Free tablet with Cracked but WORKING screen on offer for the right Hacker :)

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Ashfaq Juna

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Apr 16, 2013, 4:16:54 PM4/16/13
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Hello all

I have one of this in PINK,  , http://www.amazon.co.uk/NATPC-M010SE-Android-Tablet-Allwinner/dp/B00BI065XM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363474253&sr=8-1.

I want to give this to someone who is willing to get this working with a prolific usb <>uart adapter either by doing something with the existing Android 4.0.4 (ICS) or putting Jellybean (4.1) etc on it or something else . I don't really mind as long as the usb adapter works correctly as a comport

The aim being that the method of achieving this is made public here for everyones benefit, so that we can all make use of these slow but really affordable tables for our projects/experiments.

What will be provided:
1. Tablet (with a cracked but useable screen) in PINK:) charger not inluded. Takes charge from micro usb charger. UartFree utility pre installed.
2. Micro usb > USB OTG adapter
3. Prolific USB <> UART adapter
4. Some cables to connect the Prolific adapter to other things
5. A pre-programmed picaxe board the will send data that can be used to test the PROLIFIC usb adapter to make testing easier

So , if you are interested in this experimental excercise, please post your replies here.  If there is someone keen to do this, I will ask for your address so as to send this pack to you free of charge (sorry no refunds). :)

Thanks

Ryan .

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Apr 16, 2013, 4:49:48 PM4/16/13
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Bluetooth is easier and imho ftdi chips are much better supported than usb

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Ryan .

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Apr 16, 2013, 4:50:19 PM4/16/13
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Ftdi chips are much better supported than prolific sorry

Ashfaq Juna

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Apr 17, 2013, 2:14:56 AM4/17/13
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I agree that is the case for PC platforms, but on android it seems that prolific USB adapter is more popular and better supported. I have tried ftdi cables on Android too with no luck. .

Ryan .

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Apr 17, 2013, 3:41:59 AM4/17/13
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But what about Bluetooth?

barnaby

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Apr 17, 2013, 9:55:43 AM4/17/13
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Just to second, on Android bluetooth is MUCH easier. TTL level
bluetooth serial devices are really cheep on ebay.

In general on Android you have two approaches to USB<->Serial:

Android 4 started recognising serial adapters and exposing them though
the Android API's. This allows them to be used by any Android
application (though you have to effectively handle the driver yourself).
Some devices still aren't recognised (less common CDC ones), and fall
though to the second approach:

Prior to Android 4 (maybe 3), and for devices it doesn't recognise,
Android itself ignores the device instead gives it to the underlying
Linux kernel. Many phones/tables actually included the Linux drivers so
stuff dose show up in /dev (usually with non-standard names look in
/proc/tty/drivers). However these do not play nice with Androids
security and so are only accessible on rooted devices and via the Linux
APIs.

Here are examples of the two approches:

My g-code host can access the Linux drivers on a rooted device (and use
bluetooth on any device):

https://zi.is/p/browser/DroidRap

Attached is an example of using the new USB device support in 4+. (Yes
I need to combine the two when I get time).

Obviously also worth remembering that Android's OTG ports often don't
provide even the power the serial converter needs.
SerialActivity.java

Max Lock

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Apr 17, 2013, 9:59:22 AM4/17/13
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Hi All,

Yeah bluetooth serial is the way to go. I've hooked cheap module to an
arduino to talk to my phone. Piece of cake, really :)

-Max

Ashfaq Juna

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Apr 17, 2013, 10:02:41 AM4/17/13
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Thank you all for the replies

This wretched but cheap tablet doesn't have Bluetooth.

USB<>serial works perfectly on my phone running 4.1 Android. . I am confident that if this tablet has 4.1 installed then it will be OK. ..

Alan Wood

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Apr 17, 2013, 11:03:16 AM4/17/13
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Barnaby out of interest what bitrate can you get up to with those cheap bluetooth adapters you use?

regards
Al

barnaby

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Apr 17, 2013, 11:06:47 AM4/17/13
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I have never tried changing it from 115200 baud, but I believe they
support something like 2Mbps.

Ashfaq Juna

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Apr 18, 2013, 5:30:06 PM4/18/13
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I guess no takers ...

Can someone who knows a bit more than I do,  point me to an image of android 4.1 which may work on this tablet?  I don't mind if I brick this tablet. . :-)

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I have never tried changing it from 115200 baud, but I believe they support something like 2Mbps.

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Stuart Ward

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Apr 19, 2013, 5:01:37 AM4/19/13
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Ashfaq Juna

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Apr 19, 2013, 5:04:52 AM4/19/13
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no.. :(

I think thats what I will get with a non-popular brand.. Oh well
:)

mikethebee

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Apr 20, 2013, 4:53:31 AM4/20/13
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Ashfaq, I would suggest that you bring it along to the space and we can work on it as a community project. I have FTDI cables that I can try connecting to my Nanode using Prolific drivers as per your suggestion above. It shouldn't add to much of a burden to the move :)

-Mike

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no.. :(

I think thats what I will get with a non-popular brand.. Oh well
:)
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I guess no takers ...

Can someone who knows a bit more than I do,  point me to an image of android 4.1 which may work on this tablet?  I don't mind if I brick this tablet. . :-)

On 17 Apr 2013 16:06, "barnaby" <b+reading...@zi.is> wrote:
I have never tried changing it from 115200 baud, but I believe they support something like 2Mbps.

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Ashfaq Juna

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Apr 20, 2013, 5:00:10 AM4/20/13
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Good idea

Thank you.

I will also bring the USB adapters I have

When is a good time?

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