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Brian Gupta  
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 More options May 2 2012, 2:42 pm
From: Brian Gupta <brian.gu...@brandorr.com>
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 14:42:57 -0400
Local: Wed, May 2 2012 2:42 pm
Subject: Thoughts on preseed vs config files?
So having an internal debate on whether to use puppet managed debian
preseed files to configure packages prior to installation or
installing with no-config and using puppet to manage the config files
after the fact.

The end of the discussion is that ideally one would use both, but if
one had to chose just one, it would be puppet managing the configs,
with the exception of certain packages that gain more benefit than
average by being configured through debconf. e.g. - Setting root mysql
password, so that debian maint. cron jobs can run without issue.

Thoughts?

-Brian


 
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Thomas Bendler  
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 More options May 3 2012, 9:31 am
From: Thomas Bendler <thomas.bend...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:31:03 +0200
Local: Thurs, May 3 2012 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Thoughts on preseed vs config files?

2012/5/2 Brian Gupta <brian.gu...@brandorr.com>

> So having an internal debate on whether to use puppet managed debian
> preseed files to configure packages prior to installation or
> installing with no-config and using puppet to manage the config files
> after the fact.

> The end of the discussion is that ideally one would use both, but if
> one had to chose just one, it would be puppet managing the configs,
> with the exception of certain packages that gain more benefit than
> average by being configured through debconf. e.g. - Setting root mysql
> password, so that debian maint. cron jobs can run without issue.

> Thoughts?

From my point of view it is a good way to be as close as possible on the
upstream way of doing. It is surely possible to write puppet classes for
everything to get administrative actions done but it is not very release
save. I made the observation that the amount of work which is necessary to
rewrite classes to match a new distribution release increases drastically
when I do the whole work with my own written classes. When I use standard
mechanisms that the distribution provide (regardless if debconf or
something else) instead of own configuration mechanism I save a lot of
time. I still can call the distribution mechanism with exec so I still can
reflect the configuration change within puppet.

Regards, Thomas
--
Linux ... enjoy the ride!


 
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Dan Carley  
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 More options May 4 2012, 3:02 am
From: Dan Carley <dan.car...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 08:02:58 +0100
Local: Fri, May 4 2012 3:02 am
Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Thoughts on preseed vs config files?

On 2 May 2012 19:42, Brian Gupta <brian.gu...@brandorr.com> wrote:

> So having an internal debate on whether to use puppet managed debian
> preseed files to configure packages prior to installation or
> installing with no-config and using puppet to manage the config files
> after the fact.

> The end of the discussion is that ideally one would use both, but if
> one had to chose just one, it would be puppet managing the configs,
> with the exception of certain packages that gain more benefit than
> average by being configured through debconf. e.g. - Setting root mysql
> password, so that debian maint. cron jobs can run without issue.

> Thoughts?

If you had to choose one then I would shoot for the latter. Consider that
you want to maintain the state of the machine, not just it's initial
installation. If one of those configs changes, because you need to roll out
a new MySQL setting or someone gets naughty with vi(1), then you'll want to
enforce that without going through the package installation again.

 
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