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gasolin@gmail.com  
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 More options May 10 2007, 4:44 am
From: "gaso...@gmail.com" <gaso...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:44:17 -0000
Local: Thurs, May 10 2007 4:44 am
Subject: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
python.tw 也要有願景!

一個群組沒有了願景, 跟鹹魚有什麼兩樣.

python.tw 的願景是什麼呢?

1. 使 python 語言成為程式員的隨身工具
2. One Python Per Person
3. 由你來想
....

上來說說自己的想法吧!


 
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 More options May 10 2007, 10:38 am
From: marr <marr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:38:00 -0000
Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
gasolin 提的兩項,都很好。
如果我來合成一大句,那就是
讓程式員的學習門檻降低,
讓程式員的生產力提昇,
讓每個人更快樂地實現自己的願景。

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 More options May 10 2007, 12:07 pm
From: keitheis <keith...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:07:48 -0000
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Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
天外飛來一個願景:專注於PWWP

我想了一下,什是PWWP啊?那大概似近於未來的精神:

Python 3.0.0.0.?.?.?  (#3, May  10 2030, 12:34:56)
[GCC 9.9.9 20200202 (postrelease) (debian 7)] on linux3
Type "help", "me", "play" or "die" for more information.

>>> PWWP = '?'
>>> typography = "P__Pa"
>>> if PWWP != typography:
>>>         PWWP = '''Perfect Work With Python -
>>>                    (用 pyhton 完美地完成工作 or 用python來做最好)'''

其實是廣告用詞?嘿。

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 More options May 10 2007, 1:06 pm
From: "gaso...@gmail.com" <gaso...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:06:03 -0000
Local: Thurs, May 10 2007 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
必須說明的是第1點是 youngyuc 在 #python.tw irc 上提出來的.
marr 的這個總結的蠻好的, 只是第三句感覺還可以想辦法表達地更好 。

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 More options May 10 2007, 1:28 pm
From: marr <marr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:28:48 -0000
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Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
萬宗歸於一"Py"

^^

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 More options May 10 2007, 6:25 pm
From: "Yung-Yu Chen" <yung...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 06:25:23 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 10 2007 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: [python.tw] Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集

Hi All,

因為願景這種東西要簡潔有力;一條一條地這樣列,看起來就不像願景了
(如果背都背不起來,怎麼拿去對人洗腦呢你說是不)。因此,我們不要只「列出」自己的想法好了,把我們的想法「融合」到一起。

還有,simple is better than complex!readilibity counts!

我來試著把提出過的條目:

- 使 python 語言成為程式員的隨身工具
- One Python Per Person
- 讓程式員的學習門檻降低,讓程式員的生產力提昇,讓每個人更快樂地實現自己的願景
- 用 python 完美地完成工作
- 用 python 來做最好
- 萬宗歸於一"Py"

融合成一塊:

讓台灣程式員都用 Python 搞定一切。

我的基本句型一定是「讓+S+V+O」 ^^; 以便目標 (S) 明確、工作 (V) 明確、對象 (O) 明確。例如微軟說要讓每個人桌上都有一台電腦
(這好像是以前的版本,現在似乎有調整過,我一時想不起來),咕狗說要整合世界上所有的資訊,並讓所有人都可以輕易存取。這些組織的行為都符合他們的願景,是學 習的好榜樣
(在組織願景上啦),所以我希望我們也就這樣作吧。

融合的過程中把一些想法犧牲了;遺憾歸遺憾,精鍊還是很重要的。麻煩大家繼續用「改寫」的方式,把重要的想法補進融合版,這樣我們才有統一的願景!雖然
simplicity 和 readibility 很重要,但有想法就加吧,不必寫到太漂亮;最後我一定會重新整理一遍的。

讓我們搞個統一強力的願景吧。

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Yung-Yu Chen

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 More options May 10 2007, 6:29 pm
From: "Yung-Yu Chen" <yung...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 06:29:40 +0800
Local: Thurs, May 10 2007 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: [python.tw] Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集

找到 MS 的新願景了 :D

幫助全世界的人群與企業了解他們的全部潛能。
help people and businesses throughout the world realize their full potential

http://www.cybergrain.com/archives/2004/12/googles_vision.html 找到的;被評論為比
GG 的差勁。我也覺得他們舊的那版比較有力量!誰曉得潛力有沒有被挖出來呀,桌上擺台電腦比較實在啦。

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y...@seety.org


 
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 More options May 10 2007, 11:42 pm
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 03:42:56 -0000
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Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
所以願景要明確而有目標, 這樣才有實現的動力.

願景:

使 python 語言成為程式員的必備工具

行動:

從幾個方面推廣 Python

1. 讓學習門檻降低
2. 讓生產力提昇
3. 讓程式跨平台使用
4. ....

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 More options May 10 2007, 11:47 pm
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Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 03:47:20 -0000
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Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
所以願景要明確而有目標, 這樣才有實現的動力.

願景 (工作內容):
使 python 語言成為程式員的必備工具

行動價值:

我們會從幾個方面推廣 Python

1. 讓學習(程式語言/工具)的門檻降低
2. 讓生產力提昇
3. 讓程式能跨平台使用
4. ....

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 More options May 12 2007, 11:16 am
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Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 08:16:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
重載一下:

願景 or 宗旨

載入 Python,少作多玩!

行動價值 or 任務目標

1. 讓學習(程式語言/工具)的門檻降低
2. 讓生產力提昇
3. 讓程式能跨平台使用
4. 提出好用的案例
5...

這個應該也有不少點可以討論吧


 
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 More options May 15 2007, 10:22 am
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:22:35 -0000
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Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
有點搞混主題了。

目前徵集的是 python 的願景還是 python.tw 的願景。


 
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 More options May 15 2007, 11:03 am
From: "Yung-Yu Chen" <yung...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:03:17 +0800
Local: Tues, May 15 2007 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [python.tw] Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集

python.tw 的願景。

因為 python.tw 的人在 python-dev community 有份量的人,應該少到我從來沒聽說過,所以按下不表。

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> 有點搞混主題了。

> 目前徵集的是 python 的願景還是 python.tw 的願景。

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 More options May 15 2007, 12:03 pm
From: hoamon <hoa...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 16:03:56 -0000
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Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
1 因為有 Python, 讓我們(python.tw)與你共成長

2 有 python 最美,python.tw 相隨

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 More options Jul 2 2007, 11:33 am
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Subject: Re: 'python.tw 願景'限時募集
看大家說得好 high,不過我腦袋裏頭沒啥點子或想法

只是想說

我待的 3D animation studio,因為 3D/CG 的軟體裏頭,愈來愈多開始使用 pythong 作為 script
language(Maya 8.5, XSI SoftImage, Blender 等重量級軟體),所以也可以以此做為號召之一,來吸引有別於
cs backgrounded programmer 進 python world?

Drake

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 More options Jul 2 2007, 10:02 pm
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:02:17 -0000
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> 看大家說得好 high,不過我腦袋裏頭沒啥點子或想法

> 只是想說

> 我待的 3D animation studio,因為 3D/CG 的軟體裏頭,愈來愈多開始使用 pythong 作為 script
> language(Maya 8.5, XSI SoftImage, Blender 等重量級軟體),所以也可以以此做為號召之一,來吸引有別於
> cs backgrounded programmer 進 python world?

很好的想法 :D

 
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