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Matt Johnson
May 8, 2012, 8:07:44 PM5/8/12
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I was just noticing that the Wikipedia entry on NoSQL databases is
lacking any reference to RavenDB. Also, much of the content is not
accurate with respect to RavenDB (ACID, indexing, etc).
I don't feel particularly qualified to update the Wikipedia entry.
Anyone else care to take a stab at it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoSQL_(concept)
-Matt
lacking any reference to RavenDB. Also, much of the content is not
accurate with respect to RavenDB (ACID, indexing, etc).
I don't feel particularly qualified to update the Wikipedia entry.
Anyone else care to take a stab at it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoSQL_(concept)
-Matt
Itamar Syn-Hershko
May 13, 2012, 3:18:49 AM5/13/12
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Matt, please feel free to go ahead and do this, let us know if you have any particular questions...
Fitzchak Yitzchaki
Jun 26, 2012, 4:03:06 AM6/26/12
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I updated this list to include RavenDB:
Obviously, we need more coverage in Wikipedia than that... :)
Oren Eini (Ayende Rahien)
Jun 26, 2012, 7:21:56 AM6/26/12
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And we would like that to come from outside the company. Self wikipeding is... strange.
Wyatt Barnett
Jun 29, 2012, 7:06:30 AM6/29/12
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Not so much -- most companies in the US post their own page to at least get the ball rolling and the flag planted. Who is more qualified to talk about you than you?
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:21:56 AM UTC-4, Oren Eini wrote:
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:21:56 AM UTC-4, Oren Eini wrote:
And we would like that to come from outside the company. Self wikipeding is... strange.
Itamar Syn-Hershko
Jun 29, 2012, 8:20:37 AM6/29/12
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The way Wikipedia works, is every edit gets inspected and argued about. And I mean EVERY edit.
Unlike every other company, we have a great community here, and I don't see a reason for us to fall into this trap of arguing about self-promotion in Wikipedia with devoted Wikipedians. We would be more than happy to work with anyone from the community who would like to do this and inspect the content / suggest improvements.
I may be wrong, but we ought to at least try do it this way first.
Free shirts to volunteers :)
Matt Johnson
Jun 29, 2012, 3:49:31 PM6/29/12
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I've added RavenDB on a few existing articles, but there is no main
entry for RavenDB. That is where the real work is needed. Other
databases like Mongo have their own entries, so I think Raven deserves
one as well.
The problem is that it looks like there WAS an entry at one point, but
it was deleted. The page should exist here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RavenDB
But there's a comment there:
02:52, 21 July 2010 Explicit (talk | contribs) deleted page RavenDB
(Expired PROD, concern was: Non-notable software (I coud find no
significant coverage in/by reliable sources to indicate notability.))
Perhaps two years ago, this may have been true, but I would certainly
think RavenDB has enough coverage today to be considered "notable" by
Wikipedia standards.
Is anyone here engaged enough with wikipedia to get the initial
article created and taken out of deletion status? I have only ever
made tiny edits to existing articles.
-Matt
On Jun 29, 5:20 am, Itamar Syn-Hershko <ita...@hibernatingrhinos.com>
wrote:
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> >>>> -Matt
entry for RavenDB. That is where the real work is needed. Other
databases like Mongo have their own entries, so I think Raven deserves
one as well.
The problem is that it looks like there WAS an entry at one point, but
it was deleted. The page should exist here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RavenDB
But there's a comment there:
02:52, 21 July 2010 Explicit (talk | contribs) deleted page RavenDB
(Expired PROD, concern was: Non-notable software (I coud find no
significant coverage in/by reliable sources to indicate notability.))
Perhaps two years ago, this may have been true, but I would certainly
think RavenDB has enough coverage today to be considered "notable" by
Wikipedia standards.
Is anyone here engaged enough with wikipedia to get the initial
article created and taken out of deletion status? I have only ever
made tiny edits to existing articles.
-Matt
On Jun 29, 5:20 am, Itamar Syn-Hershko <ita...@hibernatingrhinos.com>
wrote:
> The way Wikipedia works, is every edit gets inspected and argued about. And
> I mean EVERY edit.
>
> Unlike every other company, we have a great community here, and I don't see
> a reason for us to fall into this trap of arguing about self-promotion in
> Wikipedia with devoted Wikipedians. We would be more than happy to work
> with anyone from the community who would like to do this and inspect the
> content / suggest improvements.
>
> I may be wrong, but we ought to at least try do it this way first.
>
> Free shirts to volunteers :)
>
> I mean EVERY edit.
