Question about women's riding clothes (not for me)
Kip Otteson
years ago. She is just starting to get into the idea of touring as a
family event. The latest 2 day tour with a stay in a nice guesthouse
sealed the deal. I'm so excited she's finally getting with the
program! I buy her all of her cycling gear. The last thing I bought
her was a Terry cycling skort thing. It works well and she likes it
but I want to get something much less involved. No built in liner,
etc. She also doesn't like lycra or how it looks.
Anyway, it seems like all the Riv gear is oriented towards men.
Anybody know of Musa type stuff that is made for women? I'll get her
going on some wool tops from Riv, but the bottoms are not as
flattering. Anyone's wives or girlfriends have any recommendations?
She's not a fashion person at all, but the more I can get her stuff
that works the more she'll ride.
Thanks.
Kip Otteson
Justin August
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cyclotourist
Girlie stuff is here: http://www.swobo.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1044
They have removable liners for the pants/shorts, and the jerseys are just marvelous...
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Bruce
Anyway, it seems like all the Riv gear is oriented towards men.
Anybody know of Musa type stuff that is made for women? I'll get her
going on some wool tops from Riv, but the bottoms are not as
flattering. Anyone's wives or girlfriends have any recommendations?
She's not a fashion person at all, but the more I can get her stuff
that works the more she'll ride.
Thanks.
Kip Otteson
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beth h
Grant likes clothing that fits loose and comfortable, so MUSA stuff
tends to be designed on a full cut.
For things that are more female-form-fitting and even "girly", I
really like SWRVE (http://www.swrvestore.com/). It's US-made apparel
and many of their styles are womens' specific without being lycra-
esque. I have a pair of their knickers that are stylish without being
super-clingy. And durable! I'm going into my third year with them as a
regular three-season garment, and they're good as new.
Suggestion: perhaps ask your wife to get more directly involved in
ordering her cycling clothing? Sometimes women are better at
describing their fit needs themselves than men are doing it for them.
Just a thought. Good luck --Beth
Anne Paulson
>
> Anyway, it seems like all the Riv gear is oriented towards men.
> Anybody know of Musa type stuff that is made for women? I'll get her
> going on some wool tops from Riv, but the bottoms are not as
> flattering. Anyone's wives or girlfriends have any recommendations?
I don't have a wife or a girlfriend but I do have some recommendations.
Lately I've been loving Ibex woolie tops for riding and just wearing
around. They're better looking and also more comfortable than the Riv
stuff. My favorite style is the zip T-neck.
On cold days (for here-- I live in the San Francisco Bay Area) I layer
an Ibex zipfront Shak over the woolie.
http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product/1355/8742/womens-woolies-zip-t-neck-stripe
http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product/1367/8447/womens-shak-full-zip
And for touring, I bring along this cozy wool jacket. The hood fits
closely, so I can put my helmet over it.
http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product/1394/7440/womens-carrie-fz-hoody
Ibex also sells wool shorts, but I still remember the wool cycling
shorts of yore, so I haven't tried the Ibex ones. I might relent and
try these knickers, though. They look great.
http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product/1482/8990/womens-el-fito-three-quarter-bike-knickers
Searching around, I found these good-looking wool riding knickers:
http://www.teamestrogen.com/prodSM_7572.html
That's a Team Estrogen page. Team Estrogen has an enormous inventory
of women's cycling clothes of all kinds.
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He who wills the ends wills the means
MichaelH
likes their shorts, arm & leg warmers for rides of more than an hour.
Michael
On Jan 2, 11:02 pm, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Kip Otteson <kip.otte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, it seems like all the Riv gear is oriented towards men.
> > Anybody know of Musa type stuff that is made for women? I'll get her
> > going on some wool tops from Riv, but the bottoms are not as
> > flattering. Anyone's wives or girlfriends have any recommendations?
>
> I don't have a wife or a girlfriend but I do have some recommendations.
>
> Lately I've been loving Ibex woolie tops for riding and just wearing
> around. They're better looking and also more comfortable than the Riv
> stuff. My favorite style is the zip T-neck.
> On cold days (for here-- I live in the San Francisco Bay Area) I layer
> an Ibex zipfront Shak over the woolie.http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product/1355/8742/womens-woolies-zip-t-n...http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product/1367/8447/womens-shak-full-zip
>
> And for touring, I bring along this cozy wool jacket. The hood fits
> closely, so I can put my helmet over it.http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product/1394/7440/womens-carrie-fz-hoody
>
> Ibex also sells wool shorts, but I still remember the wool cycling
> shorts of yore, so I haven't tried the Ibex ones. I might relent and
> try these knickers, though. They look great.http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product/1482/8990/womens-el-fito-three-q...
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Seth Vidal
> FWIW, My wife likes their uppers, but now their lowers.
>
My significant other wears A LOT of clothing from the Title-9 catalogue.
Title-9 is one of the catalogues that makes me a bit envious.
Excellent clothing - looks good w/o looking sport-specific.
-sv
Saturday Mark
regard to lycra or wool, but in any case Sheila is a great person and
cycling supporter!
