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Nick Coyne  
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 More options Jun 15 2007, 1:12 am
From: Nick Coyne <nic.co...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:12:18 -0700
Local: Fri, Jun 15 2007 1:12 am
Subject: Change requests
So one of the requirements in our Fortune 500 proposal, is a detailed
plan for change management. I'm guessing that the client will be
wanting to sign off each and every modification or update.

Working with Agile and Rails, change management isn't something we
normally consider too carefully during initial development - features
are scheduled into iterations and the client is always aware of what
is in which iteration. And if they want to change their mind, that's
just fine - we shuffle things around. So would I simply have a form
that signed off for any changes to the content of an iteration? Does
anyone have an example of such a form?

thx
Nick


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Josh Knowles  
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 More options Jun 15 2007, 1:18 am
From: "Josh Knowles" <joshknow...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:18:00 -0700
Subject: Re: [rails-business] Change requests

On 6/14/07, Nick Coyne <nic.co...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So one of the requirements in our Fortune 500 proposal, is a detailed
> plan for change management. I'm guessing that the client will be
> wanting to sign off each and every modification or update.

If you are wanting to follow an Agile/Iterative approach then one thing I've
found to work well is having the client sign off on the stories going into
each iteration during the weekly iteration planning.

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Robby Russell  
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 More options Jun 18 2007, 2:26 am
From: Robby Russell <ro...@planetargon.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:26:25 -0700
Local: Mon, Jun 18 2007 2:26 am
Subject: Re: [rails-business] Change requests

On Jun 14, 2007, at 10:12 PM, Nick Coyne wrote:

> So one of the requirements in our Fortune 500 proposal, is a detailed
> plan for change management. I'm guessing that the client will be
> wanting to sign off each and every modification or update.

> Working with Agile and Rails, change management isn't something we
> normally consider too carefully during initial development - features
> are scheduled into iterations and the client is always aware of what
> is in which iteration. And if they want to change their mind, that's
> just fine - we shuffle things around. So would I simply have a form
> that signed off for any changes to the content of an iteration? Does
> anyone have an example of such a form?

Currently, when a client has a change request, it goes through a  
series of discussions about why something needs to be changed. How  
does it affect the rest of the existing application and where does it  
fit into the road map. We often say no to some change requests  
because they aren't supported with rationale for them, which our  
process requires for any features to exist. This is our way of  
working with our client to avoid the, "wouldn't it be cool if...?"  
requests and keep the system focused on it's primary objectives. When  
changes are necessary, they become new deliverables in an upcoming  
iteration.

If the change impacts other areas of the application, there should be  
some discussion/tracking of the dependencies it may affect. Not sure  
that a form that a client would fill out... would work with our  
process, aside from it being where a conversation begins. (example:  
client posts an idea in a basecamp message)

Anyhow, that's how we currently handle it at PA.

Cheers,

Robby

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Nick Coyne  
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 More options Jun 18 2007, 11:27 am
From: Nick Coyne <nic.co...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:27:18 -0700
Local: Mon, Jun 18 2007 11:27 am
Subject: Re: Change requests
Moving slightly away from my original question... how does everyone
handle bugs after application launch compared with during app
development. Is their always a bug/issue tracking system that you use
for these things? How does one integrate this with agile processes?

Nick

On Jun 18, 8:26 am, Robby Russell <r...@planetargon.com> wrote:


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Greg Newman  
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 More options Jun 18 2007, 1:06 pm
From: "Greg Newman" <gregoryjnew...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:06:44 -0400
Local: Mon, Jun 18 2007 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: [rails-business] Re: Change requests

We do a 90 day bug fix, after that it's per hour.

-Greg

On 6/18/07, Nick Coyne <nic.co...@gmail.com> wrote:


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