>
> Unlike every other company, we have a great community here, and I don't see
> a reason for us to fall into this trap of arguing about self-promotion in
> Wikipedia with devoted Wikipedians. We would be more than happy to work
> with anyone from the community who would like to do this and inspect the
> content / suggest improvements.
>
> I may be wrong, but we ought to at least try do it this way first.
>
> Free shirts to volunteers :)
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Wyatt Barnett <wyatt.barn...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > Not so much -- most companies in the US post their own page to at least
> > get the ball rolling and the flag planted. Who is more qualified to talk
> > about you than you?
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> > On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:21:56 AM UTC-4, Oren Eini wrote:
>
> >> And we would like that to come from outside the company. Self wikipeding
> >> is... strange.
>
> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Fitzchak Yitzchaki <
> >> fitzchak@hibernatingrhinos.**com <fitzc...@hibernatingrhinos.com>> wrote:
>
> >>> I updated this list to include RavenDB:
> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**List_of_AGPL_web_applications<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AGPL_web_applications>
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> > Not so much -- most companies in the US post their own page to at least
> > get the ball rolling and the flag planted. Who is more qualified to talk
> > about you than you?
>
> > On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:21:56 AM UTC-4, Oren Eini wrote:
>
> >> And we would like that to come from outside the company. Self wikipeding
> >> is... strange.
>
> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Fitzchak Yitzchaki <
> >> fitzchak@hibernatingrhinos.**com <fitzc...@hibernatingrhinos.com>> wrote:
>
> >>> I updated this list to include RavenDB:
> >>> Obviously, we need more coverage in Wikipedia than that... :)
>
> >>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:07:44 AM UTC+3, Matt Johnson wrote:
>
> >>>> I was just noticing that the Wikipedia entry on NoSQL databases is
> >>>> lacking any reference to RavenDB. Also, much of the content is not
> >>>> accurate with respect to RavenDB (ACID, indexing, etc).
>
> >>>> I don't feel particularly qualified to update the Wikipedia entry.
> >>>> Anyone else care to take a stab at it?
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**N**oSQL_(concept)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoSQL_(concept)>
>
> >>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:07:44 AM UTC+3, Matt Johnson wrote:
>
> >>>> I was just noticing that the Wikipedia entry on NoSQL databases is
> >>>> lacking any reference to RavenDB. Also, much of the content is not
> >>>> accurate with respect to RavenDB (ACID, indexing, etc).
>
> >>>> I don't feel particularly qualified to update the Wikipedia entry.
> >>>> Anyone else care to take a stab at it?
>
> >>>> -Matt
Kaveh Shahbazian
Jun 30, 2012, 5:15:35 AM6/30/12
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Still no main entry on RavenDB (See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RavenDB). That's annoying for newcomers and for such a great software. Please, please somebody write one! Thanks everybody!
Itamar Syn-Hershko
Jun 30, 2012, 2:02:48 PM6/30/12
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You simply login and create a new page under that
I believe we can manage without restoring the old deletion, as long as the first edit has enough valid content
Hermano Cabral
Jun 30, 2012, 2:14:39 PM6/30/12
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I cannot understand why HR staff has not created an article yet. Wikipedia is supposed to be about knowledge, just create the article and be done with it.
Sent from my iPhone
Fitzchak Yitzchaki
Jul 1, 2012, 9:28:24 AM7/1/12
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I created a first draft for RavenDB article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/RavenDB
Ryan Heath
Dec 11, 2012, 4:29:55 AM12/11/12
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I've noticed the ravendb article has been removed again <sigh>...
// Ryan
// Ryan
Matt Johnson
Dec 20, 2012, 10:17:51 PM12/20/12
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Is anyone here an experienced Wikipedia contributor? (not I)
Someone really needs to get to the bottom of this. PLEASE.
On Dec 11, 2:29 am, Ryan Heath <ryan.q.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've noticed the ravendb article has been removed again <sigh>...
>
> // Ryan
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> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Fitzchak Yitzchaki
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> <fitzc...@hibernatingrhinos.com> wrote:
> > I created a first draft for RavenDB article:
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Rav...
> >>> Is anyone here engaged enough withwikipediato get the initial
Someone really needs to get to the bottom of this. PLEASE.
On Dec 11, 2:29 am, Ryan Heath <ryan.q.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've noticed the ravendb article has been removed again <sigh>...
>
> // Ryan
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> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Fitzchak Yitzchaki
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> <fitzc...@hibernatingrhinos.com> wrote:
> > I created a first draft for RavenDB article:
> >>> article created and taken out of deletion status? I have only ever
> >>> made tiny edits to existing articles.
