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ectoplas...@gmail.com

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May 6, 2008, 3:28:14 PM5/6/08
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The story among the pickers in Tulsa was that a year or two before I
arrived someone had made a huge haul at an estate sale and made a
pretty penny on it - membership lists, for example, which were
purported to include the names of judges and other prominent city
officials, all sorts of accoutrement.

Here's what happened. In the 1920's there was a section of Tulsa
called Black Wall Street. I kid you not. Oil money was flowing every
which way and some of it happened into the pockets of landowners who,
God forbid, were not white. It's rather like the oil in Iraq. How did
our oil get under their land?

Finally, the white folks, especially the poor white folks, could not
stand to see prosperous black folks anymore. It dug at them, it made
them ache, it made them reflect and if there is one thing that is of
no value at all in America it is the truth and the truth of the matter
is that black folks were driving new cars and Uncle Buster was still
pulling his wagon with a couple of broke down mules.

The solution was perfect in it's simplicity, genocide. Some WWI vet
went so far as to fly over dropping some sort of bombs on the black
folks from his airplane.

Black folks were killed and buried in mass graves. Neighborhoods and
businesses were burned down to the ground.

Nowadays, black folks are supposed to shut up and sit quiet and thank
white folks for the blessings of comparative equality bestowed on them
at the insistence of the Supreme Court and the Democratic Party.
Remembering the recent past, remembering as far back as the early
1960's is verboten. White America will brook no complaint.

Having been kept in poverty for 100 years by the Jim Crow laws after
their emancipation, black folks had not accumulated wealth and that
is, in the end, what it is all about; that is what is was always all
about - money.

When I was a kid in East Texas in the early 1960's I saw black folks
walking around town in rags. I do not mean cheap clothes you might buy
at K-Mart. I mean rags. Jobs? I was 18 years old before I saw a black
man with the high and mighty job of working in the grocery store.

Black folks, let me remind you, who had money were murdered in Tulsa.

I remember the old world, the world not long passed. Other people do
too. If they annoy you with their fiery cant, you might take a moment
to reflect upon yourself.

T.

Sanity

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May 6, 2008, 6:55:10 PM5/6/08
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.......Yawn.......another Obamite......its not healthy to carry the burden
of our forefathers. Its still happening today.....its called "affirmative
action." America IS ready for a black president.....
just not a communist black president.


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Nancy2

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May 7, 2008, 11:02:46 AM5/7/08
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On May 6, 5:55 pm, "Sanity" <newsgroupjunk...@getalife.ca> wrote:
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I wouldn't mind a black president if I knew that voters were informing
themselves about what he's saying, what he believes, and what his
programs are before they vote.

But when 98% of the black voters in Pennsylvania vote for Obama,
everyone knows that they are voting for him only BECAUSE he's black.
That's a pretty sorry state of affairs for a race that wants
credibility in all aspects of American life.

N.

David Nebenzahl

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May 7, 2008, 1:14:18 PM5/7/08
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On 5/7/2008 8:02 AM Nancy2 spake thus:

> I wouldn't mind a black president if I knew that voters were informing
> themselves about what he's saying, what he believes, and what his
> programs are before they vote.
>
> But when 98% of the black voters in Pennsylvania vote for Obama,
> everyone knows that they are voting for him only BECAUSE he's black.
> That's a pretty sorry state of affairs for a race that wants
> credibility in all aspects of American life.

And how, pray tell, does "everyone know" that? Where's your sociological
analysis? Or, as is more likely, are you just spouting more backwater
Internet BS, more barely-concealed racism? Hmmmmm?


--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute
conversation with the average voter.

- Attributed to Winston Churchill

Nancy2

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May 7, 2008, 4:06:54 PM5/7/08
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I don't need any sociological analysis because just going by odds, it
ain't gonna happen that way. It doesn't take a genius to know that.
Maybe I generalized; maybe not.

"Backwater?" Speak for yourself. Did I hurt your feelings? Are you
an Obama supporter? Excuse me all to hell. And, BTW, the whole
"Internet" is BS, and most of us know it.

N.

