Soma Riv

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Andrew

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:16:04 PM1/7/10
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I went to Rivendell today and saw a prototype Soma and Rivendell
collaboration frameset. It has Riv lugs, roadeoish geometry and medium
reach brakes. It looks like a romulus and rambouillet mix, its tealish
blue with fancy lugs but no contrasting headtube. Don't know what its
going to retail for or when they are coming.

Seth Vidal

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:19:12 PM1/7/10
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Maybe it's the next taiwan-made road-bike targeting the more
inexpensive end of where the roadeo targets now?

-sv

Aaron Thomas

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:31:19 PM1/7/10
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Get any pictures?

franklyn

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:35:44 PM1/7/10
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Maybe this is what we are talking about?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/somafab/4251591019/

Franklyn

Seth Vidal

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:37:30 PM1/7/10
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:35 PM, franklyn <frank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe this is what we are talking about?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/somafab/4251591019/
>

Wow, good find.

-sv

Steve Palincsar

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:39:09 PM1/7/10
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I'm sure it is. Interesting, when the photo was first mentioned on one
of the lists I subscribe to it was described as looking like a Romulus.
Now it's clear why that is! According to the comment on the photo, the
frame is "in the works for 2011".

Seth Vidal

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:40:06 PM1/7/10
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com> wrote:
> I'm sure it is.  Interesting, when the photo was first mentioned on one
> of the lists I subscribe to it was described as looking like a Romulus.
> Now it's clear why that is!  According to the comment on the photo, the
> frame is "in the works for 2011".


So far away....
-sv

Eric Norris

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:40:45 PM1/7/10
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A Riv made with 4140 tubing? Let's hope Soma uses some decent tubing for the frame ... and a flat fork crown.

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Andrew

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:47:51 PM1/7/10
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Yeah thats the frame I saw and it had the same soma logo on the
downtube. No fork
was on the frame.

On Jan 7, 1:40 pm, Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> wrote:
> A Riv made with 4140 tubing?  Let's hope Soma uses some decent tubing for the frame ... and a flat fork crown.
>
> --Eric

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> On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
>
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> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Andrew <andrewkib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I went to Rivendell today and saw a prototype Soma  and Rivendell
> >> collaboration frameset. It has Riv lugs, roadeoish geometry and medium
> >> reach brakes. It looks like a romulus and rambouillet mix, its tealish
> >> blue with fancy lugs but no contrasting headtube. Don't know what its
> >> going to retail for or when they are coming.
>
> > Maybe it's the next taiwan-made road-bike targeting the more
> > inexpensive end of where the roadeo targets now?
>
> > -sv
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Michael_S

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:04:12 PM1/7/10
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Wow, that is nice! Looks like a carbon copy of the Romulus... that
will certainly sell if they get the fork and tubing right.
I've had a Reynolds 631 Soma Double Cross for 4 years and it rides
really well... just missing some nice lugs.

must be caused by that hip San Francisco bike vibe!


James Warren

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:48:40 PM1/7/10
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That would be my favorite style - plain lugs, single color paint and great, solid bike!


-----Original Message-----
>From: franklyn <frank...@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 7, 2010 1:35 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Soma Riv
>
>Maybe this is what we are talking about?
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/somafab/4251591019/
>
>Franklyn
>
>On Jan 7, 1:31 pm, Aaron Thomas <aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Get any pictures?
>>

Mike

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:48:42 PM1/7/10
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This is good news. Hopefully there will be a threaded fork option like
with the Roadeo. And hopefully the referene to this being a project
for 2011 is a typo.

--mike

Steve Palincsar

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:52:27 PM1/7/10
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You might be surprised at how long it takes to get some of these frame
projects from initial conception to delivered product.

Mike

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:54:06 PM1/7/10
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I wouldn't be surprised at all. But I would still hope that it's a
typo and this frame will be available in 2010.

Andrew

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Jan 7, 2010, 11:12:26 PM1/7/10
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I asked Grant, the fork is going to be threaded

richard hargrove

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:45:55 AM1/8/10
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Eric Norris wrote:
> A Riv made with 4140 tubing? Let's hope Soma uses
> some decent tubing for the frame ... and a flat fork crown.

While Surly frames are made with 4140 cromo, currently all Soma frames
are made with Tange Prestige tubing. I'd always assumed Tange Prestige
was not plain cromo.

As to what the actual specs for the Soma/Riv frame will be, we can
only await word from either.

richard
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sjauch

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Jan 8, 2010, 10:07:10 AM1/8/10
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Crazy!! Hopefully they'll use a nice steel, maybe Reynolds 525/531.

I'm heading out to Riv the end of this month. I'll try to get some
photos.

jpp

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:37:46 AM1/8/10
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I wonder the Riv-Soma relationship.

Will it be a taiwan made roadeo and grant allowed them to use the
design?

Or is it a soma design that grant tweaked?

Plus I wonder what the cost would be, if it is close to $1000 in my
opinion most people would go with a hillborne with thinner tires.

But this might be a nice way of introducing the mostly younger crowd
of soma to the world of Riv.

Aaron Thomas

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Jan 8, 2010, 1:00:03 PM1/8/10
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I, for one, wouldn't go with a Hillborne under the scenario you
depict. If the geometry of this new offering is more "road" (like the
Romulus or Roadeo) and less "country bike" I'd opt for it in a flash
over the Hillborne. The Romulus is a great bike.

A

Justin August

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Jan 8, 2010, 1:06:26 PM1/8/10
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My SOMA is made with Reynolds 631. WHile I have my gripes with it,
it's a fantastic frame/fork with a flat crown.

-Justin

On Jan 7, 4:40 pm, Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> wrote:
> A Riv made with 4140 tubing?  Let's hope Soma uses some decent tubing for the frame ... and a flat fork crown.
>
> --Eric

> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org


>
> On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Andrew <andrewkib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I went to Rivendell today and saw a prototype Soma  and Rivendell
> >> collaboration frameset. It has Riv lugs, roadeoish geometry and medium
> >> reach brakes. It looks like a romulus and rambouillet mix, its tealish
> >> blue with fancy lugs but no contrasting headtube. Don't know what its
> >> going to retail for or when they are coming.
>
> > Maybe it's the next taiwan-made road-bike targeting the more
> > inexpensive end of where the roadeo targets now?
>
> > -sv
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Michael_S

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:35:58 PM1/8/10
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The older Somas were made with Reynolds 631 ( I have a 2007 Double
Cross) but they switched to Tange (in 2009 I believe).
And the rumor is that the same shop in Taiwan ( Maxway) builds both
the Soma's and the Hillborne right now.

So this sort of thing seems fairly easy to do on paper. In reality
the start-up leadtimes for building a production frame can take a
while ...finalize frame design, design and build new jigs, order tube
stock and lugs, schedule assembly work amongst existing contracts, etc
etc. A year seems reasonable.

I agree with Aaron, this bike shoukld be a different target market
than the Hillborne. The Hillborne is designed for 35mm tires and
larger. Hopefully the Riv/Soma/ is designed for tires in the 25-35mm
range. ( at least that would make the most sense).

Mike S
Valencia CA

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