What is your favorite antique you Collect? Why?
Paula Wood
Now, we all know you want to tell the world what you collect & why. This is for
collectors of all ages. Golden oldies, newbies & the amature. Let;s see how
frying, boiling, cooking this thread can get.
Here's one. I like to collect cameras. They are different in every way shape &
form.
History, research on this is fatenating to kind out where they came from & how
they came to be.
Also like rushtons stuffed animials from back then. They are soft, cute faces
to die for. Each one is unique & unusually different in it's own way.
Wallpockets that lightup the whole house are fun to collect. I have several.
Kichen,bath, livingroom & dinningroom ones. Mermaids, Coffee & cup, teapots,
fish, like dolphins, angle fish, coocooclocks, very unusal ones that are
advertizement pieces.
I love collecting, unusual, neat looking items that catch the eye.
just wish I could find a radio, Tv, electric appliance, Adult mermaid,
wallpockets that weren't so high in price. Oh Well, that will come.
Now, who's willing to jump in and share next. You know you want to. It's itch
with you guys, that just can't be scratched until you kiss & tell. WE know you
want to.
So go for it. Tell us about your goodies your hiding.
Paula. PS. By the way. HAVE FUN SHARING.
Delete Fada from email, Paula,
Haltom City.TX. 76117
Daniel J. O'Neil
a love for antique furniture and am buying several pieces to furnish the Victorian
townhouse I just moved into. Every weekend I'm out exploring antique shops in my
area (thankfully, there are many in upstate NY). However, I don't feel I'm
collecting but furnishing--or is there a difference?
Daniel
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Cyanogirl
Paula, you crack me up! Love your spirit. I don't collect much--except for
antique men.
Cyn
Derek U.
Why? Id rather buy a 200-1000 dollar vase and have the piece sit around my
house as a
nice little nick-nack which increases in value over time.... rather than
to go to a
trendy store (Peer 1, etc) and spend 50 dollars on a vase whose worth will
be
about 50 cents in 10 years when I have to garage sale it away. I guess
this might swing in
to the old saying "he who dies with the most stuff wins."
Coors Pottery/Dinnerware
Why? Its very rare to find.... which means that I can buy every piece I find
w/o having to
worry about breaking the bank.
Where did it start? My wife got her grandmother's mixing bowl.... which over
time has
turned into a multihundred piece collection.
Carnival Glass
Why? Same as the art pottery drivel. I also like the rainbow effect which
shows up on the top
of most good bowls.
Stickley Furniture
Why? The clean lines of the furniture drew me in.... again, Id rather spend
a fair amount of
cash on a nice antique which makes me appreciate the past... than to spend
money on
a soon-to-be garage sale relic.
Derek, (Austin Tx)
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Paula Wood wrote:
Derek U.
As a collector, you would take more pride in the furniture
that you have amassed in your house. In addition, you would
begin to know a little bit mroe about the furniture than you average
person who walks into an antique store, points to a piece of furniture and
says "I like the looks of that." As a collector, your eye would be more
keenly focused on the condition of the piece, rarity of the piece, overall
umpft of the piece.
I choose to furnish my home in a specific period of furniture.... and I think it
is more of a collection than pure furnishing. Im more willing to pay a higher
premium for a rarer piece of furniture even if I find one cheaper which will
satisfy the same function. (ie bookcase, chair, etc.)
I guess it depends on how you look at thigns.
My tarnished 2 pennies,
DU
"Daniel J. O'Neil" wrote:
> I'm interested in what constitutes a "collector." I, for instance, have discovered
> a love for antique furniture and am buying several pieces to furnish the Victorian
> townhouse I just moved into. Every weekend I'm out exploring antique shops in my
> area (thankfully, there are many in upstate NY). However, I don't feel I'm
> collecting but furnishing--or is there a difference?
>
> Daniel
>
Thomas Andriach
research to ID most of these items. Inkwells and inkstand have been made
from all man made elements such as brass. plastic. glass, ceramic ect.
They have also been made from things that mother nature has provided
such as wood, stone, cork, seashells ect. They were even made out of
animal horns, animal hoofs and I have heard of one made from a human
skull!! The glass ones come in every color undre the sun. Most of these
inkwells are unmarked an some are only one of a kind. I have 50
inkwells/inkstands and about 3/4 of them are not identified. the fun is
in trying to ID them. Prices range from a few dollars to thousands of
dollars. I am not a dealer and I don't sell any that I get. I'm just a
collector who enjoys what I do.
tom
THE INK MASTER
Richard Ward
trouble to find out a great deal about, others I know little about, buy
them when their cheap, and keep meaning to dig into it a little deeper
but never have the time. My short list would be as follows:
1. Carnival Glass
2. Old Pocket Watches
3. Old Cameras
4. Green Depression Glass (although by admitting this, I know I'm
losing what little (if any) respect Ronnie might have for me. I was
going to add a smily face after this, but how do you do this and close
parenthesis at the same time?)
5. I have a number of pieces of oriental textiles, but only one would
is an antique, so I don't know if that would qualify as an antique I
collect or not.
David Wood
>I don't collect much--except for
>antique men.
I have this weird feeling after the crack about, You girls are always saying
that.
On another post this was inevidable to come.
Paula. HEEEEHEEE! FUNNY! So, do I CYN but, don't tell anyone okay.
Delete DFTR from email, David
David Wood
>From: Richard Ward
>3. Old Cameras
Don't feel bad with restoring this house & handling business & kids.
I haven't had much time to research everything on my 3 oldest cameras.
2. 1917 Kodak's & 1 R.E. Seneca.
All are leather cased & paper bellows with all assecories.
Patented dates on inside back of both Kodaks.
>4. Green Depression Glass
I have one piece of pink depression glass. It's a earlier butter dish. With
lid. No flaws.
I won't let go of it for the world.
Paula
Charleen Bunjiovianna
>>From: Richard Ward
>
>>4. Green Depression Glass
>
>I have one piece of pink depression glass. It's a earlier butter dish. With
>lid. No flaws.
>
>I won't let go of it for the world.
Paula, there's just something about depression glass that some people are
never going to understand. All they can see are its humble origins.
Keep it, cherish it. You don't have to apologize for it. I have both pink
and green glass, though rather more pink than green. It lifts the spirits
to see it. I don't know why.
Charleen
Ellen Aaron
>Paula, you crack me up! Love your spirit. I don't collect much--except for
>antique men.
>Cyn
Do you have any duplicates or extras that you want to sell?
-- e
Ellen Aaron
>Okay! ,For you ANTIQUE LOVERS. Let's get some HOT, Steaming DEscussion doing.
>Now, we all know you want to tell the world what you collect & why. This is for
>collectors of all ages. Golden oldies, newbies & the amature. Let;s see how
>frying, boiling, cooking this thread can get.
>Here's one. I like to collect cameras. They are different in every way shape &
>form.
>History, research on this is fatenating to kind out where they came from & how
>they came to be.
I also collect cameras, but my collection is a little specialized. I
collect mostly Polaroid cameras, and until I started this, i never
knew how many different kinds of Polaroid cameras there were. I have
some others, but mostly Polaroids.
I also collect yatates, inkstones and suzuris, and some of the yatates
are close to three hundred years old.
-- e
SUSAN
preview. One pointed at a bowl and asked the other, "Nippon?" And he
looked at the backstamp and , yes, it was Nippon. I was fascinated with
the idea that one could tell where an item was from just by looking at
it. I have been collecting ever since. I also collect vintage jewelery
and
enjoy wearing it to work each day and getting comments from my
co-workers.
Double D Auction
>Art Pottery (rookwood, weller, roseville, newcomb) (snip)
Hi, Derek. Newcomb pottery is a name I've heard, but know
nothing about. Are you able to post some pics on a web page of
some of your favorite pieces along with a brief history and marks
& post the URL here?
Debbie
The Silver Pate Man
Hi, there's just something about silver plate that some people are
never going to understand. All they can see are its humble origins.
Keep it, cherish it. You don't have to apologize for it. I have both
perfect and bleeding silver plate, though rather bleeding than perfect.
It lifts the spirits to see it. I don't know why.
Long John Silver Plate
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Stop your pouting
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Double D Auction
>I'm interested in what constitutes a "collector." I, for
instance, have discovered
>a love for antique furniture and am buying several pieces to
furnish the Victorian
>townhouse I just moved into. Every weekend I'm out exploring
antique shops in my
>area (thankfully, there are many in upstate NY). However, I
don't feel I'm
>collecting but furnishing--or is there a difference?
