Rivendell Roadeo or Other

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sjauch

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Jan 4, 2010, 4:54:01 PM1/4/10
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I currently have a 2005 Specialized Allez Comp. It was my first road
bike and it is about a size too big and only recently got comfortable
riding it once I put an 80mm stem on it.

Anyway I have been looking for a new road bike and want to go with a
steel frame, preferably lugged. I have been eyeing the Rivendell
Roadeo, as well as the De Rosa Corum (not lugged) and custom builders,
Jeff Lyon and Circle A Cycles. I am very close to sending in a deposit
to Jeff Lyon because of his experience with building the type of
frames I'm interested in. However, I have resisted because I am drawn
to the Rivendell Roadeo since it is similar to what I would like Jeff
Lyon to build me. Also I am out in CA two or three times a year and
stay pretty close to where Rivendell is located. So, I can visit them
and test ride a similar frame to what I would be buying. They have 2
55cm's built up and I'm a 52 or 53, so even though It's not my size I
can hopefully still get an idea of how it rides.

I also really like the De Rosa, but none of the shops I called keep
them in stock and if I am going to buy it locally I'd like to be able
to take it out for a spin to see how things feel. If I'm dropping over
2k for that frame I might as well send my $ off to Lyon and let him
build me something since I couldn't test ride that either and is
probably more what I want.

That brings me back to the Rivendell and Lyon dilemma. I want a lugged
frame that is as light as practical and can fit fenders if I want to
use them. I like the Lyon option because for about the same as the
Rivendell I am getting something made just for me. However he is
relying on the measurements and info I provide to make the correct
frame. With the Riv bike I can visit them and let them take my
measurements to determine which size Roadeo is the best fit.

So I am really confused and am asking here to see which way some of
you would go.

Thanks!

Seth Vidal

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:34:43 PM1/4/10
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On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:54 PM, sjauch <sja...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> So I am really confused and am asking here to see which way some of
> you would go.
>

I'd say go by rbwhq and try out the roadeo. That will likely make most
of the decision for you.

-sv

cyclotourist

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:40:17 PM1/4/10
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The Roadeo looks like such a great bike, I don't see how you could go wrong as long as you were fit correctly on one.  Light racer with fat tire clearance, what's not to like!?!?!?

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Redlands, CA

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rperks

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:58:17 PM1/4/10
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I was having a similar decision making process when I decided to go
with the Roadeo. I had been looking at the Lyons and also Banjo
Bicycles, he did the Velo Orange Pass Hunter. I was looking for
something similar to the Pass Hunter, but with side pull brakes.
Also, at the time Riv had a red Legolas on special, but I really
wanted side pulls. I had saved up the coin, and had approval from the
wife to be, yet held on starting the dialogue with Banjo when the
Roadeo was announced. After a few emails exchanged with Mark I knew
my fate was sealed. The bike has met and exceeded my expectations in
every way. For the price I do not believe it can be beat if it is the
geometry that you are looking for. The custom builders, including
Waterford, start just a little above the price of entry for the
Roadeo, and it goes up quick from there. at $2k it is competitive in
the current market. Follow your gut feeling, and a test ride cannot
hurt either. You can see pics of my ride here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36302507@N08/sets/72157622875811028/

That being said, I will ride the Roadeo a long long time, but it will
not be my last road bike, there will always be more

Rob

Ray Shine

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:24:57 AM1/5/10
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That is one nice ride!  Makes me want one…again…


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Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadeo or Other
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John Stoesser

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:29:42 AM1/5/10
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"So I am really confused and am asking here to see which way some of
you would go."

I recently battled with the same dilemma.

If you have the ability to visit Rivendell and take a ride on the bike, that
is a great way to go. I did not have that option being in Chicago. I went
with a custom Waterford Adventure Cycle. I felt comfortable with the
Waterford knowing that Riv has them building for them. In the process of
sizing I referred to Riv features, philosophy etc. and they were comfortable
with my discussions. I also used a LBS that measured and fit me, he had good
credentials, and I was comfortable with him. I neglected to mention the seat
tube on the Waterford is 68cm. My PBH is 99, so I'm at a disadvantage when
it comes to fit choices.

Having said that if I was close enough, or if I had the opportunity to visit
Riv, I would have tested a 64cm Bombadil or a 67 or larger Homer. If they
still had them in stock, which they didn't, a 68cm Atlantis would have been
on my list also. I am awaiting my Waterford hoping it will be all that I
imagine, but as I was unable to test one even remotely close in size, I am
going on faith. I still wonder if the 64 Bombadil would have been a good
fit, but I also feel that for $300 more than the cost of the Bombadil I am
receiving a bike built for my specs. Are they apples to apples? Not exactly,
but I'm comfortable, and Waterford is about an hours drive from me.