David Nebenzahl

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May 7, 2008, 11:06:05 PM5/7/08
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On 5/7/2008 1:06 PM Nancy2 spake thus:

> On May 7, 12:14 pm, David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>> On 5/7/2008 8:02 AM Nancy2 spake thus:
>>
>> > I wouldn't mind a black president if I knew that voters were informing
>> > themselves about what he's saying, what he believes, and what his
>> > programs are before they vote.
>>
>> > But when 98% of the black voters in Pennsylvania vote for Obama,
>> > everyone knows that they are voting for him only BECAUSE he's black.
>> > That's a pretty sorry state of affairs for a race that wants
>> > credibility in all aspects of American life.
>>
>> And how, pray tell, does "everyone know" that? Where's your sociological
>> analysis? Or, as is more likely, are you just spouting more backwater
>> Internet BS, more barely-concealed racism? Hmmmmm?
>

> I don't need any sociological analysis because just going by odds, it
> ain't gonna happen that way. It doesn't take a genius to know that.
> Maybe I generalized; maybe not.
>
> "Backwater?" Speak for yourself. Did I hurt your feelings? Are you
> an Obama supporter? Excuse me all to hell. And, BTW, the whole
> "Internet" is BS, and most of us know it.

Well, I guess since "everyone knows" that black folks voted for Obama
because, well, because he's black, that must mean that women are
genetically predisposed to vote for Hilary. And by your logic, I ought
to vote for John McCain, being a white male.

Yes, I'm an Obama supporter, but only because he's the lesser of 3
evils. (My gut tells me that McCain will be our next president; I can
only hope to hell that it's wrong about that.)

Hurt my feelings? Nah, can't give yourself that much credit. You know,
what they say about heat and kitchens and stuff.

maryann kolb

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May 8, 2008, 8:17:27 AM5/8/08
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On Wed, 07 May 2008 10:14:18 -0700, David Nebenzahl
<nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:

>On 5/7/2008 8:02 AM Nancy2 spake thus:
>
>> I wouldn't mind a black president if I knew that voters were informing
>> themselves about what he's saying, what he believes, and what his
>> programs are before they vote.
>>
>> But when 98% of the black voters in Pennsylvania vote for Obama,
>> everyone knows that they are voting for him only BECAUSE he's black.
>> That's a pretty sorry state of affairs for a race that wants
>> credibility in all aspects of American life.
>
>And how, pray tell, does "everyone know" that? Where's your sociological
>analysis? Or, as is more likely, are you just spouting more backwater
>Internet BS, more barely-concealed racism? Hmmmmm?


And women are voting for Hillary because she's a woman. People will
vote for McCain because he's a republican. I will vote for whomever
my party nominates. My ex-mother-in-law voted for Dewey because she
liked his mustache.

Back to antiques--Dewey and my ex-mother-in-law would gualify if
either one was alive!

Mary Ann
Barnwell, SC

David Nebenzahl

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May 8, 2008, 1:47:45 PM5/8/08
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On 5/8/2008 5:17 AM maryann kolb spake thus:

> Back to antiques--Dewey and my ex-mother-in-law would gualify if
> either one was alive!

But were they rare and collectible?

Nancy2

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May 8, 2008, 3:59:46 PM5/8/08
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>
> Well, I guess since "everyone knows" that black folks voted for Obama
> because, well, because he's black, that must mean that women are
> genetically predisposed to vote for Hilary. And by your logic, I ought
> to vote for John McCain, being a white male.

I think women ARE whatever-reason predisposed to vote for Hillary. I
think some polls have shown that, actually. But I haven't paid a lot
of attention to recent polls.

N.

David Nebenzahl

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May 8, 2008, 4:54:06 PM5/8/08
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On 5/8/2008 12:59 PM Nancy2 spake thus:

Well, I have to say that's smart of you, considering how *wrong* they've
been.

Kris Baker

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May 8, 2008, 6:50:30 PM5/8/08
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"Nancy2" <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote in message
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N.

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What do you mean? What's different about that?

94% of Mormons voted for Mitt Romney because he's Mormon

Most older white women are voting for Hillary Clinton "because
I want a female president in my lifetime). One of my
friends has quit talking to me, because I'm not supporting
Hillary's candidacy.

Most right-wingers vote the R without even knowing the
stance of the person they are voting for. Most Democrats
do the same thing.

ANYONE who thinks that Barack Obama is lesser than
what we have in the White House right now, needs to
study up on the man.

I've been proudly driving with Obama 08 sticks on
all of our cars, since he first announced....and I've
not been disappointed yet.

Kris

maryann kolb

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May 9, 2008, 8:56:04 AM5/9/08
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On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:47:45 -0700, David Nebenzahl
<nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:

>On 5/8/2008 5:17 AM maryann kolb spake thus:
>
>> Back to antiques--Dewey and my ex-mother-in-law would gualify if
>> either one was alive!
>
>But were they rare and collectible?


Oh, she was! I think she was the original "Auntie Mame" and should
never have been allowed to breed.

Mary Ann

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