Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms. It's like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know what I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can talk about it here instead, no slides necessary).
Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white paper that has a grid, and some post-it notes. How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might want to have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it note and place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector required either.
This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it does work. This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss something they are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small the groups are either.
Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this turns out, as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in 2011/2012. This also really depends on how many people are committed to volunteer to help.
> Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms.
> It's
> like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know
> what
> I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can
> talk
> about it here instead, no slides necessary).
> Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white paper
> that
> has a grid, and some post-it notes.
> How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might want to
> have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it note
> and
> place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector required
> either.
> This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it does work.
> This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss something
> they
> are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small the
> groups
> are either.
> Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this turns
> out,
> as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in
> 2011/2012.
> This also really depends on how many people are committed to volunteer to
> help.
> Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms.
> It's like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know
> what I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can
> talk about it here instead, no slides necessary).
> Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white paper that
> has a grid, and some post-it notes.
> How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might want to
> have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it note and
> place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector required
> either.
> This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it does work.
> This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss something they
> are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small the groups
> are either.
> Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this turns out,
> as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in 2011/2012.
> This also really depends on how many people are committed to volunteer to
> help.
> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms.
> > It's
> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know
> > what
> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can
> > talk
> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
> > Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white paper
> > that
> > has a grid, and some post-it notes.
> > How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might want to
> > have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it note
> > and
> > place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector required
> > either.
> > This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it does work.
> > This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss something
> > they
> > are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small the
> > groups
> > are either.
> > Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this turns
> > out,
> > as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in
> > 2011/2012.
> > This also really depends on how many people are committed to volunteer to
> > help.
>> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms.
>> > It's
>> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know
>> > what
>> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can
>> > talk
>> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
>> > Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white paper
>> > that
>> > has a grid, and some post-it notes.
>> > How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might want to
>> > have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it note
>> > and
>> > place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector required
>> > either.
>> > This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it does work.
>> > This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss something
>> > they
>> > are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small the
>> > groups
>> > are either.
>> > Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this turns
>> > out,
>> > as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in
>> > 2011/2012.
>> > This also really depends on how many people are committed to volunteer to
>> > help.
>>> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms. >>> > It's >>> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know >>> > what >>> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can >>> > talk >>> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
>>> > Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white paper >>> > that >>> > has a grid, and some post-it notes. >>> > How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might want to >>> > have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it note >>> > and >>> > place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector required >>> > either.
>>> > This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it does work. >>> > This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss something >>> > they >>> > are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small the >>> > groups >>> > are either.
>>> > Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this turns >>> > out, >>> > as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in >>> > 2011/2012. >>> > This also really depends on how many people are committed to volunteer to >>> > help.
I been on this list for awhile but I have never emailed before so hello to
all. :)
If you want to have the event in Trinity, I could ask the CS Dept if
something can be sorted out, I'm a Masters student here.
Might be able to work out something, if you could give me some details about
the approx. number of people and date that would be great.
The Science Gallery could be a pretty good place for this, and they have
pretty good coffee at a pretty good price well for Dublin anyway.
> >>> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few
> rooms.
> >>> > It's
> >>> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you
> know
> >>> > what
> >>> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you
> can
> >>> > talk
> >>> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
> >>> > Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white
> paper
> >>> > that
> >>> > has a grid, and some post-it notes.
> >>> > How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might want
> to
> >>> > have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it
> note
> >>> > and
> >>> > place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector
> required
> >>> > either.
> >>> > This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it does
> work.
> >>> > This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss
> something
> >>> > they
> >>> > are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small the
> >>> > groups
> >>> > are either.
> >>> > Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this
> turns
> >>> > out,
> >>> > as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in
> >>> > 2011/2012.
> >>> > This also really depends on how many people are committed to
> volunteer to
> >>> > help.
I know that Cassidy's on Westmoreland (not to be confused with
Cassidy's on Camden Street) gladly lends out it's rooms to different
student groups and other organisations that involve heavy drinking.
