Asking for hosting provider recommendation

[cool-RR]

I'm sorry for posting something off-topic to this mailing list, but I didn't find a solid recommendation anywhere else, and I figured people here would surely have one.

I'm looking for a simple hosting provider for a few of my low-traffic sites. I'm looking for something cheap and reliable. I'm not looking for some fashionable Web 2.0-ish hip hosting company -- I'd prefer just some solid "Since 199x" simple one, where I can count on them not shutting down anytime soon.

I used to rely on Zipa for the last five years, which was just that kind of provider, and I was paying $30 a year for it, and they had great reliability and support, and I was happy, and I recommended them to everyone. But they went bad about a year ago, and now I actually had to resort to contacting ICANN which is now helping me pry my domain name out of Zipa's cold, dead hands.

So does anyone here have a recommendation for a good 'n simple host?

Thanks,

Ram.

[Dima Kuchin]

I heard good things about this one: http://www.webfaction.com

I am not using shared hosting, for VPS I'm using http://linode.com but
obviously it's more expensive than webfaction.

[Sivan Green]

I know a couple good ones, and I happen to try to become a reseller
for a very well known UK hosting company. If you are interested, mail
me to sivang __AT__ gmail.com and I'll be happy to assist.

The cost would be around 200NIS per month, unlimited bandwidth and
very good and realiable service.

Sivan

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Sivan Green

[benny daon]

I'm using slicehost and am very happy. It's a VPS service for developers - no fancy control panel, just you and the shell. I've been using their basic $20 package for a couple of years and it just works.

Benny

[cool-RR]

Thanks Benny, but I'm looking for something "for dummies," with a control panel. I don't want to be spending nights solving Linux problems for my simple websites.

[Rafi B.]

> I heard good things about this one:http://www.webfaction.com

I second http://www.webfaction.com --
and even better, http://www.slicehost.com sounds really really good..
Now owned by Rackspace.

[cool-RR]

Okay, thanks to everyone who gave their recommendation!

Ram.

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Sincerely,
Ram Rachum

[Idan Gazit]

Webfaction is excellent, I've used them for several clients and it's a
good tradeoff of control vs headache. Still, it's more like a VPS in
terms of the knowledge you have to have to manage it...

If you do decide to go VPS, I'd strongly recommend Linode. I've been
their customer for about 5 years now, and they recently stomped
everybody else in a performance test (http://journal.uggedal.com/vps-performance-comparison
). Still, VPS = you have to admin.

But bottom line, neither of these is just a point-and-click solution.

-I

[cool-RR]

I just signed up for Webfaction, I hope it won't be too Linuxy. Anyway there's a money back guarantee so at worst I'll cancel.

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[Itay Donenhirsch]

hi,
how is linode in terms of response time from Israel? meaning, can I
comfortably ssh there with reasonable response times?
thanks
itay

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Idan Gazit <id...@pixane.com> wrote:

[Sivan Green]

I've had terrible issues using Bezeq Int's connection, and I've found
out many israeli ISPs have issues with providing reliable enough
connection for ssh'ing to abroad. Since Orange are connected straight
to london internet exchange, it appears you get exellent response
times to VPSs hosted out of Israel.

I reckon you shouldn't have issues SSHing from .IL, but mind you, if
you have international customers they might have high latency to reach
the server.

Sivan

[Udi h Bauman]

My experience with Django hosting for the past 3 years:

• WebFaction: excellent control panel & support. Recommended. (though Alex had some issues with non-standard configuration there)
• Linode: not satisfied due to lousy security. you have to install scripts to secure your VPS, & get no help from their support. We couldn't make it secure enough though: we currently pay them for a machine used mainly by hackers...
• Amazon: great infra & service. you have to install & admin everything by yourself, though you can start from prepared instances (e.g.). Costs more than the others, but you also get more & can pay just for actual use.
• Google: not pure Django & lot's of constraints, but it just works & is free under small load.

Udi

[Idan Gazit]

How hard is it to lock down your servers?

$ sudo apt-get install firehol

Edit a few lines to leave only ssh and 80/443 open.

Bam, you're done. Make sure not to write webapps that are insecure! :)

-I

On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Udi h Bauman wrote:

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> • Linode: not satisfied due to lousy security. you have to install

[Itay Donenhirsch]

thanks for the tip :)
btw, i'm on bezeq intl and very happy, my current vps is on their net
so i got lucky here.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Sivan Green <siv...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Sivan Green]

Oh right, if that's the case you're golden.

That what I was thinking re: securing, I don't always use a firewall
even, just make sure no undesired services are running and listening
on the outside world interface.

Sivan

[Ahik Man]

Important and interesting discussion that worth 'tagging'.
Is anyone willing to summarizing it into this group page? 
http://groups.google.com/group/pyweb-il/web/django-friendly-hosting-services
Sorry, but my personal experience is very limit. If I'll do it, it will be about copy&paste Udi's messages.

Ahik

[Tom Goren]

the question is, does this relate only to hosting providers that support django natively?

because a lot of the suggestions were just plain old vps packages, which doesn't really have much to do with django...

2009/12/16 Ahik Man <ahik...@gmail.com>

[Ahik Man]

We (= everybody in this group) can maintain this page in any reasonable fashion.

For instance, General VPS list, and Native Django support. Or just to mark near each service, what it take to run Django app on it.

Fill free to shape this page.

Ahik

[Yoav Aviram]

We are using WebFaction, which is very good but expensive.
Recently we moved all projects to app engine because its free to start with.
If you need cheap alternatives try http://www.10besthosting2009.com/