>Daniel
I consider a collector to be someone who gathers items made of a
specific material or by certain makers. In your case, I would
not consider you to be a collector .......yet. I predict that
sooner or later in your search for antique furniture you are
going to discover all kinds of items that will just go perfectly
with some piece of furniture or other.
If nothing else, eventually a piece of glassware or pottery, etc.
will catch your eye someday & you'll be hooked. A collection is
usually started that way, one piece leads to another & another.
Debbie
Double D Auction
Charleen Bunjiovianna wrote:
>Paula, there's just something about depression glass that some
people are
>never going to understand. All they can see are its humble
origins.
>
>Keep it, cherish it. You don't have to apologize for it. I
>and green glass, though rather more pink than green. It lifts
the spirits
>to see it. I don't know why.
Perhaps because of the history behind it. Perhaps because you
are picking up vibes from the poor former owners who cherished
this thing of beauty in their otherwise drab & dreary life.
I don't own any of it, but there are some patterns that I would
collect if they were readily available. Mass produced, inferior
glass & all.
Debbie
Gary & lois Edwards
Clarice Cliff Tonquinware. Yes, I know it's mass produced shite, butt I love
the colors and the pattern. Actually I collect just about any antique blue
and white....not the new stuff though. The blues in that aren't vivid
enough, and up against an old piece, the new blue and white looks pallid and
dreary. There is just something about a plate, manufactured in the 1800's,
with all it's inherent fragility, that has made it to the year 2000, with
very little, or no damage, that captures my imagination. As in, how did it
make it's way west...what loving hands wrapped it for the journey across the
wilderness in a covered wagon..... see, I told you I had an imagination!!
Lois E.
Paula Wood <lilmo...@aol.comFada> wrote in message
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> Okay! ,For you ANTIQUE LOVERS. Let's get some HOT, Steaming DEscussion
doing.
> Now, we all know you want to tell the world what you collect & why. This
is for
> collectors of all ages. Golden oldies, newbies & the amature.
Double D Auction
>I also collect yatates, inkstones and suzuris, and some of the
yatates
>are close to three hundred years old.
Well, you're going to have to explain. What are these?
Debbie
Donna E Thomas
Ellen Aaron <e...@pipeline.com> wrote in message
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> lilmo...@aol.comFada (Paula Wood) wrote:
>
>snip
>snip
> I also collect yatates, inkstones and suzuris, and some of the yatates
> are close to three hundred years old.
>
Ok.....Ok....I give up. What are yatates, suzuris, and, for that matter,
inkstones?
Golly I love this world of antiques! Where else would you ever ask such a
question and really and truly want to know the answer?
donnamel
Donna E Thomas
Paula Wood <lilmo...@aol.comFada> wrote in message
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> snip
> Now, who's willing to jump in and share next. You know you want to. It's
itch
> with you guys, that just can't be scratched until you kiss & tell. WE know
you
> want to.
> So go for it. Tell us about your goodies your hiding.
Fellow Antiquers,
I collect, among other things, Early American Pattern Glass.
Why?
The Goblet
Holding it now
in careful hands
watching today's sun
splinter
in facets of yesterday
Running my finger slowly
about its rim
hearing in the barely audible
ringing
a voice I almost recognize
Lifting it to my lips
Daring
to drink deeply.
................donnamel
Tina Sutherland
item that makes me laugh. I have weird stuff all over my house and shop that I
think are hysterical. Of course not everyone agrees. Imagine that!?
The current fav is a booklet that was put out to sell milking equipment. On
the cover it announces in large orange letters:
LET'S GET THOSE COWS UP OFF THE FLOOR!
And I say AMEN!
I know that this doesn't belong anywhere in a discussion with 'real' antiques,
but you asked...and I'd been looking for an excuse to include this. :-) Indulge
me.
Tina - I AM looking for a real category to collect, it's just that nothing has
taken yet.;-)
Marshall Schuon
Bunjiovianna) wrote:
>In article <19991006171532...@ng-fn1.aol.com> eman...@aol.comDFTR (David Wood) writes:
>>>From: Richard Ward
>>
>>>4. Green Depression Glass
>>
>>I have one piece of pink depression glass. It's a earlier butter dish. With
>>lid. No flaws.
>>
>>I won't let go of it for the world.
>
>Paula, there's just something about depression glass that some people are
>never going to understand. All they can see are its humble origins.
>
>Keep it, cherish it. You don't have to apologize for it. I have both pink
>and green glass, though rather more pink than green. It lifts the spirits
>to see it. I don't know why.
>
>Charleen
______
We buy and sell a lot of depression glass, but some of it I just add
to the collection. In particular, I like the yellow stuff, although
some of the green -- particularly the glass that glows neon under
blacklight -- has found a place here and there in the house.
And, of course, I collect cars. At the moment, a 1950 Ford coupe,
1950 Packard Deluxe Eight sedan, 1965 Cadillac convertible, 1966
Cadillac Coupe deVille, 1973 Lincoln Continental Sport Coupe, 1986
Dodge Aries, 1987 Dodge Ram pickup, and a 1999 Chevy Venture van.
Out in the driveway, too, are my son's 1961 International Harvester
Metro van, and a 1962 Tatra belonging to my friend Christof. The
Tatra, a Czech car with an air-cooled rear V8, just came from Germany,
and Christof and I picked it up at the port in Newark, N.J., this
afternoon.
But I also collect all sorts of automobilia, as well as diecast cars
and toys in general.
I'm also partial to cookie jars, although all of the figural ones were
made after World War II so none can be considered antique, and the
earlier columnar ones leave me cold. Started buying cookie jars to
sell, but I now have more than 100, so I guess I'm a collector.
And then there is the carnival glass. I'm a member of the Woodsland
club (Hi, Richard), and I just love the stuff. The colors, the
patterns, the iridescence and the history of carnival are all just
wonderful. Don't care what Mike says.
Marshall
Cyanogirl
Sorry, the ones I collect are one-of-a-kind, and it would break my heart to
sell them. :)
Cyn
Michele Mauro
and Dutch mostly, but the odd pieces are my favorites... an old American
ship lamp (brass and BW), the American red willow tablecloth, the
Japanese condiment set and the English BW tins...
I'd also love to collect A&C pottery, bronze and furniture, but when I
come across that kind of stuff, I still have to sell it to keep the
money flowing... someday though, I'll have enough that I can start to
keep some of it... love Rookwood, Newcomb, NDSM, Bretby, LCT, Morris
chairs, etc.
I also have a 30's/40's kitschy kitchen... old cupboard, chrome
canisters, porcelain topped table, and of course, Blue Willow
everywhere!
Have fun, Michele
Paula Wood <lilmo...@aol.comFada> wrote in message
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> Okay! ,For you ANTIQUE LOVERS. Let's get some HOT, Steaming DEscussion
doing.
> Now, we all know you want to tell the world what you collect & why.
This is for
Cyanogirl
Tina,
Amen! I am in udder agreement with you. And why have you been holstein out on
us?
Cyn
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Got milk?
Marshall Schuon
_______
There is something to be said for a cow on the floor.
Marshall
David H. Dean
etc.
Antique lab equipment (when I can find it & be relatively certain that
it's not recent)
Glass Bottles - Various, but I'm beginning to only part with my money
on torpedos, Warner's, and unusual baby bottles. SIDE NOTE: I
recently bought a torpedo bottle at a boot sale that was embossed with
the name of my current employer. None of the current employees who
collect bottles were even aware that they ever used torpedos here -
Codds yes (I have a few), but not torpedos.
Gadgets & Tools - if they look interesting & unusual.
-dave
On 06 Oct 1999 15:52:10 GMT, lilmo...@aol.comFada (Paula Wood)
wrote:
>Okay! ,For you ANTIQUE LOVERS. Let's get some HOT, Steaming DEscussion doing.
>Now, we all know you want to tell the world what you collect & why. This is for
>collectors of all ages. Golden oldies, newbies & the amature. Let;s see how
>frying, boiling, cooking this thread can get.
>
>Here's one. I like to collect cameras. They are different in every way shape &
>form.
>History, research on this is fatenating to kind out where they came from & how
>they came to be.
>
>Also like rushtons stuffed animials from back then. They are soft, cute faces
>to die for. Each one is unique & unusually different in it's own way.
>
>Wallpockets that lightup the whole house are fun to collect. I have several.
>Kichen,bath, livingroom & dinningroom ones. Mermaids, Coffee & cup, teapots,
>fish, like dolphins, angle fish, coocooclocks, very unusal ones that are
>advertizement pieces.
