> I would suggest trying to bootstrap the buildout with the system python2.7.
> like so

> $ /usr/bin/python2.7 bootstrap.py --distribute && ./bin/buildout

> If that doesn't work, file an issue @
> https://github.com/Batterii/pyramid_appengine/issues and I'll see if I can
> help you out.

> On Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:43:41 PM UTC-4, Alejandro Jatib wrote:

>> Hi guys,
>> I'm making a new project with pyramid_appengine (I have a few other and
>> these are working fine) and when i try to "buildout" a skeleton empty
>> project i have this error:

>>> .....
>>> rod.recipe.appengine: Google App Engine distribution already downloaded.
>>> While:
>>>   Installing mascotanube.
>>> An internal error occurred due to a bug in either zc.buildout or in a
>>> recipe being used:
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>   File
>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>> line 1852, in main
>>>     getattr(buildout, command)(args)
>>>   File
>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>> line 618, in install
>>>     installed_files = self[part]._call(recipe.install)
>>>   File
>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>> line 1327, in _call
>>>     return f()
>>>   File
>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>> line 327, in install
>>>     self.copy_packages(ws, temp_dir)
>>>   File
>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>> line 234, in copy_packages
>>>     self.write_pkg_resources(ws, lib)
>>>   File
>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>> line 217, in write_pkg_resources
>>>     assert len(setuptools_eggs) == 1, "setuptools not found"
>>> AssertionError: setuptools not found

>> Any suggestion?
>> I use virtualenv and I have setuptools installed in the same virtualenv.

>> Thanks!

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> The pyramid docs here specifically document using virtualenv and
> buildout together. Docs should probably be fixed...

> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid_cookbook/en/latest/dep...

> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Thomas G. Willis <tom.wil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> As far as I know, buildout and virtualenv dont play well together. buildout
>> and virtualenv do share some of the same goals such as isolating your
>> development environment libraries from your system. there's no reason I can
>> think of to use both.

>> I would suggest trying to bootstrap the buildout with the system python2.7.
>> like so

>> $ /usr/bin/python2.7 bootstrap.py --distribute && ./bin/buildout

>> If that doesn't work, file an issue @
>> https://github.com/Batterii/pyramid_appengine/issues and I'll see if I can
>> help you out.

>> On Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:43:41 PM UTC-4, Alejandro Jatib wrote:

>>> Hi guys,
>>> I'm making a new project with pyramid_appengine (I have a few other and
>>> these are working fine) and when i try to "buildout" a skeleton empty
>>> project i have this error:

>>>> .....
>>>> rod.recipe.appengine: Google App Engine distribution already downloaded.
>>>> While:
>>>>   Installing mascotanube.
>>>> An internal error occurred due to a bug in either zc.buildout or in a
>>>> recipe being used:
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>   File
>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>>> line 1852, in main
>>>>     getattr(buildout, command)(args)
>>>>   File
>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>>> line 618, in install
>>>>     installed_files = self[part]._call(recipe.install)
>>>>   File
>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>>> line 1327, in _call
>>>>     return f()
>>>>   File
>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>>> line 327, in install
>>>>     self.copy_packages(ws, temp_dir)
>>>>   File
>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>>> line 234, in copy_packages
>>>>     self.write_pkg_resources(ws, lib)
>>>>   File
>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>>> line 217, in write_pkg_resources
>>>>     assert len(setuptools_eggs) == 1, "setuptools not found"
>>>> AssertionError: setuptools not found

>>> Any suggestion?
>>> I use virtualenv and I have setuptools installed in the same virtualenv.

>>> Thanks!

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> I suppose the explanation for what you are doing(or should be) should
> go here then to make it more obvious.

> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid_cookbook/en/latest/dep...

> ~/ $ cd newproject
> ~/newproject $ /usr/bin/python2.7 bootstrap.py --distribute

> pyramid_appengine merely generates a buildout directory based on
> templates, once the project is generated, it's does not have
> pyramid_appengine as a dependency.

> installing pyramid/associated libs like pyramid_appengine in a
> virtualenv is generally good practice so that you avoid polluting your
> system install of python

> maybe it's a miss on the expected experience level of the reader. If I
> documented why you should use buildout and why you should use
> virtualenv and why appengine apps are structured the way they are it
> would be very long documentation that would be quickly out of date
> because it would have to be copied from other sources.

> So I'm open to suggestions on how to make this bit clearer, but I'm
> not too keen on documenting virtualenv, appengine apps and buildout.
> especially since all 3 are in a state of flux at the moment.

> Thomas G. Willis

> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Jacob Hite <jrh...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> wrote:
> > I've encountered the same problem.

> > The pyramid docs here specifically document using virtualenv and
> > buildout together. Docs should probably be fixed...

> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid_cookbook/en/latest/dep...

> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Thomas G. Willis <tom.w...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> wrote:
> >> As far as I know, buildout and virtualenv dont play well together.
> buildout
> >> and virtualenv do share some of the same goals such as isolating your
> >> development environment libraries from your system. there's no reason I
> can
> >> think of to use both.

