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John Stoner <johnston...@gmail.com> writes:

>Is anyone trying to put a machine shop on every desktop? Or make them easy
>to replicate?
 
You could buy a Harbor Freight lathe & mill for less than the price of a
Makerbot, and much less than the Stratasys printer. And it's not *that*
hard to make a gun with that kind of tooling. It does take some
intelligence, and some research. There are gunsmiths in Afghanistan who 
hand-build AK47s with less sophisticated tools.

The South American drug gangs are building their own *submarines*. 
They'd make their own guns if they had to, but there are easier ways to
obtain firearms.