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Jan Peter Dembinski  
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 11:10 am
From: Jan Peter Dembinski <jp...@sover.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:10:19 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 11:10 am
Subject: Another Garmin problem

This post is only for Garmin gurus (or for anyone who wants to read about
another infuriating Garmin glitch).  My Edge 705 is stuck on "Reading" my
saved routes.  It's stuck even if I let it keep "Reading" for days.  I had
only 1 route on the device but it was long, Lap of the Lake (Ontario),
which evidently multiplied itself as behind the "Reading" box I can see
multiple start locations.  I've erased everything saved on the device via
BaseCamp but to no avail; similarly I've erased whatever I can (according
to Garmin) by pressing the power button and mode buttons on the device
simultaneously on start up.  In the past I've found the only way I can
erase routes on the device is clicking on them and hitting erase when the
option comes up (it doesn't always seem to come up).  But if the device is
stuck on "Reading" then I can never click on them to erase them.  The
device isn't totally useless but it takes a lot longer to start up, and it
is totally useless for creating and following saved routes.


 
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Jim House - Custom Computer Solutions  
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 11:39 am
From: "Jim House - Custom Computer Solutions" <jho...@ccsol.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:39:56 -0400
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 11:39 am
Subject: RE: [Randon] Another Garmin problem

Do you have an extra card inside the device.  Pull the card and try again.

On my 705 I would place a backup copy of each route just in case the flash
memory in the device screwed up - I had a backup on the bike with me and
could point to the card version.

In windows when you connect the device you have access to two new attached
drives.
Look using windows at the content of each new drive - the corrupt data could
be on the card not with the flash drive inside the 705.

Good luck,

Jim House

Maumee, OH

From: randon@googlegroups.com [mailto:randon@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jan Peter Dembinski
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:10 AM
To: randon@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Randon] Another Garmin problem

This post is only for Garmin gurus (or for anyone who wants to read about
another infuriating Garmin glitch).  My Edge 705 is stuck on "Reading" my
saved routes.  It's stuck even if I let it keep "Reading" for days.  I had
only 1 route on the device but it was long, Lap of the Lake (Ontario), which
evidently multiplied itself as behind the "Reading" box I can see multiple
start locations.  I've erased everything saved on the device via BaseCamp
but to no avail; similarly I've erased whatever I can (according to Garmin)
by pressing the power button and mode buttons on the device simultaneously
on start up.  In the past I've found the only way I can erase routes on the
device is clicking on them and hitting erase when the option comes up (it
doesn't always seem to come up).  But if the device is stuck on "Reading"
then I can never click on them to erase them.  The device isn't totally
useless but it takes a lot longer to start up, and it is totally useless for
creating and following saved routes.

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Scott Ebbing  
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 More options Aug 9 2012, 4:28 pm
From: "Scott Ebbing" <deca2...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:28:26 -0400
Local: Thurs, Aug 9 2012 4:28 pm
Subject: RE: [Randon] Another Garmin problem

I actually do the reverse of Jim and put my routes on the card only. Usually
I will go to a website, download the route to my computer and copy it over
to where it needs to be. I have run into trouble in the past where I could
not delete the routes off my card. You might want to hook your 705 to a
Windows computer and do a search for Temp.GPX. Delete that and those "stuck"
routes should go away. That is what fixed my problem. Here is a link to a
posting that might help you as well.
https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?3434-How-do-you-Delete-rides...
-705

Best of luck!

Scott

From: randon@googlegroups.com [mailto:randon@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jim House - Custom Computer Solutions
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:40
To: 'Jan Peter Dembinski'; randon@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Randon] Another Garmin problem

Do you have an extra card inside the device.  Pull the card and try again.

On my 705 I would place a backup copy of each route just in case the flash
memory in the device screwed up - I had a backup on the bike with me and
could point to the card version.

In windows when you connect the device you have access to two new attached
drives.
Look using windows at the content of each new drive - the corrupt data could
be on the card not with the flash drive inside the 705.

Good luck,

Jim House

Maumee, OH

From: randon@googlegroups.com [mailto:randon@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jan Peter Dembinski
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:10 AM
To: randon@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Randon] Another Garmin problem

This post is only for Garmin gurus (or for anyone who wants to read about
another infuriating Garmin glitch).  My Edge 705 is stuck on "Reading" my
saved routes.  It's stuck even if I let it keep "Reading" for days.  I had
only 1 route on the device but it was long, Lap of the Lake (Ontario), which
evidently multiplied itself as behind the "Reading" box I can see multiple
start locations.  I've erased everything saved on the device via BaseCamp
but to no avail; similarly I've erased whatever I can (according to Garmin)
by pressing the power button and mode buttons on the device simultaneously
on start up.  In the past I've found the only way I can erase routes on the
device is clicking on them and hitting erase when the option comes up (it
doesn't always seem to come up).  But if the device is stuck on "Reading"
then I can never click on them to erase them.  The device isn't totally
useless but it takes a lot longer to start up, and it is totally useless for
creating and following saved routes.

