I know the website has some demonstrations of Radmind running on a
Linux platform. A few questions :

Does Linux Radmind work well as a server for Mac OSX Radmind clients?
Is anyone managing Linux machines currently with Radmind? Why did you
choose it over the other OSX packaging systems like apt and rpm?

Thanks!

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On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Rizwan Kassim wrote:

Yes. I managed about 800 Macs in UM's public labs for three years.  
All of the production Radmind servers were (and are still) running  
Linux (LFS). Radmind stores files on the server in a platform-
agnostic way. You can move loadsets from server to server without  
compatibility problems, regardless of server OS.

UM's directory, mail, web, login pool, authentication and file  
servers are all running on Linux, and all of the machines are managed  
with Radmind. Radmind was originally written to manage Solaris  
hardware here.

OS X only has one vendor-supported packaging system: Mac OS X  
packages (.pkg bundles). Are you asking about Linux system management?

andrew

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Yes, apologies.

Why choose radmind over rpm, apt and the like for managing Linux machines?

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On 16 Nov 2007, at 15:04, Rizwan Kassim wrote:

radmind is able to capture changes made by any packaging system plus  
any changes that the admin might make manually.  Also, radmind  
provides a tripwire which is tightly integrated with management.  See  
The Trouble with Tripwire:

        http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1398

radmind is not a package system, per se.  I mean, it includes more or  
less everything you'd need in a packaging system, and in fact several  
people (myself included) have considered using radmind as the  
underlying technology for a packaging system.  But the goal of  
radmind is distribution, verification, rollback, and layering.

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On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Rizwan Kassim wrote:

None of those packaging systems is good for production system  
management. They provide no persistent filesystem integrity checking,  
while Radmind is by design a tripwire. They rely heavily on local  
databases which can get corrupted; Radmind compares the files on disk  
to a list of files that should be installed, retrieving the list from  
the Radmind server on demand. They have no concept of per-host files.  
They can't manage local customizations of configuration files, like  
resolv.conf or firewall settings. They can't be used to easily roll  
back a broken installation. They can't be used to layer  
installations, where Radmind can determine which version of a file  
should be installed based on administrator-defined loadset  
precedence. They can't be used for swift disaster recovery, such as  
the case where a clone of a downed host is needed immediately.

I could add more, but to be fair to the packaging utilities, Radmind  
is a full filesystem management utility. Package utilities like apt  
and rpm, are really installation solutions, not management solutions.  
Most home users running one machine are not likely to get much out of  
Radmind, but they need some reasonably consistent interface for  
installing software, and package utilities provide that, some (apt)  
better than others (rpm).

andrew

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