How do I use ice socks without ... "issues"
7 views
Skip to first unread message
NickBull
Jul 15, 2008, 9:08:44 AM7/15/08
to randon
OK, I've tried ice socks on some hot brevets, and they are fabulous,
except that I had to stop using them.
They drip down my chest and back, which feels wonderful, and then
continue on into my shorts and into my shoes, where they cause
"issues" on long rides. Not as bad as having everything wet from days
of rain ala PBP, but unpleasant enough that I swore off ice socks
after enduring several hours of painful riding.
There must be some simple way of avoiding this. Do people put their
ice socks in a plastic bag? Slather everything in lantiseptic?
except that I had to stop using them.
They drip down my chest and back, which feels wonderful, and then
continue on into my shorts and into my shoes, where they cause
"issues" on long rides. Not as bad as having everything wet from days
of rain ala PBP, but unpleasant enough that I swore off ice socks
after enduring several hours of painful riding.
There must be some simple way of avoiding this. Do people put their
ice socks in a plastic bag? Slather everything in lantiseptic?
DrCodfish
Jul 15, 2008, 11:19:53 AM7/15/08
to randon
Nick said of ice socks:
use this bizarre tool for fear of the concerns you expressed. But it
was so hot there was really no choice. Being from the PNW I recall as
we drove down to Davis, the farther we got thr more the weather was on
the news. When we got to Davis and got in the motrel all the TV news
was about the heat wave. I was quaking in my sandals. If the locals
thought it was hot enough to go to the local "cooling center" what was
in store for the PNW bannana slug on a bike?
I've ridden a few miles in wet shorts and have suffered chafing as a
result. I just figured this problem would also occur with ice socks.
Fortunately on the GRR this didn't happen, but I remember temps in the
teens on that event so maybe you just need to look for hotter rides,
that way your excess moisture might evaporate befoe it gets south of
the Mason/Dickson line.
Yr Pal Dr Codfish
"They drip down my chest and back, which feels wonderful, and then
continue on into my shorts and into my shoes, where they cause
"issues"
Good question Nick. On Gold Rush I was pretty much planning NOT to
continue on into my shorts and into my shoes, where they cause
"issues"
use this bizarre tool for fear of the concerns you expressed. But it
was so hot there was really no choice. Being from the PNW I recall as
we drove down to Davis, the farther we got thr more the weather was on
the news. When we got to Davis and got in the motrel all the TV news
was about the heat wave. I was quaking in my sandals. If the locals
thought it was hot enough to go to the local "cooling center" what was
in store for the PNW bannana slug on a bike?
I've ridden a few miles in wet shorts and have suffered chafing as a
result. I just figured this problem would also occur with ice socks.
Fortunately on the GRR this didn't happen, but I remember temps in the
teens on that event so maybe you just need to look for hotter rides,
that way your excess moisture might evaporate befoe it gets south of
the Mason/Dickson line.
Yr Pal Dr Codfish
Bill Bryant
Jul 15, 2008, 11:32:15 AM7/15/08
to DrCodfish, randon
Yes, I think out here in the West, in the land of very low humidity on hot
days, most of the ice water evaporates as it goes down your back. In the
East, however, often with high humidity, this might not take place? But
Nick's question is useful, one certainly doesn't want excess water running
that far "south". I guess use lots of Laniseptic?
days, most of the ice water evaporates as it goes down your back. In the
East, however, often with high humidity, this might not take place? But
Nick's question is useful, one certainly doesn't want excess water running
that far "south". I guess use lots of Laniseptic?
High and dry in CA,
Bill Bryant
NickBull
Jul 15, 2008, 12:18:50 PM7/15/08
to randon
Thanks. Yup, that's a good point about the humidity. The days when
I've tried ice socks have been between 95F and 105F, but with humidity
probably about as high as it can go without condensing. When you're
climbing in that heat and humidity, the sweat just pours off you.
When I think about the hardy randonneurs who finished (or even rode
very much of) the Shenandoah 1200, ... well, they have my deepest
respect. Could I have done it? Don't know. I've only seen one ride
report -- maybe they're all still too wiped out :-)
(I know the Cascade 1200 was also very hot ... so hat's off to all of
you, as well. It's just easier for me to imagine the Shenandoah
Valley having ridden two 600's in it, with some very high
temperatures ...)
