Garage Floor Painting

[Steve Kodz]

I'm trying to find the best product to paint my garage floor. There are a
number of options available, including water or oil based paints and epoxy
resins. Has anyone used any of these on their garage floor and how well to
the wear and stand up to daily use of jacks, engine stands and spillages?

Regards,
Steve
--
www.h4-turbo.co.uk

[graham...@tiscali.co.uk]

Epoxy is by far the best
Use a light grey for improved lighting

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group.
To post to this group, send email to quantu...@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowner...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en

IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).


Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

[Andy Heaton]

Steve

After the floor had dried and approximately six months later i sealed the
garage and pit floor with a clear concrete sealer to stop the concrete dust
and once dry used International Heavy duty Garage floor paint Grey or Red.
With the ribbed surface after a year the red floor paint was coming off but
the grey in the pit which has a smooth finish is fine.

Andy h.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Kodz" <st...@h4-turbo.co.uk>
To: <quantu...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Garage Floor Painting

[Susan and Martin Scott]

Hi Stephen,
In the garage of our previous house I used a grey one (think it was
International) which I guess was oil based as the instruction was to thin
with white spirit for the first coat. I simply followed the instructions,
and the results were good - after 5 years of use (incl jacking etc.) there
was no deterioration. One thing though was that it was slippery if entering
with wet footwear (to the point of being dangerous) so possibly a little
fine sand added to the mix could help?
The painted floor was a LOT better than a bare floor (no dust, great!)
Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Kodz" <st...@h4-turbo.co.uk>
To: <quantu...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Garage Floor Painting

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"Quantum Owners Group" group.
To post to this group, send email to quantu...@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
quantumowner...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en

IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is"
basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum
Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or
in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any
person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or
alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained
within this or related message(s).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.85/2531 - Release Date: 11/27/09
19:39:00

[Robert Craig]

Hi Steve,
There are hundreds of products available in all sorts of
variations. I have a catalogue at work from the company that supplies us
with our floor paint for the forklift w/shop. Have a look at

WWW.watco.co.uk

They have a vast selection.

We have tried various cheap (in relative terms) paint but it doesn't stand
up to the high amount of abuse it gets from the forklifts. I used standard
tile red floor paint at home straight onto the bare concrete and it lasted
well until I got the kit and started using the garage for working in rather
than just parking the tin top. As Martin said, It's quite slippery when wet
but there are lots of products that provide grip.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Kodz" <st...@h4-turbo.co.uk>
To: <quantu...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Garage Floor Painting

[Steve Kodz]

Thanks to everyone for their replies so far. I have been reading them and
doing more internet research and I think that next summer I'll look at
using a 2 part epoxy coating and anti-slip aggregate added. Before laying
this I'll use concrete etching to ensure the coating lasts.

I've found a good guide to this work here:

http://www.rd.com/how-to-apply-epoxy-floor-paint-to-your-garage/article17770.html

Thanks again and keep the comments and advice coming.

Regards,
Steve

--
www.h4-turbo.co.uk

[Matthew]

I used Halfords own brand reduced to half price paint (about £6 for a large
pot), grey was the only colour. It's still there 6 years later.. and so is
the carpet I put on top of most of it several years later ;-) the small bit
I did outside the garage door has warn away a bit.

Don't worry about jacks and such like - just keep half a pot of the stuff to
touch it back up if needed.

Matthew

> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-
> unsub...@googlegroups.com

> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an
> "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the
> Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum
> Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have
> any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss,
> or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the
> instructions contained within this or related message(s).
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group.
> To post to this group, send email to quantu...@googlegroups.com

> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-
> unsub...@googlegroups.com

[Ian Harrison]

you carpeted outside the Garage!

Great idea - I'll have to try that :-)

2009/11/28 Matthew <mat...@wastell.eu>

To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowner...@googlegroups.com

[Matthew]

Oh yes. ;-)

 

The living room, the stairs and one or two of the bedrooms ;-p

 

Matthew

[nigelp]

Steve, I used to work in the resin coating industry on sales,
technical and project work. Firstly avoid the DIY products sold
through the retail outlets and as already concluded go for an epoxy or
polyurethane 2 pack (base and activator) resin. Poly's are more
expensive but are less brittle therefore don't break the coating if
you drop any heavy tools. As you have already concluded I would stay
with epoxy for a domestic garage - I used this and it is fine. The
best products (and most expensive are from Thortex (now part of 3M
Scotchkote), a good and reasonably priced product is from resin
surfaces ltd, www.resinsurfaces.co.uk ( I have no ties but could
probably get you a good discount as I do know the people). As in most
coatings, there is no substitute for good preparation and the approach
depends upon flatness, level of contamination (oils etc) is there an
existing coating, surface latence etc. Most domestic floors have a
low density shuttered finish which readily powders on the surface. If
not prepared correctly the coating absorbs readily in to this and you
can get aeriation bubbles from the escapoing air while the product
cures. Let me know the condition of your floor and if you want any
help with product closer to the time and will be happy to help.