>
>I love collecting, unusual, neat looking items that catch the eye.
>
>
>
>
>just wish I could find a radio, Tv, electric appliance, Adult mermaid,
>wallpockets that weren't so high in price. Oh Well, that will come.
>
>Now, who's willing to jump in and share next. You know you want to. It's itch
>with you guys, that just can't be scratched until you kiss & tell. WE know you
>want to.
>So go for it. Tell us about your goodies your hiding.
>
jon.d2...@ukonline.co.uk
..anything that was used in everyday life up to about 1800,
especially items made of iron, copper and brass that were used for
lighting, cooking or heating. Also simple items made of bone, wood or
horn. The mustbe basic, useable items from everyday life and not
elaborate showpieces or gifts.
..burr walnut furniture as it has great warmth in a cottage
environment......
...simple country furniture in elm or yew
.....**early** horsebrasses and associated items
.........early pottery such as Delph or Slipware
...things that make me laugh....(snail icebuckets, or covered wagon
tea services, for example!)
...anything that I think is worth more than I paid for it!
Jon
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SNIP
>...anything that I think is worth more than I paid for it!
Hehehe, my wife & I bicker about my (growing) collection of the above.
Usually her assessment of an item's worth begins with, "Is it even
worth keeping?" and my reply is usually, "Well, it's worth more than I
paid for it." <g>
-dave
SNIP REST...
Maryann
>a love for antique furniture and am buying several pieces to furnish the Victorian
>townhouse I just moved into. Every weekend I'm out exploring antique shops in my
>area (thankfully, there are many in upstate NY). However, I don't feel I'm
>collecting but furnishing--or is there a difference?
>Daniel
Ah, Daniel. Collecting is a disease..a lot like alcoholism.
Furnishing is a whole nother kettle of fish. You are collecting when
you see something and get that sweaty palm, heart palpitations, I,ve
got to have it no matter what feeling even though you already have 150
of what ever it is.
Maryann
"I,ve got it bad and that aint good."
Maryann
>THE INK MASTER
I wish I had the ability to post a picture somewhere!! I just have
one ink well but it is a beauty and I would love to know more about
it. it is brass, about 2" square with a stepped back hinged lid. the
sides and tops have been painted so that they appear to be leather but
are not. It has a name on the bottom that I can not read even with a
magnifying glass and a mark the looks like an oval with a large k over
it and two tiny letters on each side within the oval. it still has
its glass insert. any clues??
Maryann
Esengo
>>I'm interested in what constitutes a "collector." I, for instance, have
>discovered
>>a love for antique furniture and am buying several pieces to furnish the
>Victorian
>>townhouse I just moved into. Every weekend I'm out exploring antique shops
>in my
>>area (thankfully, there are many in upstate NY). However, I don't feel I'm
>>collecting but furnishing--or is there a difference?
Furnishing: Looking for something to fit into a spot you already have in
mind.
Collecting: Buying something you love and THEN finding a spot to put it in.
Little fairy.
Maryann
>>
>>>4. Green Depression Glass
>>
>>I have one piece of pink depression glass. It's a earlier butter dish. With
>>lid. No flaws.
I am another depression glass collector and I love it. I have several
more or less complete sets and at least one piece of about 70
different patterns. It was my first collection as an adult and lead
me down the path to learning more and more about glass. I now have a
huge collection of old glass that includes EAPG, carnival and art
glass. all started when my mother bought be a piece of pink Sharon
about 40 years ago! I set beautiful tables with lovely glass on old
linens and would never be ashamed of a single piece of it.
Maryann
jon.d2...@ukonline.co.uk
>>tom
>>THE INK MASTER
>
>I wish I had the ability to post a picture somewhere!!
Most free internet service providers give you free web space....after
that you just use an FTP (File Transfer Program) to 'upload' your
stuff. FTP programs are available for free and are as simple as
copying files on your own computer.
Jon
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Maryann
>Holding it now
>in careful hands
>watching today's sun
>splinter
>in facets of yesterday
>Running my finger slowly
>about its rim
>hearing in the barely audible
>ringing
>a voice I almost recognize
>Lifting it to my lips
>Daring
>to drink deeply.
>................donnamel
Isn't it wonderful how much better wine is in a glass that is over 100
years old?
maryann
Maryann
>Marshall
what?
Derek U.
Ive been poking around on my website to include that stuff. Right now
all that I have up is
my Coors pottery.
www.cyberramp.net/~dereku/coors.htm
There is a good book written by a Louisiana collector which shows quite
a few pictures
of newcomb. (most of it is in the 10k+ range... a little out of my
reach.)
-DU
PS) when collecting newcomb... its often a good thing to know alot about
it... because
most pieces sell from 1k above.
jon.d2...@ukonline.co.uk
>>There is something to be said for a cow on the floor.
>
>>Marshall
>
>what?
"Please moooooooove !"
Jon
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Richard Ward
jpg?
If it's finding a place to post, almost all ISP's give at least some web
space, although you may have to ask, as some don't say how to do it
unless you ask. There also used to be a number of companies that
provided free web space that you could use to post images, I assume they
are still around. If you can't find one that'll work for you, send me
an email and I'll offer an alternate solution.
If the problem is getting the photo into a jpg, there are a lot of photo
finishing companies that offer the option of pictures on disk for a few
dollars extra.
Richard Ward
Maryann wrote:
>
> >tom
> >THE INK MASTER
>
Michele Mauro
with some pottery she had made when she was young? Yup... Newcomb... was
a bit surprised to find out how much her vases were worth!
Have fun, Michele
Derek U. <der...@beast.amd.com> wrote in message
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Ronnie McKinley
>Furnishing: Looking for something to fit into a spot you already have in
>mind.
>Collecting: Buying something you love and THEN finding a spot to put it in.
>
Yea good one. I like that.
... by god this girl is improving by the minute:)
Ronnie
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Derek U.
I believe it was her mothers/aunts piece not hers. I also recall that it
had a chip or something wrong
with it and it still appraised for about 6k. Yikes.
I have a very large dislike for the roadshow. I think they have moved way
too far in to the upper end of
the antiquing world. The average stuff that they appraise on there is way
too high end to ever be found
by your average antiquer. Im so tired of seeing furniture which is priced
in the 20-30k range.... all the
tiffany, grueby, stickley, galle, etc that they seem to want to always
appraise.... come on now... your
average person will be hard pressed to find those types of hidden
treasures. Heck the last time I watched it
they showed a darn table that some guy paid 0.7 million dollars for....
sheesh. I think they need to step
back down and show us a little bit mroe common items.
After all that moaning and complaining.... I actually prefer to watch the
appraisal show on the home and
garden network (some cable channel.) I would say their average appraisal
is in the range of 50-200 dollars.
IE something that you might have from your grandmother... mother.... or
even just sitting about your home. =)
-du
PS) the newcomb pot was a nice one.
PSII) for yall roadshowers who remember that huge bowl of Galle which was
appraised at 30k or so... as well as
a few of the other pieces from the Texas show.... well they were auctioned
off like 2 weeks ago at Harts
gallery in Houston. (as an sside.)
Ronnie McKinley
> I would say their average appraisal
>is in the range of 50-200 dollars.
>IE something that you might have from your grandmother... mother.... or
>even just sitting about your home. =)
No one would watch the RS at that level, it would be boring.
In the British (RS) version people want to see stuff valued in the 1000s
and the 10000s and they want to hear the little old lady that brought it
in say ..... "well I bought it at the church jumble sale for 10 pence, Oh
my word I didn't think it was worth 10000 pounds, dear oh me that's a
shock, but I will never sell it" .... ah lovely little lady.
Of course everything is possible, one never knows when a piece of Galle
will indeed turn up at a car boot sale or in a local church auction for
only a few pennies. Heavens above, this is what drives MANY of us on, me
anyways. To be honest, I know very few dealers in this trade, ones that
have been dealing a life time, that somewhere along the way they haven't
hit a few B I G ones, or at least something for a few pounds which they
got a good big fat profit at, or something they put away into their own
home for a rainy day or a real steal for their own collection.
50-100 dollars .... 30-60 pounds!!!!! ... one couldn't buy an antique for
that sort of money in the UK, it would be absolute rubbish.
And most dealers I know (myself included) when on the road are always
looking for the B I G one, or something of real merit. Geez we need to
dream.
Ronnie
=====
Ronnie
=====
Charleen Bunjiovianna
>>There is something to be said for a cow on the floor.
>
>>Marshall
>
>what?