On Jul 15, 11:32 am, Bill Bryant <bill_bry...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> Yes, I think out here in the West, in the land of very low humidity on hot
> days, most of the ice water evaporates as it goes down your back. In the
> East, however, often with high humidity, this might not take place? But
> Nick's question is useful, one certainly doesn't want excess water running
> that far "south". I guess use lots of Laniseptic?
>
> High and dry in CA,
> Bill Bryant
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've tried ice socks have been between 95F and 105F, but with humidity
probably about as high as it can go without condensing. When you're
climbing in that heat and humidity, the sweat just pours off you.
When I think about the hardy randonneurs who finished (or even rode
very much of) the Shenandoah 1200, ... well, they have my deepest
respect. Could I have done it? Don't know. I've only seen one ride
report -- maybe they're all still too wiped out :-)
(I know the Cascade 1200 was also very hot ... so hat's off to all of
you, as well. It's just easier for me to imagine the Shenandoah
Valley having ridden two 600's in it, with some very high
temperatures ...)
On Jul 15, 11:32 am, Bill Bryant <bill_bry...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> Yes, I think out here in the West, in the land of very low humidity on hot
> days, most of the ice water evaporates as it goes down your back. In the
> East, however, often with high humidity, this might not take place? But
> Nick's question is useful, one certainly doesn't want excess water running
> that far "south". I guess use lots of Laniseptic?
>
> High and dry in CA,
> Bill Bryant
>
> On 7/15/08 8:19 AM, "DrCodfish" <pjinoakvi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nick said of ice socks:
> > "They drip down my chest and back, which feels wonderful, and then
> > continue on into my shorts and into my shoes, where they cause
> > "issues"
>
> > Good question Nick. On Gold Rush I was pretty much planning NOT to
> > use this bizarre tool for fear of the concerns you expressed. But it
> > was so hot there was really no choice. Being from the PNW I recall as
> > we drove down to Davis, the farther we got thr more the weather was on
> > the news. When we got to Davis and got in the motrel all the TV news
> > was about the heat wave. I was quaking in my sandals. If the locals
> > thought it was hot enough to go to the local "cooling center" what was
> > in store for the PNW bannana slug on a bike?
>
> > I've ridden a few miles in wet shorts and have suffered chafing as a
> > result. I just figured this problem would also occur with ice socks.
> > Fortunately on the GRR this didn't happen, but I remember temps in the
> > teens on that event so maybe you just need to look for hotter rides,
> > that way your excess moisture might evaporate befoe it gets south of
> > the Mason/Dickson line.
>
> > Yr Pal Dr Codfish- Hide quoted text -
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nick said of ice socks:
> > "They drip down my chest and back, which feels wonderful, and then
> > continue on into my shorts and into my shoes, where they cause
> > "issues"
>
> > Good question Nick. On Gold Rush I was pretty much planning NOT to
> > use this bizarre tool for fear of the concerns you expressed. But it
> > was so hot there was really no choice. Being from the PNW I recall as
> > we drove down to Davis, the farther we got thr more the weather was on
> > the news. When we got to Davis and got in the motrel all the TV news
> > was about the heat wave. I was quaking in my sandals. If the locals
> > thought it was hot enough to go to the local "cooling center" what was
> > in store for the PNW bannana slug on a bike?
>
> > I've ridden a few miles in wet shorts and have suffered chafing as a
> > result. I just figured this problem would also occur with ice socks.
> > Fortunately on the GRR this didn't happen, but I remember temps in the
> > teens on that event so maybe you just need to look for hotter rides,
> > that way your excess moisture might evaporate befoe it gets south of
> > the Mason/Dickson line.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
John Lee Ellis
Jul 15, 2008, 4:55:59 PM7/15/08
to randon
I had virtually no "meltage" go down my back. It ran down my upper
chest and dripped onto legs and cyclocomputer. Maybe due to a less
upright riding position?
-john lee
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
chest and dripped onto legs and cyclocomputer. Maybe due to a less
upright riding position?
-john lee
William Olsen
Jul 15, 2008, 9:18:44 PM7/15/08
to NickBull, randon
> There must be some simple way of avoiding this. ... Slather everything in lantiseptic?