As you stated, best to do it in the summer as shouldn't apply below
about 7 deg C as most won't cure properly and at low temps cure rtimes
are considerably extended.
Nigel

[Steve Kodz]

Nigel,
That's great advise, thanks. It sound like it will be worth protecting the
slab, which currently is about 6 weeks old and no garage is over it, yet -
they start putting it up tomorrow.

I will probably be back in contact in warmer weather.

Regards,
Steve

--
www.h4-turbo.co.uk

[Matthew]

Maybe a daft question, but what is the benefit of painting a garage floor?
I did it 'cus the paint was cheap, rather than any real need to do it.
Cosmetically it looks nicer, and functionally it is easier to sweep etc..
What are the real benefits of resin over floor paint?

TYVM
Matthew

[Steve Kodz]

The same reason we have resin cars - if done properly it will last a
lifetime. A bare concrete floor will always generate a lot of dust and
spills will soak in and stain. I'm hoping that spending the money on a
decent resin floor will enable me to have a clean and low maintenance
floor, which doesn't become a death trap when wet. I'll be using a
suitable aggregate to provide grip.

Regards,
Steve

On Sunday 29 Nov 2009, Matthew wrote:
> Maybe a daft question, but what is the benefit of painting a garage
> floor? I did it 'cus the paint was cheap, rather than any real need to do
> it. Cosmetically it looks nicer, and functionally it is easier to sweep
> etc.. What are the real benefits of resin over floor paint?
>
> TYVM
> Matthew

--

www.h4-turbo.co.uk

[Michael...@aol.com]

I recall that when I worked at the Ford research centre one of my colleugues was a Formula Ford competitor and a suspension engineer. In order to set up his race cars he treated his garage floor with what I believe was called a levelling compound.

 

Does your experience include this kind of product?

 

Michael

[MattWilson(Q2-412)]

I'd be very cautious and do your research fully if planning to apply
any leveling compound before painting.
When I was researching the same, there are quite a few of the products
that seem to have bonding-issues if applied over leveling compound.

[nigelp]

For levelling compound read smoothing, although called self levellers
they smooth and don't level!!! OK to use if you use an epoxy one, but
this would really up the price and would probably be an overkill for a
domestic garage. Also when you are applying epoxies they are systems
with each element and coat having specific cure times and you must
read the data sheets and apply within the specified ovecoat window.
Otherwise you could have curing or adhesion problems. Choosing the
right system is key, but once it is down you will have a super long
life system.

[Mark D-B]

Regarding "levelling comound read smoothing", I beg to differ - the
cementatious latex levelling compounds are sufficiently thin that they
are significantly affected by gravity and therefore do level, rather
than smooth. This is not necessarily a good thing as your garage may
not itself be level and you may end up with rather more thickness than
you'd like in some areas.

I have used gritted epoxy on top of a cementatious latex levelling
compound in my workshop. Now, this is against the "data sheet" advice
for the epoxy as such levelling compounds don't have great stability.
However, the epoxy manufacturer stated that it may be satisfactory for
areas that don't get heavy traffic and I have not had any problems so
far. I'm not sure I'd like to risk it with a garage though.

I absolutely concur that using ungritted epoxy somewhere that oil can
be is a really bad idea. I did that with my previous workshop and
arrived rather suddenly on the floor often enough to make sure I
didn't make the same mistake with the new workshop!

Also, for a garage, a level floor isn't necessarily what you want as a
gentle fall keeps water heading away from where you want to be under
the car, whereas a dead level floor leaves puddles until they
evaporate or you mop them up (I know this because my grandfather was a
perfectionist and had a flat and level floor to his garage).

[Michael...@aol.com]

In a message dated 20/12/2009 19:04:52 GMT Standard Time, mark.dawson...@googlemail.com writes:

Also, for a garage, a level floor isn't necessarily what you want as a
gentle fall keeps water heading away from where you want to be under
the car, whereas a dead level floor leaves puddles until they
evaporate or you mop them up

When I mentioned levelling it was to recount the work commissioned by a suspension engineer fr iend of mine who wanted to be able to set up the suspension of his Formula Ford race car, and others, at home.

His garage was integral with his house, was waterproof, and did not suffer from condensation since water ingress  would have been bad for his Ferrari. It is probably pretty obvious that he was a batchelor.

 

Michael