"What's that cow doing on the floor!?"
Seriously, I'm enjoying the contributions in this thread, especially from
people we don't hear from all that often. More, more!
Charleen
Derek U.
obviously
worth quite a bit.... they know it.... the watchers know it.... the
appraisers know it...
Just to be ostentatious and be on TV.
The last one I can remember was the Elitist lady who brought in a pocket
watch which was givin to a relative by some obviously famous person. It
was pretty much solid white gold and had lots of diamonds etc on it.
If I recall correctly she sat there with a "but the other appraiser said it
was worth more" look on her face.
Another perhaps more recent one was a lady who brought in a whole lot
of jewelry. One bracelet looked like it might have been ripped off a
queen's
arm because of the obvious values of the stones. I think they appraised
the
group of 3 of them for 160k+.
-DU
PS) quite a few antiques can be valued between 50-200 dollars.
Brief list --- some carnival glass, small roseville, small rookwood,
knick-knack collectible stuff, most depression glass, inkwells,
on and on and on.. Obviously you are not going to get
a nice piece of furniture for 200 bucks.... but I think you are
completely wrong when you suggest that an antique between
50 and 200 dollars is rubbish.
Michele Mauro
potter/artist too.
My main complaint is too many reruns... it's like 3 months of new shows
and 9 months of repeats... we went in July to the one in Tampa, and it
won't show until Jan/2000. I've learned a lot on that show though...
they had a pear shaped tea caddy on once... then last night on
"Treasures in Your Home" the whatchamacallit was, you guessed it! A pear
shaped tea caddy. <g> I watch the HGTV shows too, and they've all taught
me something... as has this newsgroup!
Have fun, Michele
Derek U. <der...@beast.amd.com> wrote in message
news:37FCC065...@beast.amd.com...
> That was a Rago apprasial. (6k or so)
>
> I believe it was her mothers/aunts piece not hers. I also recall
that it
> had a chip or something wrong
> with it and it still appraised for about 6k. Yikes.
> After all that moaning and complaining.... I actually prefer to watch
the
> appraisal show on the home and
> garden network (some cable channel.) I would say their average
Darlene E. Hernandez
Paula Wood wrote in message
>>Now, we all know you want to tell the world what you collect & why. This
is for
>collectors of all ages. Golden oldies, newbies & the amature
Blue and white Staffordshire or flow blue. NOT Blue Willow. I mix and
match and use most of it.
Haviland Autumn Leaf (gold trim) - started out as a small dessert set from
my step-grandmother and has grown. Use it for Thanksgiving and autumn
dinners.
Stemware - I have my grandmothers crystal (have no idea who the man. or what
the pattern is - wish I did, so I could buy more pieces) and several other
sets (most aren't at antique status yet). Use all of these (except most of
the Nachtmann has never been used)
Teacups - My last grandmother has given me about 1/2 of her teacup
collection. For some reason, I decided that I needed to find teapots and
creamers/sugars to match each teacup. Stopped that practice pretty quick -
well maybe if I get more display space I'll start again. I really like
round-shaped teapots.
Darlene Hernandez
Ronnie McKinley
>PS) quite a few antiques can be valued between 50-200 dollars.
>Brief list --- some carnival glass, small roseville, small rookwood,
> knick-knack collectible stuff, most depression glass, inkwells,
> on and on and on..
I am afraid there is nothing in your list above that in the UK would be
considered to be an antique. Inkwells are a funny thing over here, they
are generally expensive, but a good early 19thC or 18thC example would be
hard to buy, pushing it somewhat at 120 pounds (200dollars) I am mainly
referring to cut glass inkwells.
>.... but I think you are
> completely wrong when you suggest that an antique between
> 50 and 200 dollars is rubbish.
>
Completely wrong?? that's a bit final. ;> I pitched by comments at 50-100
dollars in my last post (approx 30-60 pounds) but even at 130 pounds
(approx 200 dollars) there wouldn't be that must in antique shop in the
UK, an antique for that sort of money, most of it would be certainly
rubbish and doubtful even to be antique to start off with. Of course one
can pick up antiques for 50 pence, and I made that point elsewhere, but
in the "retail marketplace" if one's max is 120 pounds then one isn't
going to be getting much, if anything, for that sort of money. Obviously
Tx is a better place for antique buying than the UK, you're lucky.
I would be interested to hear what your dateline is for an antique.
I'll stick this in here, reference the bible thingy.
Be it 1860s, 1880s, 1900, 1920, 1950, or whatever you mean by vintage, I
couldn't sell a bible to save my life, nobody around my neck of the woods
wants the damn things, age alone doesn't make any difference. Ya can't
even cut the buggers up for the illustrations. Mass-produced Christian
bric-à-brac just doesn't sell with the general public. Ornate altar
pieces and stations etc do sell, mainly for their architectural features,
but even these things do not make big money. A really nice ornate station
for example (2nd half of the 19thC) can be picked for less than a couple
of hundred pounds around here, for the frame that is, the picture is
usually binned ... put in the trash. ;)
Ronnie
=====
Bleeding Hearts Antiques
----------------------------------------
Derek U.
That seems quite odd that an artist from the Newcomb School would
come to have her work appraised. I would assume she would have a
pretty darn good idea what it was worth as well as a rather
large collection. --- IE something like the Wellers.
Anyways, I too am dismayed by the reruns... they show the roadshow 2x
a week in texas which means 2x the reruns. One would think that
with the huge crowds they have at the Roadshow events -- they
woudl be able to come up with more than 10 or so shows a year.
I certainly cant imagine them ever burning the show out or running
out of antiques. (since there are always new treasures uncovered
or found in various states throughout the US.
Plus it seems a fairly good outlet to inform people of the reproductions
which seem to come more and more over the past couple of years.
It seems that they have one "your item isnt worth what you thought
it was" appraisal per episode. In fact, I heard at a recent rago auction
that rago did a little schpiel on the Roseville fakes out there (which
is to be show next season I think)
-DU
Derek U.
are hardly antique and bearly press into the 1950s ---
most of the items one would find would definately
be within the 50 - 200 dollar price point. In fact, I would
go so far as to say in all but the most upscale places, you
would be hard pressed to find more than 10% of the store
above a 100 price. (excluding furniture of course.)
As for the things I listed not being antiques in the UK, that
is probably because most of the stuff I listed stems from
America rather than overseas. I do know such things as
older (small pieces) of moorcroft can be had within the 200
dollar budget.
As for my definition of antique and vintage --- (I use them
interchangably.) I believe the antique moniker for use in the
US resides with things that are 50-60 year old or older.
I do this mainly because I find it rough to stick to the strict
100 year age which most people like to throw around. I find
it quite odd that within the 100 year definition you throw out
most of the arts and crafts movement which seemed to pretty
much fuel the entire Pottery/metalwork styles which are
well known Americana.
Ellen Aaron
>Ellen Aaron <e...@pipeline.com> wrote in message
>news:7tgh23$f1n$5...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
>> lilmo...@aol.comFada (Paula Wood) wrote:
>>
>>snip
>>snip
>> I also collect yatates, inkstones and suzuris, and some of the yatates
>> are close to three hundred years old.
>>
>> -- e
>Ok.....Ok....I give up. What are yatates, suzuris, and, for that matter,
>inkstones?
>Golly I love this world of antiques! Where else would you ever ask such a
>question and really and truly want to know the answer?
>donnamel
Yatates are mostly Japanese - well, the best analogy is a fountain
pen. Yatate is loosely translated as inkpot. They look like a second
cousin to a silent butler, with a tube attached at one end to the edge
of a small covered bowl. The tube was to hold a writing brush and the
bowl held dry ink.
Different professions had different kinds of yatates. For examples,
merchants were not permitted to carry weapons in Japan a couple of
hundred years ago, but they were permitted to carry writing
instruments. They would carry a yatate that was about a foot or so
long and weighed a couple of pounds, and if they were attacked, they
would hold it by the tube and hit the thief with the bowl. Samurai,
on the other hand, were armed and didn't need a club, so their Yatates
were small, but held concealed knives.
Along the same line, writing Japanese is done with a brush and ink.
The ink is manufactured in dry sticks, and an inkstone is a device,
frequently very ornamental, with a hollow in it which holds water and
is the right degree of abrasiveness to grind the ink stick in it and
make ink with a little water. The suzuri is a water dropper,
frequently about the size of a pillbox with two small holes in it
which releases water about a drop at a time.
My undersanding is that the 167 Yatates that I have is the fourth
largest collection in the world - they are pretty hard to find
nowadays.