>
> >>> -Matt
>
> >>> On Jun 29, 5:20 am, Itamar Syn-Hershko <ita...@hibernatingrhinos.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > The wayWikipediaworks, is every edit gets inspected and argued about.
> >>> made tiny edits to existing articles.
>
> >>> -Matt
>
> >>> On Jun 29, 5:20 am, Itamar Syn-Hershko <ita...@hibernatingrhinos.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > And
> >>> > I mean EVERY edit.
>
> >>> > Unlike every other company, we have a great community here, and I don't
> >>> > see
> >>> > a reason for us to fall into this trap of arguing about self-promotion
> >>> > in
> >>> >Wikipediawith devoted Wikipedians. We would be more than happy to work
> >>> > I mean EVERY edit.
>
> >>> > Unlike every other company, we have a great community here, and I don't
> >>> > see
> >>> > a reason for us to fall into this trap of arguing about self-promotion
> >>> > in
> >>> > with anyone from the community who would like to do this and inspect
> >>> > the
> >>> > content / suggest improvements.
>
> >>> > I may be wrong, but we ought to at least try do it this way first.
>
> >>> > Free shirts to volunteers :)
>
> >>> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Wyatt Barnett
> >>> > <wyatt.barn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> > > Not so much -- most companies in the US post their own page to at
> >>> > > least
> >>> > > get the ball rolling and the flag planted. Who is more qualified to
> >>> > > talk
> >>> > > about you than you?
>
> >>> > > On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:21:56 AM UTC-4, Oren Eini wrote:
>
> >>> > >> And we would like that to come from outside the company. Self
> >>> > >> wikipeding
> >>> > >> is... strange.
>
> >>> > >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Fitzchak Yitzchaki <
> >>> > >> fitzchak@hibernatingrhinos.**com <fitzc...@hibernatingrhinos.com>>
> >>> > >> wrote:
>
> >>> > >>> I updated this list to include RavenDB:
>
> >>> > >>> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**List_of_AGPL_web_applications<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AGPL_web_applications>
> >>> > >>> Obviously, we need more coverage inWikipediathan that... :)
> >>> > the
> >>> > content / suggest improvements.
>
> >>> > I may be wrong, but we ought to at least try do it this way first.
>
> >>> > Free shirts to volunteers :)
>
> >>> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Wyatt Barnett
> >>> > <wyatt.barn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> > > Not so much -- most companies in the US post their own page to at
> >>> > > least
> >>> > > get the ball rolling and the flag planted. Who is more qualified to
> >>> > > talk
> >>> > > about you than you?
>
> >>> > > On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:21:56 AM UTC-4, Oren Eini wrote:
>
> >>> > >> And we would like that to come from outside the company. Self
> >>> > >> wikipeding
> >>> > >> is... strange.
>
> >>> > >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Fitzchak Yitzchaki <
> >>> > >> fitzchak@hibernatingrhinos.**com <fitzc...@hibernatingrhinos.com>>
> >>> > >> wrote:
>
> >>> > >>> I updated this list to include RavenDB:
>
> >>> > >>> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**List_of_AGPL_web_applications<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AGPL_web_applications>
>
> >>> > >>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:07:44 AM UTC+3, Matt Johnson wrote:
>
> >>> > >>>> I was just noticing that theWikipediaentry on NoSQL databases is
> >>> > >>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:07:44 AM UTC+3, Matt Johnson wrote:
>
Ryan Heath
Dec 21, 2012, 3:31:19 AM12/21/12
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It's weird http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/RavenDB
is declined,
while it looks very much alike the mongo entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MongoDB ...
What are we missing here?
// Ryan
is declined,
while it looks very much alike the mongo entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MongoDB ...
What are we missing here?
// Ryan
Yaakov Ellis
Dec 21, 2012, 4:59:47 AM12/21/12
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Maybe:
- Too much on licensing (can be seen as being more of an advertisement)
- More on enterprise usage in big companies (ie: MSNBC, etc) - prove the notability of the platform (something that is much easier to do with MongoDB)
- Main Features reads like an ad. Get rid of things like: "Get Running in 5 Minutes", "It Just Works", "Bundles - Many More", "Fast queries". Those sound like ad slogans, not features (even though you can make an argument that they are features). Features section for Mongo seems to have much less hype (and they dont have every single feature listed there). It shouldnt look like a copy/paste from a marketing site (currently that is the way it looks at first glance)
- Include info about different use cases and libraries included
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