Philco 16B 80 or 5Z3?
Keith Park
that is still in one of the cabinets says 80 but the Riders says the
bigger 5Z3 rectifier.
Which is correct? isnt this a bit much for the poor little 80?
THanks
Keith
Pete Bertini
"Keith Park" <topn...@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
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Keith... My two 16B tombstones and my 16B cathederal
all have 80s. FWIW.
Pete
TwoMuttHeads
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> Keith... My two 16B tombstones and my 16B cathederal
> all have 80s. FWIW.
Table models take 80, console takes 5Z3.
Kenneth Scharf
the 5Z3. Question is, what was the transformer 5v filament winding
rated at (2A or 3A)? Use the tube manual and add up the plate and
screen currents from the typical ratings for all of the tubes use and
see if you are exceeding the 80's output ratings. (Remember that the 80
can handle more current when the set has a choke input filter).
Keith Park
Thanks
KEith
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Pete Bertini
period that used the 5Z3 is a model 500 or 501. FWIW.
Pete
"Keith Park" <topn...@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
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Pete Bertini
The 16B models used an 80 rectifier. That's on page 169
of Ron Ramirez's original Philco Radio book.
Pete
"Pete Bertini" <radioco...@cox.net> wrote in message
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PTurney
> I believe all the 16 models use type 80s. Only Philco from that
> period that used the 5Z3 is a model 500 or 501. FWIW.
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> Pete
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> > Thats interesting, werent the 2 chassis identical except for the
> > speakers??
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> > Thanks
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> >>> Keith... My two 16B tombstones and my 16B cathederal
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Hi,
If its a 5-band console, it uses chassis type code 122 or 123 with a
5Z3.
If its a 5-band Baby Grand it uses chassis code 121 with an 80.
A 4-band console uses chassis code 126 or 127 with 5Z3.
A 4-band Baby Grand uses chassis code 125 with 80.
The 5Z3 versions generate 15W audio output versus 10W for the table
Baby Grand models.
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/139/M0013139.pdf
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/141/M0013141.pdf
Paul
Pete Bertini
"PTurney" <pa...@tuberadioland.com> wrote in message
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If its a 5-band console, it uses chassis type code 122 or 123 with a
5Z3.
If its a 5-band Baby Grand it uses chassis code 121 with an 80.
A 4-band console uses chassis code 126 or 127 with 5Z3.
A 4-band Baby Grand uses chassis code 125 with 80.
The 5Z3 versions generate 15W audio output versus 10W for the table
Baby Grand models.
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/139/M0013139.pdf
http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/141/M0013141.pdf
Paul
For my own curiousity, did Philco ever market a 16B, not a
16, that used a 5Z3?
Pete
Pete Bertini
> For my own curiousity, did Philco ever market a 16B, not a
> 16, that used a 5Z3?
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> Pete
Reason I ask is that the 16B sets were generally all table top sets, with
10 watt audio as noted early. The 16B's used type 80 rectifiers in my
experience. The 15 watt floor models may have use 5Z3's, but then it
wouldn't be a 16B, which is the model that was asked about.
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PTurney
> "Pete Bertini" <radioconnect...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Hi,
I'm not aware of any Baby Grand (table model) that used the 5Z3,
though someone probably at sometime or another substituted a 5Z3 for
an 80 (or vice versa). The Table top B models all used the code 121 or
125 chassis types with 80. Most consoles used the 122 or 126 chassis
with 5Z3. I have a chairside (16RX) that uses the code 123, with a
5Z3.
Paul
Keith Park
chassis.
Thanks
Keith