Nick - You hit the nail on the head!!!!
Willie
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:08:44 -0700
> Subject: [Randon] How do I use ice socks without ... "issues"
> From: nick.bi...@gmail.com
> To: ran...@googlegroups.com
William Olsen
Jul 15, 2008, 9:26:02 PM7/15/08
to NickBull, randon
Having ridden bot, it is the humidity, not the heat...but still both events were milder than the Rochester, MN 1000K I rode in 2006 (It actually cooled sown to 94 deg. F at 2AM. All -in-all, I'd prefer the milder weather we had on 2007's PBP.
Willie
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:18:50 -0700
> Subject: [Randon] Re: How do I use ice socks without ... "issues"
> From: nick.bi...@gmail.com
> To: ran...@googlegroups.com
>
>
Willie
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:18:50 -0700
> Subject: [Randon] Re: How do I use ice socks without ... "issues"
> From: nick.bi...@gmail.com
> To: ran...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Thanks. Yup, that's a good point about the humidity. The days when
> I've tried ice socks have been between 95F and 105F, but with humidity
> probably about as high as it can go without condensing. When you're
> climbing in that heat and humidity, the sweat just pours off you.
> When I think about the hardy randonneurs who finished (or even rode
> very much of) the Shenandoah 1200, ... well, they have my deepest
> respect. Could I have done it? Don't know. I've only seen one ride
> report -- maybe they're all still too wiped out :-)
>
> (I know the Cascade 1200 was also very hot ... so hat's off to all of
> you, as well. It's just easier for me to imagine the Shenandoah
> Valley having ridden two 600's in it, with some very high
> temperatures ...)
>
> I've tried ice socks have been between 95F and 105F, but with humidity
> probably about as high as it can go without condensing. When you're
> climbing in that heat and humidity, the sweat just pours off you.
> When I think about the hardy randonneurs who finished (or even rode
> very much of) the Shenandoah 1200, ... well, they have my deepest
> respect. Could I have done it? Don't know. I've only seen one ride
> report -- maybe they're all still too wiped out :-)
>
> (I know the Cascade 1200 was also very hot ... so hat's off to all of
> you, as well. It's just easier for me to imagine the Shenandoah
> Valley having ridden two 600's in it, with some very high
> temperatures ...)
>
It’s a talkathon – but it’s not just talk. Check out the i’m Talkathon.
Mike Biswell
Jul 15, 2008, 9:27:19 PM7/15/08
to Randon Google Group
Attempting to discover just what “Lantiseptic” is, immediately found a photo of an elderly woman, apparently happy as heck to have beaten back her bed and wheelchair sores.
Well, at least it’s not a product for goats or horses…Rando!
Regards!
Mike
Bill Taylor
Jul 16, 2008, 2:24:39 AM7/16/08
to Mike Biswell, Randon Google Group
At 6:27 PM -0700 15/7/08, Mike Biswell wrote:
>
>Attempting to discover just what ³Lantiseptic²
>is, immediately found a photo of an elderly
>woman, apparently happy as heck to have beaten
>back her bed and wheelchair sores.
>
>Well, at least it¹s not a product for goats or horsesŠRando!>
>Attempting to discover just what ³Lantiseptic²
>is, immediately found a photo of an elderly
>woman, apparently happy as heck to have beaten
>back her bed and wheelchair sores.
>
>
>Regards!
>Mike
>
Gotta confess, I've never heard of 'Lantiseptic'?
Although, and having done a simple Google search
on the word, I was brought pretty directly to
their site; to conclude the same as Mike has,
above.
Now I'm really curious. Can anyone tell me what
this difference is between Lantiseptic and
Penaten Cream?
I'm guessing that they're pretty much, the same
thing, or at least, used to treat similar
problems?
My reason for asking, is that I picked up some
Penaten Cream at the local Costco, more or less
on an impulse, speculating that this Penaten
Cream can be used to treat saddle sore?
I gotta confess, I've yet to really develop a
good case of saddle sores, but, that doesn't mean
I'm immune to them, just that I've yet to ride
far enough ... ;-)
Still a novice Rando rider ...