They have a bar that serves food, and a number of rooms that are
relatively quiet, which sounds like what we're looking for. The only
caviat is that they don't have a projector, which wouldn't be that big
a deal for an unconference.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM, David Guerin<da...@strotos.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I been on this list for awhile but I have never emailed before so hello to
> all. :)
> If you want to have the event in Trinity, I could ask the CS Dept if
> something can be sorted out, I'm a Masters student here.
> Might be able to work out something, if you could give me some details about
> the approx. number of people and date that would be great.
> The Science Gallery could be a pretty good place for this, and they have
> pretty good coffee at a pretty good price well for Dublin anyway.
>> >>> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few
>> >>> > rooms.
>> >>> > It's
>> >>> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you
>> >>> > know
>> >>> > what
>> >>> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you
>> >>> > can
>> >>> > talk
>> >>> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
>> >>> > Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white
>> >>> > paper
>> >>> > that
>> >>> > has a grid, and some post-it notes.
>> >>> > How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might
>> >>> > want to
>> >>> > have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it
>> >>> > note
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector
>> >>> > required
>> >>> > either.
>> >>> > This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it does
>> >>> > work.
>> >>> > This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss
>> >>> > something
>> >>> > they
>> >>> > are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small the
>> >>> > groups
>> >>> > are either.
>> >>> > Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this
>> >>> > turns
>> >>> > out,
>> >>> > as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in
>> >>> > 2011/2012.
>> >>> > This also really depends on how many people are committed to
>> >>> > volunteer to
>> >>> > help.
To clear things up, for this unconference, I want to try to have a venue
that does not have drinks, that's just our usual pub meet up anyway.
The purpose of this "unconference" is for an individual to start a
conversation and people join in that discussion. This is not a talk, so no
lecturing (which is helpful as we don't need a projector or internet
connection).
If people decide that they don't like the discussion, they are free to walk
to another discussion (it's *not* rude to do so), or you can even start your
own. The main thing is to keep the energy of the discussion amongst the
group going.
A few of us last night (yes at the pub relaxing from Europython) think that
we should try this as an evening event to see how this pans out before
trying a full day session. If you are skeptical, that's alright, but it does
work (according to Bruce Eckel ;) ), and even Pycon UK are trying an
unconference this September. I'll keep people posted about that one in UK if
anyone is interested.
Trinity College would be a good venue, we just need about 4 rooms, they
don't have to be huge. It has to be big enough for people to sit in a
circle. We have between 15-20 people turning up, and size of groups in
discussions can range from 2 people and preferably max 10-12ish.
How much will Trinity College be? I would like to keep the event free, if
possible.
> I know that Cassidy's on Westmoreland (not to be confused with
> Cassidy's on Camden Street) gladly lends out it's rooms to different
> student groups and other organisations that involve heavy drinking.
> They have a bar that serves food, and a number of rooms that are
> relatively quiet, which sounds like what we're looking for. The only
> caviat is that they don't have a projector, which wouldn't be that big
> a deal for an unconference.
> --Rory
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM, David Guerin<da...@strotos.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I been on this list for awhile but I have never emailed before so hello
> to
> > all. :)
> > If you want to have the event in Trinity, I could ask the CS Dept if
> > something can be sorted out, I'm a Masters student here.
> > Might be able to work out something, if you could give me some details
> about
> > the approx. number of people and date that would be great.
> > The Science Gallery could be a pretty good place for this, and they have
> > pretty good coffee at a pretty good price well for Dublin anyway.
> >> >> how about talking to some college? they are on holidays so I would
> >> >> assume they have some free space?
> >> >> On Jul 1, 3:36 pm, s...@odonnell.nu wrote:
> >> >>> Venue wise I have no idea,
> >> >>> Some sort of name/theme for the event would be good.
> >> >>> Maybe see if Ruby Ireland are interested in teaming up for it?