-- e
Carol Millar
and text on a web page and give us the URL? Where, geologically, do you
find these items? (other than Japan)
Are they very expensive, or have a wide range depending on style?
What is the pronounciation for yatates and suzuris?
Carol
Paula Wood
>>Do you have any duplicates or extras that you want to sell?
>>
>>-- e
>Sorry, the ones I collect are one-of-a-kind, and it would break my heart to
>sell them. :)
>Cyn
Hey! Cyn. I'll snatch a few around here that there girl friends aren't looking.
We can sell them on ebay & goes halves after the sale.
50/50 is that okay with you.
Paula . HEEEHEEEEEHEEEE!
Delete Fada from email, Paula,
Haltom City.TX. 76117
Paula Wood
>and green glass, though rather more pink than green. It lifts the spirits
>to see it. I don't know why.
Charleen, > It lifts the spirits
>to see it
Because it's glass, it's pretty & we all still have that little bit of child in
us that likes pretty shiny objects.
But, I wish I could find more or the whole set.
Haven't had time to go to auctions & estate sales lately with all the house
restoration.
But, I'm going to this weekend. When hubby gets paid. Before he spends it on
computer stuff. Watch me!
Paula. PS. Remeber guys when mother ain't happy know ones happy.
Paula Wood
>
>Perhaps because of the history behind it. Perhaps because you
>are picking up vibes from the poor former owners who cherished
>this thing of beauty in their otherwise drab & dreary life.
>Debbie
Could be. OR maybe my mind is telling me to keep it the others will come in
time.
That actually went with this set.
It's a old earlier 30's piece you can tell by the design & wear from the butter
dish.
Plus, my husband knows glass like the back of his hand. His mother collected
lots of old glass, that was just georgous & caught him about it until he was
sick of hearing & seeing it.
He has picked out alot of different glass at estates & auctions that is 100%
original.
Then had it appraised & he was on the money about what era it came from.
Like a decanter set I own. It was appraised. I didn't care about price, I
wanted to know if it really was from the era before Europe & Germany got into
war.
He hit the nail on the head. The appraise also said he had a eye for old glass.
Pretty cool.
Paula Wood
>From: jon
>...things that make me laugh
Jon, Then you'd love my husbands Jack Rabbit Milk can.
Post this one before but, for those who didn't know it's label here it is.
Texas Unsweeten
Jack Rabbit Milk.
A balanced diet for unbalanced people.
Rich in vitiams J, U, M, and P.
Richer in vitiam P thean in beer or Water melon.
Notice to Buyers.
A Fast Action Diet For Lagging, Dragging Salesmen & woman.
Truck Drivers,
Fishermen & woman.
Hunters,
Golfers,
Bowlers, & Talkitive Females.
Keep away From Stenos, Office Girls,,
Beauty Operators & Waitresses.
Distributed By Charles Restaurtant & Motels.
Paula
Carol Millar
geographically, not geologically. (unless you dig them up.)
Carol
Gillam Kerley
Carol Millar wrote:
>
> I just gave myself the laugh of the day. Of course I meant
> geographically, not geologically. (unless you dig them up.)
I just figured you were stoned when you wrote it.
GK
Daniel J. O'Neil
What is your dateline for antique (and vintage) in the UK?
Daniel
Ronnie McKinley wrote:
> I would be interested to hear what your dateline is for an antique.
>
> I'll stick this in here, reference the bible thingy.
>
> Be it 1860s, 1880s, 1900, 1920, 1950, or whatever you mean by vintage, I
> couldn't sell a bible to save my life, nobody around my neck of the woods
> wants the damn things, age alone doesn't make any difference. Ya can't
> even cut the buggers up for the illustrations. Mass-produced Christian
> bric-à-brac just doesn't sell with the general public. Ornate altar
> pieces and stations etc do sell, mainly for their architectural features,
> but even these things do not make big money. A really nice ornate station
> for example (2nd half of the 19thC) can be picked for less than a couple
> of hundred pounds around here, for the frame that is, the picture is
> usually binned ... put in the trash. ;)
--
d a n i e l j. o ' n e i l
creative director
academy of electronic media
rensselaer polytechnic institute
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Tina Sutherland
Cyanogirl wrote:
> Tina wrote:
> > I don't collect much of anything, but I find that I 'gather'. I buy
> >the odd
> >item that makes me laugh. I have weird stuff all over my house and shop
> >that I
> >think are hysterical. Of course not everyone agrees. Imagine that!?
> > The current fav is a booklet that was put out to sell milking equipment.
> >On
> >the cover it announces in large orange letters:
> >
> > LET'S GET THOSE COWS UP OFF THE FLOOR!
> >
> > And I say AMEN!
> >
> > I know that this doesn't belong anywhere in a discussion with 'real'
> >antiques,
> >but you asked...and I'd been looking for an excuse to include this. :-)
> >Indulge
> >me.
> >
> > Tina - I AM looking for a real category to collect, it's just that nothing
> >has
> >taken yet.;-)
> >
>
> Tina,
> Amen! I am in udder agreement with you. And why have you been holstein out on
> us?
> Cyn
> ======
> Got milk?
Got a Milk Man...are you jealous?
Tina
Tina Sutherland
Marshall Schuon wrote:
> _______
>
> There is something to be said for a cow on the floor.
>
> Marshall
You win. I am laughing too hard to think up a witty reply. You just win.
Tina - speechless, for once.
jdmiller
wrote:
> I wish I had the ability to post a picture somewhere!! I just have
> one ink well but it is a beauty and I would love to know more about
> it. <SNIP>
> Maryann
Go to http://www.photopoint.com They offer free hosting for pictures,
and all you have to do is attach the pics to an e-mail to get them
there. (Altho they were experiencing "technical difficulties" just
now!) I came across this as mentioned in an earlier post here regarding
digital cameras.
Best luck and let us all know where the pic ends up.
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Hello All:
How does one go about finding out what type of fabric would be proper
for a set of dining room chairs? I have a dining room set that was made
during the 1880's of oak with egg and dart around the edge of the table
and leaves (and a nice little leaf carved in each corner of the table).
The chairs are of the lyre back type. Where do I start to find
something that would be appropriate.
I should also say that they chair seats were recovered in the 60's with
some nasty pastel stripped fabric and no evidence exists of the original
fabric.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Bill Zucca
long-time lurker
Ronnie McKinley
> I find
>it quite odd that within the 100 year definition you throw out
>most of the arts and crafts movement which seemed to pretty
>much fuel the entire Pottery/metalwork styles which are
>well known Americana.
Huh?
Ronnie
---------
Ellen Aaron
>Ellen, this is very interesting. Could you possibly post some pictures
>and text on a web page and give us the URL? Where, geologically, do you
>find these items? (other than Japan)
>Are they very expensive, or have a wide range depending on style?
>What is the pronounciation for yatates and suzuris?
Yatate is pronounced Ya ta tay, with the accent on the first syllable,
and suzuri is pronounced suh goo ree, with the accent on the second
syllable, and the g pronounced like the g in beige.
Geologically or geographically, these have been collected all over the
world. I inherited a good part of the collection from my parents, who
got them in Europe and the Far East, and I have gotten a couple in
Europe, but most of them here in the United States. They are almost
all Japanese, but there are a couple of them which are probably
Persian. More often than not, when an antique shop in this country
has one for sale, the shopkeeper will not know what it is, and will
not have it on obvious display. They are hard to find.
As far as I know, there are no books about them (except for a couple
of pictures in books about Netsuke sometimes). I do not have a web
page.
However, there is a web page for a gallery in Japan which occasionally
has a couple of them for sale, and when they do, they have pictures.
The gallery is the Sagemenoya Gallery. You can find it with a web
search on Yatate. The ones I have seen in the pictures that they
have, with their descriptions, are overpriced for what they look like.
However, you can see what they are in their pictures.
-- e
Marshall Schuon
wrote:
>
>>>Do you have any duplicates or extras that you want to sell?
>>>
>Paula
>
>>Sorry, the ones I collect are one-of-a-kind, and it would break my heart to
>>sell them. :)
>>Cyn
>
>Hey! Cyn. I'll snatch a few around here that there girl friends aren't looking.
>
>We can sell them on ebay & goes halves after the sale.
>
>50/50 is that okay with you.
>
>Paula . HEEEHEEEEEHEEEE!
________
We are helpless when the girls are out snatching.