Bill Taylor
Joseph Maurer
Jul 16, 2008, 2:59:55 AM7/16/08
to Bill Taylor, randon
On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:24 PM, Bill Taylor wrote:
> Now I'm really curious. Can anyone tell me what this difference is
> between Lantiseptic and Penaten Cream?
I believe the main difference is that Lantiseptic also contains some
sort of alcohol to emphasize the "antiseptic" aspect of things.
Otherwise, yes, Penaten Cream is good enough, too (and has always
been, for all of my four - by now adult - babies :-)
--(jm)
Bill Taylor
Jul 16, 2008, 3:44:23 AM7/16/08
to Joseph Maurer, randon
Hi Joseph,
Many thanks for this clarification. Now I wont
have to stay up at night, contemplating this
issue ... ;-)
Bill
Bill Bryant
Jul 16, 2008, 8:10:33 AM7/16/08
to randon
As always, RUSA's "American Randonneur" is a fine resource for all things
randonneuring. From the archives...
http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/09-01-14.html
And
http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/08-04-10.html
Bill Bryant
randonneuring. From the archives...
http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/09-01-14.html
And
http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/08-04-10.html
Bill Bryant
albert meerscheidt
Jul 16, 2008, 10:01:01 AM7/16/08
to Bill Bryant, randon
Beware of alcohol in any of these products, its a real 'eye opener' if you have saddle sores!!!
Albert
Albert
NickBull
Jul 16, 2008, 11:32:21 AM7/16/08
to randon
I couldn't find a list of ingredients for Lantiseptic (beyond that it
has 50% lanolin plus beeswax and petrolatum) but I'd be really
surprised if it has any alcohol in it. I've been using it for a
couple of years, sometimes on saddle sores, and it has never felt like
anything other than a soothing, cool (but sticky) feeling going on.
There is some concern that it might degrade lycra, since it has
petrolatum. I did have a pair of shorts that became surprisingly
transparent, but I don't think that owed to the Lantiseptic. None of
my other shorts seem to be any the worse for wear.
Mike Biswell commented that at least this isn't a product for treating
goats or horses (like Bag Balm). But it turns out that it _is_ a
"human-use" variation on a product for treating horses and cows! From
the company history on the www.lantiseptic.com website:
"... During the 1980s, Summit focused on line extensions for the
Corona and Lexol brands, including Corona Hoof Dressing, Corona
Shampoo Concentrate, Corona Udder Butter, Lexol-pH Leather Cleaner and
Lexol-nf Non-Greasy Neatsfoot Formula. The company also introduced
Vinylex Protectant for vinyl, rubber and plastic under the Lexol
brand.
Later in the decade, Summit introduced Lantiseptic Skin Protectant, a
human-use version of Corona Ointment for the nursing home market. Two
line extensions for Lantiseptic were added in 1993: Lantiseptic
Therapeutic Cream and Lantiseptic All Body Wash."
Nick
On Jul 16, 10:01 am, "albert meerscheidt"
> albert.meersche...@gmail.com
> cbcri...@cascade.org
> webmas...@seattlerando.org- Hide quoted text -
has 50% lanolin plus beeswax and petrolatum) but I'd be really
surprised if it has any alcohol in it. I've been using it for a
couple of years, sometimes on saddle sores, and it has never felt like
anything other than a soothing, cool (but sticky) feeling going on.
There is some concern that it might degrade lycra, since it has
petrolatum. I did have a pair of shorts that became surprisingly
transparent, but I don't think that owed to the Lantiseptic. None of
my other shorts seem to be any the worse for wear.
Mike Biswell commented that at least this isn't a product for treating
goats or horses (like Bag Balm). But it turns out that it _is_ a
"human-use" variation on a product for treating horses and cows! From
the company history on the www.lantiseptic.com website:
"... During the 1980s, Summit focused on line extensions for the
Corona and Lexol brands, including Corona Hoof Dressing, Corona
Shampoo Concentrate, Corona Udder Butter, Lexol-pH Leather Cleaner and
Lexol-nf Non-Greasy Neatsfoot Formula. The company also introduced
Vinylex Protectant for vinyl, rubber and plastic under the Lexol
brand.
Later in the decade, Summit introduced Lantiseptic Skin Protectant, a
human-use version of Corona Ointment for the nursing home market. Two
line extensions for Lantiseptic were added in 1993: Lantiseptic
Therapeutic Cream and Lantiseptic All Body Wash."
