1.4 release sooner than normal?
	Pypa: given the momentum of wheel, I'm pondering releasing 1.4 in less than 2 months. i.e. pick out a few more things that are ready and/or critical, and consider it a release. just a thought? Marcus By Marcus Smith  - Mar 17 - 12 new of 12 messages

Wheel branch merged!!

Pypa: fyi, Jannis, Daniel, Hugo, and I got together this morning, and decided to merge the current wheel branch. This decision was largely based on it being functional *now*, that it's already had testing from real users, and generally wanting to keep the momentum moving forward. As for refactoring to distlib later, if/when that might happen is TBD.... more » By Marcus Smith  - Mar 16 - 4 new of 4 messages

	python2.5 and ssl in virtualenvs: chicken and egg
	Hi All, Can anyone help with this: [link] The base python has ssl installed: Python 2.5.5 (r255:77872, Nov 28 2010, 19:00:19) [GCC 4.4.5] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.... more » By Chris Withers  - Mar 15 - 2 new of 2 messages

	Feedback about backward incompatible changes reverted in pip-1.3.1
	Hi, I'm the guy who authored the commits who were reverted in pip-1.3.1. First, my apologies for the extra work and inconvenience involved by this issue, rest assured that the intent never was to introduce backward incompatible changes. At the time it only appeared as a really small contribution that allowed to... more » By Maxime R.  - Mar 13 - 5 new of 5 messages

	Summary of 1.3.1 SSL Issues
	Here's a summary of the 1.3.1 ssl issues 1) the proxy support is broke. this deserves a patch release. [link] I posted a pull today. need reviews and more confirmation that it works [link] it adds a critical test that was missing before to confirm the proxy... more » By Marcus Smith  - Mar 12 - 1 new of 1 message

	First implementation of wheel support in virtualenv
	I've just submitted pull request 406 ([link]) for virtualenv, which implements installation of pip and distribute from wheels. It's not ready for merging yet - I intend to continue working on it and refining the details - but if anyone has time to review the code... more » By Paul Moore  - Mar 12 - 7 new of 7 messages

Running virtualenv without a virtualenv_support directory - desupport this option?

The virtualenv documentation (in the "Installation" section) refers to two options for running virtualenv - by installing it into your Python environment using pip or setup.py install, or by running direct from source. In both of these cases, a "virtualenv_support" directory is present. There is a warning in the current documentation that using... more » By Paul Moore  - Mar 10 - 2 new of 2 messages

	pip-1.4 dropping python 2.5? need votes...
	There's enough consensus IMO to vendorize distlib in donald's pull, but that implies dropping py25 in pip-1.4 (distlib support is >=py26) are we ok with that? I vote yes. Marcus By Marcus Smith  - Mar 9 - 7 new of 7 messages

	pip.vendor.distlib?
	Pypa: Donald posted a pull for only finding stable versions (with a new --pre option for finding pre-releases) Originally, it was only including a minimal slice of distlib, but has evolved into "vendorizing" distlib whole cloth. see the discussion here: [link]... more » By Marcus Smith  - Mar 9 - 5 new of 5 messages

	pip-1.3.1 and virtualenv-1.9.1 released to PyPI
	pip-1.3.1 and virtualenv-1.9.1 have been officially released to PyPI. changelogs: pip: [link] virtualenv: [link] Marcus By Marcus Smith  - Mar 8 - 1 new of 1 message