[QLab] On ticket 623 (Scrubbing a cue in the Active Cues panel resets the volume levels) in the Tracker

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Maik Waschfeld

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Sep 27, 2010, 5:51:42 AM9/27/10
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Above mentioned ticket reminded me to a suggestion, I'd had in mind
for a long time.

I'd like to have the possibility to define an independent "Pre Fade
Listening/PFL"-port (or whatever you'd like to call it) in the
workspace-preferences, that routes the signal of the audio in the
Inspector's "Settings"-tab to that PFL-port with 0 dB-FS (or an
adjustable value), no matter what the actual routing or levels of that
cue was. The Fade-Envelopes in the cue should be "regarded",
nevertheless.
So it would be possible to easily edit a forthcomming cue, without
distracting any running cues and without changing anything in the
levels or routing of the edited cue.

Reason:
I really don't want to hear the team on stage, what I'm actually
editing during rehearsals.

Any comments on this from the other users?


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Christopher Ashworth

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Sep 27, 2010, 7:57:22 AM9/27/10
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How about temporarily switching the patch of the cue to the headphone jack of the computer? There would need to be some GUI interaction to disable "normal" output anyway, and as long as there is, that seems like a decent way to listen to the cue privately. (And of course you can set up the device routing for the stereo jack so you still hear all channels.)

-C

On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Maik Waschfeld wrote:
>
> I'd like to have the possibility to define an independent "Pre Fade Listening/PFL"-port (or whatever you'd like to call it) in the workspace-preferences, that routes the signal of the audio in the Inspector's "Settings"-tab to that PFL-port with 0 dB-FS (or an adjustable value), no matter what the actual routing or levels of that cue was. The Fade-Envelopes in the cue should be "regarded", nevertheless.
> So it would be possible to easily edit a forthcomming cue, without distracting any running cues and without changing anything in the levels or routing of the edited cue.
>
> Reason:
> I really don't want to hear the team on stage, what I'm actually editing during rehearsals.

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Maik Waschfeld

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Oct 1, 2010, 7:28:46 AM10/1/10
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Hi Chris,

> How about temporarily switching the patch of the cue to the
> headphone jack of the computer?

That's, what I'd call a work-around and I'm doing it already.

My intention was to not need that work-around anymore.
When I'm on the Settings-tab. that is in the desired PFL-mode, I don't
need to hear all channels, 'cause I can't change any multi-out-based
settings there, anyway.

And:
the PFL-mode wouldn't be an ether-or, like the mentioned work-around..
Other (running) cues, other than the one, which is selected in the
Settings-tab, should use their normal, programmed destinations.

On the other hand:
on one of our shows, I need the readout of the waveform of one running
cue during the show to know "where I am within that cue" to decide,
what to do next.
So a "programmable", non-temporarily button ("Disable PFL-mode") on
the Settings-tab would be nessesary, too.

But if no one else chimes in, consider my suggestion as "nice (or
whatever), but impractical for anyone else".


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...Maik
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Am 27.09.2010 um 13:57 schrieb Christopher Ashworth:

> How about temporarily switching the patch of the cue to the
> headphone jack of the computer? There would need to be some GUI
> interaction to disable "normal" output anyway, and as long as there
> is, that seems like a decent way to listen to the cue privately.
> (And of course you can set up the device routing for the stereo jack
> so you still hear all channels.)
>
> -C

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Christopher Ashworth

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Oct 1, 2010, 7:41:40 AM10/1/10
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On Oct 1, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Maik Waschfeld wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
>> How about temporarily switching the patch of the cue to the headphone jack of the computer?
>
> That's, what I'd call a work-around and I'm doing it already.
>
> My intention was to not need that work-around anymore.
> When I'm on the Settings-tab. that is in the desired PFL-mode, I don't need to hear all channels, 'cause I can't change any multi-out-based settings there, anyway.
>
> And:
> the PFL-mode wouldn't be an ether-or, like the mentioned work-around..
> Other (running) cues, other than the one, which is selected in the Settings-tab, should use their normal, programmed destinations.

I think I don't quite understand -- why would changing the patch assignment on one cue to hear it out headphones affect other cues?

Best,
Chris

Maik Waschfeld

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Oct 1, 2010, 8:16:21 AM10/1/10
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Hi Chris,

> I think I don't quite understand -- why would changing the patch
> assignment on one cue to hear it out headphones affect other cues?


Sorry, you're right!
I thought you were reffering to the patching in the preferences.

But Sam's script did a nice trick on the subject, so all's fine!


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