Nick
On Jul 16, 10:01 am, "albert meerscheidt"
<albert.meersche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Beware of alcohol in any of these products, its a real 'eye opener' if you
> have saddle sores!!!
>
> Albert
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Bill Bryant <bill_bry...@prodigy.net>
> Beware of alcohol in any of these products, its a real 'eye opener' if you
> have saddle sores!!!
>
> Albert
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > As always, RUSA's "American Randonneur" is a fine resource for all things
> > randonneuring. From the archives...
>
> >http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/09-01-14.html
>
> > And
>
> >http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/08-04-10.html
>
> > Bill Bryant
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > As always, RUSA's "American Randonneur" is a fine resource for all things
> > randonneuring. From the archives...
>
> >http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/09-01-14.html
>
> > And
>
> >http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/08-04-10.html
>
> > Bill Bryant
>
> cbcri...@cascade.org
> webmas...@seattlerando.org- Hide quoted text -
Jennifer Chang
Jul 16, 2008, 4:57:30 PM7/16/08
to velo...@mac.com, peda...@bellnet.ca, ran...@googlegroups.com
> Now I'm really curious. Can anyone tell me what this difference is
> between Lantiseptic and Penaten Cream?
I know that the active ingredient in Penaten Cream and other diaper rash creams is the Zinc Oxide. At 18%, Penaten seems to have more Zinc Oxide than Boudreaux's or Johnson & Johnson's.
Does Laniseptic also contain Zinc Oxide? I didn't see the full ingredient's list, so I'm wondering if Laniseptic is mostly for preventative use or can be used for healing purposes, as well.
I've also heard about using Neosporin for saddle sores from two randonneurs recently. Can someone clarify its usage, versus other products? Also, which Neosporin product would you use?
-- Joseph Maurer <velo...@mac.com> wrote:
On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:24 PM, Bill Taylor wrote:
> Now I'm really curious. Can anyone tell me what this difference is
> between Lantiseptic and Penaten Cream?
I believe the main difference is that Lantiseptic also contains some
sort of alcohol to emphasize the "antiseptic" aspect of things.
Otherwise, yes, Penaten Cream is good enough, too (and has always
been, for all of my four - by now adult - babies :-)
--(jm)
____________________________________________________________
Prices, software, charts & analysis. Click here to open your online FX trading account.
William Beck
Jul 17, 2008, 7:02:51 AM7/17/08
to randon
I tried using Lantiseptic for a while. I didn't really like the sticky
feel, and didn't think it prevented chafing as well as the more-
slippery Chamois Butt'r. (Although it did last longer than Chamois
Butt'r.) But the main problem I had was that it seemed to be eating
the surface of my Brooks B-17 saddle. The surface of the saddle
changed from smooth and hard to soft and tacky. Since I stopped using
Lantiseptic and switched back to Chamois Butt'r, the surface has
gradually gotten smooth again. I've never heard anyone else mention
this, so maybe it was something unique about my saddle, but it is
worth watching out for if you try using Lantiseptic with a leather
saddle.
Bill
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
feel, and didn't think it prevented chafing as well as the more-
slippery Chamois Butt'r. (Although it did last longer than Chamois
Butt'r.) But the main problem I had was that it seemed to be eating
the surface of my Brooks B-17 saddle. The surface of the saddle
changed from smooth and hard to soft and tacky. Since I stopped using
Lantiseptic and switched back to Chamois Butt'r, the surface has
gradually gotten smooth again. I've never heard anyone else mention
this, so maybe it was something unique about my saddle, but it is
worth watching out for if you try using Lantiseptic with a leather
saddle.
Bill
Glrf...@aol.com
Jul 17, 2008, 5:27:11 PM7/17/08
to bill_...@prodigy.net, ran...@googlegroups.com
In a message dated 7/16/2008 6:10:55 A.M. Central Standard Time,
bill_...@prodigy.net writes:
http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/09-01-14.html
And
http://www.rusa.org/newsletter/08-04-10.html
Bill, would you share with me what the numeric codes 09-01-14 and 08-04-10
mean?
Thank you,
Frank
Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today.
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages