Hosting

[dima]

Hi,

I am working on a pet project, which starts to shape up, and I am
thinking about opening it up to general public :)

It's a small Py/Django webapp which also uses Solr.

Can you suggest a decent hosting? I am not imaging a flood of users or
huge amounts of content right now.

Greatly appreciate your suggestions.

Thanks,
Dima.

[oz katz]

Does the location matter? do you have to host it in Israel? if not I would suggest WebFaction (http://webfaction.com)
They are pretty cheap, Django friendly and have pretty decent support.

Oz

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[Ahik Man]

Oz,

Do you know which python/Django/DB versions they are supporting? 

Ahik

[cool-RR]

+1 for WebFaction, I'm using them and enjoying it.

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[Udi h Bauman]

WebFaction are great - almost no sys-admin work needed. 

Other 2 options I recommend:

• django-nonrel over Google AppEngine: your app is pure Django & you can use almost anything in Django (soon they'll support even joins - using their dbindexer!). No sys-admin work what-so-ever.
• RackSpace cloud: VPS with pricing similar to WebFaction. You'll need to do the sys admin work yourself (deployment &c).

I usually prefer AppEngine over all the others.

Udi

[oz katz]

Hi,

They offer easy installation through their management panel of Django from 0.96 up to the current 1.2.3 (I just checked the GUI).
Python is 2.6
As for databases - they offer MySQL and PostgreSQL, but their versions are not stated in the management GUI, so I really don't know.
If the DB version is an issue - I would just ask them first. they usually respond within a couple of hours.

p.s
since they also give you SSH access, you can basically install whatever you want. so this is more of a support issue
than it is a technical one.

Thanks,
Oz

[Refael Ackermann]

We used to use WebFaction, they were very good.

Now we're "exclusive" with GAE.

If you're willing to experiment, you could consider django-nonrel on GAE, or AWS micro instances (0.02$ per hour = 15$ per month) as a fully scalable VPS.

[alon....@gmail.com]

+1 for udi's suggestion. i see no reason why you should invest in hosting when you got a good free option to start with on app engine and no-rel. its just a fraction of learning datastore access. 

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[benny daon]

On 13 October 2010 13:12, dima <dima...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hi,

I am working on a pet project, which starts to shape up, and I am
thinking about opening it up to general public :)

It's a small Py/Django webapp which also uses Solr.

Can you suggest a decent hosting? I am not imaging a flood of users or
huge amounts of content right now.

I would advice against webfaction and the likes for any project bigger than a personal blog. If the project is going to take off you'll have the biggest challenge - scaling - and you'll need a professional to help. It's really a case of penny wise, pound foolish, as going live without a system-ninja means you take on technical debt. 

If you choose to pay a bit more upfront, I can recommend http://nsa.co.il who have been providing Open Knesset with free hosting and services. It takes a bit more time to setup initially, but it's very scalable and it's founder, Aric Fedida (aric at nsa.co.il) knows Django and all the latest tools, is very supportive and a great sysadmin. So far, we had two 'screen' sessions were we shared the terminal remotely and I learned a lot from him. He also setup a project management site for OK using redmine, complete with github connection and all the extensions we asked for.

Good luck with your pet,

Benny.

[dima]

My app is not pure Django as it uses Solr for full text search, so I
guess GAE isn't an option. Or am I missing something?

Has anyone experienced scaling problems with WebFaction? I mean, for a
fact?

Dima.

P.S. Thanks a LOT to all of you for your help !

[Zvi .]

Hi,

did anybody already tried AWS Micro instances for hosting (vs. VPS)?
I invested a lot of resources into AWS for my non-web projects and would like to do my web-related stuff also there.

BR,
Zvi

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[Dima Kuchin]

Micro instances will only fit for low profile projects. For example,
I'm hosting Zabbix on such an instance to monitor my other non-micro
machines.

On Oct 14, 9:24 pm, "Zvi ." <zvi.avra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> did anybody already tried AWS Micro instances for hosting (vs. VPS)?
> I invested a lot of resources into AWS for my non-web projects and would
> like to do my web-related stuff also there.
>
> BR,
> Zvi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 7:30 PM, dima <dima.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My app is not pure Django as it uses Solr for full text search, so I
> > guess GAE isn't an option. Or am I missing something?
>
> > Has anyone experienced scaling problems with WebFaction? I mean, for a
> > fact?
>
> > Dima.
>
> > P.S. Thanks a LOT to all of you for your help !
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[Refael Ackermann]

Dima: If you switch to whoosh you can go GAE, since it's pure python

Zvi: I'm hosting on micro instances. I'm even using Ubuntu (after fixing a small issue), works very well. Much more flexible than a VPS (pay as you go / on demand). I've load tested vanilla WordPress (no caching or PHP compilation), and found the knee at ~50 concurrent users. Just don't be tempted to use spot instances - your price limit will be reached, they'll delete your machine, and by Murphy's law it'll be the night before your big presentation.

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[Netanel Lev]

I'm a newbie but doesn't django non-rel implement a search engine already?

http://www.allbuttonspressed.com/blog/django/2010/03/Nonrel-search-released

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