Lisa -S.H.
> I buy her all of her cycling gear. The last thing I bought
> her was a Terry cycling skort thing. It works well and she likes it
> but I want to get something much less involved. No built in liner,
> etc. She also doesn't like lycra or how it looks.
>
> Anyway, it seems like all the Riv gear is oriented towards men.
> Anybody know of Musa type stuff that is made for women? I'll get her
> going on some wool tops from Riv, but the bottoms are not as
> flattering. Anyone's wives or girlfriends have any recommendations?
> She's not a fashion person at all, but the more I can get her stuff
> that works the more she'll ride.
> Thanks.
> Kip Otteson
Kip,
I too recommend Ibex.com
I also recommend she get over to TeamEstrogen.com for the largest
selection of woemn's biking and other sports wear found anywhere- they
also have the world's best customer service and all the women there can
answer her fit/function questions very well.
The only thing I wonder about is why are you choosing clothes for her?
?? Let her ask some recommendations on the phone from the VERY
experienced and helpful women over at both Ibex and Team Estrogen and
let her decide what she'd like to try. Some women who 'don't like
lycra' seem to like knickers ok.
I like the Ibex "Shak" merino tops. Their wool heavy tights are nice
too, as are their "El Fitto" wool biking knickers. I like most of the
SheBeest tights, knickers, and shorts from TE, also their Louis Garneau
brands of bottoms.
Both sites have choices for loose pants that move well for biking and
don't look like 'tights'.
Does she only want to wear skirts/skorts for biking? TE has LOTS of
those to choose from.
Lisa
Cheryl Mitchell
My friend also just got a knee-length skirt that is meant for cycling and other athletic activities. It has a built-in short that's not padded, but provides coverage. This is from Athleta.com, which has a lot of great women's athletic wear (though not much for cycling).
For tops, I really like my Swobo wool jerseys, both short and long sleeved. They have a women's-specific cut.
Good luck!
-Cheryl
David Hallerman
Their smallest size women's shorts were too big on her, and she has strong cyclist butt and thighs (not skinny there). So if the smallest size was too big, that implies major mis-sizing.
Earth Wind and Rider has made her "fave" (her word, she's standing right behind me) wool jerseys, but right now not too many women's sized wool from them. The owner of the company, Bill, told me that more women's wool jerseys to come later this month.
Dave, who spent some good time at a post-Boxing Day party talking wool with some women cyclists who love the stuff
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Anne Paulson
> +1 from my wife, too...likes and loves Ibex upperwear, for cycling and the
> rest of life, but has had problems with their shorts.
>
> Their smallest size women's shorts were too big on her, and she has strong
> cyclist butt and thighs (not skinny there). So if the smallest size was too
> big, that implies major mis-sizing.
For an opposite perspective, I find Ibex's Loose Tights (knit wool
pants), which I like a lot, run a little small in sizing. But they
have an excellent return policy and helpful phone clerks.
muckum
beth h
if you're a woman of size. And according to their sizing charts, I
apparently qualify as a woman of size. Sorry, but I think womens'
sizing -- especially in sports-type apparel -- is sort of crazy.
That's why I generally stick with mens apparel for my bicycling needs
(including those Swrve knickers which I recommended earlier).
Beth
Lynne Fitz
cycling gear, have knowledgeable staff (call, really, if you have any
questions), and a great return policy. They publish the size charts
for everything they sell and they'll tell you (often on the web page)
if clothing runs large or small. If you look under the Speciality
menubar item, you will find "Wool".
No, I don't work there :-)
Title Nine - you know, I don't see myself in their catalog. I'm too
old, and not built like a twig. And I don't look ethereal enough.
And I AM A REAL TITLE 9 ATHLETE FROM THE 70's, DAMMIT!
Lynne "subsiding now" F
> > Excellent clothing - looks good w/o looking sport-specific.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Steve Palincsar
> Title Nine has some very nice stuff, but is generally a massive bummer
> if you're a woman of size. And according to their sizing charts, I
> apparently qualify as a woman of size.
Then they must cater primarily to stick insects. You are many things,
but a "woman of size" ain't one of them, imho.
Seth Vidal
They cater to my girlfriend, apparently. She's 5'8" 135lbs-ish.
I wouldn't consider her a stick insect of any kind.
-sv
Lisa -S.H.
This is a common problem. People who look at me would mostly think I'm
a normal sized woman, I'm not 'big' by anyone's standard, and I'm 5'5".
But when buying cycling or athletic clothes I usually have to get XL for
the bottoms (and L for most tops). Imagine, I actually have hips ...and
a butt! LOL! They come in handy for working one's way through a crowd.
Lynne- I don't look ethereal enough for the Title Nine catalog either.
And I'd probably wouldn't be fashionably 'tweedy/rumply' enough for any
Riv catalog. ;)
Lisa
Larry Powers
I haven't been following this thread so this may have been brought up already but my wife has had good luck with Terry for clothes. She can either wear their XL or their 1X and they tend to have a reasonable selection in their plus sized line.
