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Behavior Driven Development in Pyramid

2012-02-12T22:27:36Z

Hi guys!

I'm a PHP developer, but I've decided to switch to Python and Pyramid
for a big upcoming project. Before I dive right into Pyramid, however,
I'm doing a bit of research and getting all my ducks in a row, so to
speak. So, I have a few questions:

I've often wanted to start using Test Driven Development in my

ptah_chat/websocket pyramid app available in examples repository

2012-02-12T22:05:58Z

In the past 24 hours a new example application has landed in the
ptahproject `examples` repository. It demonstrates a real-time chat
mechanism using the sockjs library with logged in Ptah users (oauth2
supported as well). Like the other packages in the examples repository
ptah_chat is meant to thoroughly demonstrate/implement the idea.

Re: need opinions for dependencies for some Pyramid related code

2012-02-11T21:12:16Z

The way the glossary works, in case anyone is interested, is I parse
the terms and definitions out of the HTML file and put them in a data
structure (currently a pickle file, but I think the next version will
have a database table). I sort them into first-letter groups
(capitalized), and make a page for each letter.

Re: need opinions for dependencies for some Pyramid related code

2012-02-11T21:11:15Z

Not sure what you're trying to optimize for. What does "lightweight"
mean in this (or really any) context? If lightweight means "fast",
there's no way tempita is appreciably faster than any of mako,
chameleon, or jinja2, and it's likely much slower.

Yes. It's pretty close to compatible. The docs explain what needs to

Re: need opinions for dependencies for some Pyramid related code

2012-02-11T21:03:30Z

BeautifulSoup to parse it.
BeautifulSoup is freaking magical for that. It's awesome. We use it for
making sure clients can't break things sticking in totally mangled html.
iain

Re: need opinions for dependencies for some Pyramid related code

2012-02-11T21:00:35Z

BeautifulSoup can handle bad HTML better. If your HTML files are
coming from a third party and you can't control their quality, it may
be better to use BeautifulSoup than get an exception. I have an
application with an online glossary, and the glossary is maintained by
another person using some visual tool. So when I get an update, I use

Re: need your help to overhaul docs

2012-02-11T20:57:29Z

+1 on that, kickstarter and it's ilk make it really easy to donate.
iain

Re: need your help to overhaul docs

2012-02-11T20:56:51Z

Thanks!
Iain

Re: need opinions for dependencies for some Pyramid related code

2012-02-11T20:56:19Z

Awesome! Is there a wiki or trac or what not for the new developments? Glad
it's been picked up!
Iain

Re: need opinions for dependencies for some Pyramid related code

2012-02-11T20:55:23Z

Thanks Chris, that's exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for. I
chose Tempita because in this case I'm using something really simple and
lightweight for super small templating, I guess maybe I should switch to
using the built in tmpl facilities, a 'real' templating language is likely
to be overkill for this particular use. hmmm,

Re: writing unit tests that cover pylons and pyramid

2012-02-11T19:54:43Z

actually, screw that. unit testing for a series of helper wrappers is
too difficult in pylons. pyramid and 'core' usage gets covered.
pylons doesn't. now i'm going to brunch!

Re: writing unit tests that cover pylons and pyramid

2012-02-11T18:48:51Z

It's the same system & virtualenv. it's just that 'using' the package
seems to work fine, but testing it fails.

c is exported in pylons , but that double assignment line seems to not
define it via an import. i guess there's some pylons bootstrap code
that needs to be run.

in any event, based on your suggestion i've got the tests working like

Re: need opinions for dependencies for some Pyramid related code

2012-02-11T16:40:44Z

That's me(the new maintainer -- also David Stanek). Py3 compatibility is on
the radar, but we haven't had time to get fully through the bug or the docs
backlog. We will be at Pycon and we are planning on sprinting:
[link]
I'll likely be contributing to pyramid_simpleform as well since that is

Re: No debug toolbar in the development mode

2012-02-11T16:17:28Z

I figured out my problem, network in this VMware was using NAT, so it sees
the host as the gateway IP: 192.168.88.1
The correct IP for me:
debugtoolbar.hosts = 192.168.88.1

Re: No debug toolbar in the development mode

2012-02-11T15:42:42Z

There's already an [app:foo] section in the development.ini. Just put
this inside it:
debugtoolbar.hosts = 192.168.0.104
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- C