> Things
> >> >>> went
> >> >>> well with them last time.
> >> >>> Sean
> >> >>> > Hi all,
> >> >>> > Mick and I attended the "Unconference Panel" (
> >> >>> >http://www.europython.eu/talks/talk_abstracts/index.html#talk112)
> at
> >> >>> > Europython, and we think we should have one in July instead of a
> >> >>> > planned
> >> >>> > talk (sorry, Rory).
> >> >>> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few
> >> >>> > rooms.
> >> >>> > It's
> >> >>> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you
> >> >>> > know
> >> >>> > what
> >> >>> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you
> >> >>> > can
> >> >>> > talk
> >> >>> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
> >> >>> > Another thing is the use of a whiteboard, or big sheets of white
> >> >>> > paper
> >> >>> > that
> >> >>> > has a grid, and some post-it notes.
> >> >>> > How this works, a time is allocated for each grid, someone might
> >> >>> > want to
> >> >>> > have a discussion/chat about something and write it on the post-it
> >> >>> > note
> >> >>> > and
> >> >>> > place it in the time slot. No slides are needed, no projector
> >> >>> > required
> >> >>> > either.
> >> >>> > This might sound crazy, but it seems to be quite popular and it
> does
> >> >>> > work.
> >> >>> > This would also give a chance for groups of people to discuss
> >> >>> > something
> >> >>> > they
> >> >>> > are really interested in, and it doesn't matter how big or small
> the
> >> >>> > groups
> >> >>> > are either.
> >> >>> > Also, this might give Mick and I an idea on how events like this
> >> >>> > turns
> >> >>> > out,
> >> >>> > as we are intending to submit Dublin as a venue for EuroPython in
> >> >>> > 2011/2012.
> >> >>> > This also really depends on how many people are committed to
> >> >>> > volunteer to
> >> >>> > help.
> Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms. It's
> like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know what
> I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can talk
> about it here instead, no slides necessary).
Hi, http://barcampbelfast.com/ was held at a local university. The
organisers may have some info on this which might help ye. You could
even come up here :)
Vicki,
For Trinity try nicola.mee...@tcd.ie She works in the accomodation office
and takes care of space.
You might also consider DCU Invent and NovaUCD - I reckon you'd have a good
rate of success getting space in there. let me know if Belfield and / or
Drumcondra is workable and I'll send you on some contact info.
Best
Barry
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:06 AM, AClearn <acle...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms.
> It's
> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know
> what
> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can
> talk
> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
> Hi, http://barcampbelfast.com/ was held at a local university. The
> organisers may have some info on this which might help ye. You could
> even come up here :)
As DIT Aungier St. (where some python talks were previously held) is closed
at 18:00 during the summer it's not an option. However, there may be a
possibility of using 3 or 4 rooms in DIT Kevin St., which remains open until
20:00.
Before I can find out whether we can use the space I need a date and time
for which to inquire about. Most likely I won't get an answer until mid July
as the people who usually make this kind of decision are on holidays until
then -- I won't know if we have to wait for their return or if others can
make the decision in the mean time.
Vicky, if you think the opening hours are OK, lets pick a few dates and set
the process in motion.
Tim ^,^
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Barry Alistair Paterson (IrishDev.com) <
ba...@irishdev.com> wrote:
> Vicki,
> For Trinity try nicola.mee...@tcd.ie She works in the accomodation office
> and takes care of space.
> You might also consider DCU Invent and NovaUCD - I reckon you'd have a good
> rate of success getting space in there. let me know if Belfield and / or
> Drumcondra is workable and I'll send you on some contact info.
> Best
> Barry
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:06 AM, AClearn <acle...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms.
>> It's
>> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know
>> what
>> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can
>> talk
>> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
>> Hi, http://barcampbelfast.com/ was held at a local university. The
>> organisers may have some info on this which might help ye. You could
>> even come up here :)
We can aim for August, as I'm only back and realised that our meet up is
this Wednesday!
