Old radio spotted on show
Blacksmith
was a clear shot of an old radio. Seems like a lot of shows now have
an old radio in the background.
Blacksmith
Reproduction Vintage Radio Parts
www.renovatedradios.com
Ken
sitting out on a rain swept porch, looked very out of place. Ken
D. Peter Maus
> New Christine chatted with a Psychiatrist in his office. Behind him
> was a clear shot of an old radio. Seems like a lot of shows now have
> an old radio in the background.
And it generates considerable noise for the networks and TV
stations from 'green' groups, protesting the advocacy of tube
electronics.
I took two of those calls myself over this episode.
Phil Nelson
show Northern Exposure. Various tube radios were seen in a guy's (Dave's?)
office in the show News Radio. Both shows were set in the (then) present.
Phil
paul @removeppinyot.removecom Paul_P
> stations from 'green' groups, protesting the advocacy of tube
> electronics.
>
> I took two of those calls myself over this episode.
I am not sure I follow you? The groups have a "problem" with tubes?
Paul P.
Brenda Ann
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Tube gear uses ~500% more than SS gear that does the same thing. Not very
green.
Pete Bertini
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... what is disturbing, is that you watch that show ...
D. Peter Maus
Yes. High energy consumption, high heat production.
For the record, they also have a serious problem with high watt
amplifiers and big stereo speakers. For the same reasons.
Pete Bertini
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> On 11/12/09 18:28 , Paul_P wrote:
>
FYP :)
Pedro
>
Mike McGinn
First the came for my amplifiers and I did nothing ...
I trust these folks walk everywhere, have very well insulated homes and sit
around in the dark after the sun goes down.
This is the first I have heard of this and I think it is silly.
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D. Peter Maus
> D. Peter Maus wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/09 18:28 , Paul_P wrote:
>>>> And it generates considerable noise for the networks and TV stations
>>>> from 'green' groups, protesting the advocacy of tube electronics.
>>>>
>>>> I took two of those calls myself over this episode.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure I follow you? The groups have a "problem" with tubes?
>>>
>>> Paul P.
>>
>>
>> Yes. High energy consumption, high heat production.
>>
>>
>> For the record, they also have a serious problem with high watt
>> amplifiers and big stereo speakers. For the same reasons.
>
> First the came for my amplifiers and I did nothing ...
> I trust these folks walk everywhere, have very well insulated homes and sit
> around in the dark after the sun goes down.
>
> This is the first I have heard of this and I think it is silly.
No kidding, but apparently, they've got some teeth. I got a
notice in my ComEd bill that I'm using 20% more electricity than my
neighbors, and that they'll be coming to evaluate my usage, and
offering suggestions about how to bring my usage into line with the
"rest of the community."
I have a recording studio in my house.
I not thinking they'll be getting in.
>
John Stone
"D. Peter Maus" <dpete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> I am not sure I follow you? The groups have a "problem" with tubes?
>>
>> Paul P.
>
>
> Yes. High energy consumption, high heat production.
>
How many of those people think that those old radios are actually used on a
regular basis?
> For the record, they also have a serious problem with high watt
> amplifiers and big stereo speakers. For the same reasons.
>
Big speakers tend to be more efficient than small speakers, and most high
watt solid state amplifiers use very little electricity at idle or average
listening levels.
D. Peter Maus
> On 11/12/09 10:56 PM, in article hdiou8$43v$1...@news.eternal-september.org,
> "D. Peter Maus"<dpete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>> I am not sure I follow you? The groups have a "problem" with tubes?
>>>
>>> Paul P.
>>
>>
>> Yes. High energy consumption, high heat production.
>>
> How many of those people think that those old radios are actually used on a
> regular basis?
I"m sure they're not even thinking about actual usage. The calls
I took were in regard to promoting the use of high consumption
devices. In other words, the use of old radios on TV promotes
non-green thinking.
Ignorance is a magnificent tool.
>
>
>> For the record, they also have a serious problem with high watt
>> amplifiers and big stereo speakers. For the same reasons.
>>
> Big speakers tend to be more efficient than small speakers, and most high
> watt solid state amplifiers use very little electricity at idle or average
> listening levels.
You'll get no argument from me. I get more than enough audio out
of my Klipsch and Altec speakers with a handful of watts. But we're
talking about political motivations, here. In the Land of
Ignornance, size equals consumption. Especially when Bose systems
are so much smaller, large speakers are gauche represent conspicuous
consumerism. Despite the fact that Bose systems actually consume
more power than my Altec 846A's.
What motivates these people is less actual consumption than
perceived consumption. And in the Land of Ignorance, perception is
all that matters.
An analog would be found in the late 70's when Randy Newman's
"Short People" hit the marketplace. It was bouncy, it was fun. It
was an amusing record that intended no harm. Radio stations were
beset with angry phone calls from listeners incensed that we would
air such things. Every time I played it, the phones would light up
with angry listeners asking, and then demanding that I pull the song
from the air. After the first few calls, I started asking (and
recording) the callers' own height. When the subject came up in the
staff meeting, I showed them the results of my survey. Of the some
250 calls noted, not one person complaining about the record was
under 5'4". Not one.
They were all, apparently, calling on behalf of someone short, or
short people in general, who should be naturally offended. In truth,
if asked, short people as a class, found the song hilarious.
Nonetheless, complaints continued to pour in to radio stations,
companies that owned radio stations, sponsors....even local
gendarmes' offices...in order to have the song removed from the air.
And in many cases such protests were successful. Even though the
subjects of the song, short people, were not offended.