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Jan Peter Dembinski  
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 More options Aug 12 2012, 1:03 pm
From: Jan Peter Dembinski <jp...@sover.net>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:03:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Aug 12 2012 1:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Randon] Another Garmin problem

Scott and Jim,

Thanks for your help!  Following your advice I was able to delete the
temporary saved files in the GPX folder without deleting downloaded North
American Maps.  (One can do this on a Mac as well.)  The device and the
card within it are now working well.  Afterwards I searched the Garmin site
and did find specified instructions under their Support tab and then
"Request a Repair" then the "Device Performance or Operation" option, then
"Locks up or Freezes" then after describing the problem in more detail
clicking on "How do I remove all user generated files from my mass storage
device?"  rather than "How do I perform a master reset" (which I think I
did originally as it purports to "erase your user data from the device" --
but it left out informing me about card files).  

As I rethink this snafu, the problem began by creating the LOL course on
the device through BaseCamp, then mistakenly deleting a waypoint and then
b/c of confusion inadvertently deleting the course and then starting over
with the remaining waypoints -- and not going into the card files and
erasing those (I think that's what cause the bottleneck on the device but
I'm not sure). The interaction between BaseCamp and the device is not
bulletproof.  The length of the LOL course I do not think was an issue b/c
I was able to download all of PBP on it last year without a hitch.

Jan


 
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Jim House - Custom Computer Solutions  
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 More options Aug 13 2012, 8:27 am
From: "Jim House - Custom Computer Solutions" <jho...@ccsol.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:27:15 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 13 2012 8:27 am
Subject: RE: [Randon] Another Garmin problem

Jan,

I am glad this resolved your issue.

I know you can use any of the Garmin Front End applications to upload your
maps and routes.  
It was my understanding that Base Camp was driven towards backpacking/off
road riding and to be used with the Garmin TOPO map sets.  
And that Map Source was for use with the Garmin road base map sets.  
I do not know if the two front ends transfer to your device in different
methods but this could have been part of your original issue.

I only purchase the Garmin road maps in the DVD format - in that way you can
download all maps to your PC and do your routing on the PC and transfer to
your Garmin devices.

In the past you could transfer one map set to up to three Garmin devices - I
think this has changed.

My older versions of USA and Europe maps let me download to many Garmin
Devices - but the newest will only let me pick one device to mate the map
set to that ONE selected device.

Have you tried Map Source?

I also use another Garmin front end - Training Center to store and save all
trips taken with my Garmin Edge 705 (used on the bike).  I have never used
the upload function from this application to transfer anything back to the
Edge.

I have only used Base Camp with by back country Garmin Etrex Vista C - and
the Garmin topo base maps for the USA and the three National Parks topo map
sets that I have purchased for back country access.

I have loaded some of the topo map sets to the Edge just to mess around but
never used the topo map set for a rondo event.

Topo maps can be loaded to any device without mating the map set to a
specific device.

Has anyone out there have knowledge between these front ends and if they use
different methods to upload to the Garmin devices?

Thanks,

Jim House

Maumee, OH

From: randon@googlegroups.com [mailto:randon@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jan Peter Dembinski
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 1:04 PM
To: randon@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'Jan Peter Dembinski'
Subject: Re: [Randon] Another Garmin problem

Scott and Jim,

Thanks for your help!  Following your advice I was able to delete the
temporary saved files in the GPX folder without deleting downloaded North
American Maps.  (One can do this on a Mac as well.)  The device and the card
within it are now working well.  Afterwards I searched the Garmin site and
did find specified instructions under their Support tab and then "Request a
Repair" then the "Device Performance or Operation" option, then "Locks up or
Freezes" then after describing the problem in more detail clicking on "How
do I remove all user generated files from my mass storage device?"  rather
than "How do I perform a master reset" (which I think I did originally as it
purports to "erase your user data from the device" -- but it left out
informing me about card files).  

As I rethink this snafu, the problem began by creating the LOL course on the
device through BaseCamp, then mistakenly deleting a waypoint and then b/c of
confusion inadvertently deleting the course and then starting over with the
remaining waypoints -- and not going into the card files and erasing those
(I think that's what cause the bottleneck on the device but I'm not sure).
The interaction between BaseCamp and the device is not bulletproof.  The
length of the LOL course I do not think was an issue b/c I was able to
download all of PBP on it last year without a hitch.

Jan

On Thursday, August 9, 2012 4:28:26 PM UTC-4, deca2499 wrote:

I actually do the reverse of Jim and put my routes on the card only. Usually
I will go to a website, download the route to my computer and copy it over
to where it needs to be. I have run into trouble in the past where I could
not delete the routes off my card. You might want to hook your 705 to a
Windows computer and do a search for Temp.GPX. Delete that and those "stuck"
routes should go away. That is what fixed my problem. Here is a link to a
posting that might help you as well.
https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?3434-How-do-you-Delete-rides...
-705

Best of luck!

Scott

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jp...@sover.net  
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 More options Aug 13 2012, 12:11 pm
From: jp...@sover.net
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:11:41 -0400 (EDT)
Local: Mon, Aug 13 2012 12:11 pm
Subject: RE: [Randon] Another Garmin problem
Hi Jim,

As far as I can tell "MapSource" is now BaseCamp for Macs.  A good
thread/discussion I read on this just now (b/c you got me curious about
Map Source) is here:
https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?16821-Map-Source-for-Mac

Thanks again for the help.  If I have to buy a new map, I'll definitely
take a closer look at the DVD option.

Jan


 
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