How about a Saturday? I suggest an event that lasts a few hours e.g. 12pm
till 6pm? Just to see how the unconference plays out. We can have a whole
day event?
What say you, Python Ireland folks?
Cheers,
/// Vicky
P.S.: I've contacted Trinity College about spaces as well.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Tim Kersten <t...@io41.com> wrote:
> As DIT Aungier St. (where some python talks were previously held) is closed
> at 18:00 during the summer it's not an option. However, there may be a
> possibility of using 3 or 4 rooms in DIT Kevin St., which remains open until
> 20:00.
> Before I can find out whether we can use the space I need a date and time
> for which to inquire about. Most likely I won't get an answer until mid July
> as the people who usually make this kind of decision are on holidays until
> then -- I won't know if we have to wait for their return or if others can
> make the decision in the mean time.
> Vicky, if you think the opening hours are OK, lets pick a few dates and set
> the process in motion.
> Tim ^,^
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Barry Alistair Paterson (IrishDev.com) <
> ba...@irishdev.com> wrote:
>> Vicki,
>> For Trinity try nicola.mee...@tcd.ie She works in the accomodation office
>> and takes care of space.
>> You might also consider DCU Invent and NovaUCD - I reckon you'd have a
>> good rate of success getting space in there. let me know if Belfield and /
>> or Drumcondra is workable and I'll send you on some contact info.
>> Best
>> Barry
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:06 AM, AClearn <acle...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> > Thing is, we will need a venue that is quiet and even have a few rooms.
>>> It's
>>> > like openspaces (if you attended previous Python conferences, you know
>>> what
>>> > I mean), or in other words, unplanned discussions (Rory, maybe you can
>>> talk
>>> > about it here instead, no slides necessary).
>>> Hi, http://barcampbelfast.com/ was held at a local university. The
>>> organisers may have some info on this which might help ye. You could
>>> even come up here :)
> We can aim for August, as I'm only back and realised that our meet up is > this Wednesday!
> How about a Saturday? I suggest an event that lasts a few hours e.g. 12pm > till 6pm? Just to see how the unconference plays out. We can have a whole > day event?
> What say you, Python Ireland folks?
Since the meetup is so close, perhaps best to leave it until thent to discuss?
Although it probably be helpful to find out about possiblevenues before Wednesday, so we have enough info for a decision.
I could contact Trinity to see if they could facilitiate us? Unless some more recent Trinity person wants to take that on?
I think discussing it here is good because everyone can see it and its
available for later viewing, though of course chatting about it on
Wednesday is good too. A Saturday would probably be best, though I'm
not sure what my Saturday schedules look like in August yet, but
hopefully I'll be available. I'll try to be anyway. 12 till 6 sounds
like a good time too.
2009/7/6 Alan Kennedy <alan.kennedy.n...@gmail.com>:
> [Vicky]
>> We can aim for August, as I'm only back and realised that our meet up is
>> this Wednesday!
>> How about a Saturday? I suggest an event that lasts a few hours e.g. 12pm
>> till 6pm? Just to see how the unconference plays out. We can have a whole
>> day event?
>> What say you, Python Ireland folks?
> Since the meetup is so close, perhaps best to leave it until thent to discuss?
> Although it probably be helpful to find out about possiblevenues
> before Wednesday, so we have enough info for a decision.
> I could contact Trinity to see if they could facilitiate us? Unless
> some more recent Trinity person wants to take that on?
> Regards,
> Alan.
-- Daniel Kersten.
Leveraging dynamic paradigms since the synergies of 1985.
Hold off until September. August is the silly season. Many people will be on vacation. Plus, there will be more time to prepare and promote the event.
If the venue has four rooms available, dedicate one to a Python track, one to "other" talks (which could include a showing from Ruby Ireland) and a couple of rooms for "open space" discussions.
Seek sponsorship. Every barcamp I've seen has been free-to-attend, usually with oodles of free food funded by the sponsors. Look at the sites from previous Irish barcamps for likely sponsors.
