I found a Debian version on Sourceforge, but www.shupp.org/toaster no
longer exists, and it just re-directs to Bills blog with no mention of
the toaster anywhere.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Hank Eskin <hes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I found a Debian version on Sourceforge, but www.shupp.org/toaster no > longer exists, and it just re-directs to Bills blog with no mention of > the toaster anywhere.
> Is the Qmail toaster dead?
Yes. The TLS patch used in this toaster had a security problem which I was notified about recently. The options were to upgrade the patch or take it down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain it. Since I've not had any luck soliciting new leadership on this project, I took it down.
You can find the source of the toaster, as well as related patches, on github here:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Hank Eskin <hes...@gmail.com > <mailto:hes...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I found a Debian version on Sourceforge, but www.shupp.org/toaster > <http://www.shupp.org/toaster> no > longer exists, and it just re-directs to Bills blog with no mention of > the toaster anywhere.
> Is the Qmail toaster dead?
> Yes. The TLS patch used in this toaster had a security problem which I > was notified about recently. The options were to upgrade the patch or > take it down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain > it. Since I've not had any luck soliciting new leadership on this > project, I took it down.
> You can find the source of the toaster, as well as related patches, on > github here:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Hank Eskin <hes...@gmail.com > <mailto:hes...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I found a Debian version on Sourceforge, but www.shupp.org/toaster > <http://www.shupp.org/toaster> no > longer exists, and it just re-directs to Bills blog with no mention of > the toaster anywhere.
> Is the Qmail toaster dead?
> Yes. The TLS patch used in this toaster had a security problem which I > was notified about recently. The options were to upgrade the patch or > take it down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain > it. Since I've not had any luck soliciting new leadership on this > project, I took it down.
> You can find the source of the toaster, as well as related patches, on > github here:
Thanks for the logical explanation... Might I suggest you put an easy to see/find notice on your blog/website to this effect? I easily spent 30 minutes trying to find the Qmail toaster I've come to know and love after all these years and I'm fairly disappointed that it's now gone. I had planned on creating one or two more Qmail toasters this year, so now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I'm not sure where to start with the github source.
Also, what about leaving the toaster up with a big disclaimer about the TLS patch security problem and let people use at their own risk?
Best,
-Hank
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Jeff Koch <jeffk...@intersessions.com>wrote:
> I didn't know you where taking it down. Any chance that you can put the > site back up for a couple of days so we can copy off what we need?
> Jeff
> On 4/5/2011 11:36 PM, Bill Shupp wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Hank Eskin <hes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I found a Debian version on Sourceforge, but www.shupp.org/toaster no >> longer exists, and it just re-directs to Bills blog with no mention of >> the toaster anywhere.
>> Is the Qmail toaster dead?
> Yes. The TLS patch used in this toaster had a security problem which I was > notified about recently. The options were to upgrade the patch or take it > down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain it. Since > I've not had any luck soliciting new leadership on this project, I took it > down.
> You can find the source of the toaster, as well as related patches, on > github here:
> Where would I find the text of the instructions provided previously on your website?
> Jeff
> On 4/5/2011 11:36 PM, Bill Shupp wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Hank Eskin <hes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I found a Debian version on Sourceforge, but www.shupp.org/toaster no >> longer exists, and it just re-directs to Bills blog with no mention of >> the toaster anywhere.
>> Is the Qmail toaster dead?
>> Yes. The TLS patch used in this toaster had a security problem which I was notified about recently. The options were to upgrade the patch or take it down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain it. Since I've not had any luck soliciting new leadership on this project, I took it down.
>> You can find the source of the toaster, as well as related patches, on github here:
I downloaded the stable code from github and uploaded it to a server running PHP 5.3.6 with mbstring. The site won't load. I've installed PEAR, but the code is still looking for, and can't find BTS.php. Is this a required PEAR package? Any other requirements to run the toaster locally?
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Tom Collins <t...@tomlogic.com> wrote: > I think Bill's message is clear that the toaster docs (HTML) and source > files are on github.
> -Tom > (Sent from my phone; forgive my brevity)
> On Apr 6, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Jeff Koch <jeffk...@intersessions.com> wrote:
> Hi Bill:
> Where would I find the text of the instructions provided previously on your > website?
> Jeff
> On 4/5/2011 11:36 PM, Bill Shupp wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Hank Eskin < <hes...@gmail.com> > hes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I found a Debian version on Sourceforge, but >> <http://www.shupp.org/toaster>www.shupp.org/toaster no >> longer exists, and it just re-directs to Bills blog with no mention of >> the toaster anywhere.
>> Is the Qmail toaster dead?
> Yes. The TLS patch used in this toaster had a security problem which I was > notified about recently. The options were to upgrade the patch or take it > down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain it. Since > I've not had any luck soliciting new leadership on this project, I took it > down.