Marshall
Losing his reserve
13 Ghosts
> Yatates are mostly Japanese - well, the best analogy is a fountain
> pen. Yatate is loosely translated as inkpot. They look like a second
> cousin to a silent butler, with a tube attached at one end to the edge
> of a small covered bowl. The tube was to hold a writing brush and the
> bowl held dry ink.
>
> Different professions had different kinds of yatates. For examples,
> merchants were not permitted to carry weapons in Japan a couple of
> hundred years ago, but they were permitted to carry writing
> instruments. They would carry a yatate that was about a foot or so
> long and weighed a couple of pounds, and if they were attacked, they
> would hold it by the tube and hit the thief with the bowl. Samurai,
> on the other hand, were armed and didn't need a club, so their Yatates
> were small, but held concealed knives.
>
> Along the same line, writing Japanese is done with a brush and ink.
> The ink is manufactured in dry sticks, and an inkstone is a device,
> frequently very ornamental, with a hollow in it which holds water and
> is the right degree of abrasiveness to grind the ink stick in it and
> make ink with a little water. The suzuri is a water dropper,
> frequently about the size of a pillbox with two small holes in it
> which releases water about a drop at a time.
>
> My undersanding is that the 167 Yatates that I have is the fourth
> largest collection in the world - they are pretty hard to find
> nowadays.
>
> -- e
Dear Ellen,
Just wanted to thank you for the fine post.
13 Ghosts
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Maryann
>and all you have to do is attach the pics to an e-mail to get them
>there. (Altho they were experiencing "technical difficulties" just
>now!) I came across this as mentioned in an earlier post here regarding
>digital cameras.
>Best luck and let us all know where the pic ends up.
thanks to everyone who gave me tips on how to post pictures. the
problem is I have no camera and an antique PC!! My son, the computer
whiz, keeps trying to update me and very soon I will do that. I have
a lot of things I would like opinions on and the temptation to update
growns stronger everyday.
Maryann
Michele Mauro
not 50-60 years! If it's less than 100 years, I call it a vintage
collectible, and I'm sure a few others here would agree. As less than 50
years, it's simply a collectible.
Over in the US, most of them use 1830 as the cut-off point for true
antiques, with 1830 being the beginning of the Industrial Age, and when
items began to be mass-produced in quantity. Here in the US, the legal
definition for import/export rules is 100 years, and that's what I think
we should stick to.
Just my 2¢, Michele
Derek U. <der...@beast.amd.com> wrote in message
news:37FCFEF1...@beast.amd.com...
> As for my definition of antique and vintage --- (I use them
> interchangably.) I believe the antique moniker for use in the
> US resides with things that are 50-60 year old or older.
> I do this mainly because I find it rough to stick to the strict
> 100 year age which most people like to throw around. I find
Michele Mauro
most items in the 1900-1920 date range, so they'd fall outside of the
100 year "rule" for antiques.
Have fun, Michele
Ronnie McKinley <mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote in message
news:37fd4010...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk...
> In rec.antiques, "Derek U." wrote:
>
> > I find
> >it quite odd that within the 100 year definition you throw out
> >most of the arts and crafts movement which seemed to pretty
> >much fuel the entire Pottery/metalwork styles which are
> >well known Americana.
>
>
> Huh?
>
>
>
> Ronnie
> ---------
Michele Mauro
home for herself (apparently not good enough to make it into their store
at the time), and after she left school went about her life.
Someone probably told her, or she read somewhere that the stuff she made
back then had become quite collectible, so she brought it to the
Roadshow. The appraiser was in absolute heaven, as how many times do you
actually get to meet an artist from Newcomb? <grin>
The venues are getting too small to house the AR anymore... and they
could probably use more appraisers. But as Reyne has pointed out, the
appraisers don't get a dime for what they do, they do it for the fun and
excitement of it, but it's exhausting work and a lot of travel. When we
went to Tampa, we got there by 7am and got at the end of a 1 mile long
line that wrapped around the convention center. We were almost positive
we weren't getting in (only 6600 could), but after driving for 2 hours
to get there, we decided to wait it out. We got in at 3pm and there were
still a couple of thousand people behind us who were also getting in...
I'd guess the appraisers worked at least 12 hours straight that day.
When you see our episode, there will be an older woman with an original
animation cel she bought in the 1950's from Disneyland. What made it
special is that she snuck past security to find Walt himself and got him
to autograph it. We heard her screams of delight as she found out what
it was worth (over $100K), while we were standing in line. <g>
Have fun, Michele
Derek U. <der...@beast.amd.com> wrote in message
news:37FCFEEC...@beast.amd.com...
> > Have fun, Michele
> >
> > Derek U. <der...@beast.amd.com> wrote in message
Ronnie McKinley
>Ronnie, the A&C movement started a bit later here, around 1890, with
>most items in the 1900-1920 date range, so they'd fall outside of the
>100 year "rule" for antiques.
So how do you people fit Art Nouveau into the jigsaw puzzle or do ya just
leave it out? ;>
Egads, it must be so confusing in the USA ;>)
Ronnie
=====
Concurrent Antiques Ltd
===================
Derek U.
are doing it for free. Perhaps some of the lower appraisers do it
for free, but people such as Rago and some of the guys from the higher
priced auction houses get quite a bit of free national advertizing
through the show.
Have you ever checked out their webpage on www.pbs.com?
Note for each of the people who do appraisals... they have a little
schpiel on where they do buisness. Also, they show a little blurb
when the person is first mentioned on the TV as they start their
appraisal.
I also know that some of the people who have done appraisals have
also gone ahead and sold the items in their auction houses. (most
of the major ones get about 5% plus the 10% premium -- for
a multithousand item this is quite a bit of $$) The roadshow is
a great place for them to get their name out as well as possibly
get some contacts and items to sell at their auction. --All for free--
If a viewer looks across their room and sees a pot similar to
one of the ones on the roadshow --- they might be tempted
to sell it; you know who will get the commision off of that?
Probably one of the people on the roadshow.
(Id have to say a weekend of my time to spend on the antique
roadshow doing an appraisal is worth 3 min of airtime throughout
the US on TV)
This might sound a little negative... it is not ment to be. I do believe
that most of the appraisers have a good heart and enjoy what
they do and the education they give to people -- but even
though they dont bring home a dime... they still are getting
paid through other ways
=)
-DU
PS) a 100k animation cel? yikes! Id have to say if I owned that
one -- it would be on the auction block ASAP. ;)
Paula Wood
Yip! That's right. >Marshall
>Losing his reserve
But Marshall we will make sure there's high reserves on you guys. Okay!
If you go high enough we might share the reserve. ( MAYBE!)
Paula Wood
>I also collect vintage jewelery
>and
>enjoy wearing it to work each day and getting comments from my
>co-workers.
Susan, You sound like me. When I go to auctions that I know collectors are
going to be there.
I have this Elgin American Cigerette Case lighter, I carry around.
The cigerette case opens with a click, you can put about 10 inside.
You open it, take one out & after it half way close, the hammer flips up to
light the smoke. Then you close the whole thing.
Everytime I bring it out. People are just awed at the gold case & hoew the
whole thing works.
Plus, it has case, booklet & engraving plate that has never been used. Cool
item.
I have one piece of costume jewels.
It's a beautiful cocktail ring from the 40's. I worn it once on my wedding day.
For something blue. Now it's put away with my weddding dress, shoes, vail &
everything for my daughter when she gets married.
What's neat about the dress id it's in excellent shape & 20 years old already.
The day I worn it. 3 years ago. So, by the time she's ready it will almost be a
antique.
Paula Wood
> Tina
I'm not. Tina.
I got one better. I got a maitiance man.
He can fix anything. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
Cyanogirl
> Tina
>
Tina,
Not exactly jealous. I have one, too.
(Please see Milk Man reference in the thread called: Re: OT: Antique vs.
"Old.") ;)
Cynbad
======
Cream of the Crop
Ellen Aaron
> I don't collect much of anything, but I find that I 'gather'. I buy the odd
>item that makes me laugh. I have weird stuff all over my house and shop that I
>think are hysterical. Of course not everyone agrees. Imagine that!?
> The current fav is a booklet that was put out to sell milking equipment. On
>the cover it announces in large orange letters:
> LET'S GET THOSE COWS UP OFF THE FLOOR!
> And I say AMEN!
> I know that this doesn't belong anywhere in a discussion with 'real' antiques,
>but you asked...and I'd been looking for an excuse to include this. :-) Indulge
>me.
> Tina - I AM looking for a real category to collect, it's just that nothing has
>taken yet.;-)
That sounds like a distant relative to a coffee table book I have
(from around 1918) entitled "Wealth in Mice."