Widening the event's focus to make it a barcamp will draw a bigger crowd; it may interest more people in Python; and it's more likely to attract sponsorship.
> Hold off until September. August is the silly season. Many people will
> be on vacation. Plus, there will be more time to prepare and promote
> the event.
> If the venue has four rooms available, dedicate one to a Python track,
> one to "other" talks (which could include a showing from Ruby Ireland)
> and a couple of rooms for "open space" discussions.
> Seek sponsorship. Every barcamp I've seen has been free-to-attend,
> usually with oodles of free food funded by the sponsors. Look at the
> sites from previous Irish barcamps for likely sponsors.
> Widening the event's focus to make it a barcamp will draw a bigger
> crowd; it may interest more people in Python; and it's more likely to
> attract sponsorship.
> Any other supporters of a "BarCamp Dublin II"?
> Regards,
> Kevin.
-- Daniel Kersten.
Leveraging dynamic paradigms since the synergies of 1985.
Well, there is no this is a Python only track, or Ruby only track. It's
whatever people feel like discussing. (Kevin, were you at the unconference
panel, they had interesting suggestions?)
This event is barcamp-openspace-lightening talk rolled into one, except the
only rules are no slides because the last thing you want is a lecture in a
discussion. It's people sitting around in a circle talking, *not* a
presentation.
AND
It's okay to walk away from a discussion, it's not considered rude.
I have to see when Pycon UK are holding their "unconference" in September, I
do not want to overlap with them, in case people want to head over.
Aside from that, thanks for all suggestions so far. Anyone know folks who
organised Barcamp, or people from Digital Hub?
> > A few suggestions... (Take them or leave them!)
> > Call it a barcamp. "Unconference" is unwieldy.
> > Hold off until September. August is the silly season. Many people will
> > be on vacation. Plus, there will be more time to prepare and promote
> > the event.
> > If the venue has four rooms available, dedicate one to a Python track,
> > one to "other" talks (which could include a showing from Ruby Ireland)
> > and a couple of rooms for "open space" discussions.
> > Seek sponsorship. Every barcamp I've seen has been free-to-attend,
> > usually with oodles of free food funded by the sponsors. Look at the
> > sites from previous Irish barcamps for likely sponsors.
> > Widening the event's focus to make it a barcamp will draw a bigger
> > crowd; it may interest more people in Python; and it's more likely to
> > attract sponsorship.
> > Any other supporters of a "BarCamp Dublin II"?
> > Regards,
> > Kevin.
> --
> Daniel Kersten.
> Leveraging dynamic paradigms since the synergies of 1985.
> hiya I'm running another ossbarcamp in september and would be great to have a python presence at it.
> Registration is open now for people to attend as we like to have an idea of numbers, I'll be placing a blank schedule up also soon enough for people to sign up to give a talk. The site is www.ossbarcamp.com
> Also I'm running another site fossevents.org where I am collecting all open source talks, events, meet ups, conferences, etc under one roof, so if you have any python meet ups do let me know via the site so I can add them and folks will be able to come along.
Thanks again for all the suggestions. I think I'll talk about it on Wed as
it's hard to say what I mean about this event, it'll be just a pub meet up
(any prefs?).
I'll mail you, Laura, about any upcoming meet up. They are on 2nd Wed of
each month.
ossbarcamp would be cool, I'll defo bug Python Ireland folks to give talks
there.
> > hiya I'm running another ossbarcamp in september and would be great to
> have a python presence at it.
> > Registration is open now for people to attend as we like to have an idea
> of numbers, I'll be placing a blank schedule up also soon enough for people
> to sign up to give a talk. The site is www.ossbarcamp.com
> > Also I'm running another site fossevents.org where I am collecting all
> open source talks, events, meet ups, conferences, etc under one roof, so if
> you have any python meet ups do let me know via the site so I can add them
> and folks will be able to come along.
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