> You can find the source of the toaster, as well as related patches, on > github here:
Here's the email I got from Frederik Vermeulen, author of the TLS patch for qmail, on April 2:
################################# Hello,
you were concerned in the development and/or packaging of qmail tls patch. I have been notified by cert of a (relatively low-impact) flaw that has been made public today.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Hank <hes...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bill,
> I downloaded the stable code from github and uploaded it to a server > running PHP 5.3.6 with mbstring. The site won't load. I've installed PEAR, > but the code is still looking for, and can't find BTS.php. Is this a > required PEAR package? Any other requirements to run the toaster locally?
> Many Thanks,
> -Hank
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Tom Collins <t...@tomlogic.com> wrote:
>> I think Bill's message is clear that the toaster docs (HTML) and source >> files are on github.
>> -Tom >> (Sent from my phone; forgive my brevity)
>> On Apr 6, 2011, at 5:19 AM, Jeff Koch <jeffk...@intersessions.com> wrote:
>> Hi Bill:
>> Where would I find the text of the instructions provided previously on >> your website?
>> Jeff
>> On 4/5/2011 11:36 PM, Bill Shupp wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Hank Eskin < <hes...@gmail.com> >> hes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I found a Debian version on Sourceforge, but >>> <http://www.shupp.org/toaster>www.shupp.org/toaster no >>> longer exists, and it just re-directs to Bills blog with no mention of >>> the toaster anywhere.
>>> Is the Qmail toaster dead?
>> Yes. The TLS patch used in this toaster had a security problem which I was >> notified about recently. The options were to upgrade the patch or take it >> down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain it. Since >> I've not had any luck soliciting new leadership on this project, I took it >> down.
>> You can find the source of the toaster, as well as related patches, on >> github here:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Hank <hes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks again, Bill.
> I got the Qmail Toaster page running locally (<relieved>), and just to > summarize for anyone else who might try this, here are the steps I followed:
> One last request.. can you make the /patches directory available again on > your site (even briefly) so I can archive these patches which are now 404:
> take it down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain
I'm curious. What do you use now? And why?
> Regards,
> Bill
-- --------------------------- Jason Frisvold xenopha...@gmail.com --------------------------- "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams
In the past I ran a hosting company that hosted mail internally, which was my need for qmail. I only have a need for personal mail hosting these days, so I just use Google Apps.
Bill
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jason Frisvold <xenopha...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 04/05/2011 11:36 PM, Bill Shupp wrote: > > take it down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain
> I'm curious. What do you use now? And why?
> > Regards,
> > Bill
> -- > --------------------------- > Jason Frisvold > xenopha...@gmail.com > --------------------------- > "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." > - Douglas Adams
I follwed your instruction from http://billslinuxqmail.sourceforge.net/toaster/ and running one mail server using qmail-toaster. Appricate if you please advise me whether I am in risk or I have to update anything to avoid the risk.
Thanks,
Tarique
From: qmail-toaster@googlegroups.com [mailto:qmail-toaster@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Shupp Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:18 PM To: qmail-toaster@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [toaster] What happened to the toaster?
In the past I ran a hosting company that hosted mail internally, which was my need for qmail. I only have a need for personal mail hosting these days, so I just use Google Apps.
Bill
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jason Frisvold <xenopha...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 04/05/2011 11:36 PM, Bill Shupp wrote:
> take it down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain
I'm curious. What do you use now? And why?
> Regards,
> Bill
-- --------------------------- Jason Frisvold xenopha...@gmail.com --------------------------- "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams
I don't maintain those, Rick Widmer does. I only started it. I'd refer to my earlier post on this thread regarding the TLS email and the qmail-toaster patch version.
Regards,
Bill
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Tarique Saleh Mahmud <
> I follwed your instruction from > http://billslinuxqmail.sourceforge.net/toaster/ and running one mail > server using qmail-toaster. Appricate if you please advise me whether I am > in risk or I have to update anything to avoid the risk.
> Thanks,
> Tarique
> *From:* qmail-toaster@googlegroups.com [mailto: > qmail-toaster@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Shupp > *Sent:* Friday, April 08, 2011 11:18 PM
> *To:* qmail-toaster@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [toaster] What happened to the toaster?
> In the past I ran a hosting company that hosted mail internally, which was > my need for qmail. I only have a need for personal mail hosting these days, > so I just use Google Apps.
> Bill
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Jason Frisvold <xenopha...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> On 04/05/2011 11:36 PM, Bill Shupp wrote: > > take it down. I don't use Qmail anymore, and have no need to maintain
> I'm curious. What do you use now? And why?
> > Regards,
> > Bill
> -- > --------------------------- > Jason Frisvold > xenopha...@gmail.com > --------------------------- > "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." > - Douglas Adams