(And despite a lack of airplay in many markets, the song was a #1
seller across the country. Even, and especially, in markets were the
song never aired.)
So it is here. Busy bodies in front of their TV's WAITING for
something to offend them...Or if not them, then some other class who
MUST be protected. In the case of Old Christine, groups taking the
politically correct position to protest the advocacy of the use of
non-green appliances. In this case, and old radio. Note that at no
time was the radio actually played on the show. But that it was
there implies usage, which is considered heinous by someone who
doesn't really have a clue. Someone who lives by saw 'perception is
reality.'
Similarly, the noise about large speakers and big amps is all
about politics, exerting influence on another's behaviours, and
perceptions.
It's no different than the bonehead who came to my door to tell
me that I was a selfish, irresponsible boor for driving my GMC Envoy
instead of a more 'responsible' car. This, despite the fact that my
Envoy consistently gets better mileage than her Toyota.
The Land of Ignorance is a very interesting place.
>
Blacksmith
past. No need for anyone to get upset about that.
Blacksmith
Blacksmith
wrote:
Disturbing? That show is FUNNY!
Sofa Slug
Many movie prop "radios" don't even have a chassis. I was recently
offered several consoles (mostly 40's through 70's) by a local movie
studio backlot. Most of the sets were empty shells, with dials taped to
the inside and knobs glued on the front.
Phil Nelson
> several consoles (mostly 40's through 70's) by a local movie studio
> backlot. Most of the sets were empty shells, with dials taped to the
> inside and knobs glued on the front.
They couldn't care less, and I'd probably take the same view in their
position. These props are usually in the background, seen for a second or
two.
The prop radios that I bought were mostly in very good condition, but it was
no thanks to the prop folks. They were jumbled in large bins of other
"stuff," everything from cheap plastic kitchen clocks to a heavy metal
hotplate -- practically any household item between the size of a baseball
and a footlocker.
I believe they had many items never used in the show. It must have been fun
to shop for props. Imagine yourself in a giant cube van with a company
credit card, cruising around to every antique mall and second-hand store in
a 50-mile radius, loading up on "stuff." When the show was over, they dumped
it all in a giant garage sale, including things like Maurice's Caddy
convertible and stuffed polar bear.
Last year I sold a Weltron 2001 radio/8 track to the production company who
does the show "Lost." They were adamant about needing that exact model and
color, and gladly paid my extravagant (to me) price. It never appeared on
the show, as far as I know.
Phil
Michael A. Terrell
What is disturbing is that you think you have the right to complain.
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
graham
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... I have the right to say what I want ... Blacksmith has the right to
watch what he wants ... it was a tongue in cheek statement ... chill
Michael A. Terrell
yawn...
D. Peter Maus
Good thing I didn't start that cultured mushroom business.
Brenda Ann
"D. Peter Maus" <dpete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> No kidding, but apparently, they've got some teeth. I got a notice in my
> ComEd bill that I'm using 20% more electricity than my neighbors, and that
> they'll be coming to evaluate my usage, and offering suggestions about how
> to bring my usage into line with the "rest of the community."
>
> I have a recording studio in my house.
>
> I not thinking they'll be getting in.
>
Our power bill (on any one of the three separate meters) is on the order of
1000% higher than our neighbors. KEPCO has been to see us several times to
make sure there wasn't some problem. There is one: electricity is too damned
expensive here if you use more than a few lights and a TV set in your home.
Our house is made from two adjacent apartments with a doorway made between
them. This is how we ended up with two of the three meters. The third was
originally just for the basement, which had only a light. I used that one to
feed my shop and headend room.
One side of the house has two refrigerators, a TV, and an A/C that runs at
night from June to September. The other side, which has officially been
given "business" status because it is used as our office and there are no
living arrangements there, has three computers that run from 18-24 hours a
day/ 7 days a week 365 days a year. Also it has a water cooler and a bank of
network hard drives and a TV. This side is given a 50% discount on
electricity because it is a business, but still runs either highest or
second highest of the three.
I've already discussed the third meter.. maybe I need a fourth (or fifth!)
to get me out of that 64 cents/KWh level?
Bill M
> I've already discussed the third meter.. maybe I need a fourth (or fifth!)
> to get me out of that 64 cents/KWh level?
There's probably a way. Do some rewiring.
My story...I lived in a 'two-family' place with two meters in the DR.
Never could rationalize receiving a large bill when I hadn't seen lights
in that month. As it turned out the landlord with A/c was paying my
bill and vice-versa.
After seeing Brenda's bill I don't feel so bad. Mine is like $16 and
the next hundred is the "fuel surcharge' which you have little control
over. The pisser is a $3 "billing fee". Why do I have to pay them
extra to bill me?
I know the answer...its because they can.
-Bill
Carter
> My story...I lived in a 'two-family' place with two meters in the DR.
> Never could rationalize receiving a large bill when I hadn't seen lights
> in that month. As it turned out the landlord with A/c was paying my
> bill and vice-versa.
Purely an honest mistake, right? ;-)
Tim
> green.
That would make sense if they were being newly manufactured. But
they're not. If anything, this promotes their re-use; which is very
green!
Ken G.
Michael Black
> That 70,s show has a couple in the basement where the kids hang out .
>
>
I never noticed.
In that case, it's likely just stuff that was left around, rather than
someone going out and getting a tube radio because they think it looks
cool.
Michael
Tim Mullen
>The Ameila Airhart movie had several. One slanted front console was
>sitting out on a rain swept porch, looked very out of place. Ken
I have a post-production credit on "Amelia", I believe. If
anyone catches it, watch the credits! :)
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