I was tempted to tell what it is about, but I think that the title by
iteslf is more fun.
I got it the same place i got another coffee table book called
"Hindustani Self Taught."
It's quite a coffee table.
-- e
Gillam Kerley
"Derek U." wrote:
>
> I slightly disagree that the people who appraise auctions for
> are doing it for free. Perhaps some of the lower appraisers do it
> for free, but people such as Rago and some of the guys from the higher
> priced auction houses get quite a bit of free national advertizing
> through the show.
I've also noted that the same dozen appraisers seem to get most of the
camera time.
GK
Bud Hefler
"Fielder & Allen Co." of Atlanta U.S.A.
I have not been able to locate any info ref the company, probably long
out of business. Can anyone tell me how I might be able to locate some
info ref the company?
LINDA CARROZZA
is the first discussion group I have chosen.
First, I would really like to know what a wallpocket is!
I have been collecting glass paperweights for a very long time. As a
young girl, I always loved colored glass. When I was in my early teens
I was given a glass Pear, clear with bubbles and a red glass top. That
gift began my love affair with glass paperweights.
I can't say exactly why I find them so fascinating, but they make me
happy and I guess that should be good enough. I collect others things
too, really anything that makes me smile! I love teddybears, wedgewood,
copper.
game boards, quilts, and flower hairwreaths. I buy a shot glass from
where ever I go too. Oh, I neglected to mention that I still love all
sorts of glass. Cut,overlay, etched, enameled. Cobalt, ruby, etc....
I'd love to hear from someone who likes paperweights too!
Michele Mauro
years old. That's part of the reason so many folks here don't follow the
100 year "rule" but tend to bend it more often than not. OTOH, I'm sure
that there are also dealers who only buy/sell items from the 18th and
19th century and scoff at A&C and AN as too "new" for them to mess with.
I try to deal with items in the 50-100 year range, as that's the styles
I know best (which isn't saying a lot as you well know). <grin> I
recently found out that the two Catawba Nation pieces I discussed here a
few weeks ago, actually fall into the "historically significant," over
100 years old category, so that's a first for me! I thought they were
early 20th century, so I wasn't too far off, but it's kinda cool to know
I bought and sold my first 19th century pieces!
Have fun, Michele
Ronnie McKinley <mcki...@netcomuk.co.uk> wrote in message
news:37fe3629...@nntp.netcomuk.co.uk...
Michele Mauro
Have fun, Michele
Gillam Kerley <gke...@execpc.com> wrote in message
news:37fe7d36$0$79...@news.execpc.com...
>
>
> "Derek U." wrote:
> >
> > I slightly disagree that the people who appraise auctions for
> > are doing it for free. Perhaps some of the lower appraisers do it
> > for free, but people such as Rago and some of the guys from the
higher
> > priced auction houses get quite a bit of free national advertizing
> > through the show.
>
Michele Mauro
small hole near the top) so it can hang on the wall. They come in a
variety of shapes, with a lot made here in the US and in Japan... not
sure if the English made them... Ronnie might know...
HTH, Michele
LINDA CARROZZA <ELC...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:20518-37...@newsd-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
Tina Sutherland
Ellen Aaron wrote:
I want to come to your house! Can I bring my newest book, "Conklin's Vest Pocket
- 500 Ways to Make Money"? It has lot's of 1920's good advice. Here's a favorite;
474. MEN'S NECKTIES. If a girl is popular with the men she can usually get plenty
of customers for neckties which she may make herself. A good tie costs 50 cents and
every well-dressed man buys one or more each month, and would recommend his fair
furnisher to all his friends. There is a good chance here.
Tina - who's in the wrong business
Marshall Schuon
CARROZZA) wrote:
>Hi! This is the first time I have ever been on the internet and this
>is the first discussion group I have chosen.
>First, I would really like to know what a wallpocket is!
>I have been collecting glass paperweights for a very long time. As a
>young girl, I always loved colored glass. When I was in my early teens
>I was given a glass Pear, clear with bubbles and a red glass top. That
>gift began my love affair with glass paperweights.
>I can't say exactly why I find them so fascinating, but they make me
>happy and I guess that should be good enough. I collect others things
>too, really anything that makes me smile! I love teddybears, wedgewood,
>copper.
>game boards, quilts, and flower hairwreaths. I buy a shot glass from
>where ever I go too. Oh, I neglected to mention that I still love all
>sorts of glass. Cut,overlay, etched, enameled. Cobalt, ruby, etc....
>I'd love to hear from someone who likes paperweights too!
______
I have about a dozen of them that I've acquired here and there, always
thinking to sell them. I've even photographed them (hard to do
properly) with an eye to putting 'em on eBay. But, somehow, I never
do. At the moment, they're on the mantle, and I like them there a
lot. Guess maybe I just have the start of a collection.
Marshall
Ronnie McKinley
>It's pretty much the same with a lot of art Nouveau... less than 100
>years old. That's part of the reason so many folks here don't follow the
>100 year "rule" but tend to bend it more often than not.
Bend it for what reason? The term Art Nouveau wasn't used until 1895
deriving from a gallery in Paris of the same name. From the custom and
excise aspect there is no reason to "bend" the rules, not in the UK
anyway. Why are you so stuck on this 100year dateline? The Art Nouveau
and the Arts and Craft movement/s have a place in the history of events
and **significance** in the bigger overall picture. Because some don't
choose to label it willy-nilly as antique doesn't change the fact.
> OTOH, I'm sure
>that there are also dealers who only buy/sell items from the 18th and
>19th century and scoff at A&C and AN as too "new" for them to mess with.
>
No this is really not the case at all. Not here anyway. Why would anyone
"scoff" at something merely because of a meaningless dateline? - scoff
one day when the object is only 99 years old and then hail it as some
newly qualified antique the next when the object reaches the magic 100
year dateline. I just don't get your reasoning. If we are truly going to
attach datelines and labels then these datelines and labels must have
significance, in the history and events, applying datelines and labels
just in order to reclaim tax is bloody stupid and totally meaningless. :)
I have shown you, 18th and 19th century objects as well as Arts and Craft
and Nouveau, I have never scoffed merely because of a dateline. There are
without doubt Nouveau objects that have more significance than many
pieces of 18thC bric-à-brac. Michele, everything has its place regardless
of age, be it 1000years or be it 5 years, but this 100 year ruling is
tosh and the term antique so bastardized that it too has lost any real
meaning. At the end of the day, it still comes down to the objects, the
designers and craftsmanship and how it all fits in to the overall
picture, regardless of the time frame.
Ronnie
=====
Marshall Schuon
McKinley) wrote:
>In rec.antiques, Michele Mauro wrote:
>
>>It's pretty much the same with a lot of art Nouveau... less than 100
>>years old. That's part of the reason so many folks here don't follow the
>>100 year "rule" but tend to bend it more often than not.
>
>Bend it for what reason? The term Art Nouveau wasn't used until 1895
>deriving from a gallery in Paris of the same name. From the custom and
>excise aspect there is no reason to "bend" the rules, not in the UK
>anyway. Why are you so stuck on this 100year dateline? The Art Nouveau
>and the Arts and Craft movement/s have a place in the history of events
>and **significance** in the bigger overall picture. Because some don't
>choose to label it willy-nilly as antique doesn't change the fact.
>
>Ronnie
>=====
Ronnie, you have written on at least a couple of occasions about an
1837 cutoff or turning point. What was it that occurred then (as
opposed to, say, 1835 or 1840) that makes us/you cite that year?
Marshall
Ronnie McKinley
>Ronnie, you have written on at least a couple of occasions about an
>1837 cutoff or turning point. What was it that occurred then (as
>opposed to, say, 1835 or 1840) that makes us/you cite that year?
End of the Georgians and the last true Period Style in Britain. Laurie
Brown would probably cut it at 1830, I go 1837 to allow for William IV
the last of the British Hanover Kings. ;>)
This date of 1830 (1837) does coincides with the sometimes assumed and
claimed date of the start of the Industrial Revolution, but in reality
the Industrial Revolution could be said to have started (in Britain)
nearly a 100 years before this 1830 dateline. The term Industrial
Revolution, like similar historical concepts, is more convenient than
precise. It is convenient because history requires division into periods
for purposes of understanding and instruction and because there were
sufficient innovations at the turn of the 18th and 19th centuries to
justify the choice of this as one of the periods. The term is imprecise,
however, because the Industrial Revolution has no clearly defined
beginning or end. The term (Industrial Revolution) was first coined by
historian Arnold Toynbee (1852-83) to describe England's economic
development from 1760 to 1840. So the date, 1837 the beginning of the
Victorian era, is broadly used as a cut-off point and a broadly used term
since Toynbee's time.