Larry Powers
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kps
shak hoody, the wool long-sleeved t), and i find Ibex
to wear better than Smartwool (i have one of their zip wool sweaters,
and while it's nice, the wool isn't as soft and it pills up).
i gave my father the upper/lower Ibex woolies for Christmas (he's
always worn patagonia capilene when outside in the cold), and i'm
hoping he'll like the Ibex as much as I do.
i've found, as an additional layer, the patagonia down 'sweater' vest
(800 instead of 650, but very light in weight and not bulky) to be
nice. i have lived in mine since getting it this holiday season.
though they're not quite a 4-season piece, i LOVE the Gamut capri from
Arcteryx. i stumbled across them when Backcountry.com was having a
sale.
they run small (i'm normally a 6, i bought 8s), but they're made of
canvas and they're supremely comfortable. i liked them so much i
bought FOUR pair. i don't think they
were made specifically for biking, but they're super. they have a
gussetted crotch and a soft lining at the waist. they don't bind as
you rid.
i paid list for one and got all the others for under $30 a pair.
maybe i'm the only woman who loves them. <G> i tried buying the Gamut
pant, too. too
big in the leg, and i didn't like the Gamut shorts either (too wide in
the leg--almost like a skort, and too short for my taste in shorts),
but the capri
was spot on for me. nice Riv'ish colors, too (slate blue and dark
green). highly recommend them.
i've been thinking i might try the new Outlier women's daily riding
pant, but it might be tricky figuring out the sizing on that pant.
whatever i order will probably be
too small. ;) www.outlier.cc
thanks to beth for the link to swrve, and anne for the wool knicker
link at team estrogen. oh, and i have often thought of trying
something at SWOBO, but haven't yet. maybe soon.
Kip--here's to your wife finding just the right attire.
-kim
kps
one more piece i forgot to mention, and it's not specific to women.
i highly recommend the new merino wool "Buff". i have one and i gave
one to my friend
who spends hours walking her golden retriver, and she loves it too.
gave one to my boyfriend
and he loves it too. it's longer than the regular buff, and it's
roomier, too. perfect for
pulling up over your mouth/nose while riding. i wear one all the
time. it drapes nicely when
used as a neck gaiter.
washes well, doesn't shrink, doesn't stink, etc.
i think Rivendell should carry the wool Buffs. ;-)
-k
cyclotourist
http://epicureancyclist.blogspot.com/2009/03/womens-wednesdays-in-search-of-perfect.html
http://epicureancyclist.blogspot.com/2009/03/womens-wednesday-on-thursday-perfect.html
Funny, I think everyone commenting on this thread has already read and the blog!!!
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beth h
sizing charts for womens-specific bike clothing.
When the largest chest size offered is a 40 and the largest hip size
offered is a 32 (and they call THAT XL, btw!), it's downright silly.
I recently had to order team kit from a large bikewear maker and their
sizing turns out to be all over the map. AND they got it wrong for
about half the team. They got MY jersey right, but only because I
ordered -- sit down -- the Womens' 3X.
I honestly don't see how clothing manufacturers hope to get more women
onto bikes if they don't/won't make clothing to fit more of them.
I mean, seriously -- how much DO I have to suck my cheeks in?
..::shrugs::..
Beth
On Jan 4, 4:54 am, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 19:26 -0800, beth h wrote:
> > Title Nine... [snip] ...according to their sizing charts, I
Steve Palincsar
> Yeah, well, I used to think so, too, until I started looking at the
> sizing charts for womens-specific bike clothing.
> When the largest chest size offered is a 40 and the largest hip size
> offered is a 32 (and they call THAT XL, btw!), it's downright silly.
>
> I recently had to order team kit from a large bikewear maker and their
> sizing turns out to be all over the map. AND they got it wrong for
> about half the team. They got MY jersey right, but only because I
> ordered -- sit down -- the Womens' 3X.
> I honestly don't see how clothing manufacturers hope to get more women
> onto bikes if they don't/won't make clothing to fit more of them.
>
> I mean, seriously -- how much DO I have to suck my cheeks in?
As I said, they appear to be catering to stick insects.
Seth Vidal
Steve,
A suggestion: If a company if not targetting a set of people with a
certain body attribute I don't think it is necessary to insult the
group of folks who do like and buy their products.
Thanks,
-sv
Anne Paulson
>
> As I said, they appear to be catering to stick insects.
I buy a lot of clothes at Title 9. I like their styles, I wish they
would sell clothes for bigger women, because I'm at the upper end of
their size range, but there is no way anyone would possibly call me a
stick insect.
Anne Paulson
> pant, but it might be tricky figuring out the sizing on that pant.
> whatever i order will probably be
> too small. ;) www.outlier.cc
Someone mentioned that they thought Title Nine clothes were only for
small women. Outlier clothes are for even smaller women. Biggest pant
size a 10??!! But they do go down to a size 0. (That, I suppose, is
why they're called Outlier. Women who wear a size 0 are definitely
outliers.) Someone should let them know the average woman wears a 14.