> >> I would suggest trying to bootstrap the buildout with the system
> python2.7.
> >> like so

> >> $ /usr/bin/python2.7 bootstrap.py --distribute && ./bin/buildout

> >> If that doesn't work, file an issue @
> >> https://github.com/Batterii/pyramid_appengine/issues and I'll see if I
> can
> >> help you out.

> >> On Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:43:41 PM UTC-4, Alejandro Jatib
> wrote:

> >>> Hi guys,
> >>> I'm making a new project with pyramid_appengine (I have a few other
> and
> >>> these are working fine) and when i try to "buildout" a skeleton empty
> >>> project i have this error:

> >>>> .....
> >>>> rod.recipe.appengine: Google App Engine distribution already
> downloaded.
> >>>> While:
> >>>>   Installing mascotanube.
> >>>> An internal error occurred due to a bug in either zc.buildout or in a
> >>>> recipe being used:
> >>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>>   File

> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",

> >>>> line 1852, in main
> >>>>     getattr(buildout, command)(args)
> >>>>   File

> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",

> >>>> line 618, in install
> >>>>     installed_files = self[part]._call(recipe.install)
> >>>>   File

> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",

> >>>> line 1327, in _call
> >>>>     return f()
> >>>>   File

> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",

> >>>> line 327, in install
> >>>>     self.copy_packages(ws, temp_dir)
> >>>>   File

> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",

> >>>> line 234, in copy_packages
> >>>>     self.write_pkg_resources(ws, lib)
> >>>>   File

> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",

> >>>> line 217, in write_pkg_resources
> >>>>     assert len(setuptools_eggs) == 1, "setuptools not found"
> >>>> AssertionError: setuptools not found

> >>> Any suggestion?
> >>> I use virtualenv and I have setuptools installed in the same
> virtualenv.

> >>> Thanks!

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> I not understand deeply how buildout works but i can do "the salad" with
> buildout/appengine/pyramid and works fine!

> Alejandro

> El miércoles, 26 de septiembre de 2012 13:23:16 UTC-3, Thomas G. Willis
> escribió:

>> I suppose the explanation for what you are doing(or should be) should
>> go here then to make it more obvious.

>> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid_cookbook/en/latest/dep...

>> ~/ $ cd newproject
>> ~/newproject $ /usr/bin/python2.7 bootstrap.py --distribute

>> pyramid_appengine merely generates a buildout directory based on
>> templates, once the project is generated, it's does not have
>> pyramid_appengine as a dependency.

>> installing pyramid/associated libs like pyramid_appengine in a
>> virtualenv is generally good practice so that you avoid polluting your
>> system install of python

>> maybe it's a miss on the expected experience level of the reader. If I
>> documented why you should use buildout and why you should use
>> virtualenv and why appengine apps are structured the way they are it
>> would be very long documentation that would be quickly out of date
>> because it would have to be copied from other sources.

>> So I'm open to suggestions on how to make this bit clearer, but I'm
>> not too keen on documenting virtualenv, appengine apps and buildout.
>> especially since all 3 are in a state of flux at the moment.

>> Thomas G. Willis

>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Jacob Hite <jrh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've encountered the same problem.

>> > The pyramid docs here specifically document using virtualenv and
>> > buildout together. Docs should probably be fixed...

>> > http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid_cookbook/en/latest/dep...

>> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Thomas G. Willis <tom.w...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> As far as I know, buildout and virtualenv dont play well together.
>> >> buildout
>> >> and virtualenv do share some of the same goals such as isolating your
>> >> development environment libraries from your system. there's no reason I
>> >> can
>> >> think of to use both.

>> >> I would suggest trying to bootstrap the buildout with the system
>> >> python2.7.
>> >> like so

>> >> $ /usr/bin/python2.7 bootstrap.py --distribute && ./bin/buildout

>> >> If that doesn't work, file an issue @
>> >> https://github.com/Batterii/pyramid_appengine/issues and I'll see if I
>> >> can
>> >> help you out.

>> >> On Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:43:41 PM UTC-4, Alejandro Jatib
>> >> wrote:

>> >>> Hi guys,
>> >>> I'm making a new project with pyramid_appengine (I have a few other
>> >>> and
>> >>> these are working fine) and when i try to "buildout" a skeleton empty
>> >>> project i have this error:

>> >>>> .....
>> >>>> rod.recipe.appengine: Google App Engine distribution already
>> >>>> downloaded.
>> >>>> While:
>> >>>>   Installing mascotanube.
>> >>>> An internal error occurred due to a bug in either zc.buildout or in a
>> >>>> recipe being used:
>> >>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> >>>>   File

>> >>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>> >>>> line 1852, in main
>> >>>>     getattr(buildout, command)(args)
>> >>>>   File

>> >>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>> >>>> line 618, in install
>> >>>>     installed_files = self[part]._call(recipe.install)
>> >>>>   File

>> >>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>> >>>> line 1327, in _call
>> >>>>     return f()
>> >>>>   File

>> >>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>> >>>> line 327, in install
>> >>>>     self.copy_packages(ws, temp_dir)
>> >>>>   File

>> >>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>> >>>> line 234, in copy_packages
>> >>>>     self.write_pkg_resources(ws, lib)
>> >>>>   File

>> >>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>> >>>> line 217, in write_pkg_resources
>> >>>>     assert len(setuptools_eggs) == 1, "setuptools not found"
>> >>>> AssertionError: setuptools not found

>> >>> Any suggestion?
>> >>> I use virtualenv and I have setuptools installed in the same
>> >>> virtualenv.

