RDRC Rules Change & Items to Vote On

[wb4...@teara.org]

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Item #1- Those of you at the meeting the last two months, or watched the
meeting online, know about this. During the October meeting, it was
discussed to set the Sunday flying "start time" at 9am for electrics
aircraft & sailplanes, and 11:30am for gas or glow powered aircraft. This
was discussed at the October meeting, and voted on at the November meeting.
This change was passed by unanimous vote, and will take effect on Jan 1,
2010. This is to help keep peace with our good neighbour, Belethehem Church,
during their Sunday morning services.

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Item #2- There's one item to vote on at the Christmas party that needs to be
thought about, talked over at the field, discussed on the forum, etc as
needed, and voted on with a quick vote at the party. This needs to be done
by year-end, and will be the only item of business at the December 16th
Christmas party.

A motion was made to raise the club dues by $10, from $75/yr to $85/yr. This
is an increase of $.84/month.

The "pro" reason for this request is due to the fact that our operating
expenses, utilities, supplies for field maintenance, etc have increased over
the last several years, but our dues have not. Membership in 2009 was about
140, down from 165 in 2009, though most of that reduction was in loss of
Associate Members. At the time the last change in dues was made, we had less
expensive lawn maintenance from the membership, didn't run things in the
shed, and supplies were chaeaper.

The "con" discussion I heard was the currently bad economy, and that several
current members are out of work at this time.

Mull this over, talk about it, and let's get this out of the way at the
Christmas party so it can go into effect (or not) on Jan 1st.

Dave

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[Dave Langridge]

http://sevs.sourceforge.net/


secure voting on the web :)

Dave L

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[Dave Langridge]

Opps...that source forge link is crap...this one looks
easier...unfortunately each member who wishes to vote will need to have a
Google account....

http://v1.heliosvoting.org/

looks good though....

Dave L

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> Subject: [RDRC] RDRC Rules Change & Items to Vote On
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[wb4...@teara.org]

>Opps...that source forge link is crap...this one looks
>easier...unfortunately each member who wishes to vote will need to have a
>Google account....
>http://v1.heliosvoting.org/
>looks good though....
>Dave L

Thanks Dave...keep looking also, let's get a good feel for what's out there.
I dug through a bunch last night, and was able to cheat every one of them in
about 10 minutes by using an anon IP generator. We need something where a
person would have to sign their vote with their name and maybe ama #, to
help make sure prople are only voting once.

If you can help me come up with something, either to install on our server
or run 3rd party like heliosvoting, we'll set it up in the "members only"
section, test it, and get it ready to go. It'll probably have to be approved
by the club and I think it'll need some sort of mod made to the constitution
to use it, since I think it would be considered an absentee voting system of
some sort. It would be a neat way to get more membership input on items by
those who often can't make the meetings.

BTW, I was surprised by the # of viewers this week, watching the RDRC
meeting online. That's not too hard to set up, but I do need to work on a
better mic than the one built into the cam :-)

Dave

[Greg Wright]

As a new member coming in, I would like to make a few comments from an
"outside perspective". I have started/been involved in many a clubs
in the past from flying fields, Ice Hockey Officials to Director of
the H.O.G. Club. I understand the diversity in the nature of numbers
and the complexity of the standard rule for clubs whichs seems to be
20% of the members do 100% of the work. With that being said, it's
simple really, the club is a business and should run as such to
include a business plan and operating budget. Also, certain things
should be planned in advanced for the general population of the
membership while other items will just remain to be spontanious. That
is why there is a monthly meeting, for those that want to be a part of
either of those should attend the meetings. The complexity of that is
"life"......it's busy and doesn't always allow us to do this so I feel
some form of alternative means for voting on the "big ticket" items
should be provided. But this should not be taken advantage of and
clear criteria should be developed for this type of system if the club
agrees to do this measure.

Otherwise, just be a part of your group instead of going to the field
and using vulgar language and stirring discontent all day!!! I'm not
saying there isn't legitimacy to the recent issues at hand, I am just
saying there are much better ways to handle it and being a part of the
solution is much better than being a part of the problem. Let me just
be clear here......I have not been a regular attender to the meeting
because of evening conflicts which I am still working out, on the same
hand because of that I am also not voicing my opinions (until now). If
you want something different, then spend the time and energy to make
the difference. At least at the end of the day you can walk away
knowing that you did your part even if it didn't change anything.
Democracy folks, we are never going to please everyone all of the
time.....consider it a good day if you can please majority of the
people most of the time.

The club belongs to all of us, so if you decide you don't like
something, then make a constructive approach at letting the others
know versus the opposite. The fees are minimal compared to many clubs
out there that offer less.

Personally for me (just 1 persons opinion) I enjoyed working the "Fly
for Tots" event, and I thoroughly enjoy giving back in any area that I
am able to. I am also re-arranging my schedule to be more a part of
the internal workings of the club and attend the meetings so if I have
an opinion about something that will be my opportunity to toss it out
there. This is a great club, beautiful field and some great guys
behind the scenes working away without ever asking for any
recognition. THANK YOU TO ALL FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!!!

As far as I can see, this club allows you to be a major part or just
come up and fly without expectations.......it doesn't get any better
than that!!!! But if you decide to be a part of "the major" stuff, do
it constructively, thoughtfully and without spreading discontent.

Thanks for listening and allowing me to voice my opinioin in a
productive way.........Greg

[Dave Langridge]

Nicely said Greg.

We'll get there eventually :)

Dave L