Antique, meaning of

[qwix...@webtv.net]

How old does something have to be?, to be classified "antique".
As ever,
JL

[Robert Casey]

Out of current production? :-)

[SIMONWADE]

Americans use the English language with much poetic license.

In Britain it is a criminal offence to refer to ANY item that is less than 100
years old as 'ANTIQUE'.

In the United States the word is abused to the extreme, even to the extent that
the most celebrated and respected organ in our field uses the word in their
name. When the ARC started, radios were even less 'Antique'. Also
well-respected dealers use the term on their cards, on their advertising, on
their descriptions... on everything.

In Britain, where the English language is rumoured to have started, anyone
using the term in such circumstances would be prosecuted under our 'Trades
Description Act'. They would also have no chance, be heavily fined, and be
ordered to change their name.

I recently bought a few pre-broadcast rarities. A Marconi magnetic detector and
a Marconi #16 Balanced Crystal Set (both c1910), as well as a Short Wave tuner
and a Forward Spark (both c1916). As early really as one can find... but NOT
antique. Certainly for another 11 years at least.

We have to use 'Vintage'.

Simon

[Al Welch]

"Antique" is in the eye of the beholder.
Dealers working in glassware or oil paintings won't consider things
antique unless they are 100 years old. The antique marketplace
newsgroup won't accept postings of things < 50 years old.
In radio we tend to consider any tube radio collectable. Pre-war radios
are considered antique in the radio collecting world.
Given the fact that technology and style change rapidly and 50 year ols
radios are rather scarce, "antique" fits these old radios.

[Art]

generally accepted definition is anything must be 100 years old.

General usage is anything over 50 years old

On Ebay, it is anything that the listed hasn't seen in minutes

Art

qwix...@webtv.net wrote in article
<19821-371...@newsd-132.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

[Allan Brown]

Just look at computers - last weeks latest, greatest thing is an antique!

Allan

Al Welch (awe...@execpc.com) writes:
> "Antique" is in the eye of the beholder.
> Dealers working in glassware or oil paintings won't consider things
> antique unless they are 100 years old. The antique marketplace
> newsgroup won't accept postings of things < 50 years old.
> In radio we tend to consider any tube radio collectable. Pre-war radios
> are considered antique in the radio collecting world.
> Given the fact that technology and style change rapidly and 50 year ols
> radios are rather scarce, "antique" fits these old radios.
> qwix...@webtv.net wrote:
>>

[John Goller, K9UWA]

In article <19990412051425...@ng25.aol.com>, simo...@aol.com
says...

>
>Americans use the English language with much poetic license.
>
>In Britain it is a criminal offence to refer to ANY item that is less than
100
>years old as 'ANTIQUE'.

SNIP SNIP

>
>We have to use 'Vintage'.
>
>Simon

Thought that here is USA that 50 years was the break point for "Antique"
but with radios.....like BILL said....if the paint is dry!!
But the 50 being typical of US attitudes vs....Old World attitudes...
Interesting!!!
John K9UWA

[Vincent Incardona, Rochester, NY USA]

In article <19990412051425...@ng25.aol.com>, simo...@aol.com
says...
>
>Americans use the English language with much poetic license.
>
>In Britain it is a criminal offence to refer to ANY item that is less than 100
>years old as 'ANTIQUE'.
>

And in America, the term "troll" is used to refer to this kind of post.

[Zapbailey]

In article <19990412051425...@ng25.aol.com>, simo...@aol.com

says...>In Britain it is a criminal offence to refer to ANY item that is less

than 100
>years old as 'ANTIQUE'.
>

Perhaps if that policy were instated here in the U.S. I wouldn't see a@$#que
shops in Cambrige Ma getting $225 for bakelite Emerson table models.....

Art
Remove the yukyspam from my address to email me.

[Cary Fries]

Sorry, but your country is thousands of miles from the US, and subsequently
has no relavance here.

Zapbailey <zapb...@aol.comYUKYSPAM> wrote in message
news:19990412152320...@ng133.aol.com...

[Bill Harris]

I believe our collector friend in the UK was just passing along a bit of
information, which I found interesting and do not believe his comment
warrented such sarcsam. The Internet is international and his
remarks/opinions are as valid here as anyone's.
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[SIMONWADE]

As Bill Harris kindly retorts to this thoughtless posting by Mr Fries, I try to
make good valid points for other readers of this newsgroup. I admit that I am
lucid and call a spade a spade, and will not mess with mincing my words. If
individuals are unable to read this the way it is meant, I am delighted that
you are thousands of miles away.

Stick with your antique 5c tranny from Walmart! But be careful when you place
it on eBay.

And take a few spelling lessons!

Thanks for the support Bill.

It seems that being thousands of miles away can be extremely relevant. May US
collectors are STILL being hit between the eyes by these Russian scammers. I
may be wrong, but I know of no British collectors getting caught, whilst there
are a lot of tears coming from the US. Remember you were all warned. From
where? From Britain, by me, Mr Fries.

Irrelevant? Who are you kidding?

[Cary Fries]

Got your ire up did I, Mr. Wade???. I'll bet that's exactly what you
intended to do with your troll.

SIMONWADE <simo...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990412222131...@ng-fr1.aol.com...

[Cary Fries]

Your post was RIFE with spelling errors. Hypocrite.

Cary Fries <cfr...@tic.bisman.com> wrote in message
news:llDQ2.728$tu1....@newsfeed.slurp.net...

[Johnny H]

SIMONWADE wrote:
>
> Americans use the English language with much poetic license.
>

> In Britain it is a criminal offence to refer to ANY item that is less than 100
> years old as 'ANTIQUE'.

100 years isn't that long in Britian, true. Here it's half our entire
history.

John H.