Again if I was in your situation definitely check out the Rivendell before
you buy. You'll know exactly what you are getting. If you decide against the
Rivendell you will know for sure why you decided not to buy the Rivendell.
If you decide to buy the Rivendell, you will probably have it much sooner
than your custom.
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Patrick in VT

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:05:27 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 4, 4:54 pm, sjauch <sja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>They have 2 55cm's built up and I'm a 52 or 53, so even though It's not my size I
> can hopefully still get an idea of how it rides.

you might find that a 55 is exactly what rivendell recommends. have a
look at riv's sizing/fit philosophy and be open minded about it if
you're not already familiar with it.

PBH (pubic bone height) is the crucial measurement for Rivendell. You
can take this measurement yourself and figure out what size frame
they'll most likely recommend.


Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:26:41 PM1/5/10
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There is always some risk in a custom bike because every custom is one-
of-a-kind, and there are no prototypes, etc to work out the bugs
before the customer pays the bill and takes the frame/bike. And if you
don't like it, a custom can be tough to sell. Rivendell has the
advantage of having designed/sold thousands of bikes, not including
the even larger number of GP-designed Bridgestones. Unless you have
some really strange bodily dimension to accommodate, or want some non-
standard features on the frame, I'd suggest the stock Roadeo.

(I have a custom bike and it's wonderful, but not every custom owner
has the same positive experience...)

JoelMatthews

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:11:50 PM1/5/10
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Good points, Jim. I am 50/50 on customs. One worked great for me
(until a blasted truck ran over it) the other not so well.

I keep coming back, but I am in a position where maybe that is not so
hard for me. A Riv is a pretty good candidate for someone's first
good bike (or second, third, or fourth!)

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sjauch

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:13:51 PM1/5/10
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Thanks all for the for the input, keep it coming. I am leaning towards
the Roadeo (digging the white & blue) and will see what the Riv crew
says when I pay them a visit. I've visited them before and appreciate
their honesty.

Jim: Grant's knowledge and experience is another comforting factor as
well as buying from an established business.

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usuk2007

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:56:35 PM1/7/10
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I understand the desire to ride before you buy, but why didn't you
consider
the De Rosa Neo Primato. That's lugged steel and you can even get it
with a threaded stem. De Rosa dealers will fit you before you buy as
well
and at $2k it's not a bad deal.

I had a similar decision to make as you a few months ago and almost
went
with the Roadeo, but the geometry was so similar to my Ram that I
decided
a 41cm chainstay, horizontal top tube, Italian lugged steel bike was
what was
missing from my bike collection.

Why not go to Riv, or any other store, and ride a few bikes to see
what you like then take that
geometry to Lyon with any small tweeks you'd like on your custom bike

Volney Hildreth

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Feb 9, 2015, 9:27:01 AM2/9/15
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I have both a Rivendell Saluki and a 650B Lyon and I like the Lyon a lot.

Joe Bernard

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Feb 9, 2015, 7:45:34 PM2/9/15
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How did you find a 5-year-old thread?? ;)

Kieran J

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Feb 9, 2015, 8:52:36 PM2/9/15
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I opened the thread, and saw Seth Vidal's post as the #2.
RIP Seth - your spirit lives on, mate ..

KJ

RJM

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Feb 10, 2015, 8:03:59 AM2/10/15
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I've ridden quite a few road bikes and by far my favorite is my Rivendell Roadeo, so I would say go with that. The Riv builds up really nicely, is very comfortable riding, and when you give it the gas the bike just goes. I can't really express how glad I am I bought the Roadeo.

I built mine up in a not so Riv fashion using a complete Shimano 6800 Ultegra group with some Rolf Vigor RS wheels. I went the quill stem route and use a nice looking Nitto lugged quill stem, mark's bar, Nitto seatpost, some lighter weight saddle, and I switch the tires between 25c Conti tires or 32 Compass Stampede Pass tires. My 53cm Roadeo sits at under 20 pounds right now.

When I got my frame from Riv, I had them paint it Orange and it came out great, but I have to say the blue color they have as a stock frame color is really top notch looking, IMHO.


I'd say go on a test ride and then make your decision...but just realize that if you feel like it, you can build up the roadeo lighter than their "stock" build, if that matters to you.
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