However, following 1837 (the start of the Victorian era) there was no
collective or unified style, in fact, there was no style at all, no true
period, just a load of regurgitated codswallop, with an endless stream of
revivals and a fragmentary of different movements without a clear
objective. Not until the start of Modernism was there once again a truly
new direction, a new style and a new unified influence, until that too,
all fell apart. ;>)
Ronnie
=====
Marshall Schuon
Thankya, Sir!
Marshall
Ellen Aaron
>Ellen Aaron wrote:
>> Tina Sutherland <char...@uswest.net> wrote:
<snip for size>
>> >taken yet.;-)
>>
>> That sounds like a distant relative to a coffee table book I have
>> (from around 1918) entitled "Wealth in Mice."
>>
>> I was tempted to tell what it is about, but I think that the title by
>> iteslf is more fun.
>>
>> I got it the same place i got another coffee table book called
>> "Hindustani Self Taught."
>>
>> It's quite a coffee table.
>>
>> -- e
> I want to come to your house! Can I bring my newest book, "Conklin's Vest Pocket
>- 500 Ways to Make Money"? It has lot's of 1920's good advice. Here's a favorite;
> 474. MEN'S NECKTIES. If a girl is popular with the men she can usually get plenty
>of customers for neckties which she may make herself. A good tie costs 50 cents and
>every well-dressed man buys one or more each month, and would recommend his fair
>furnisher to all his friends. There is a good chance here.
> Tina - who's in the wrong business
I wondered what was wrong. I made only 472 ties and had to declare
bankruptcy. If I had only known I needed 474.
Other books on the coffee table:
Legens of Incense/Herb & oil magic (copyright 1938) by Lewis de
Claremont, whoever he is. It includes the following section, quoted
in its entirety:
HINDU GRASS
Hindu Grass oil is a creation, overpowering the famous New Orleans Van
van Oil for dressing. it is much stronger that plain Van Van oil for
it embodies the aroma and vibration of Hindu, Egyptian and Arabian
grasses, forests, fields and jungles. Spiritualists and mediums use
this oil in many "different" ways according to their spirit
impressions. So whatever your "feeling" mey be about using this oil,
follow your own mind, except do not use it internally.
Informative, wasn't it?
Also, to go with my Hindustani book is another book called Japanese in
Thirty Hours. i believe neither of them.
-- e
Gillam Kerley
Ellen Aaron wrote:
>
> Tina Sutherland <char...@uswest.net> wrote:
>
> > 474. MEN'S NECKTIES. If a girl is popular with the men she can usually get plenty
> >of customers for neckties which she may make herself.
>
> I wondered what was wrong. I made only 472 ties and had to declare
> bankruptcy. If I had only known I needed 474.
Why would a girl need more than four to be popular with the men? I
mean, have you ever heard of a 474-poster bed?.
GK
Tina Sutherland
Ellen Aaron wrote:
> Tina Sutherland <char...@uswest.net> wrote:
>
> >Ellen Aaron wrote:
>
> >> Tina Sutherland <char...@uswest.net> wrote:
> <snip for size>
>
> >> >taken yet.;-)
> >>
> >> That sounds like a distant relative to a coffee table book I have
> >> (from around 1918) entitled "Wealth in Mice."
> >>
> >> I was tempted to tell what it is about, but I think that the title by
> >> iteslf is more fun.
> >>
> >> I got it the same place i got another coffee table book called
> >> "Hindustani Self Taught."
> >>
> >> It's quite a coffee table.
> >>
> >> -- e
>
> > I want to come to your house! Can I bring my newest book, "Conklin's Vest Pocket
> >- 500 Ways to Make Money"? It has lot's of 1920's good advice. Here's a favorite;
>
> > 474. MEN'S NECKTIES. If a girl is popular with the men she can usually get plenty
> >of customers for neckties which she may make herself. A good tie costs 50 cents and
> >every well-dressed man buys one or more each month, and would recommend his fair
> >furnisher to all his friends. There is a good chance here.
>
> > Tina - who's in the wrong business
>
> I wondered what was wrong. I made only 472 ties and had to declare
> bankruptcy. If I had only known I needed 474.
>
> Other books on the coffee table:
>
> Legens of Incense/Herb & oil magic (copyright 1938) by Lewis de
> Claremont, whoever he is. It includes the following section, quoted
> in its entirety:
>
> HINDU GRASS
> Hindu Grass oil is a creation, overpowering the famous New Orleans Van
> van Oil for dressing. it is much stronger that plain Van Van oil for
> it embodies the aroma and vibration of Hindu, Egyptian and Arabian
> grasses, forests, fields and jungles. Spiritualists and mediums use
> this oil in many "different" ways according to their spirit
> impressions. So whatever your "feeling" mey be about using this oil,
> follow your own mind, except do not use it internally.
>
> Informative, wasn't it?
>
> Also, to go with my Hindustani book is another book called Japanese in
> Thirty Hours. i believe neither of them.
>
> -- e
Being an old fashion girl I will stick with tried and true Van Van Oil. It's always
done the job for me.
Tina - yes it's true I just tried to sell a stuffed chicken on E-Bay.
Jon Dennington
wrote:
>A wallpocket is kind of like a planter, but the back is flat (with a
>small hole near the top) so it can hang on the wall. They come in a
>variety of shapes, with a lot made here in the US and in Japan... not
>sure if the English made them... Ronnie might know...
>
>HTH, Michele
..they did, unfortunately....
Jon
William Thomas Zucca
I posted the following inquiry last week but received no response. I would
like to try again before I have to put myself at the mercy of the
upholster's swatch books.
How does one go about finding out what type of fabric would be proper
for a set of dining room chairs? I have a dining room set that was made
during the 1880's of oak with egg and dart carving around the edge of the
table
and a nice little leaf carved in each corner of the table.
The chairs are sort of the lyre-back. Where should I start to find
something that would be appropriate.
I should also say that the chair seats were recovered in the 60's with
some nasty pastel stripped fabric and no evidence exists of the original
fabric.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Bill Zucca
Tina Sutherland
Ellen Aaron wrote:
> Along wiht your Van Van Oil, here are a couple of other things from
> the book:
>
> RUE: This herb is said to keep maids from going wrong in affairs of
> love. It is also said to make eyes keener and wits more alert: to
> heal the bites of snakes, scorpions, wasps and bees and drive away the
> plague.
>
> [Just judging from the way the book says things, I would assume that
> it also makes a good floor polish.]
>
> WAAHOO BARK: Has been used to uncross a person. Make a tea of it, and
> while rubbing on head of person, call Waahoo seven times.
>
> [This would probably go well at a football game - run it on the head
> of the person sitting next to you, and run fast while yelling Waahoo.]
>
> I just love antique books.
>
> -- e
So what would "uncross" mean? Like un-curse? Cheer them up? Fix their vision?
I love old books too. Here's another get rich scheme from mine;
473. HINTS ON THE BOOKS OF THE DAY. Every woman in society wants to talk about the
latest book as if she had read it. A clever young woman could make a good living by reading
all the popular novels and taking private pupils or forming classes for hearing from her
the contents of each book, and a happy quotation or two. Do not make the mistake of
supposing that your patrons care one iota about literature, or wish to be instructed in it.
Tina - that's the job for me!
Ellen Aaron
Carol Millar
one on its own and not connected to an unrelated thread.
If you could post a picture of the set and give us the URL it would be
much easier to suggest what chair fabric would be appropriate.
From your description, the chairs do not sound like they went with the
table originally. Lyre back chairs are more likely to be mahogony or
walnut and be with a Duncan Phyfe style table.
If you mean the chairs have a back with lyre shaped splat then I would
say that a leather seat would be very common.
IMO
Carol
Tish
>
> I'm interested in what constitutes a "collector." I, for instance, have discovered
> a love for antique furniture and am buying several pieces to furnish the Victorian
> townhouse I just moved into. Every weekend I'm out exploring antique shops in my
> area (thankfully, there are many in upstate NY). However, I don't feel I'm
> collecting but furnishing--or is there a difference?
If it fits in your house, you are a furnisher. You don't become a
collector until you have to suck in your gut to walk through the room
because of all the furniture you just had to have, and don't have to
worry about the cracks in the wall because they are hidden under all the
vintage maps.
Tish