>> >>> Thanks!

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> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Alejandro Jatib <aja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Thomas.
>> I solve this issue deleting all files and creating a brand new virtualenv
>> with a new installation of pyramid_appengine (a few week ago with pyramid
>> 1.4 this not work, but with 1.3.4 yes)

>> I not understand deeply how buildout works but i can do "the salad" with
>> buildout/appengine/pyramid and works fine!

>> Alejandro

>> El miércoles, 26 de septiembre de 2012 13:23:16 UTC-3, Thomas G. Willis
>> escribió:

>>> I suppose the explanation for what you are doing(or should be) should
>>> go here then to make it more obvious.

>>> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid_cookbook/en/latest/dep...

>>> ~/ $ cd newproject
>>> ~/newproject $ /usr/bin/python2.7 bootstrap.py --distribute

>>> pyramid_appengine merely generates a buildout directory based on
>>> templates, once the project is generated, it's does not have
>>> pyramid_appengine as a dependency.

>>> installing pyramid/associated libs like pyramid_appengine in a
>>> virtualenv is generally good practice so that you avoid polluting your
>>> system install of python

>>> maybe it's a miss on the expected experience level of the reader. If I
>>> documented why you should use buildout and why you should use
>>> virtualenv and why appengine apps are structured the way they are it
>>> would be very long documentation that would be quickly out of date
>>> because it would have to be copied from other sources.

>>> So I'm open to suggestions on how to make this bit clearer, but I'm
>>> not too keen on documenting virtualenv, appengine apps and buildout.
>>> especially since all 3 are in a state of flux at the moment.

>>> Thomas G. Willis

>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Jacob Hite <jrh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I've encountered the same problem.

>>>> The pyramid docs here specifically document using virtualenv and
>>>> buildout together. Docs should probably be fixed...

>>>> http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid_cookbook/en/latest/dep...

>>>> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Thomas G. Willis <tom.w...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> As far as I know, buildout and virtualenv dont play well together.
>>>>> buildout
>>>>> and virtualenv do share some of the same goals such as isolating your
>>>>> development environment libraries from your system. there's no reason I
>>>>> can
>>>>> think of to use both.

>>>>> I would suggest trying to bootstrap the buildout with the system
>>>>> python2.7.
>>>>> like so

>>>>> $ /usr/bin/python2.7 bootstrap.py --distribute && ./bin/buildout

>>>>> If that doesn't work, file an issue @
>>>>> https://github.com/Batterii/pyramid_appengine/issues and I'll see if I
>>>>> can
>>>>> help you out.

>>>>> On Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:43:41 PM UTC-4, Alejandro Jatib
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> I'm making a new project with pyramid_appengine (I have a few other
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> these are working fine) and when i try to "buildout" a skeleton empty
>>>>>> project i have this error:

>>>>>>> .....
>>>>>>> rod.recipe.appengine: Google App Engine distribution already
>>>>>>> downloaded.
>>>>>>> While:
>>>>>>>    Installing mascotanube.
>>>>>>> An internal error occurred due to a bug in either zc.buildout or in a
>>>>>>> recipe being used:
>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>    File

>>>>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>>>>>> line 1852, in main
>>>>>>>      getattr(buildout, command)(args)
>>>>>>>    File

>>>>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>>>>>> line 618, in install
>>>>>>>      installed_files = self[part]._call(recipe.install)
>>>>>>>    File

>>>>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/zc.buildout-1.6.3-py2.7.egg/zc/buildout/buildout.py",
>>>>>>> line 1327, in _call
>>>>>>>      return f()
>>>>>>>    File

>>>>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>>>>>> line 327, in install
>>>>>>>      self.copy_packages(ws, temp_dir)
>>>>>>>    File

>>>>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>>>>>> line 234, in copy_packages
>>>>>>>      self.write_pkg_resources(ws, lib)
>>>>>>>    File

>>>>>>> "/Users/alejandro/Development/Python/enviroments/mascotanube/mascotanube/eg gs/rod.recipe.appengine-2.0.0-py2.7.egg/rod/recipe/appengine/__init__.py",
>>>>>>> line 217, in write_pkg_resources
>>>>>>>      assert len(setuptools_eggs) == 1, "setuptools not found"
>>>>>>> AssertionError: setuptools not found

>>>>>> Any suggestion?
>>>>>> I use virtualenv and I have setuptools installed in the same
>>>>>> virtualenv.

>>>>>> Thanks!