I'm not saying that you have a fantasy piece, but it's
>> recognizable in other forms.
>> You say you've had it for years. Can you tell us more about
>> how you acquired it, and when? That's often a very good
>> clue in attempting to track down more info on an item.
>> Kris
>Hi,
>I bought the pooper when I was 14 from an old doll collector in Cotati
>california. I am 24 now. I bought a lot of other stuff with it.
Victorian toys
>and snow babies etc.
>:)
>mary
Hi, Mary -
Ahhh....so, you've really not had this for very long? (Ten years
really isn't "many years", although I guess everything's relative.)
Re: "Old doll collector" -- the age of the person you buy some-
thing from has nothing to do with the age of the item.
At least two of us recognize your "pooper" as a fantasy piece (ie,
fantasy = something new, made to look old, that never existed
in the time it is portrayed to be from), so I'm a bit suspect about
the items you've listed, as they are among the most heavily
reproduced categories in recent years.
I think it would be a good idea to visit your local library/large
bookstore, and do some research on snowbabies and Victorian
toys. I'd be thrilled to find out that what you've listed are
original items - so check back with us.
Kris
m4...@hotmail.com
JDK...@prodigy.com (Kris Baker) wrote:
> aba...@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh) wrote:
>
> >m4...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> >souvenier shop, in with a bunch of equally gross souveniers and
> >joke gifts. The print of the child is from an ad for a Victorian
> >era laxative, but the card itself is a modern creation.
> >Tsu Dho Nimh
>
> Thanks, Tsu -
>
> You've confirmed my own suspicions.
>
> Kris
>
>
Hi,
Oh MY GOD! I guess it is worthless. Oh well. I am so glad I found this news
group. I guess it just looked bumped around and the picture looked old. So I
thought it was old. When I was 15 I tool it to an antique show and some buyers
tried to buy it off me. They thought it was old too. Isn't that silly! I feel
stupid.
Thanks everyone for your help:)
mary
Kris Baker
>> aba...@hotmail.com (Tsu Dho Nimh) wrote:
>>
>> >m4...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >>Ok, This is weird. I have had it for years. I think it is Victorian.
>>
>> > I remember that from the 1970s, in a Virginia Beach, Virginia
>> >souvenier shop, in with a bunch of equally gross souveniers and
>> >joke gifts. The print of the child is from an ad for a Victorian
>> >era laxative, but the card itself is a modern creation.
>> >Tsu Dho Nimh
>>
>> Thanks, Tsu -
>>
>> You've confirmed my own suspicions.
>>
>> Kris
>Hi,
>Oh MY GOD! I guess it is worthless. Oh well. I am so glad I found
>this news group. I guess it just looked bumped around and the
>picture looked old. So I thought it was old. When I was 15 I tool it
>to an antique show and some buyers tried to buy it off me. They
>thought it was old too. Isn't that silly! I feel stupid.
>Thanks everyone for your help:)
>mary
Don't feel stupid, Mary! Right now, you have the OUR opinions,
and enough ammunition to check it out fully. If it turns out to be
a fantasy piece, you've learned a lot - at a small price (I hope!)
Kris